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Bruce Chastain 12-08-2006 02:08 PM

Transmission fluid
 
I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish
(instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed
every 30k.

I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found
that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6
years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go.

Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often
than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things have
improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to me.

Bruce.



Thom 12-08-2006 03:08 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do
it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the
right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny.

Bruce Chastain wrote:
> I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
> change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish
> (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed
> every 30k.
>
> I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found
> that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6
> years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go.
>
> Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often
> than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things have
> improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to me.
>
> Bruce.



Thom 12-08-2006 03:08 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do
it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the
right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny.

Bruce Chastain wrote:
> I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
> change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish
> (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed
> every 30k.
>
> I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found
> that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6
> years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go.
>
> Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often
> than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things have
> improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to me.
>
> Bruce.



Thom 12-08-2006 03:08 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do
it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the
right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny.

Bruce Chastain wrote:
> I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
> change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish
> (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed
> every 30k.
>
> I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found
> that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6
> years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go.
>
> Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often
> than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things have
> improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to me.
>
> Bruce.



Thom 12-08-2006 03:08 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do
it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the
right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny.

Bruce Chastain wrote:
> I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
> change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish
> (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed
> every 30k.
>
> I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found
> that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6
> years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go.
>
> Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often
> than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things have
> improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to me.
>
> Bruce.



Howard 12-08-2006 03:10 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has
experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped
models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are
warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the
warranty on certain models.
Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are
infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary
services.
The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to
consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal
recommendation. In this case it would be 60k.
A typical transmission service drains approximately 3 to 4 quarts from your
trans and new fluid, ATF Z1 only, is used.
Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO NOT
FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended.
Below is a copy directly from Honda's Flush and Additive Policy:
Do not use transmission flushing machines. In the very rare instance where a
flushing process is necessary (such as to remove improper fluids), a
procedure is available which does not require special tools. Use of
additives, solvents, cleaners or conditioners as part of a flush or as a
performance enhancer is absolutely unnecessary and may affect transmission
shift quality that would not be warrantable by Honda. Transmission fluid
replacement (not flushing) should be recommended only at the mileage
intervals specified in the owner's manual.

Howard

"Bruce Chastain" <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:sKieh.20452$9v5.3775@newssvr29.news.prodigy.n et...

>I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
>change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now
>brownish (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be
>changed every 30k.
>
> I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found
> that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6
> years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go.
>
> Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often
> than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things
> have improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to
> me.
>
> Bruce.
>
>




Howard 12-08-2006 03:10 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has
experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped
models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are
warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the
warranty on certain models.
Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are
infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary
services.
The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to
consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal
recommendation. In this case it would be 60k.
A typical transmission service drains approximately 3 to 4 quarts from your
trans and new fluid, ATF Z1 only, is used.
Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO NOT
FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended.
Below is a copy directly from Honda's Flush and Additive Policy:
Do not use transmission flushing machines. In the very rare instance where a
flushing process is necessary (such as to remove improper fluids), a
procedure is available which does not require special tools. Use of
additives, solvents, cleaners or conditioners as part of a flush or as a
performance enhancer is absolutely unnecessary and may affect transmission
shift quality that would not be warrantable by Honda. Transmission fluid
replacement (not flushing) should be recommended only at the mileage
intervals specified in the owner's manual.

Howard

"Bruce Chastain" <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:sKieh.20452$9v5.3775@newssvr29.news.prodigy.n et...

>I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
>change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now
>brownish (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be
>changed every 30k.
>
> I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found
> that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6
> years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go.
>
> Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often
> than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things
> have improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to
> me.
>
> Bruce.
>
>




Howard 12-08-2006 03:10 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has
experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped
models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are
warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the
warranty on certain models.
Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are
infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary
services.
The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to
consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal
recommendation. In this case it would be 60k.
A typical transmission service drains approximately 3 to 4 quarts from your
trans and new fluid, ATF Z1 only, is used.
Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO NOT
FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended.
Below is a copy directly from Honda's Flush and Additive Policy:
Do not use transmission flushing machines. In the very rare instance where a
flushing process is necessary (such as to remove improper fluids), a
procedure is available which does not require special tools. Use of
additives, solvents, cleaners or conditioners as part of a flush or as a
performance enhancer is absolutely unnecessary and may affect transmission
shift quality that would not be warrantable by Honda. Transmission fluid
replacement (not flushing) should be recommended only at the mileage
intervals specified in the owner's manual.

Howard

"Bruce Chastain" <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:sKieh.20452$9v5.3775@newssvr29.news.prodigy.n et...

