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Transmission fluid
I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed every 30k. I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6 years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go. Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things have improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to me. Bruce. |
Re: Transmission fluid
It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do
it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny. Bruce Chastain wrote: > I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to > change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish > (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed > every 30k. > > I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found > that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6 > years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go. > > Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often > than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things have > improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to me. > > Bruce. |
Re: Transmission fluid
It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do
it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny. Bruce Chastain wrote: > I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to > change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish > (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed > every 30k. > > I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found > that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6 > years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go. > > Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often > than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things have > improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to me. > > Bruce. |
Re: Transmission fluid
It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do
it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny. Bruce Chastain wrote: > I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to > change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish > (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed > every 30k. > > I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found > that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6 > years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go. > > Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often > than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things have > improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to me. > > Bruce. |
Re: Transmission fluid
It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do
it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny. Bruce Chastain wrote: > I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to > change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish > (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed > every 30k. > > I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found > that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6 > years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go. > > Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often > than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things have > improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to me. > > Bruce. |
Re: Transmission fluid
Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has
experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the warranty on certain models. Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary services. The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal recommendation. In this case it would be 60k. A typical transmission service drains approximately 3 to 4 quarts from your trans and new fluid, ATF Z1 only, is used. Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO NOT FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended. Below is a copy directly from Honda's Flush and Additive Policy: Do not use transmission flushing machines. In the very rare instance where a flushing process is necessary (such as to remove improper fluids), a procedure is available which does not require special tools. Use of additives, solvents, cleaners or conditioners as part of a flush or as a performance enhancer is absolutely unnecessary and may affect transmission shift quality that would not be warrantable by Honda. Transmission fluid replacement (not flushing) should be recommended only at the mileage intervals specified in the owner's manual. Howard "Bruce Chastain" <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:sKieh.20452$9v5.3775@newssvr29.news.prodigy.n et... >I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to >change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now >brownish (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be >changed every 30k. > > I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found > that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6 > years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go. > > Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often > than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things > have improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to > me. > > Bruce. > > |
Re: Transmission fluid
Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has
experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the warranty on certain models. Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary services. The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal recommendation. In this case it would be 60k. A typical transmission service drains approximately 3 to 4 quarts from your trans and new fluid, ATF Z1 only, is used. Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO NOT FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended. Below is a copy directly from Honda's Flush and Additive Policy: Do not use transmission flushing machines. In the very rare instance where a flushing process is necessary (such as to remove improper fluids), a procedure is available which does not require special tools. Use of additives, solvents, cleaners or conditioners as part of a flush or as a performance enhancer is absolutely unnecessary and may affect transmission shift quality that would not be warrantable by Honda. Transmission fluid replacement (not flushing) should be recommended only at the mileage intervals specified in the owner's manual. Howard "Bruce Chastain" <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:sKieh.20452$9v5.3775@newssvr29.news.prodigy.n et... >I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to >change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now >brownish (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be >changed every 30k. > > I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found > that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6 > years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go. > > Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often > than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things > have improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to > me. > > Bruce. > > |
Re: Transmission fluid
Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has
experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the warranty on certain models. Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary services. The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal recommendation. In this case it would be 60k. A typical transmission service drains approximately 3 to 4 quarts from your trans and new fluid, ATF Z1 only, is used. Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO NOT FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended. Below is a copy directly from Honda's Flush and Additive Policy: Do not use transmission flushing machines. In the very rare instance where a flushing process is necessary (such as to remove improper fluids), a procedure is available which does not require special tools. Use of additives, solvents, cleaners or conditioners as part of a flush or as a performance enhancer is absolutely unnecessary and may affect transmission shift quality that would not be warrantable by Honda. Transmission fluid replacement (not flushing) should be recommended only at the mileage intervals specified in the owner's manual. Howard "Bruce Chastain" <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:sKieh.20452$9v5.3775@newssvr29.news.prodigy.n et... >I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to >change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now >brownish (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be >changed every 30k. > > I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found > that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6 > years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go. > > Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often > than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things > have improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to > me. > > Bruce. > > |
Re: Transmission fluid
Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has
experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the warranty on certain models. Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary services. The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal recommendation. In this case it would be 60k. A typical transmission service drains approximately 3 to 4 quarts from your trans and new fluid, ATF Z1 only, is used. Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO NOT FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended. Below is a copy directly from Honda's Flush and Additive Policy: Do not use transmission flushing machines. In the very rare instance where a flushing process is necessary (such as to remove improper fluids), a procedure is available which does not require special tools. Use of additives, solvents, cleaners or conditioners as part of a flush or as a performance enhancer is absolutely unnecessary and may affect transmission shift quality that would not be warrantable by Honda. Transmission fluid replacement (not flushing) should be recommended only at the mileage intervals specified in the owner's manual. Howard "Bruce Chastain" <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:sKieh.20452$9v5.3775@newssvr29.news.prodigy.n et... >I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to >change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now >brownish (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be >changed every 30k. > > I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found > that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6 > years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go. > > Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often > than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things > have improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to > me. > > Bruce. > > |
Re: Transmission fluid
"Howard" <howardh1951@(nospam)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:oAjeh.43$V07.9@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has > experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped > models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are > warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the > warranty on certain models. Interesting. No, no problems at all. The trans still works perfectly and smoothly. > Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are > infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary > services. I think so but I'll double check the color of the fluid myself. > The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to > consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal > recommendation. In this case it would be 60k. That's an interesting point. Because 95% of my trips are < 10 miles, "severe service" is probably appropriate. > Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO > NOT FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended. Thanks for the warning! Bruce. |
Re: Transmission fluid
"Howard" <howardh1951@(nospam)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:oAjeh.43$V07.9@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has > experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped > models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are > warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the > warranty on certain models. Interesting. No, no problems at all. The trans still works perfectly and smoothly. > Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are > infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary > services. I think so but I'll double check the color of the fluid myself. > The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to > consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal > recommendation. In this case it would be 60k. That's an interesting point. Because 95% of my trips are < 10 miles, "severe service" is probably appropriate. > Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO > NOT FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended. Thanks for the warning! Bruce. |
Re: Transmission fluid
"Howard" <howardh1951@(nospam)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:oAjeh.43$V07.9@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has > experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped > models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are > warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the > warranty on certain models. Interesting. No, no problems at all. The trans still works perfectly and smoothly. > Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are > infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary > services. I think so but I'll double check the color of the fluid myself. > The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to > consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal > recommendation. In this case it would be 60k. That's an interesting point. Because 95% of my trips are < 10 miles, "severe service" is probably appropriate. > Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO > NOT FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended. Thanks for the warning! Bruce. |
Re: Transmission fluid
"Howard" <howardh1951@(nospam)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:oAjeh.43$V07.9@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has > experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped > models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are > warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the > warranty on certain models. Interesting. No, no problems at all. The trans still works perfectly and smoothly. > Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are > infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary > services. I think so but I'll double check the color of the fluid myself. > The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to > consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal > recommendation. In this case it would be 60k. That's an interesting point. Because 95% of my trips are < 10 miles, "severe service" is probably appropriate. > Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO > NOT FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended. Thanks for the warning! Bruce. |
Re: Transmission fluid
"Thom" <thomcasey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165608501.319312.248940@f1g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do > it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the > right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny. Ah, good point. I've heard Hondas use mostly Honda supplied fluids only. Bruce. |
Re: Transmission fluid
"Thom" <thomcasey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165608501.319312.248940@f1g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do > it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the > right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny. Ah, good point. I've heard Hondas use mostly Honda supplied fluids only. Bruce. |
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