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Eddie G 06-09-2006 12:09 PM

transmission question
 
My wife's 1999 Accord has this situation. When accelerating at a
normal pace and the engine (automatic) shifts into 3rd gear and you
then push your foot down to pass (i.e. getting on the expressway) and
the engine down-shifts into second gear, there is a slight hesitation
with the engine still reving before the car takes off.

I went to a transmission place and they said there was "metal debris in
the system". He said they did not know what kind of metal but they
would have to take apart the transmission to look inside ($500 labor)
plus the cost of parts. Is there any truth to this or is he just going
to not do anything and say something like "well, the parts look
good...cash or credit?"

If there is something wrong will it eventually hurt the car and make it
(maybe) not operable, or can I just not floor it in this situation?

Thanks!!

Eddie G


'Curly Q. Links' 06-09-2006 12:44 PM

Re: transmission question
 
Eddie G wrote:
>
> My wife's 1999 Accord has this situation. When accelerating at a
> normal pace and the engine (automatic) shifts into 3rd gear and you
> then push your foot down to pass (i.e. getting on the expressway) and
> the engine down-shifts into second gear, there is a slight hesitation
> with the engine still reving before the car takes off.
>
> I went to a transmission place and they said there was "metal debris in
> the system". He said they did not know what kind of metal but they
> would have to take apart the transmission to look inside ($500 labor)
> plus the cost of parts. Is there any truth to this or is he just going
> to not do anything and say something like "well, the parts look
> good...cash or credit?"
>
> If there is something wrong will it eventually hurt the car and make it
> (maybe) not operable, or can I just not floor it in this situation?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Eddie G

------------------------------------------

Yeah, and they would have refilled it with Dexron and an additive when
they were through too. (putting non-Honda ATF in can be FATAL in the
long-term).

Go to Honda dealer, buy 7 quarts of Z1 ATF and a crush washer,
drain-n-fill it once (3.5 quarts, it's easy) and drive it a week. Then
do it again. Go to google, click on 'groups', and search for honda
drain-n-fill. Thorough instructions will be found.

P.S. Always mention the mileage, it's not Psychic Wednesday.

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 06-09-2006 12:44 PM

Re: transmission question
 
Eddie G wrote:
>
> My wife's 1999 Accord has this situation. When accelerating at a
> normal pace and the engine (automatic) shifts into 3rd gear and you
> then push your foot down to pass (i.e. getting on the expressway) and
> the engine down-shifts into second gear, there is a slight hesitation
> with the engine still reving before the car takes off.
>
> I went to a transmission place and they said there was "metal debris in
> the system". He said they did not know what kind of metal but they
> would have to take apart the transmission to look inside ($500 labor)
> plus the cost of parts. Is there any truth to this or is he just going
> to not do anything and say something like "well, the parts look
> good...cash or credit?"
>
> If there is something wrong will it eventually hurt the car and make it
> (maybe) not operable, or can I just not floor it in this situation?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Eddie G

------------------------------------------

Yeah, and they would have refilled it with Dexron and an additive when
they were through too. (putting non-Honda ATF in can be FATAL in the
long-term).

Go to Honda dealer, buy 7 quarts of Z1 ATF and a crush washer,
drain-n-fill it once (3.5 quarts, it's easy) and drive it a week. Then
do it again. Go to google, click on 'groups', and search for honda
drain-n-fill. Thorough instructions will be found.

P.S. Always mention the mileage, it's not Psychic Wednesday.

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 06-09-2006 12:44 PM

Re: transmission question
 
Eddie G wrote:
>
> My wife's 1999 Accord has this situation. When accelerating at a
> normal pace and the engine (automatic) shifts into 3rd gear and you
> then push your foot down to pass (i.e. getting on the expressway) and
> the engine down-shifts into second gear, there is a slight hesitation
> with the engine still reving before the car takes off.
>
> I went to a transmission place and they said there was "metal debris in
> the system". He said they did not know what kind of metal but they
> would have to take apart the transmission to look inside ($500 labor)
> plus the cost of parts. Is there any truth to this or is he just going
> to not do anything and say something like "well, the parts look
> good...cash or credit?"
>
> If there is something wrong will it eventually hurt the car and make it
> (maybe) not operable, or can I just not floor it in this situation?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Eddie G

------------------------------------------

Yeah, and they would have refilled it with Dexron and an additive when
they were through too. (putting non-Honda ATF in can be FATAL in the
long-term).

