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Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a time. The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic clutch.... Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... "Frozen in Fairbanks" |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
Yes it is perfectly fine to use and I use it myself and have used it for the
past 4 years and 85k miles. Just don't use silicone break fluid. Synthetics are fine and I believe not as hydroscopic. I believe that is the correct term which means to attract water. Regular break fluid attracts moisture and as such lowers the boiling point of the break fluid which is the main reason it should be flushed regularly. I don't believe synthetics are as hydroscopic but I may be wrong. I don't imagine you ever have to worry about boiling points of break fluid though. I still wouldn't get it on my paint though. CaptainKrunch "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message news:1072570068.834218@prawn... > I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put > Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live > inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a > time. > The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS > brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... > > The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. > > THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic > clutch.... > > Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... > "Frozen in Fairbanks" > > |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
Yes it is perfectly fine to use and I use it myself and have used it for the
past 4 years and 85k miles. Just don't use silicone break fluid. Synthetics are fine and I believe not as hydroscopic. I believe that is the correct term which means to attract water. Regular break fluid attracts moisture and as such lowers the boiling point of the break fluid which is the main reason it should be flushed regularly. I don't believe synthetics are as hydroscopic but I may be wrong. I don't imagine you ever have to worry about boiling points of break fluid though. I still wouldn't get it on my paint though. CaptainKrunch "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message news:1072570068.834218@prawn... > I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put > Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live > inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a > time. > The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS > brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... > > The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. > > THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic > clutch.... > > Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... > "Frozen in Fairbanks" > > |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
Yes it is perfectly fine to use and I use it myself and have used it for the
past 4 years and 85k miles. Just don't use silicone break fluid. Synthetics are fine and I believe not as hydroscopic. I believe that is the correct term which means to attract water. Regular break fluid attracts moisture and as such lowers the boiling point of the break fluid which is the main reason it should be flushed regularly. I don't believe synthetics are as hydroscopic but I may be wrong. I don't imagine you ever have to worry about boiling points of break fluid though. I still wouldn't get it on my paint though. CaptainKrunch "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message news:1072570068.834218@prawn... > I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put > Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live > inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a > time. > The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS > brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... > > The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. > > THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic > clutch.... > > Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... > "Frozen in Fairbanks" > > |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
Yes it is perfectly fine to use and I use it myself and have used it for the
past 4 years and 85k miles. Just don't use silicone break fluid. Synthetics are fine and I believe not as hydroscopic. I believe that is the correct term which means to attract water. Regular break fluid attracts moisture and as such lowers the boiling point of the break fluid which is the main reason it should be flushed regularly. I don't believe synthetics are as hydroscopic but I may be wrong. I don't imagine you ever have to worry about boiling points of break fluid though. I still wouldn't get it on my paint though. CaptainKrunch "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message news:1072570068.834218@prawn... > I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put > Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live > inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a > time. > The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS > brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... > > The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. > > THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic > clutch.... > > Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... > "Frozen in Fairbanks" > > |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
I use the Valvoline Syntech brake fluid in all my cars.
BTW, you might wanna rethink about waiting till spring when it is warmer! I change the brake fluid once a year, but have no ABS to worry about. "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message news:1072570068.834218@prawn... > I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put > Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live > inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a > time. > The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS > brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... > > The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. > > THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic > clutch.... > > Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... > "Frozen in Fairbanks" > > |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
I use the Valvoline Syntech brake fluid in all my cars.
BTW, you might wanna rethink about waiting till spring when it is warmer! I change the brake fluid once a year, but have no ABS to worry about. "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message news:1072570068.834218@prawn... > I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put > Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live > inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a > time. > The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS > brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... > > The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. > > THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic > clutch.... > > Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... > "Frozen in Fairbanks" > > |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
I use the Valvoline Syntech brake fluid in all my cars.
