santino

I am in Massachusetts, where the emission laws are damn tough (okay...not as
tough as CA....but tough enough!!).

The car has 74K miles and it passed everything except the HC test (Higher
hydrocarbon emissions - approx 25% higher than normal).

The mechanic at the gas station who did the yearly inspection test told me
that it needed a new air filter, new plugs and a PCV valve. I bought these
parts and changed them over (even though the air filter & plugs were fairly
new !!), excepting the PCV valve, as I don't have a deep socket 9/16" wrench
(I'll get a socket for it tomorrow and try). I tried getting the PCV valve
out with a 8" spanner wrench, but couldn't get the damn valve to come off
(is it always this tight ?? anyone change one of these out ??).

In any case, I am going to get a deep socket wrench and a longer driver and
get the damn PCV valve out of there.

I read in a Chilton Honda Civic service manual that says a mal-functioning
PCV valve will make higher HC emissions.

Right now I have "R" sticker on the inspection sticker area. The mechanic
told me to change these things out (air filter, PCV valve & plugs) and come
back and it should pass. Anyone think of anything else?? The inspection
fee is $ 29 bucks in Mass, but on a R sticker is free for a first
re-inspection. So, I want to be sure there is nothing more than this !!

Thanks in advance for your response.

Santino.

Bill Kapaun

In article <aJS4b.17046$NC2.12094@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>, "santino"
<dontbother_me_spammers@junk.com> wrote:

>I am in Massachusetts, where the emission laws are damn tough (okay...not as
>tough as CA....but tough enough!!).
>
>The car has 74K miles and it passed everything except the HC test (Higher
>hydrocarbon emissions - approx 25% higher than normal).
>
>The mechanic at the gas station who did the yearly inspection test told me
>that it needed a new air filter, new plugs and a PCV valve. I bought these
>parts and changed them over (even though the air filter & plugs were fairly
>new !!), excepting the PCV valve, as I don't have a deep socket 9/16" wrench
>(I'll get a socket for it tomorrow and try). I tried getting the PCV valve
>out with a 8" spanner wrench, but couldn't get the damn valve to come off
>(is it always this tight ?? anyone change one of these out ??).
>
>In any case, I am going to get a deep socket wrench and a longer driver and
>get the damn PCV valve out of there.
>
>I read in a Chilton Honda Civic service manual that says a mal-functioning
>PCV valve will make higher HC emissions.
>
>Right now I have "R" sticker on the inspection sticker area. The mechanic
>told me to change these things out (air filter, PCV valve & plugs) and come
>back and it should pass. Anyone think of anything else?? The inspection
>fee is $ 29 bucks in Mass, but on a R sticker is free for a first
>re-inspection. So, I want to be sure there is nothing more than this !!
>
>Thanks in advance for your response.
>
>Santino.

Give it a good hard highway drive to heat up the oil and "boil off" any
moisture etc. If it's getting due for an oil change go ahead and change it
first.

Bill Kapaun

In article <aJS4b.17046$NC2.12094@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>, "santino"
<dontbother_me_spammers@junk.com> wrote:

>I am in Massachusetts, where the emission laws are damn tough (okay...not as
>tough as CA....but tough enough!!).
>
>The car has 74K miles and it passed everything except the HC test (Higher
>hydrocarbon emissions - approx 25% higher than normal).
>
>The mechanic at the gas station who did the yearly inspection test told me
>that it needed a new air filter, new plugs and a PCV valve. I bought these
>parts and changed them over (even though the air filter & plugs were fairly
>new !!), excepting the PCV valve, as I don't have a deep socket 9/16" wrench
>(I'll get a socket for it tomorrow and try). I tried getting the PCV valve
>out with a 8" spanner wrench, but couldn't get the damn valve to come off
>(is it always this tight ?? anyone change one of these out ??).
>
>In any case, I am going to get a deep socket wrench and a longer driver and
>get the damn PCV valve out of there.
>
>I read in a Chilton Honda Civic service manual that says a mal-functioning
>PCV valve will make higher HC emissions.
>
>Right now I have "R" sticker on the inspection sticker area. The mechanic
>told me to change these things out (air filter, PCV valve & plugs) and come
>back and it should pass. Anyone think of anything else?? The inspection
>fee is $ 29 bucks in Mass, but on a R sticker is free for a first
>re-inspection. So, I want to be sure there is nothing more than this !!
>
>Thanks in advance for your response.
>
>Santino.