Go to Honda dealer, buy 7 quarts of Z1 ATF and a crush washer,
drain-n-fill it once (3.5 quarts, it's easy) and drive it a week. Then
do it again. Go to google, click on 'groups', and search for honda
drain-n-fill. Thorough instructions will be found.

P.S. Always mention the mileage, it's not Psychic Wednesday.

'Curly'

Eddie G 06-09-2006 12:53 PM

Re: transmission question
 

'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> Eddie G wrote:
> >
> > My wife's 1999 Accord has this situation. When accelerating at a
> > normal pace and the engine (automatic) shifts into 3rd gear and you
> > then push your foot down to pass (i.e. getting on the expressway) and
> > the engine down-shifts into second gear, there is a slight hesitation
> > with the engine still reving before the car takes off.
> >
> > I went to a transmission place and they said there was "metal debris in
> > the system". He said they did not know what kind of metal but they
> > would have to take apart the transmission to look inside ($500 labor)
> > plus the cost of parts. Is there any truth to this or is he just going
> > to not do anything and say something like "well, the parts look
> > good...cash or credit?"
> >
> > If there is something wrong will it eventually hurt the car and make it
> > (maybe) not operable, or can I just not floor it in this situation?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Eddie G

> ------------------------------------------
>
> Yeah, and they would have refilled it with Dexron and an additive when
> they were through too. (putting non-Honda ATF in can be FATAL in the
> long-term).
>
> Go to Honda dealer, buy 7 quarts of Z1 ATF and a crush washer,
> drain-n-fill it once (3.5 quarts, it's easy) and drive it a week. Then
> do it again. Go to google, click on 'groups', and search for honda
> drain-n-fill. Thorough instructions will be found.
>
> P.S. Always mention the mileage, it's not Psychic Wednesday.


Sorry...I thought it was Psychic Tuesday. 90k.

And thanks!!


Eddie G 06-09-2006 12:53 PM

Re: transmission question
 

'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> Eddie G wrote:
> >
> > My wife's 1999 Accord has this situation. When accelerating at a
> > normal pace and the engine (automatic) shifts into 3rd gear and you
> > then push your foot down to pass (i.e. getting on the expressway) and
> > the engine down-shifts into second gear, there is a slight hesitation
> > with the engine still reving before the car takes off.
> >
> > I went to a transmission place and they said there was "metal debris in
> > the system". He said they did not know what kind of metal but they
> > would have to take apart the transmission to look inside ($500 labor)
> > plus the cost of parts. Is there any truth to this or is he just going
> > to not do anything and say something like "well, the parts look
> > good...cash or credit?"
> >
> > If there is something wrong will it eventually hurt the car and make it
> > (maybe) not operable, or can I just not floor it in this situation?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Eddie G

> ------------------------------------------
>
> Yeah, and they would have refilled it with Dexron and an additive when
> they were through too. (putting non-Honda ATF in can be FATAL in the
> long-term).
>
> Go to Honda dealer, buy 7 quarts of Z1 ATF and a crush washer,
> drain-n-fill it once (3.5 quarts, it's easy) and drive it a week. Then
> do it again. Go to google, click on 'groups', and search for honda
> drain-n-fill. Thorough instructions will be found.
>
> P.S. Always mention the mileage, it's not Psychic Wednesday.


Sorry...I thought it was Psychic Tuesday. 90k.

And thanks!!


Eddie G 06-09-2006 12:53 PM

Re: transmission question
 

'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> Eddie G wrote:
> >
> > My wife's 1999 Accord has this situation. When accelerating at a
> > normal pace and the engine (automatic) shifts into 3rd gear and you
> > then push your foot down to pass (i.e. getting on the expressway) and
> > the engine down-shifts into second gear, there is a slight hesitation
> > with the engine still reving before the car takes off.
> >
> > I went to a transmission place and they said there was "metal debris in
> > the system". He said they did not know what kind of metal but they
> > would have to take apart the transmission to look inside ($500 labor)
> > plus the cost of parts. Is there any truth to this or is he just going
> > to not do anything and say something like "well, the parts look
> > good...cash or credit?"
> >
> > If there is something wrong will it eventually hurt the car and make it
> > (maybe) not operable, or can I just not floor it in this situation?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Eddie G