BTW, you might wanna rethink about waiting till spring when it is warmer! I change the brake fluid once a year, but have no ABS to worry about. "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message news:1072570068.834218@prawn... > I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put > Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live > inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a > time. > The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS > brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... > > The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. > > THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic > clutch.... > > Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... > "Frozen in Fairbanks" > > |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
I use the Valvoline Syntech brake fluid in all my cars.
BTW, you might wanna rethink about waiting till spring when it is warmer! I change the brake fluid once a year, but have no ABS to worry about. "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net> wrote in message news:1072570068.834218@prawn... > I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put > Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live > inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a > time. > The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS > brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... > > The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. > > THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic > clutch.... > > Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... > "Frozen in Fairbanks" > > |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:07:49 GMT, "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net>
wrote: >I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put >Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live >inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a >time. >The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS >brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... The term "synthetic" in relation to brake fluid is redundant - all brake fluids are synthetic. Apart from the silicone types, which are not considered suitable for road use, they're basically mixtures of glycols and/or higher alcohols. >The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. If you want your ABS to last, i.e. avoid big $$ repairs, I'd recommend changing the fluid in the reservoir once a year. >THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic >clutch.... Honda doesn't have a clutch fluid change on their scheduled maintenance but again, if you want it to last, change the fluid regularly - at least every 2years. >Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... >"Frozen in Fairbanks" No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me?? |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:07:49 GMT, "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net>
wrote: >I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put >Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live >inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a >time. >The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS >brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... The term "synthetic" in relation to brake fluid is redundant - all brake fluids are synthetic. Apart from the silicone types, which are not considered suitable for road use, they're basically mixtures of glycols and/or higher alcohols. >The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. If you want your ABS to last, i.e. avoid big $$ repairs, I'd recommend changing the fluid in the reservoir once a year. >THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic >clutch.... Honda doesn't have a clutch fluid change on their scheduled maintenance but again, if you want it to last, change the fluid regularly - at least every 2years. >Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... >"Frozen in Fairbanks" No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me?? |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:07:49 GMT, "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net>
wrote: >I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put >Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live >inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a >time. >The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS >brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... The term "synthetic" in relation to brake fluid is redundant - all brake fluids are synthetic. Apart from the silicone types, which are not considered suitable for road use, they're basically mixtures of glycols and/or higher alcohols. >The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. If you want your ABS to last, i.e. avoid big $$ repairs, I'd recommend changing the fluid in the reservoir once a year. >THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic >clutch.... Honda doesn't have a clutch fluid change on their scheduled maintenance but again, if you want it to last, change the fluid regularly - at least every 2years. >Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... >"Frozen in Fairbanks" No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me?? |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:07:49 GMT, "mark smith" <msmith@ptialaska.net>
wrote: >I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put >Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live >inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a >time. >The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS >brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids..... The term "synthetic" in relation to brake fluid is redundant - all brake fluids are synthetic. Apart from the silicone types, which are not considered suitable for road use, they're basically mixtures of glycols and/or higher alcohols. >The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission. If you want your ABS to last, i.e. avoid big $$ repairs, I'd recommend changing the fluid in the reservoir once a year. >THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic >clutch.... Honda doesn't have a clutch fluid change on their scheduled maintenance but again, if you want it to last, change the fluid regularly - at least every 2years. >Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help... >"Frozen in Fairbanks" No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me?? |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
George Macdonald wrote:
(snip) > No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake > fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. Why is that? |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
George Macdonald wrote:
(snip) > No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake > fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. Why is that? |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
George Macdonald wrote:
(snip) > No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake > fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. Why is that? |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
George Macdonald wrote:
(snip) > No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake > fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. Why is that? |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>George Macdonald wrote: > >(snip) > >> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake >> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. > >Why is that? It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of residue after another 20K miles. Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have different stuff in them. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me?? |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>George Macdonald wrote: > >(snip) > >> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake >> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. > >Why is that? It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of residue after another 20K miles. Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have different stuff in them. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me?? |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>George Macdonald wrote: > >(snip) > >> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake >> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. > >Why is that? It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of residue after another 20K miles. Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have different stuff in them. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me?? |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>George Macdonald wrote: > >(snip) > >> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake >> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. > >Why is that? It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of residue after another 20K miles. Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have different stuff in them. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me?? |