>I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
>change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now
>brownish (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be
>changed every 30k.
>
> I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found
> that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6
> years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go.
>
> Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often
> than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things
> have improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to
> me.
>
> Bruce.
>
>




Howard 12-08-2006 03:10 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has
experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped
models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are
warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the
warranty on certain models.
Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are
infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary
services.
The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to
consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal
recommendation. In this case it would be 60k.
A typical transmission service drains approximately 3 to 4 quarts from your
trans and new fluid, ATF Z1 only, is used.
Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO NOT
FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended.
Below is a copy directly from Honda's Flush and Additive Policy:
Do not use transmission flushing machines. In the very rare instance where a
flushing process is necessary (such as to remove improper fluids), a
procedure is available which does not require special tools. Use of
additives, solvents, cleaners or conditioners as part of a flush or as a
performance enhancer is absolutely unnecessary and may affect transmission
shift quality that would not be warrantable by Honda. Transmission fluid
replacement (not flushing) should be recommended only at the mileage
intervals specified in the owner's manual.

Howard

"Bruce Chastain" <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:sKieh.20452$9v5.3775@newssvr29.news.prodigy.n et...

>I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
>change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now
>brownish (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be
>changed every 30k.
>
> I said no and when I got home I double-checked the owners manual and found
> that it specifies the first transmission fluid change at 120k miles / 6
> years. I only have 37k on it so I have a couple of years left to go.
>
> Does anyone feel that the transmission fluid should be changed more often
> than that? Is the color no longer a reliable indicator? I know things
> have improved but 120k miles / 6 years sounds like an awfully long time to
> me.
>
> Bruce.
>
>




Bruce Chastain 12-08-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
"Howard" <howardh1951@(nospam)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:oAjeh.43$V07.9@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has
> experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped
> models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are
> warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the
> warranty on certain models.


Interesting. No, no problems at all. The trans still works perfectly and
smoothly.

> Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are
> infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary
> services.


I think so but I'll double check the color of the fluid myself.

> The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to
> consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal
> recommendation. In this case it would be 60k.


That's an interesting point. Because 95% of my trips are < 10 miles,
"severe service" is probably appropriate.

> Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO
> NOT FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended.


Thanks for the warning!

Bruce.



Bruce Chastain 12-08-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
"Howard" <howardh1951@(nospam)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:oAjeh.43$V07.9@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has
> experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped
> models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are
> warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the
> warranty on certain models.


Interesting. No, no problems at all. The trans still works perfectly and
smoothly.

> Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are
> infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary
> services.


I think so but I'll double check the color of the fluid myself.

> The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to
> consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal
> recommendation. In this case it would be 60k.


That's an interesting point. Because 95% of my trips are < 10 miles,
"severe service" is probably appropriate.

> Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO
> NOT FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended.


Thanks for the warning!

Bruce.



Bruce Chastain 12-08-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
"Howard" <howardh1951@(nospam)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:oAjeh.43$V07.9@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has
> experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped
> models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are
> warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the
> warranty on certain models.


Interesting. No, no problems at all. The trans still works perfectly and
smoothly.

> Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are
> infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary
> services.


I think so but I'll double check the color of the fluid myself.

> The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to
> consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal
> recommendation. In this case it would be 60k.


That's an interesting point. Because 95% of my trips are < 10 miles,
"severe service" is probably appropriate.

> Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO
> NOT FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended.


Thanks for the warning!

Bruce.



Bruce Chastain 12-08-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
"Howard" <howardh1951@(nospam)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:oAjeh.43$V07.9@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> Are you having any problems with your transmission now? Honda has
> experienced an abnormal amount of problems with the trans in V-6 equipped
> models in the late 90's-early 2000's model years. They have and are
> warranteeing many that are beyond the normal period and have extended the
> warranty on certain models.


Interesting. No, no problems at all. The trans still works perfectly and
smoothly.

> Are you sure it was your fluid they were showing you. Quicklubes are
> infamous for substituting fluids and parts to justify their unnecessary
> services.


I think so but I'll double check the color of the fluid myself.

> The service interval in your owners manual is realistic. You may want to
> consider "severe service" intervals which are usually half the normal
> recommendation. In this case it would be 60k.


That's an interesting point. Because 95% of my trips are < 10 miles,
"severe service" is probably appropriate.

> Many non-Honda shops will suggest or coerce you in to a fluid flush. DO
> NOT FLUSH your transmission. It is highly unrecommended.


Thanks for the warning!

Bruce.



Bruce Chastain 12-08-2006 03:31 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
"Thom" <thomcasey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165608501.319312.248940@f1g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do
> it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the
> right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny.


Ah, good point. I've heard Hondas use mostly Honda supplied fluids only.

