NewUser

Yup i have a torque rench,actually 2-3 of them...
Thanks for asking!
Need to borrow one?
"Paul" <paulDONTSPAMMEmueller@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:00PTd.7048$Ba3.5740@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> Yeah, minutes, after you jack up the car and take off the lug nuts, which
> if
> you're lucky aren't on so tight you can't get them off. And then, once you
> have your "instant answer," you get to put them back on and torque the
> nuts
> properly with your torque wrench. You DO have a torque wrench, right?
>
> Or you could ask the question and hope you get an accurate answer.
>
> I have VIN stickers in places on my '00 Accord where I never would have
> dreamed of looking on my '87 Civic -- because they weren't there. Who's to
> say they're not putting them on the wheels five years later?
>
>
> "NewUser" <no_spam4us@mail.cc> wrote in message
> newsoOTd.55149$6U2.1214629@weber.videotron.net.. .
> : It takes minutes to pull the wheel out.Look to see.You will have instant
> : answer.Never heard of VIN on wheels either.
> : "Paul" <paulDONTSPAMMEmueller@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> : news:x_LTd.14892$x53.12595@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> : > He asked about wheels, not tires. Not really an unreasonable question.
> : >
> : >
> : > "Rick" <kfial00@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> : > news:%SLTd.7243$OU1.2055@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m...
> : > : You may have VIN engraved on the windows and wind sheild, but I have
> : > never
> : > : seen any one put VIN on tires.
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : "Roger Neal" <rneal@ajconsulting.net> wrote in message
> : > : news:Xns960884FBDA77bgbgbgbg@140.99.99.130...
> : > : > I just got a new Accord recently and the dealer swapped (after
> much
> : > : > complaining!) out the wheels on the passenger side with those from
> : > another
> : > : > new one on the lot to correct a vibration issue that couldn't be
> : > balanced
> : > : > out.
> : > : >
> : > : > I see VIN stickers all over the vehicle...are they in the wheels
> too
> : > : > meaning I have two wheels with a different VIN sticker?
> : > : >
> : > : > RN
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

NewUser

Yup i have a torque rench,actually 2-3 of them...
Thanks for asking!
Need to borrow one?
"Paul" <paulDONTSPAMMEmueller@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:00PTd.7048$Ba3.5740@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> Yeah, minutes, after you jack up the car and take off the lug nuts, which
> if
> you're lucky aren't on so tight you can't get them off. And then, once you
> have your "instant answer," you get to put them back on and torque the
> nuts
> properly with your torque wrench. You DO have a torque wrench, right?
>
> Or you could ask the question and hope you get an accurate answer.
>
> I have VIN stickers in places on my '00 Accord where I never would have
> dreamed of looking on my '87 Civic -- because they weren't there. Who's to
> say they're not putting them on the wheels five years later?
>
>
> "NewUser" <no_spam4us@mail.cc> wrote in message
> newsoOTd.55149$6U2.1214629@weber.videotron.net.. .
> : It takes minutes to pull the wheel out.Look to see.You will have instant
> : answer.Never heard of VIN on wheels either.
> : "Paul" <paulDONTSPAMMEmueller@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> : news:x_LTd.14892$x53.12595@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> : > He asked about wheels, not tires. Not really an unreasonable question.
> : >
> : >
> : > "Rick" <kfial00@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> : > news:%SLTd.7243$OU1.2055@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m...
> : > : You may have VIN engraved on the windows and wind sheild, but I have
> : > never
> : > : seen any one put VIN on tires.
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : "Roger Neal" <rneal@ajconsulting.net> wrote in message
> : > : news:Xns960884FBDA77bgbgbgbg@140.99.99.130...
> : > : > I just got a new Accord recently and the dealer swapped (after
> much
> : > : > complaining!) out the wheels on the passenger side with those from
> : > another
> : > : > new one on the lot to correct a vibration issue that couldn't be
> : > balanced
> : > : > out.
> : > : >
> : > : > I see VIN stickers all over the vehicle...are they in the wheels
> too
> : > : > meaning I have two wheels with a different VIN sticker?
> : > : >
> : > : > RN
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

Eric

chip wrote:
>
> On 26 Feb 2005 00:36:23 GMT, "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote:
>
> >Roger Neal <rneal@ajconsulting.net> wrote in
> >news:Xns960884FBDA77bgbgbgbg@140.99.99.130:
> >
> >> I just got a new Accord recently and the dealer swapped (after much
> >> complaining!) out the wheels on the passenger side with those from
> >> another new one on the lot to correct a vibration issue that couldn't
> >> be balanced out.
> >>
> >> I see VIN stickers all over the vehicle...are they in the wheels too
> >> meaning I have two wheels with a different VIN sticker?
> >>
> >
> >
> >No stickers on the wheels. The VIN stickers are on body parts ONLY.
>
> and the engine and transmission..