Give it a good hard highway drive to heat up the oil and "boil off" any
moisture etc. If it's getting due for an oil change go ahead and change it
first.

Joseph Wind

You might need a new a Catalytic converter. I had to replace mine after
134k miles. All the years before it passed easily under California
emissions. Before replacing the CAT it read 600 over the max CO, after the
new CAT was installed it was below the average.


"santino" <dontbother_me_spammers@junk.com> wrote in message
news:aJS4b.17046$NC2.12094@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> I am in Massachusetts, where the emission laws are damn tough (okay...not
as
> tough as CA....but tough enough!!).
>
> The car has 74K miles and it passed everything except the HC test (Higher
> hydrocarbon emissions - approx 25% higher than normal).
>
> The mechanic at the gas station who did the yearly inspection test told me
> that it needed a new air filter, new plugs and a PCV valve. I bought
these
> parts and changed them over (even though the air filter & plugs were
fairly
> new !!), excepting the PCV valve, as I don't have a deep socket 9/16"
wrench
> (I'll get a socket for it tomorrow and try). I tried getting the PCV
valve
> out with a 8" spanner wrench, but couldn't get the damn valve to come off
> (is it always this tight ?? anyone change one of these out ??).
>
> In any case, I am going to get a deep socket wrench and a longer driver
and
> get the damn PCV valve out of there.
>
> I read in a Chilton Honda Civic service manual that says a mal-functioning
> PCV valve will make higher HC emissions.
>
> Right now I have "R" sticker on the inspection sticker area. The mechanic
> told me to change these things out (air filter, PCV valve & plugs) and
come
> back and it should pass. Anyone think of anything else?? The inspection
> fee is $ 29 bucks in Mass, but on a R sticker is free for a first
> re-inspection. So, I want to be sure there is nothing more than this !!
>
> Thanks in advance for your response.
>
> Santino.
>
>

Joseph Wind

You might need a new a Catalytic converter. I had to replace mine after
134k miles. All the years before it passed easily under California
emissions. Before replacing the CAT it read 600 over the max CO, after the
new CAT was installed it was below the average.


"santino" <dontbother_me_spammers@junk.com> wrote in message
news:aJS4b.17046$NC2.12094@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> I am in Massachusetts, where the emission laws are damn tough (okay...not
as
> tough as CA....but tough enough!!).
>
> The car has 74K miles and it passed everything except the HC test (Higher
> hydrocarbon emissions - approx 25% higher than normal).
>
> The mechanic at the gas station who did the yearly inspection test told me
> that it needed a new air filter, new plugs and a PCV valve. I bought
these
> parts and changed them over (even though the air filter & plugs were
fairly
> new !!), excepting the PCV valve, as I don't have a deep socket 9/16"
wrench
> (I'll get a socket for it tomorrow and try). I tried getting the PCV
valve
> out with a 8" spanner wrench, but couldn't get the damn valve to come off
> (is it always this tight ?? anyone change one of these out ??).
>
> In any case, I am going to get a deep socket wrench and a longer driver
and
> get the damn PCV valve out of there.
>
> I read in a Chilton Honda Civic service manual that says a mal-functioning
> PCV valve will make higher HC emissions.
>
> Right now I have "R" sticker on the inspection sticker area. The mechanic
> told me to change these things out (air filter, PCV valve & plugs) and
come
> back and it should pass. Anyone think of anything else?? The inspection
> fee is $ 29 bucks in Mass, but on a R sticker is free for a first
> re-inspection. So, I want to be sure there is nothing more than this !!
>
> Thanks in advance for your response.
>
> Santino.
>
>

