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Kilroy Bass 01-15-2004 02:41 AM

Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
a DRAIN AND FILL.

Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
fill?

I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.

CaptainKrunch 01-15-2004 01:03 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
uhmm..well the fluid is supposed to be changed every 15k I believe but
basically you just drain and fill. That is what the owner's manual, service
manual and Honda recommends. So the flush is a moot point.

CaptainKrunch


"Kilroy Bass" <kilroybass@catlover.com> wrote in message
news:4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.c om...
> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
> a DRAIN AND FILL.
>
> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
> fill?
>
> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.




CaptainKrunch 01-15-2004 01:03 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
uhmm..well the fluid is supposed to be changed every 15k I believe but
basically you just drain and fill. That is what the owner's manual, service
manual and Honda recommends. So the flush is a moot point.

CaptainKrunch


"Kilroy Bass" <kilroybass@catlover.com> wrote in message
news:4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.c om...
> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
> a DRAIN AND FILL.
>
> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
> fill?
>
> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.




CaptainKrunch 01-15-2004 01:03 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
uhmm..well the fluid is supposed to be changed every 15k I believe but
basically you just drain and fill. That is what the owner's manual, service
manual and Honda recommends. So the flush is a moot point.

CaptainKrunch


"Kilroy Bass" <kilroybass@catlover.com> wrote in message
news:4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.c om...
> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
> a DRAIN AND FILL.
>
> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
> fill?
>
> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.




CaptainKrunch 01-15-2004 01:03 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
uhmm..well the fluid is supposed to be changed every 15k I believe but
basically you just drain and fill. That is what the owner's manual, service
manual and Honda recommends. So the flush is a moot point.

CaptainKrunch


"Kilroy Bass" <kilroybass@catlover.com> wrote in message
news:4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.c om...
> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
> a DRAIN AND FILL.
>
> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
> fill?
>
> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.




Tom Wilson 01-15-2004 05:13 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >,
kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote:

> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
> a DRAIN AND FILL.
>
> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
> fill?
>
> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.


Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush
and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission
shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop.

A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill.

Tom Wilson 01-15-2004 05:13 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >,
kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote:

> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
> a DRAIN AND FILL.
>
> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
> fill?
>
> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.


Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush
and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission
shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop.

A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill.

Tom Wilson 01-15-2004 05:13 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >,
kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote:

> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
> a DRAIN AND FILL.
>
> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
> fill?
>
> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.


Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush
and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission
shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop.

A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill.

Tom Wilson 01-15-2004 05:13 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >,
kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote:

> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
> a DRAIN AND FILL.
>
> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
> fill?
>
> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.


Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush
and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission
shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop.

A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill.

Barry S. 01-15-2004 06:39 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom
Wilson) wrote:

>In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >,
>kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote:
>
>> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
>> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
>> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
>> a DRAIN AND FILL.
>>
>> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
>> fill?
>>
>> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
>> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
>> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.

>
>Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush
>and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission
>shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop.
>
>A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill.


Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out.
Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't
easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid
transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They
pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take
10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid..

Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) --
I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially
the same.

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Barry S. 01-15-2004 06:39 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom
Wilson) wrote:

>In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >,
>kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote:
>
>> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
>> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
>> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
>> a DRAIN AND FILL.
>>
>> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
>> fill?
>>
>> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
>> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
>> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.

>
>Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush
>and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission
>shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop.
>
>A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill.


Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out.
Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't
easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid
transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They
pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take
10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid..

Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) --
I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially
the same.

__________________
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N38.6 W121.4

Barry S. 01-15-2004 06:39 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom
Wilson) wrote:

>In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >,
>kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote:
>
>> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
>> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
>> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
>> a DRAIN AND FILL.
>>
>> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
>> fill?
>>
>> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
>> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
>> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.

>
>Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush
>and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission
>shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop.
>
>A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill.


Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out.
Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't
easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid
transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They
pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take
10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid..

Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) --
I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially
the same.

__________________
Note: To reply, replace the word 'spam' embedded in return address with 'mail'.
N38.6 W121.4

Barry S. 01-15-2004 06:39 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom
Wilson) wrote:

>In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >,
>kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote:
>
>> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
>> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
>> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
>> a DRAIN AND FILL.
>>
>> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
>> fill?
>>
>> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
>> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
>> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.

>
>Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush
>and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission
>shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop.
>
>A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill.


Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out.
Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't
easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid
transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They
pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take
10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid..

Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) --
I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially
the same.

__________________
Note: To reply, replace the word 'spam' embedded in return address with 'mail'.
N38.6 W121.4

Grumpy au Contraire 01-15-2004 08:37 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 


"Barry S." wrote:
>
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom
> Wilson) wrote:
>
> >In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >,
> >kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote:
> >
> >> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
> >> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
> >> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
> >> a DRAIN AND FILL.
> >>
> >> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
> >> fill?
> >>
> >> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
> >> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
> >> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.

> >
> >Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush
> >and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission
> >shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop.
> >
> >A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill.

>
> Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out.
> Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't
> easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid
> transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They
> pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take
> 10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid..
>
> Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) --
> I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially
> the same.
>
>



You mean to say that Hondas do not have a converter drain plug?

Another reason to keep driving my 1963 Studebaker...



--
JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4

Grumpy au Contraire 01-15-2004 08:37 PM

Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
 


"Barry S." wrote:
>
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom
> Wilson) wrote:
>
> >In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >,
> >kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote:
> >
> >> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service
> >> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill.
> >> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but
> >> a DRAIN AND FILL.
> >>
> >> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and
> >> fill?
> >>
> >> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my
> >> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change
> >> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven.

> >
> >Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush
> >and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission
> >shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop.
> >
> >A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill.

>
> Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out.
> Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't
> easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid
> transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They
> pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take
> 10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid..
>
> Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) --
> I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially
> the same.
>
>



You mean to say that Hondas do not have a converter drain plug?

Another reason to keep driving my 1963 Studebaker...



--
JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4


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