Bruce.



Bruce Chastain 12-08-2006 03:31 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
"Thom" <thomcasey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165608501.319312.248940@f1g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do
> it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the
> right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny.


Ah, good point. I've heard Hondas use mostly Honda supplied fluids only.

Bruce.



Bruce Chastain 12-08-2006 03:31 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
"Thom" <thomcasey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165608501.319312.248940@f1g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do
> it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the
> right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny.


Ah, good point. I've heard Hondas use mostly Honda supplied fluids only.

Bruce.



Bruce Chastain 12-08-2006 03:31 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
"Thom" <thomcasey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165608501.319312.248940@f1g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> It can never hurt to do it more often. But, if you do not want to do
> it yourself, get it done at the dealer. They make sure you get the
> right fluid, quick-lube will quickly ruin your tranny.


Ah, good point. I've heard Hondas use mostly Honda supplied fluids only.

Bruce.



John Horner 12-08-2006 11:02 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
Bruce Chastain wrote:
> I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
> change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish
> (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed
> every 30k.
>



I like to change it every 30k miles, but only use the real Honda ATF-Z1,
and don't use a flush machine. The Honda procedure calls for drain,
fill, drive, repeat for three times. Takes about 12 quarts to do.

John

John Horner 12-08-2006 11:02 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
Bruce Chastain wrote:
> I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
> change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish
> (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed
> every 30k.
>



I like to change it every 30k miles, but only use the real Honda ATF-Z1,
and don't use a flush machine. The Honda procedure calls for drain,
fill, drive, repeat for three times. Takes about 12 quarts to do.

John

John Horner 12-08-2006 11:02 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
Bruce Chastain wrote:
> I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
> change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish
> (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed
> every 30k.
>



I like to change it every 30k miles, but only use the real Honda ATF-Z1,
and don't use a flush machine. The Honda procedure calls for drain,
fill, drive, repeat for three times. Takes about 12 quarts to do.

John

John Horner 12-08-2006 11:02 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
Bruce Chastain wrote:
> I just had my 2002 Accord EX V6 at a quicklube place and they wanted to
> change the automatic transmission fluid, showing me that it was now brownish
> (instead of red), and claiming that transmission fluid should be changed
> every 30k.
>



I like to change it every 30k miles, but only use the real Honda ATF-Z1,
and don't use a flush machine. The Honda procedure calls for drain,
fill, drive, repeat for three times. Takes about 12 quarts to do.

John

Headknocker via CarKB.com 12-09-2006 03:13 AM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
Do it yourself because changing AT fluid on Hondas is easier than doing an
oil change.

And ONLY use Honda's fluid.

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Headknocker via CarKB.com 12-09-2006 03:13 AM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
Do it yourself because changing AT fluid on Hondas is easier than doing an
oil change.

And ONLY use Honda's fluid.

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Headknocker via CarKB.com 12-09-2006 03:13 AM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
Do it yourself because changing AT fluid on Hondas is easier than doing an
oil change.

And ONLY use Honda's fluid.

--
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Headknocker via CarKB.com 12-09-2006 03:13 AM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
Do it yourself because changing AT fluid on Hondas is easier than doing an
oil change.

And ONLY use Honda's fluid.

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karinhall 12-09-2006 02:04 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 

"Headknocker via CarKB.com" <u18602@uwe> wrote in message news:6a7e427426c68@uwe...

> Do it yourself because changing AT fluid on Hondas is easier than doing an
> oil change.
>
> And ONLY use Honda's fluid.
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...-cars/200612/1
>

Good advice, but is there a "cheaper" source for Honda A.T. fluid than the dealer?

karinhall 12-09-2006 02:04 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 

"Headknocker via CarKB.com" <u18602@uwe> wrote in message news:6a7e427426c68@uwe...

> Do it yourself because changing AT fluid on Hondas is easier than doing an
> oil change.
>
> And ONLY use Honda's fluid.
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...-cars/200612/1
>

Good advice, but is there a "cheaper" source for Honda A.T. fluid than the dealer?

karinhall 12-09-2006 02:04 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 

"Headknocker via CarKB.com" <u18602@uwe> wrote in message news:6a7e427426c68@uwe...

> Do it yourself because changing AT fluid on Hondas is easier than doing an
> oil change.
>
> And ONLY use Honda's fluid.
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...-cars/200612/1
>

Good advice, but is there a "cheaper" source for Honda A.T. fluid than the dealer?

karinhall 12-09-2006 02:04 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 

"Headknocker via CarKB.com" <u18602@uwe> wrote in message news:6a7e427426c68@uwe...