> ------------------------------------------
>
> Yeah, and they would have refilled it with Dexron and an additive when
> they were through too. (putting non-Honda ATF in can be FATAL in the
> long-term).
>
> Go to Honda dealer, buy 7 quarts of Z1 ATF and a crush washer,
> drain-n-fill it once (3.5 quarts, it's easy) and drive it a week. Then
> do it again. Go to google, click on 'groups', and search for honda
> drain-n-fill. Thorough instructions will be found.
>
> P.S. Always mention the mileage, it's not Psychic Wednesday.


Sorry...I thought it was Psychic Tuesday. 90k.

And thanks!!


Eddie G 06-09-2006 12:58 PM

Re: transmission question
 

'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> Eddie G wrote:
> >
> > My wife's 1999 Accord has this situation. When accelerating at a
> > normal pace and the engine (automatic) shifts into 3rd gear and you
> > then push your foot down to pass (i.e. getting on the expressway) and
> > the engine down-shifts into second gear, there is a slight hesitation
> > with the engine still reving before the car takes off.
> >
> > I went to a transmission place and they said there was "metal debris in
> > the system". He said they did not know what kind of metal but they
> > would have to take apart the transmission to look inside ($500 labor)
> > plus the cost of parts. Is there any truth to this or is he just going
> > to not do anything and say something like "well, the parts look
> > good...cash or credit?"
> >
> > If there is something wrong will it eventually hurt the car and make it
> > (maybe) not operable, or can I just not floor it in this situation?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Eddie G

> ------------------------------------------
>
> Yeah, and they would have refilled it with Dexron and an additive when
> they were through too. (putting non-Honda ATF in can be FATAL in the
> long-term).
>
> Go to Honda dealer, buy 7 quarts of Z1 ATF and a crush washer,
> drain-n-fill it once (3.5 quarts, it's easy) and drive it a week. Then
> do it again. Go to google, click on 'groups', and search for honda
> drain-n-fill. Thorough instructions will be found.


What is Z1 ATF? Is that trans fluid? I had it replaced 1-2 oil
changes ago at my regular service center. Don't know what brand they
used, though.


Eddie G 06-09-2006 12:58 PM

Re: transmission question
 

'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> Eddie G wrote:
> >
> > My wife's 1999 Accord has this situation. When accelerating at a
> > normal pace and the engine (automatic) shifts into 3rd gear and you
> > then push your foot down to pass (i.e. getting on the expressway) and
> > the engine down-shifts into second gear, there is a slight hesitation
> > with the engine still reving before the car takes off.
> >
> > I went to a transmission place and they said there was "metal debris in
> > the system". He said they did not know what kind of metal but they
> > would have to take apart the transmission to look inside ($500 labor)
> > plus the cost of parts. Is there any truth to this or is he just going
> > to not do anything and say something like "well, the parts look
> > good...cash or credit?"
> >
> > If there is something wrong will it eventually hurt the car and make it
> > (maybe) not operable, or can I just not floor it in this situation?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Eddie G

> ------------------------------------------
>
> Yeah, and they would have refilled it with Dexron and an additive when
> they were through too. (putting non-Honda ATF in can be FATAL in the
> long-term).
>
> Go to Honda dealer, buy 7 quarts of Z1 ATF and a crush washer,
> drain-n-fill it once (3.5 quarts, it's easy) and drive it a week. Then
> do it again. Go to google, click on 'groups', and search for honda
> drain-n-fill. Thorough instructions will be found.


What is Z1 ATF? Is that trans fluid? I had it replaced 1-2 oil
changes ago at my regular service center. Don't know what brand they
used, though.