Wilfred Smulders

"Joseph Wind" <jpg@gif.com> wrote in message
news:bj294i$517$1@sun-news.laserlink.net...
> You might need a new a Catalytic converter. I had to replace mine after
> 134k miles. All the years before it passed easily under California
> emissions. Before replacing the CAT it read 600 over the max CO, after
the
> new CAT was installed it was below the average.
>
>
> "santino" <dontbother_me_spammers@junk.com> wrote in message
> news:aJS4b.17046$NC2.12094@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > I am in Massachusetts, where the emission laws are damn tough
(okay...not
> as
> > tough as CA....but tough enough!!).
> >
> > The car has 74K miles and it passed everything except the HC test
(Higher
> > hydrocarbon emissions - approx 25% higher than normal).
> >
> > The mechanic at the gas station who did the yearly inspection test told
me
> > that it needed a new air filter, new plugs and a PCV valve. I bought
> these
> > parts and changed them over (even though the air filter & plugs were
> fairly
> > new !!), excepting the PCV valve, as I don't have a deep socket 9/16"
> wrench
> > (I'll get a socket for it tomorrow and try). I tried getting the PCV
> valve
> > out with a 8" spanner wrench, but couldn't get the damn valve to come
off
> > (is it always this tight ?? anyone change one of these out ??).
> >
> > In any case, I am going to get a deep socket wrench and a longer driver
> and
> > get the damn PCV valve out of there.
> >
> > I read in a Chilton Honda Civic service manual that says a
mal-functioning
> > PCV valve will make higher HC emissions.
> >
> > Right now I have "R" sticker on the inspection sticker area. The
mechanic
> > told me to change these things out (air filter, PCV valve & plugs) and
> come
> > back and it should pass. Anyone think of anything else?? The
inspection
> > fee is $ 29 bucks in Mass, but on a R sticker is free for a first
> > re-inspection. So, I want to be sure there is nothing more than this !!
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your response.
> >
> > Santino.
> >

A new cat. won't change the HC as far as I know, cat is probably still oke,
since all the other reading were oke.

Wilfred

Wilfred Smulders

"Joseph Wind" <jpg@gif.com> wrote in message
news:bj294i$517$1@sun-news.laserlink.net...
> You might need a new a Catalytic converter. I had to replace mine after
> 134k miles. All the years before it passed easily under California
> emissions. Before replacing the CAT it read 600 over the max CO, after
the
> new CAT was installed it was below the average.
>
>
> "santino" <dontbother_me_spammers@junk.com> wrote in message
> news:aJS4b.17046$NC2.12094@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > I am in Massachusetts, where the emission laws are damn tough
(okay...not
> as
> > tough as CA....but tough enough!!).
> >
> > The car has 74K miles and it passed everything except the HC test
(Higher
> > hydrocarbon emissions - approx 25% higher than normal).
> >
> > The mechanic at the gas station who did the yearly inspection test told
me
> > that it needed a new air filter, new plugs and a PCV valve. I bought
> these
> > parts and changed them over (even though the air filter & plugs were
> fairly
> > new !!), excepting the PCV valve, as I don't have a deep socket 9/16"
> wrench
> > (I'll get a socket for it tomorrow and try). I tried getting the PCV
> valve
> > out with a 8" spanner wrench, but couldn't get the damn valve to come
off
> > (is it always this tight ?? anyone change one of these out ??).
> >
> > In any case, I am going to get a deep socket wrench and a longer driver
> and
> > get the damn PCV valve out of there.
> >
> > I read in a Chilton Honda Civic service manual that says a
mal-functioning
> > PCV valve will make higher HC emissions.
> >
> > Right now I have "R" sticker on the inspection sticker area. The
mechanic
> > told me to change these things out (air filter, PCV valve & plugs) and
> come
> > back and it should pass. Anyone think of anything else?? The
inspection
> > fee is $ 29 bucks in Mass, but on a R sticker is free for a first
> > re-inspection. So, I want to be sure there is nothing more than this !!
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your response.
> >
> > Santino.
> >

A new cat. won't change the HC as far as I know, cat is probably still oke,
since all the other reading were oke.

