Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

On accounta why? I worked at a gas station during high school, and the
whole way through college. The guy I worked for sold Fram, and used them
on his thirty foot cabin cruiser. I have never used anything else. My
Accord has 215000 miles on it. I have done every oil change. I see no
reason to change the type of filter I use. bob

Robert wrote:
>
> Nah!.... never use Fram
>

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

Will the dealer still keep them in stock for the s2000? Will they increase
in price?


"B" <nospamimalsoknownas@aol.com> wrote in message
news:84r3ovgff63f4v68ccnmf0c6mcbndvri92@4ax.com...
> AFAIK, The Honda S2000 oil filters are the same as the "old" filters.
> So, if you are more comfortable using the "old" ones just order
> filters for the S2000.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:11:56 -0600, "Ted" <root@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >I took back my honda filters to the Honda Dealer because at first I
thought
> >the had given me the wrong size for my 99 civic. Upon further inspection
I
> >got some smaller filter for a dollar more that fits on the civic. Whats
> >this? Honda changed filters on me?
> >
> >I decied if they are going to charge me a 1 more per filter that was
quite a
> >bit smaller in diameter then I should at least make sure they are good..
> >Anyone know why they changed?
> >
> >
> >I'll take my money and go buy a good WAX for the same price with the
larger
> >size....
> >
>

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

Will the dealer still keep them in stock for the s2000? Will they increase
in price?


"B" <nospamimalsoknownas@aol.com> wrote in message
news:84r3ovgff63f4v68ccnmf0c6mcbndvri92@4ax.com...
> AFAIK, The Honda S2000 oil filters are the same as the "old" filters.
> So, if you are more comfortable using the "old" ones just order
> filters for the S2000.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:11:56 -0600, "Ted" <root@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >I took back my honda filters to the Honda Dealer because at first I
thought
> >the had given me the wrong size for my 99 civic. Upon further inspection
I
> >got some smaller filter for a dollar more that fits on the civic. Whats
> >this? Honda changed filters on me?
> >
> >I decied if they are going to charge me a 1 more per filter that was
quite a
> >bit smaller in diameter then I should at least make sure they are good..
> >Anyone know why they changed?
> >
> >
> >I'll take my money and go buy a good WAX for the same price with the
larger
> >size....
> >
>

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

Will the dealer still keep them in stock for the s2000? Will they increase
in price?


"B" <nospamimalsoknownas@aol.com> wrote in message
news:84r3ovgff63f4v68ccnmf0c6mcbndvri92@4ax.com...
> AFAIK, The Honda S2000 oil filters are the same as the "old" filters.
> So, if you are more comfortable using the "old" ones just order
> filters for the S2000.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:11:56 -0600, "Ted" <root@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >I took back my honda filters to the Honda Dealer because at first I
thought
> >the had given me the wrong size for my 99 civic. Upon further inspection
I
> >got some smaller filter for a dollar more that fits on the civic. Whats
> >this? Honda changed filters on me?
> >
> >I decied if they are going to charge me a 1 more per filter that was
quite a
> >bit smaller in diameter then I should at least make sure they are good..
> >Anyone know why they changed?
> >
> >
> >I'll take my money and go buy a good WAX for the same price with the
larger
> >size....
> >
>

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

Thats the point. The S2000's current filter is identical to the old
filter for every other Honda. So, by buying S2000 filters you would
be getting the "old" style filter that you are familiar with.



On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:48:45 -0600, "Ted" <root@aol.com> wrote:

>Will the dealer still keep them in stock for the s2000? Will they increase
>in price?
>
>
>"B" <nospamimalsoknownas@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:84r3ovgff63f4v68ccnmf0c6mcbndvri92@4ax.com.. .
>> AFAIK, The Honda S2000 oil filters are the same as the "old" filters.
>> So, if you are more comfortable using the "old" ones just order
>> filters for the S2000.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:11:56 -0600, "Ted" <root@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I took back my honda filters to the Honda Dealer because at first I
>thought
>> >the had given me the wrong size for my 99 civic. Upon further inspection
>I
>> >got some smaller filter for a dollar more that fits on the civic. Whats
>> >this? Honda changed filters on me?
>> >
>> >I decied if they are going to charge me a 1 more per filter that was
>quite a
>> >bit smaller in diameter then I should at least make sure they are good..
>> >Anyone know why they changed?
>> >
>> >
>> >I'll take my money and go buy a good WAX for the same price with the
>larger
>> >size....
>> >
>>
>

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

Thats the point. The S2000's current filter is identical to the old
filter for every other Honda. So, by buying S2000 filters you would
be getting the "old" style filter that you are familiar with.