> Do it yourself because changing AT fluid on Hondas is easier than doing an
> oil change.
>
> And ONLY use Honda's fluid.
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...-cars/200612/1
>

Good advice, but is there a "cheaper" source for Honda A.T. fluid than the dealer?

Brian Smith 12-09-2006 06:37 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 

"karinhall" <ah@nsdap.com> wrote in message
news:QuednYFee_ohlebYnZ2dnUVZ_rylnZ2d@usa2net.net. ..
>
> Good advice, but is there a "cheaper" source for Honda A.T. fluid than the
> dealer?


If one can not afford the fluids and parts, one should not purchase the
vehicle.



Brian Smith 12-09-2006 06:37 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 

"karinhall" <ah@nsdap.com> wrote in message
news:QuednYFee_ohlebYnZ2dnUVZ_rylnZ2d@usa2net.net. ..
>
> Good advice, but is there a "cheaper" source for Honda A.T. fluid than the
> dealer?


If one can not afford the fluids and parts, one should not purchase the
vehicle.



Brian Smith 12-09-2006 06:37 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 

"karinhall" <ah@nsdap.com> wrote in message
news:QuednYFee_ohlebYnZ2dnUVZ_rylnZ2d@usa2net.net. ..
>
> Good advice, but is there a "cheaper" source for Honda A.T. fluid than the
> dealer?


If one can not afford the fluids and parts, one should not purchase the
vehicle.



Brian Smith 12-09-2006 06:37 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 

"karinhall" <ah@nsdap.com> wrote in message
news:QuednYFee_ohlebYnZ2dnUVZ_rylnZ2d@usa2net.net. ..
>
> Good advice, but is there a "cheaper" source for Honda A.T. fluid than the
> dealer?


If one can not afford the fluids and parts, one should not purchase the
vehicle.



Joe LaVigne 12-09-2006 08:03 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:37:09 +0000, Brian Smith wrote:

> "karinhall" <ah@nsdap.com> wrote in message
> news:QuednYFee_ohlebYnZ2dnUVZ_rylnZ2d@usa2net.net. ..
>>
>> Good advice, but is there a "cheaper" source for Honda A.T. fluid than the
>> dealer?

>
> If one can not afford the fluids and parts, one should not purchase the
> vehicle.


What an interesting, helpful, and incredibly stupid statement...

Joe LaVigne 12-09-2006 08:03 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:37:09 +0000, Brian Smith wrote:

> "karinhall" <ah@nsdap.com> wrote in message
> news:QuednYFee_ohlebYnZ2dnUVZ_rylnZ2d@usa2net.net. ..
>>
>> Good advice, but is there a "cheaper" source for Honda A.T. fluid than the
>> dealer?

>
> If one can not afford the fluids and parts, one should not purchase the
> vehicle.


What an interesting, helpful, and incredibly stupid statement...

Joe LaVigne 12-09-2006 08:03 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:37:09 +0000, Brian Smith wrote:

> "karinhall" <ah@nsdap.com> wrote in message
> news:QuednYFee_ohlebYnZ2dnUVZ_rylnZ2d@usa2net.net. ..
>>
>> Good advice, but is there a "cheaper" source for Honda A.T. fluid than the
>> dealer?

>
> If one can not afford the fluids and parts, one should not purchase the
> vehicle.


What an interesting, helpful, and incredibly stupid statement...

Joe LaVigne 12-09-2006 08:03 PM

Re: Transmission fluid
 
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:37:09 +0000, Brian Smith wrote:

> "karinhall" <ah@nsdap.com> wrote in message
> news:QuednYFee_ohlebYnZ2dnUVZ_rylnZ2d@usa2net.net. ..
>>
>> Good advice, but is there a "cheaper" source for Honda A.T. fluid than the
>> dealer?

>
> If one can not afford the fluids and parts, one should not purchase the
> vehicle.


What an interesting, helpful, and incredibly stupid statement...

Brian Smith 12-10-2006 04:12 AM

Re: Transmission fluid
 

"Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
news:elfmdv$15e$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> What an interesting, helpful, and incredibly stupid statement...


LOL! I guess you've never heard that old line before, "If you're worried
about the price, you can't afford it".



Brian Smith 12-10-2006 04:12 AM

Re: Transmission fluid
 

"Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
news:elfmdv$15e$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> What an interesting, helpful, and incredibly stupid statement...


LOL! I guess you've never heard that old line before, "If you're worried
about the price, you can't afford it".



Brian Smith 12-10-2006 04:12 AM

Re: Transmission fluid
 

"Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
news:elfmdv$15e$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> What an interesting, helpful, and incredibly stupid statement...


LOL! I guess you've never heard that old line before, "If you're worried
about the price, you can't afford it".




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