Brian Smith

On 1/12/2010 1:36 PM, Guy wrote:
>
> Brian, I don't know but I'll take your word for it. To try to look at
> this on a "simple" basis, I've probably driven 2/3 of the miles I will
> ever drive so that leaves 1/3 left. At this point, the cost savings
> if any using nitrogen is reduced for me and that's giving them, the
> pro nitrogen guys the benefit of the doubt. Likely the truth is
> somewhere between what you and I feel and what they feel so you can
> see my savings will not be that great. The other factors such as
> convenience/inconvenience comes into play vs whatever the savings is.
> For example I have an air compressor so I can easily fill up my tires
> at home without running to the shop to get more nitrogen. Of course
> there are likely some other variables I'm ignoring but I'm trying to
> look at this on a simple basis. One idea just popped into my head
> but how do you really know how much nitrogen they're pumping into the
> tires....ie: 100%, 90% due to the imperfection of their own equipment
> such as leaking seals, etc.. ??? So this is why even if they are
> correct in theory about saving money, in practice it could be less
> than their proposed savings. Last as I said earlier, from what I've
> read on the net, I get the impression the majority are not in favor of
> it for the every day drivers (non-race car drivers). I remember even
> reading this with the corvette owners in their own newsgroup a couple
> of years or so ago. So the bottom line is, I think I'll stick with
> just air<grin>.

I have watched as another vehicle was being serviced in the tire shop
when I had my truck there. The tires were mounted (using regular air to
seat the beads properly. Then the valve was removed allowing the air to
escape before replacing the valve. This left the tire "empty" of
compressed air, just the normal air pressure in the tire. The nitrogen
pump was connected and the tire was brought up to the recommended
pressure. As you can see there is still a volume of *air* in the tire,
as this is all done in the shop and not in a vacuum.

Tegger

Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:hiid2v$17o$3@news.datemas.de:

>
> I have watched as another vehicle was being serviced in the tire
> shop when I had my truck there. The tires were mounted (using
> regular air to seat the beads properly. Then the valve was removed
> allowing the air to escape before replacing the valve. This left the
> tire "empty" of compressed air, just the normal air pressure in the
> tire. The nitrogen pump was connected and the tire was brought up to
> the recommended pressure. As you can see there is still a volume of
> *air* in the tire, as this is all done in the shop and not in a
> vacuum.
>


Doing that gives you 89% nitrogen instead of what the N2 generator is
capable of, which is about 95%.

Honda's official position for nitrogen in road cars is that nitrogen is a
waste of money and time.

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Brian Smith

On 1/12/2010 3:22 PM, Tegger wrote:
>
> Doing that gives you 89% nitrogen instead of what the N2 generator is
> capable of, which is about 95%.

My point exactly.

> Honda's official position for nitrogen in road cars is that nitrogen is a
> waste of money and time.

That is my official position, as well. :^)

Guy

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:25:47 -0400, Brian Smith
<Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:

>On 1/12/2010 3:22 PM, Tegger wrote:
>>
>> Doing that gives you 89% nitrogen instead of what the N2 generator is
>> capable of, which is about 95%.
>
> My point exactly.
>
>> Honda's official position for nitrogen in road cars is that nitrogen is a
>> waste of money and time.
>
> That is my official position, as well. :^)



Thanks Brian (and Tegger). I think we all agree on this as well as I
think the vast majority on the net that posted about it. Now if I
can master the TPMS crap. I'm probably getting ahead of myself as I
haven't driven the CR-V much yet. I guess I just want to know ahead
what to maybe expect and have a plan of action for it. The net sure
helps in that regard. It definitely helped me when negotiating the
purchase price because I read what others were paying.
Thanks again guys.

Tegger

"Guy" <void@void.com> wrote in
news:81mpk513p0s27sg0nmn9rr0ual9o2tvt27@4ax.com:

> Now if I can master the TPMS crap.



To master the TPMS stuff, just make sure all tires are precisely the same
pressure, INCLUDING THE SPARE. Check the road tires weekly, even if there's
no sign of trouble. Pressure drop won't be clearly visible until you've
lost more than half the air.

Use a store-bought gauge, not the one attached to the air pump at the gas
station, and use the same gauge for all tires. Check first thing in the
morning, before driving, and before the sun has a chance to reach any of
the tires. Set the pressure to the specification in your Owner's Manual.

If you have metal valve stems, only ever get the tires replaced at the
Honda dealer, and only ever use the OEM wheels that came with the vehicle.

Do all the above, and chances are pretty good the TPMS won't yell at you.

You don't like all that? Then maybe it's time for another armed revolution.
The King has been stepping over the line for quite some time now, and we've
been /more/ than happy to get stepped on the process.


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