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George Macdonald wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote: > >>George Macdonald wrote: >> >>(snip) >> >>>No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake >>>fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. >> >>Why is that? > > It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I > decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found > the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along > with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't > understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the > reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the > reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an > undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol > stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of > residue after another 20K miles. > > Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have > different stuff in them. Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on. Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too. However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct? My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my '88 Integra. |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
George Macdonald wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote: > >>George Macdonald wrote: >> >>(snip) >> >>>No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake >>>fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. >> >>Why is that? > > It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I > decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found > the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along > with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't > understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the > reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the > reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an > undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol > stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of > residue after another 20K miles. > > Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have > different stuff in them. Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on. Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too. However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct? My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my '88 Integra. |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
George Macdonald wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote: > >>George Macdonald wrote: >> >>(snip) >> >>>No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake >>>fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. >> >>Why is that? > > It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I > decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found > the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along > with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't > understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the > reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the > reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an > undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol > stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of > residue after another 20K miles. > > Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have > different stuff in them. Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on. Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too. However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct? My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my '88 Integra. |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
George Macdonald wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote: > >>George Macdonald wrote: >> >>(snip) >> >>>No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake >>>fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells. >> >>Why is that? > > It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I > decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found > the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along > with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't > understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the > reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the > reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an > undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol > stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of > residue after another 20K miles. > > Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have > different stuff in them. Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on. Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too. However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct? My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my '88 Integra. |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have a few car venders. Richard. |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have a few car venders. Richard. |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
Richard wrote: > > The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". > Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO > and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have > a few car venders. > > Richard. The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will quickly ruin an engine. -- JT Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4 |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
Richard wrote: > > The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". > Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO > and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have > a few car venders. > > Richard. The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will quickly ruin an engine. -- JT Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4 |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
"Grumpy au Contraire" <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote in message news:41408C29.C4E02CBD@doofis.FAKEcom... > > > Richard wrote: >> >> The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". >> Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. >> NATO >> and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as >> have >> a few car venders. >> >> Richard. > > > The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage > into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone > will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will > quickly ruin an engine. I would think silicon would do that, not silicone. |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
"Grumpy au Contraire" <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote in message news:41408C29.C4E02CBD@doofis.FAKEcom... > > > Richard wrote: >> >> The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". >> Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. >> NATO >> and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as >> have >> a few car venders. >> >> Richard. > > > The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage > into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone > will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will > quickly ruin an engine. I would think silicon would do that, not silicone. |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:02:31 -0400, "Richard" <rfeirste at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
