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mark smith 12-27-2003 07:07 PM

Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a
time.
The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....

The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.

THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
clutch....

Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
"Frozen in Fairbanks"



CaptainKrunch 12-27-2003 09:34 PM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
Yes it is perfectly fine to use and I use it myself and have used it for the
past 4 years and 85k miles.

Just don't use silicone break fluid. Synthetics are fine and I believe
not as hydroscopic. I believe that is the correct term which means to
attract water. Regular break fluid attracts moisture and as such lowers the
boiling point of the break fluid which is the main reason it should be
flushed regularly. I don't believe synthetics are as hydroscopic but I may
be wrong.

I don't imagine you ever have to worry about boiling points of break fluid
though.

I still wouldn't get it on my paint though.

CaptainKrunch

"mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message
news:1072570068.834218@prawn...
> I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
> Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
> inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at

a
> time.
> The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
> brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....
>
> The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.
>
> THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
> clutch....
>
> Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
> "Frozen in Fairbanks"
>
>




CaptainKrunch 12-27-2003 09:34 PM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
Yes it is perfectly fine to use and I use it myself and have used it for the
past 4 years and 85k miles.

Just don't use silicone break fluid. Synthetics are fine and I believe
not as hydroscopic. I believe that is the correct term which means to
attract water. Regular break fluid attracts moisture and as such lowers the
boiling point of the break fluid which is the main reason it should be
flushed regularly. I don't believe synthetics are as hydroscopic but I may
be wrong.

I don't imagine you ever have to worry about boiling points of break fluid
though.

I still wouldn't get it on my paint though.

CaptainKrunch

"mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message
news:1072570068.834218@prawn...
> I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
> Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
> inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at

a
> time.
> The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
> brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....
>
> The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.
>
> THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
> clutch....
>
> Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
> "Frozen in Fairbanks"
>
>




CaptainKrunch 12-27-2003 09:34 PM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
Yes it is perfectly fine to use and I use it myself and have used it for the
past 4 years and 85k miles.

Just don't use silicone break fluid. Synthetics are fine and I believe
not as hydroscopic. I believe that is the correct term which means to
attract water. Regular break fluid attracts moisture and as such lowers the
boiling point of the break fluid which is the main reason it should be
flushed regularly. I don't believe synthetics are as hydroscopic but I may
be wrong.

I don't imagine you ever have to worry about boiling points of break fluid
though.

I still wouldn't get it on my paint though.

CaptainKrunch

"mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message
news:1072570068.834218@prawn...
> I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
> Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
> inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at

a
> time.
> The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
> brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....
>
> The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.
>
> THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
> clutch....
>
> Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
> "Frozen in Fairbanks"
>
>




CaptainKrunch 12-27-2003 09:34 PM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
Yes it is perfectly fine to use and I use it myself and have used it for the
past 4 years and 85k miles.

Just don't use silicone break fluid. Synthetics are fine and I believe
not as hydroscopic. I believe that is the correct term which means to
attract water. Regular break fluid attracts moisture and as such lowers the
boiling point of the break fluid which is the main reason it should be
flushed regularly. I don't believe synthetics are as hydroscopic but I may
be wrong.

I don't imagine you ever have to worry about boiling points of break fluid
though.

I still wouldn't get it on my paint though.

CaptainKrunch

"mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message
news:1072570068.834218@prawn...
> I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
> Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
> inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at

a
> time.
> The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
> brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....
>
> The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.
>
> THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
> clutch....
>
> Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
> "Frozen in Fairbanks"
>
>




Mista Bone 12-27-2003 11:28 PM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
I use the Valvoline Syntech brake fluid in all my cars.
BTW, you might wanna rethink about waiting till spring when it is warmer!
I change the brake fluid once a year, but have no ABS to worry about.

"mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message
news:1072570068.834218@prawn...
> I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
> Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
> inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at

a
> time.
> The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
> brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....
>
> The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.
>
> THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
> clutch....
>
> Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
> "Frozen in Fairbanks"
>
>




Mista Bone 12-27-2003 11:28 PM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
I use the Valvoline Syntech brake fluid in all my cars.
BTW, you might wanna rethink about waiting till spring when it is warmer!
I change the brake fluid once a year, but have no ABS to worry about.

"mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message
news:1072570068.834218@prawn...
> I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
> Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
> inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at

a
> time.
> The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
> brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....
>
> The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.
>
> THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
> clutch....
>
> Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
> "Frozen in Fairbanks"
>
>




Mista Bone 12-27-2003 11:28 PM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
I use the Valvoline Syntech brake fluid in all my cars.
BTW, you might wanna rethink about waiting till spring when it is warmer!
I change the brake fluid once a year, but have no ABS to worry about.

"mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message
news:1072570068.834218@prawn...
> I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
> Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
> inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at

a
> time.
> The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
> brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....
>
> The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.
>
> THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
> clutch....
>
> Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
> "Frozen in Fairbanks"
>
>




Mista Bone 12-27-2003 11:28 PM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
I use the Valvoline Syntech brake fluid in all my cars.
BTW, you might wanna rethink about waiting till spring when it is warmer!
I change the brake fluid once a year, but have no ABS to worry about.

"mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message
news:1072570068.834218@prawn...
> I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
> Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
> inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at

a
> time.
> The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
> brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....
>
> The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.
>
> THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
> clutch....
>
> Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
> "Frozen in Fairbanks"
>
>




George Macdonald 12-28-2003 03:56 AM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:07:49 GMT, "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net>
wrote:

>I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
>Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
>inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a
>time.
>The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
>brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....


The term "synthetic" in relation to brake fluid is redundant - all brake
fluids are synthetic. Apart from the silicone types, which are not
considered suitable for road use, they're basically mixtures of glycols
and/or higher alcohols.

>The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.


If you want your ABS to last, i.e. avoid big $$ repairs, I'd recommend
changing the fluid in the reservoir once a year.

>THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
>clutch....


Honda doesn't have a clutch fluid change on their scheduled maintenance but
again, if you want it to last, change the fluid regularly - at least every
2years.

>Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
>"Frozen in Fairbanks"


No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

George Macdonald 12-28-2003 03:56 AM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:07:49 GMT, "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net>
wrote:

>I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
>Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
>inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a
>time.
>The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
>brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....


The term "synthetic" in relation to brake fluid is redundant - all brake
fluids are synthetic. Apart from the silicone types, which are not
considered suitable for road use, they're basically mixtures of glycols
and/or higher alcohols.

>The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.


If you want your ABS to last, i.e. avoid big $$ repairs, I'd recommend
changing the fluid in the reservoir once a year.

>THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
>clutch....


Honda doesn't have a clutch fluid change on their scheduled maintenance but
again, if you want it to last, change the fluid regularly - at least every
2years.

>Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
>"Frozen in Fairbanks"


No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

George Macdonald 12-28-2003 03:56 AM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:07:49 GMT, "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net>
wrote:

>I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
>Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
>inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a
>time.
>The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
>brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....


The term "synthetic" in relation to brake fluid is redundant - all brake
fluids are synthetic. Apart from the silicone types, which are not
considered suitable for road use, they're basically mixtures of glycols
and/or higher alcohols.

>The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.


If you want your ABS to last, i.e. avoid big $$ repairs, I'd recommend
changing the fluid in the reservoir once a year.

>THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
>clutch....


Honda doesn't have a clutch fluid change on their scheduled maintenance but
again, if you want it to last, change the fluid regularly - at least every
2years.

>Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
>"Frozen in Fairbanks"


No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

George Macdonald 12-28-2003 03:56 AM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:07:49 GMT, "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net>
wrote:

>I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
>Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
>inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a
>time.
>The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
>brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....


The term "synthetic" in relation to brake fluid is redundant - all brake
fluids are synthetic. Apart from the silicone types, which are not
considered suitable for road use, they're basically mixtures of glycols
and/or higher alcohols.

>The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.


If you want your ABS to last, i.e. avoid big $$ repairs, I'd recommend
changing the fluid in the reservoir once a year.

>THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
>clutch....


Honda doesn't have a clutch fluid change on their scheduled maintenance but
again, if you want it to last, change the fluid regularly - at least every
2years.

>Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
>"Frozen in Fairbanks"


No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Gus 12-28-2003 04:56 AM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
George Macdonald wrote:

(snip)

> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.


Why is that?


Gus 12-28-2003 04:56 AM

Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
 
George Macdonald wrote:

(snip)

> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.


Why is that?



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