Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
"Barry S." wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom > Wilson) wrote: > > >In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >, > >kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote: > > > >> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service > >> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill. > >> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but > >> a DRAIN AND FILL. > >> > >> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and > >> fill? > >> > >> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my > >> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change > >> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven. > > > >Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush > >and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission > >shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop. > > > >A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill. > > Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out. > Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't > easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid > transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They > pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take > 10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid.. > > Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) -- > I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially > the same. > > You mean to say that Hondas do not have a converter drain plug? Another reason to keep driving my 1963 Studebaker... -- JT Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4 |
Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
"Barry S." wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom > Wilson) wrote: > > >In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >, > >kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote: > > > >> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service > >> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill. > >> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but > >> a DRAIN AND FILL. > >> > >> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and > >> fill? > >> > >> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my > >> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change > >> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven. > > > >Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush > >and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission > >shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop. > > > >A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill. > > Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out. > Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't > easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid > transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They > pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take > 10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid.. > > Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) -- > I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially > the same. > > You mean to say that Hondas do not have a converter drain plug? Another reason to keep driving my 1963 Studebaker... -- JT Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4 |
Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 01:37:26 GMT, Grumpy au Contraire
<Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote: > > >"Barry S." wrote: >> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom >> Wilson) wrote: >> >> >In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >, >> >kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote: >> > >> >> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service >> >> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill. >> >> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but >> >> a DRAIN AND FILL. >> >> >> >> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and >> >> fill? >> >> >> >> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my >> >> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change >> >> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven. >> > >> >Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush >> >and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission >> >shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop. >> > >> >A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill. >> >> Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out. >> Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't >> easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid >> transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They >> pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take >> 10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid.. >> >> Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) -- >> I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially >> the same. >> > >You mean to say that Hondas do not have a converter drain plug? Mine doesn't. __________________ Note: To reply, replace the word 'spam' embedded in return address with 'mail'. N38.6 W121.4 |
Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 01:37:26 GMT, Grumpy au Contraire
<Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote: > > >"Barry S." wrote: >> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom >> Wilson) wrote: >> >> >In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >, >> >kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote: >> > >> >> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service >> >> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill. >> >> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but >> >> a DRAIN AND FILL. >> >> >> >> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and >> >> fill? >> >> >> >> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my >> >> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change >> >> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven. >> > >> >Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush >> >and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission >> >shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop. >> > >> >A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill. >> >> Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out. >> Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't >> easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid >> transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They >> pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take >> 10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid.. >> >> Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) -- >> I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially >> the same. >> > >You mean to say that Hondas do not have a converter drain plug? Mine doesn't. __________________ Note: To reply, replace the word 'spam' embedded in return address with 'mail'. N38.6 W121.4 |
Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 01:37:26 GMT, Grumpy au Contraire
<Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote: > > >"Barry S." wrote: >> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom >> Wilson) wrote: >> >> >In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >, >> >kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote: >> > >> >> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service >> >> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill. >> >> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but >> >> a DRAIN AND FILL. >> >> >> >> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and >> >> fill? >> >> >> >> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my >> >> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change >> >> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven. >> > >> >Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush >> >and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission >> >shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop. >> > >> >A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill. >> >> Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out. >> Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't >> easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid >> transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They >> pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take >> 10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid.. >> >> Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) -- >> I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially >> the same. >> > >You mean to say that Hondas do not have a converter drain plug? Mine doesn't. __________________ Note: To reply, replace the word 'spam' embedded in return address with 'mail'. N38.6 W121.4 |
Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 01:37:26 GMT, Grumpy au Contraire
<Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote: > > >"Barry S." wrote: >> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom >> Wilson) wrote: >> >> >In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >, >> >kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote: >> > >> >> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service >> >> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill. >> >> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but >> >> a DRAIN AND FILL. >> >> >> >> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and >> >> fill? >> >> >> >> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my >> >> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change >> >> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven. >> > >> >Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush >> >and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission >> >shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop. >> > >> >A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill. >> >> Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out. >> Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't >> easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid >> transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They >> pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take >> 10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid.. >> >> Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) -- >> I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially >> the same. >> > >You mean to say that Hondas do not have a converter drain plug? Mine doesn't. __________________ Note: To reply, replace the word 'spam' embedded in return address with 'mail'. N38.6 W121.4 |
Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
In article <400741C2.6829BC70@doofis.FAKEcom>, Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom wrote:
> "Barry S." wrote: > > > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom > > Wilson) wrote: > > > > >In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >, > > >kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote: > > > > > >> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service > > >> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill. > > >> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but > > >> a DRAIN AND FILL. > > >> > > >> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and > > >> fill? > > >> > > >> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my > > >> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change > > >> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven. > > > > > >Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush > > >and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission > > >shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop. > > > > > >A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill. > > > > Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out. > > Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't > > easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid > > transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They > > pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take > > 10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid.. > > > > Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) -- > > I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially > > the same. > > > > > > > You mean to say that Hondas do not have a converter drain plug? > > Another reason to keep driving my 1963 Studebaker... Eventually, your 1963 Studebaker will develop serious engine problems--that happens to ALL motors eventually--at that point in time--what sort of vehicle will you buy? A Honda might not be a perfect vehicle but it's one of the best vehicles presently for sale. I hope that you will at least consider a Honda if your Studebaker quits running. I should also congratulate you on keeping the Studebaker running for so many years. You must really take great care of that car. |
Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
In article <400741C2.6829BC70@doofis.FAKEcom>, Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom wrote:
> "Barry S." wrote: > > > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom > > Wilson) wrote: > > > > >In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >, > > >kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote: > > > > > >> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service > > >> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill. > > >> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but > > >> a DRAIN AND FILL. > > >> > > >> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and > > >> fill? > > >> > > >> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my > > >> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change > > >> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven. > > > > > >Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush > > >and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission > > >shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop. > > > > > >A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill. > > > > Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out. > > Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't > > easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid > > transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They > > pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take > > 10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid.. > > > > Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) -- > > I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially > > the same. > > > > > > > You mean to say that Hondas do not have a converter drain plug? > > Another reason to keep driving my 1963 Studebaker... Eventually, your 1963 Studebaker will develop serious engine problems--that happens to ALL motors eventually--at that point in time--what sort of vehicle will you buy? A Honda might not be a perfect vehicle but it's one of the best vehicles presently for sale. I hope that you will at least consider a Honda if your Studebaker quits running. I should also congratulate you on keeping the Studebaker running for so many years. You must really take great care of that car. |
Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
In article <400741C2.6829BC70@doofis.FAKEcom>, Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom wrote:
> "Barry S." wrote: > > > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom > > Wilson) wrote: > > > > >In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >, > > >kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote: > > > > > >> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service > > >> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill. > > >> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but > > >> a DRAIN AND FILL. > > >> > > >> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and > > >> fill? > > >> > > >> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my > > >> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change > > >> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven. > > > > > >Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush > > >and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission > > >shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop. > > > > > >A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill. > > > > Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out. > > Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't > > easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid > > transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They > > pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take > > 10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid.. > > > > Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) -- > > I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially > > the same. > > > > > > > You mean to say that Hondas do not have a converter drain plug? > > Another reason to keep driving my 1963 Studebaker... Eventually, your 1963 Studebaker will develop serious engine problems--that happens to ALL motors eventually--at that point in time--what sort of vehicle will you buy? A Honda might not be a perfect vehicle but it's one of the best vehicles presently for sale. I hope that you will at least consider a Honda if your Studebaker quits running. I should also congratulate you on keeping the Studebaker running for so many years. You must really take great care of that car. |
Re: Transmission flush and fill question (jan)
In article <400741C2.6829BC70@doofis.FAKEcom>, Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom wrote:
> "Barry S." wrote: > > > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:13:41 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom > > Wilson) wrote: > > > > >In article <4c3ac3f0.0401142341.56440240@posting.google.com >, > > >kilroybass@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass) wrote: > > > > > >> I have a 94 Honda Accord, automatic. I called my Honda service > > >> mechanic and asked for an estimate on a transmission flush and fill. > > >> The response I got was that the dealer doesn't do flush and fill, but > > >> a DRAIN AND FILL. > > >> > > >> Basically, is there a difference between flush and fill vs drain and > > >> fill? > > >> > > >> I've never dealt with transmission fluid ever in the lifetime of my > > >> car, only regular oil changes. I thought it was high time to change > > >> the fluid since it's been quite long time driven. > > > > > >Yes, there is a difference. A local transmission shop advertises a flush > > >and fill. However, it's just a way to get you to go to their transmission > > >shop instead of the car dealership or some other transmission shop. > > > > > >A drain and fill works just as great as a flush and fill. > > > > Not exactly. A drain and fill only gets about 1/2 of the fluid out. > > Half of it is still sitting in the torque converter. (Which isn't > > easily drainable without removing.) A flush is a complete fluid > > transfer. It completely displaces old fluid with new fluid. They > > pump in new fluid until the fluid that comes out is clean, it can take > > 10 or 15 qts of transmission fluid.. > > > > Also, considering what flushes cost (usually about a $100+ service) -- > > I'd rather drain and fill twice a year. The end result is essentially > > the same. > > > > > > > You mean to say that Hondas do not have a converter drain plug? > > Another reason to keep driving my 1963 Studebaker... Eventually, your 1963 Studebaker will develop serious engine problems--that happens to ALL motors eventually--at that point in time--what sort of vehicle will you buy? A Honda might not be a perfect vehicle but it's one of the best vehicles presently for sale. I hope that you will at least consider a Honda if your Studebaker quits running. I should also congratulate you on keeping the Studebaker running for so many years. You must really take great care of that car. |
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