Eddie G 06-09-2006 12:58 PM

Re: transmission question
 

'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> Eddie G wrote:
> >
> > My wife's 1999 Accord has this situation. When accelerating at a
> > normal pace and the engine (automatic) shifts into 3rd gear and you
> > then push your foot down to pass (i.e. getting on the expressway) and
> > the engine down-shifts into second gear, there is a slight hesitation
> > with the engine still reving before the car takes off.
> >
> > I went to a transmission place and they said there was "metal debris in
> > the system". He said they did not know what kind of metal but they
> > would have to take apart the transmission to look inside ($500 labor)
> > plus the cost of parts. Is there any truth to this or is he just going
> > to not do anything and say something like "well, the parts look
> > good...cash or credit?"
> >
> > If there is something wrong will it eventually hurt the car and make it
> > (maybe) not operable, or can I just not floor it in this situation?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Eddie G

> ------------------------------------------
>
> Yeah, and they would have refilled it with Dexron and an additive when
> they were through too. (putting non-Honda ATF in can be FATAL in the
> long-term).
>
> Go to Honda dealer, buy 7 quarts of Z1 ATF and a crush washer,
> drain-n-fill it once (3.5 quarts, it's easy) and drive it a week. Then
> do it again. Go to google, click on 'groups', and search for honda
> drain-n-fill. Thorough instructions will be found.


What is Z1 ATF? Is that trans fluid? I had it replaced 1-2 oil
changes ago at my regular service center. Don't know what brand they
used, though.


'Curly Q. Links' 06-09-2006 06:06 PM

Re: transmission question
 
Eddie G wrote:
> What is Z1 ATF? Is that trans fluid? I had it replaced 1-2 oil
> changes ago at my regular service center. Don't know what brand they
> used, though.


-----------------------------------------------

As the Honda slogan says: "Don't let strangers under your hood"

Z1 is the Honda Automatic Tranny Fluid. There are no substitutes. You
will have to do a drain-n-fill three times now, if you want to stop your
tranny from shredding itself. Do not power-flush. Search this newsgroup
for more info.

As for the shifting / hunting, a Honda tranny IS different, and may
CLUNK into gear at low speed, especially at a YIELD sign.

Here's an AMSOIL discussion that will open your eyes about how special
the additives in Honda Z1 ATF are . . . . .

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...ghlight=amsoil

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 06-09-2006 06:06 PM

Re: transmission question
 
Eddie G wrote:
> What is Z1 ATF? Is that trans fluid? I had it replaced 1-2 oil
> changes ago at my regular service center. Don't know what brand they
> used, though.


-----------------------------------------------

As the Honda slogan says: "Don't let strangers under your hood"

Z1 is the Honda Automatic Tranny Fluid. There are no substitutes. You
will have to do a drain-n-fill three times now, if you want to stop your
tranny from shredding itself. Do not power-flush. Search this newsgroup
for more info.

As for the shifting / hunting, a Honda tranny IS different, and may
CLUNK into gear at low speed, especially at a YIELD sign.

Here's an AMSOIL discussion that will open your eyes about how special
the additives in Honda Z1 ATF are . . . . .

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...ghlight=amsoil

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 06-09-2006 06:06 PM

Re: transmission question
 
Eddie G wrote:
> What is Z1 ATF? Is that trans fluid? I had it replaced 1-2 oil
> changes ago at my regular service center. Don't know what brand they
> used, though.


-----------------------------------------------

As the Honda slogan says: "Don't let strangers under your hood"

Z1 is the Honda Automatic Tranny Fluid. There are no substitutes. You
will have to do a drain-n-fill three times now, if you want to stop your
tranny from shredding itself. Do not power-flush. Search this newsgroup
for more info.

As for the shifting / hunting, a Honda tranny IS different, and may
CLUNK into gear at low speed, especially at a YIELD sign.

Here's an AMSOIL discussion that will open your eyes about how special
the additives in Honda Z1 ATF are . . . . .

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...ghlight=amsoil

'Curly'

John Horner 06-10-2006 10:58 AM

Re: transmission question
 
Eddie G wrote:

> What is Z1 ATF? Is that trans fluid? I had it replaced 1-2 oil
> changes ago at my regular service center. Don't know what brand they
> used, though.
>


Z1 is the correct Honda ATF. Who knows what your "regular service
center" used. Unless they were a Honda specialist, they probably put in
the wrong stuff!

John

John Horner 06-10-2006 10:58 AM

Re: transmission question
 
Eddie G wrote:

> What is Z1 ATF? Is that trans fluid? I had it replaced 1-2 oil
> changes ago at my regular service center. Don't know what brand they
> used, though.
>


Z1 is the correct Honda ATF. Who knows what your "regular service
center" used. Unless they were a Honda specialist, they probably put in
the wrong stuff!

John


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