On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:48:45 -0600, "Ted" <root@aol.com> wrote:

>Will the dealer still keep them in stock for the s2000? Will they increase
>in price?
>
>
>"B" <nospamimalsoknownas@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:84r3ovgff63f4v68ccnmf0c6mcbndvri92@4ax.com.. .
>> AFAIK, The Honda S2000 oil filters are the same as the "old" filters.
>> So, if you are more comfortable using the "old" ones just order
>> filters for the S2000.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:11:56 -0600, "Ted" <root@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I took back my honda filters to the Honda Dealer because at first I
>thought
>> >the had given me the wrong size for my 99 civic. Upon further inspection
>I
>> >got some smaller filter for a dollar more that fits on the civic. Whats
>> >this? Honda changed filters on me?
>> >
>> >I decied if they are going to charge me a 1 more per filter that was
>quite a
>> >bit smaller in diameter then I should at least make sure they are good..
>> >Anyone know why they changed?
>> >
>> >
>> >I'll take my money and go buy a good WAX for the same price with the
>larger
>> >size....
>> >
>>
>

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

Thats the point. The S2000's current filter is identical to the old
filter for every other Honda. So, by buying S2000 filters you would
be getting the "old" style filter that you are familiar with.



On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:48:45 -0600, "Ted" <root@aol.com> wrote:

>Will the dealer still keep them in stock for the s2000? Will they increase
>in price?
>
>
>"B" <nospamimalsoknownas@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:84r3ovgff63f4v68ccnmf0c6mcbndvri92@4ax.com.. .
>> AFAIK, The Honda S2000 oil filters are the same as the "old" filters.
>> So, if you are more comfortable using the "old" ones just order
>> filters for the S2000.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:11:56 -0600, "Ted" <root@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I took back my honda filters to the Honda Dealer because at first I
>thought
>> >the had given me the wrong size for my 99 civic. Upon further inspection
>I
>> >got some smaller filter for a dollar more that fits on the civic. Whats
>> >this? Honda changed filters on me?
>> >
>> >I decied if they are going to charge me a 1 more per filter that was
>quite a
>> >bit smaller in diameter then I should at least make sure they are good..
>> >Anyone know why they changed?
>> >
>> >
>> >I'll take my money and go buy a good WAX for the same price with the
>larger
>> >size....
>> >
>>
>

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

In article <3F82B8C1.51BBCB30@neo.rr.com>,
"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote:

> On accounta why? I worked at a gas station during high school, and the
> whole way through college. The guy I worked for sold Fram, and used them
> on his thirty foot cabin cruiser. I have never used anything else. My
> Accord has 215000 miles on it. I have done every oil change. I see no
> reason to change the type of filter I use. bob

Bob, Fram used to be the best filter money could buy. Then AlliedSignal
bought Fram, and the quality went to hell. They do work, but there are
better options today.

John Force uses Frams on his race car. If you ran an engine for a whole
minute before you rebuilt it like John does, a Fram would be fine. A Mr.
Coffee filter would be fine on John Force's race car; all he has to
worry about is straining whole pistons out of the oil. I don't like
rebuilding engines after one minute.

I know Purolator makes Honda's OEM filters--they make most OEM filters.
One of the Purolator oil filter plants is in Fayetteville, NC (as am I)
and they maintain a production line that does nothing but OEM filters.
We printed a little promotional piece for them. It was all in Japanese
so I couldn't read it, but there was a photo...of a Honda, a Mazda and a
Nissan OEM filter sitting next to each other. I run Purolator PureOnes
in just about everything I've got to maintain that has an oil filter.
They keep the oil clean. They tell me a Mobil 1 is a great filter. For
what they want for one, it damn well better be.

But as with anything else Honda, it seems that it's best just to put
Honda parts on it.

(Is it just me, or are Honda owners more devoted to OEM parts than
Harley riders?)

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

In article <3F82B8C1.51BBCB30@neo.rr.com>,
"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote:

> On accounta why? I worked at a gas station during high school, and the
> whole way through college. The guy I worked for sold Fram, and used them
> on his thirty foot cabin cruiser. I have never used anything else. My
> Accord has 215000 miles on it. I have done every oil change. I see no
> reason to change the type of filter I use. bob

Bob, Fram used to be the best filter money could buy. Then AlliedSignal
bought Fram, and the quality went to hell. They do work, but there are
better options today.