....and the Automotive Industry Action Group, http://www.aig.org, has been
working on putting RFID tags into tires so that cars can be tracked
electronically through the assembly lines. Sure, so why have they made
these tags readable from 14.8 ft at speeds up to 100 Mph? It would seem to
me that they want to track the cars AFTER they've left the assembly line.

> "As part of a new, federally mandated tracking system, the three major
> U.S. automobile manufacturers plan to put special radio transponders
> known as radio frequency identification tags in every tire sold in the
> nation. Far exceeding congressional requirements, according to a
> leader of the Automotive Industry Action Group, an industry think
> tank, the tags can be read on vehicles going as fast as 160 kilometers
> per hour (100 mph) from a distance of 4.5 meters (14.8 ft)."
>
> Surveillance Nation by Dan Farmer and Charles C. Mann
> Technology Review, April 2003
>
> http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/farmer0403.asp

Eric

Eric

chip wrote:
>
> On 26 Feb 2005 00:36:23 GMT, "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote:
>
> >Roger Neal <rneal@ajconsulting.net> wrote in
> >news:Xns960884FBDA77bgbgbgbg@140.99.99.130:
> >
> >> I just got a new Accord recently and the dealer swapped (after much
> >> complaining!) out the wheels on the passenger side with those from
> >> another new one on the lot to correct a vibration issue that couldn't
> >> be balanced out.
> >>
> >> I see VIN stickers all over the vehicle...are they in the wheels too
> >> meaning I have two wheels with a different VIN sticker?
> >>
> >
> >
> >No stickers on the wheels. The VIN stickers are on body parts ONLY.
>
> and the engine and transmission..

....and the Automotive Industry Action Group, http://www.aig.org, has been
working on putting RFID tags into tires so that cars can be tracked
electronically through the assembly lines. Sure, so why have they made
these tags readable from 14.8 ft at speeds up to 100 Mph? It would seem to
me that they want to track the cars AFTER they've left the assembly line.

> "As part of a new, federally mandated tracking system, the three major
> U.S. automobile manufacturers plan to put special radio transponders
> known as radio frequency identification tags in every tire sold in the
> nation. Far exceeding congressional requirements, according to a
> leader of the Automotive Industry Action Group, an industry think
> tank, the tags can be read on vehicles going as fast as 160 kilometers
> per hour (100 mph) from a distance of 4.5 meters (14.8 ft)."
>
> Surveillance Nation by Dan Farmer and Charles C. Mann
> Technology Review, April 2003
>
> http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/farmer0403.asp

Eric

Michael Pardee

"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:4221A133.840ADB00@spam.now...
> chip wrote:
>
> ...and the Automotive Industry Action Group, http://www.aig.org, has been
> working on putting RFID tags into tires so that cars can be tracked
> electronically through the assembly lines. Sure, so why have they made
> these tags readable from 14.8 ft at speeds up to 100 Mph? It would seem
> to
> me that they want to track the cars AFTER they've left the assembly line.
>
>> "As part of a new, federally mandated tracking system, the three major
>> U.S. automobile manufacturers plan to put special radio transponders
>> known as radio frequency identification tags in every tire sold in the
>> nation. Far exceeding congressional requirements, according to a
>> leader of the Automotive Industry Action Group, an industry think
>> tank, the tags can be read on vehicles going as fast as 160 kilometers
>> per hour (100 mph) from a distance of 4.5 meters (14.8 ft)."
>>
>> Surveillance Nation by Dan Farmer and Charles C. Mann
>> Technology Review, April 2003
>>
>> http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/farmer0403.asp
>
> Eric

That's just a characteristic of RFID tags in general. The tag doesn't
determine the distance or time required to read them - that's all a matter
of the sensing equipment. Much like your face can be photographed from a
hundred yards away at 100 mph; it was not a design consideration.

Mike

Michael Pardee

"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:4221A133.840ADB00@spam.now...
> chip wrote:
>
> ...and the Automotive Industry Action Group, http://www.aig.org, has been
> working on putting RFID tags into tires so that cars can be tracked
> electronically through the assembly lines. Sure, so why have they made
> these tags readable from 14.8 ft at speeds up to 100 Mph? It would seem
> to
> me that they want to track the cars AFTER they've left the assembly line.
>
>> "As part of a new, federally mandated tracking system, the three major
>> U.S. automobile manufacturers plan to put special radio transponders
>> known as radio frequency identification tags in every tire sold in the
>> nation. Far exceeding congressional requirements, according to a
>> leader of the Automotive Industry Action Group, an industry think
>> tank, the tags can be read on vehicles going as fast as 160 kilometers
>> per hour (100 mph) from a distance of 4.5 meters (14.8 ft)."
>>
>> Surveillance Nation by Dan Farmer and Charles C. Mann
>> Technology Review, April 2003
>>
>> http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/farmer0403.asp
>
> Eric

That's just a characteristic of RFID tags in general. The tag doesn't
determine the distance or time required to read them - that's all a matter
of the sensing equipment. Much like your face can be photographed from a
hundred yards away at 100 mph; it was not a design consideration.

Mike