|| ||The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". I didn't catch the first part of this thread, but when you mix silicone brake fluid wiht glycol fluid, you get a grey slime. I generally see it in systems that have been drained, but not flushed, then DOT 5 silicone added. The silicone reacts with the glycol. Personally, I don't understand this since silicone is about as inert a substance as exists in the universe. Texas Parts Guy |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:02:31 -0400, "Richard" <rfeirste at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
|| ||The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". I didn't catch the first part of this thread, but when you mix silicone brake fluid wiht glycol fluid, you get a grey slime. I generally see it in systems that have been drained, but not flushed, then DOT 5 silicone added. The silicone reacts with the glycol. Personally, I don't understand this since silicone is about as inert a substance as exists in the universe. Texas Parts Guy |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
Steve Bigelow wrote: > > "Grumpy au Contraire" <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote in message > news:41408C29.C4E02CBD@doofis.FAKEcom... > > > > > > Richard wrote: > >> > >> The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". > >> Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. > >> NATO > >> and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as > >> have > >> a few car venders. > >> > >> Richard. > > > > > > The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage > > into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone > > will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will > > quickly ruin an engine. > > I would think silicon would do that, not silicone. Yer prolly right. I have Pamela Anderson on my mind... -- JT Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4 |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
Steve Bigelow wrote: > > "Grumpy au Contraire" <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote in message > news:41408C29.C4E02CBD@doofis.FAKEcom... > > > > > > Richard wrote: > >> > >> The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". > >> Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. > >> NATO > >> and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as > >> have > >> a few car venders. > >> > >> Richard. > > > > > > The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage > > into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone > > will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will > > quickly ruin an engine. > > I would think silicon would do that, not silicone. Yer prolly right. I have Pamela Anderson on my mind... -- JT Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4 |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:57:44 GMT, Grumpy au Contraire <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom>
wrote: || || ||Richard wrote: ||> ||> The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". ||> Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO ||> and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have ||> a few car venders. ||> ||> Richard. || || ||The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage ||into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone ||will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will ||quickly ruin an engine. I have never known brake fluid to get into an engine from a defective master cylinder or booster. It would have to be leeking fast out the back of the MC, and the booster would take a great deal of fluid - more than the brake system holds - to reach the check valve leading to the hose to the manifold. Texas Parts Guy |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:57:44 GMT, Grumpy au Contraire <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom>
wrote: || || ||Richard wrote: ||> ||> The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". ||> Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO ||> and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have ||> a few car venders. ||> ||> Richard. || || ||The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage ||into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone ||will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will ||quickly ruin an engine. I have never known brake fluid to get into an engine from a defective master cylinder or booster. It would have to be leeking fast out the back of the MC, and the booster would take a great deal of fluid - more than the brake system holds - to reach the check valve leading to the hose to the manifold. Texas Parts Guy |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
Rex B wrote: > > On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:57:44 GMT, Grumpy au Contraire <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> > wrote: > > || > || > ||Richard wrote: > ||> > ||> The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". > ||> Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO > ||> and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have > ||> a few car venders. > ||> > ||> Richard. > || > || > ||The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage > ||into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone > ||will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will > ||quickly ruin an engine. > > I have never known brake fluid to get into an engine from a defective master > cylinder or booster. It would have to be leeking fast out the back of the MC, > and the booster would take a great deal of fluid - more than the brake system > holds - to reach the check valve leading to the hose to the manifold. > Texas Parts Guy I know of at least three engines ruined by leaky master cylinders/boosters and this was in Texas. -- JT (Austin, TX - Home of the Weird...) |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
Rex B wrote: > > On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:57:44 GMT, Grumpy au Contraire <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> > wrote: > > || > || > ||Richard wrote: > ||> > ||> The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal". > ||> Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO > ||> and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have > ||> a few car venders. > ||> > ||> Richard. > || > || > ||The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage > ||into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone > ||will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will > ||quickly ruin an engine. > > I have never known brake fluid to get into an engine from a defective master > cylinder or booster. It would have to be leeking fast out the back of the MC, > and the booster would take a great deal of fluid - more than the brake system > holds - to reach the check valve leading to the hose to the manifold. > Texas Parts Guy I know of at least three engines ruined by leaky master cylinders/boosters and this was in Texas. -- JT (Austin, TX - Home of the Weird...) |
Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
What the guy meant is to use Valvoline Synthetic DOT 4 Fluid. And I believe
other brands are out there. This is not DOT 5. I used it without any negative effect. Does it make stop faster? Don't know, I bleed my brakes every other year. "Rex B" <rex@@txol.net> wrote in message news:41409d37.2608963@news.txol.net... > On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:02:31 -0400, "Richard" <rfeirste at nycap.rr.com> > wrote: > > || > ||The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is > "normal". > > I didn't catch the first part of this thread, but when you mix silicone > brake > fluid wiht glycol fluid, you get a grey slime. I generally see it in > systems > that have been drained, but not flushed, then DOT 5 silicone added. The > silicone > reacts with the glycol. > Personally, I don't understand this since silicone is about as inert a > substance as exists in the universe. > Texas Parts Guy |
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