John Force uses Frams on his race car. If you ran an engine for a whole
minute before you rebuilt it like John does, a Fram would be fine. A Mr.
Coffee filter would be fine on John Force's race car; all he has to
worry about is straining whole pistons out of the oil. I don't like
rebuilding engines after one minute.

I know Purolator makes Honda's OEM filters--they make most OEM filters.
One of the Purolator oil filter plants is in Fayetteville, NC (as am I)
and they maintain a production line that does nothing but OEM filters.
We printed a little promotional piece for them. It was all in Japanese
so I couldn't read it, but there was a photo...of a Honda, a Mazda and a
Nissan OEM filter sitting next to each other. I run Purolator PureOnes
in just about everything I've got to maintain that has an oil filter.
They keep the oil clean. They tell me a Mobil 1 is a great filter. For
what they want for one, it damn well better be.

But as with anything else Honda, it seems that it's best just to put
Honda parts on it.

(Is it just me, or are Honda owners more devoted to OEM parts than
Harley riders?)

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

In article <3F82B8C1.51BBCB30@neo.rr.com>,
"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote:

> On accounta why? I worked at a gas station during high school, and the
> whole way through college. The guy I worked for sold Fram, and used them
> on his thirty foot cabin cruiser. I have never used anything else. My
> Accord has 215000 miles on it. I have done every oil change. I see no
> reason to change the type of filter I use. bob

Bob, Fram used to be the best filter money could buy. Then AlliedSignal
bought Fram, and the quality went to hell. They do work, but there are
better options today.

John Force uses Frams on his race car. If you ran an engine for a whole
minute before you rebuilt it like John does, a Fram would be fine. A Mr.
Coffee filter would be fine on John Force's race car; all he has to
worry about is straining whole pistons out of the oil. I don't like
rebuilding engines after one minute.

I know Purolator makes Honda's OEM filters--they make most OEM filters.
One of the Purolator oil filter plants is in Fayetteville, NC (as am I)
and they maintain a production line that does nothing but OEM filters.
We printed a little promotional piece for them. It was all in Japanese
so I couldn't read it, but there was a photo...of a Honda, a Mazda and a
Nissan OEM filter sitting next to each other. I run Purolator PureOnes
in just about everything I've got to maintain that has an oil filter.
They keep the oil clean. They tell me a Mobil 1 is a great filter. For
what they want for one, it damn well better be.

But as with anything else Honda, it seems that it's best just to put
Honda parts on it.

(Is it just me, or are Honda owners more devoted to OEM parts than
Harley riders?)

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

Jim Mowreader wrote:

> In article <3F82B8C1.51BBCB30@neo.rr.com>,
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On accounta why? I worked at a gas station during high school, and the
>>whole way through college. The guy I worked for sold Fram, and used them
>>on his thirty foot cabin cruiser. I have never used anything else. My
>>Accord has 215000 miles on it. I have done every oil change. I see no
>>reason to change the type of filter I use. bob
>
>
> Bob, Fram used to be the best filter money could buy. Then AlliedSignal
> bought Fram, and the quality went to hell. They do work, but there are
> better options today.
>
> John Force uses Frams on his race car. If you ran an engine for a whole
> minute before you rebuilt it like John does, a Fram would be fine. A Mr.
> Coffee filter would be fine on John Force's race car; all he has to
> worry about is straining whole pistons out of the oil. I don't like
> rebuilding engines after one minute.
>
> I know Purolator makes Honda's OEM filters--they make most OEM filters.
> One of the Purolator oil filter plants is in Fayetteville, NC (as am I)
> and they maintain a production line that does nothing but OEM filters.
> We printed a little promotional piece for them. It was all in Japanese
> so I couldn't read it, but there was a photo...of a Honda, a Mazda and a
> Nissan OEM filter sitting next to each other. I run Purolator PureOnes
> in just about everything I've got to maintain that has an oil filter.
> They keep the oil clean. They tell me a Mobil 1 is a great filter. For
> what they want for one, it damn well better be.
>
> But as with anything else Honda, it seems that it's best just to put
> Honda parts on it.
>
> (Is it just me, or are Honda owners more devoted to OEM parts than
> Harley riders?)

Hi,
Didn't CR some time ago rated Purolator above Fram?
Tony

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

Jim Mowreader wrote:

> In article <3F82B8C1.51BBCB30@neo.rr.com>,
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On accounta why? I worked at a gas station during high school, and the
>>whole way through college. The guy I worked for sold Fram, and used them
>>on his thirty foot cabin cruiser. I have never used anything else. My
>>Accord has 215000 miles on it. I have done every oil change. I see no
>>reason to change the type of filter I use. bob
>
>
> Bob, Fram used to be the best filter money could buy. Then AlliedSignal
> bought Fram, and the quality went to hell. They do work, but there are
> better options today.
>
> John Force uses Frams on his race car. If you ran an engine for a whole
> minute before you rebuilt it like John does, a Fram would be fine. A Mr.
> Coffee filter would be fine on John Force's race car; all he has to
> worry about is straining whole pistons out of the oil. I don't like
> rebuilding engines after one minute.
>
> I know Purolator makes Honda's OEM filters--they make most OEM filters.
> One of the Purolator oil filter plants is in Fayetteville, NC (as am I)
> and they maintain a production line that does nothing but OEM filters.
> We printed a little promotional piece for them. It was all in Japanese
> so I couldn't read it, but there was a photo...of a Honda, a Mazda and a
> Nissan OEM filter sitting next to each other. I run Purolator PureOnes
> in just about everything I've got to maintain that has an oil filter.
> They keep the oil clean. They tell me a Mobil 1 is a great filter. For
> what they want for one, it damn well better be.
>
> But as with anything else Honda, it seems that it's best just to put
> Honda parts on it.
>
> (Is it just me, or are Honda owners more devoted to OEM parts than
> Harley riders?)

Hi,
Didn't CR some time ago rated Purolator above Fram?
Tony

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

Jim Mowreader wrote:

> In article <3F82B8C1.51BBCB30@neo.rr.com>,
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On accounta why? I worked at a gas station during high school, and the
>>whole way through college. The guy I worked for sold Fram, and used them
>>on his thirty foot cabin cruiser. I have never used anything else. My
>>Accord has 215000 miles on it. I have done every oil change. I see no
>>reason to change the type of filter I use. bob
>
>
> Bob, Fram used to be the best filter money could buy. Then AlliedSignal
> bought Fram, and the quality went to hell. They do work, but there are
> better options today.
>
> John Force uses Frams on his race car. If you ran an engine for a whole
> minute before you rebuilt it like John does, a Fram would be fine. A Mr.
> Coffee filter would be fine on John Force's race car; all he has to
> worry about is straining whole pistons out of the oil. I don't like
> rebuilding engines after one minute.
>
> I know Purolator makes Honda's OEM filters--they make most OEM filters.
> One of the Purolator oil filter plants is in Fayetteville, NC (as am I)
> and they maintain a production line that does nothing but OEM filters.
> We printed a little promotional piece for them. It was all in Japanese
> so I couldn't read it, but there was a photo...of a Honda, a Mazda and a
> Nissan OEM filter sitting next to each other. I run Purolator PureOnes
> in just about everything I've got to maintain that has an oil filter.
> They keep the oil clean. They tell me a Mobil 1 is a great filter. For
> what they want for one, it damn well better be.
>
> But as with anything else Honda, it seems that it's best just to put
> Honda parts on it.
>
> (Is it just me, or are Honda owners more devoted to OEM parts than
> Harley riders?)

Hi,
Didn't CR some time ago rated Purolator above Fram?
Tony

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

In article <nKJhb.65817$pl3.41435@pd7tw3no>,
Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Didn't CR some time ago rated Purolator above Fram?

I believe they did.

Here's an interesting link:
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

This guy cuts apart oil filters for entertainment. This isn't exactly my
idea of a good time, but he likes it. He now recommends four
filters...Mobil 1, Amsoil, K&N and Fram X2. (He does say that the other
Frams are still not worth putting on your engine.) He also doesn't like
Bosch and STP filters...guess what's on my car? A Bosch. . Well, I
planned to drain out the oil that's in there now in a thousand miles--I
put dino juice in there for 1k just to get the sludge shook up, then
will change to Syntec and a K&N at that time.

Re: Took back my Honda filters
 

In article <nKJhb.65817$pl3.41435@pd7tw3no>,
Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Didn't CR some time ago rated Purolator above Fram?

I believe they did.

Here's an interesting link:
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

This guy cuts apart oil filters for entertainment. This isn't exactly my
idea of a good time, but he likes it. He now recommends four
filters...Mobil 1, Amsoil, K&N and Fram X2. (He does say that the other
Frams are still not worth putting on your engine.) He also doesn't like
Bosch and STP filters...guess what's on my car? A Bosch. . Well, I
planned to drain out the oil that's in there now in a thousand miles--I
put dino juice in there for 1k just to get the sludge shook up, then
will change to Syntec and a K&N at that time.