Wilfred

santino

Joseph, Wilfred & Bill:

Thanks for your response. I think Bill may be right. Joseph my CO reading
is normal.

Here is the summary of Emissions:

HC GPM Reading 1.80 Limit 1.20 Result : FAIL

CO GPM Reading 14.58 Limit 20.00 Result : PASS

NOx GPM Reading 0.87 Limit 2.50 Result : PASS

I just finished changing the PCV valve ; there was a lot of carbon deposit,
was black going into it.

I had the oil changed just 1,000 miles ago. I could change it if you think
it will make a difference...only $ 10 bucks.

Please, you guys, if you think of anything else, please let me know. This
Civic runs great otherwise, I can't afford to part with it. It is a good
poor man's car (which is what I am...we eat hand to mouth !!). They are
really difficult here in Mass with inspections. I have one more chance
before I take it in for a final inspection. I will try to drive an hour
before the inspection, hope that cleans it up ; but if there is anything
else, I'd appreciate it if you let me know.

Thanks in advance for your help.

santino

"Wilfred Smulders" <wsmulders@hetnet.nl> wrote in message
news:bj2v6c$ea0qk$1@ID-194964.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "Joseph Wind" <jpg@gif.com> wrote in message
> news:bj294i$517$1@sun-news.laserlink.net...
> > You might need a new a Catalytic converter. I had to replace mine after
> > 134k miles. All the years before it passed easily under California
> > emissions. Before replacing the CAT it read 600 over the max CO, after
> the
> > new CAT was installed it was below the average.
> >
> >
> > "santino" <dontbother_me_spammers@junk.com> wrote in message
> > news:aJS4b.17046$NC2.12094@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > > I am in Massachusetts, where the emission laws are damn tough
> (okay...not
> > as
> > > tough as CA....but tough enough!!).
> > >
> > > The car has 74K miles and it passed everything except the HC test
> (Higher
> > > hydrocarbon emissions - approx 25% higher than normal).
> > >
> > > The mechanic at the gas station who did the yearly inspection test
told
> me
> > > that it needed a new air filter, new plugs and a PCV valve. I bought
> > these
> > > parts and changed them over (even though the air filter & plugs were
> > fairly
> > > new !!), excepting the PCV valve, as I don't have a deep socket 9/16"
> > wrench
> > > (I'll get a socket for it tomorrow and try). I tried getting the PCV
> > valve
> > > out with a 8" spanner wrench, but couldn't get the damn valve to come
> off
> > > (is it always this tight ?? anyone change one of these out ??).
> > >
> > > In any case, I am going to get a deep socket wrench and a longer
driver
> > and
> > > get the damn PCV valve out of there.
> > >
> > > I read in a Chilton Honda Civic service manual that says a
> mal-functioning
> > > PCV valve will make higher HC emissions.
> > >
> > > Right now I have "R" sticker on the inspection sticker area. The
> mechanic
> > > told me to change these things out (air filter, PCV valve & plugs) and
> > come
> > > back and it should pass. Anyone think of anything else?? The
> inspection
> > > fee is $ 29 bucks in Mass, but on a R sticker is free for a first
> > > re-inspection. So, I want to be sure there is nothing more than this
!!
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for your response.
> > >
> > > Santino.
> > >
>
> A new cat. won't change the HC as far as I know, cat is probably still
oke,
> since all the other reading were oke.
>
> Wilfred
>
>
>

santino

Joseph, Wilfred & Bill:

Thanks for your response. I think Bill may be right. Joseph my CO reading
is normal.

Here is the summary of Emissions:

HC GPM Reading 1.80 Limit 1.20 Result : FAIL

CO GPM Reading 14.58 Limit 20.00 Result : PASS

NOx GPM Reading 0.87 Limit 2.50 Result : PASS

I just finished changing the PCV valve ; there was a lot of carbon deposit,
was black going into it.

I had the oil changed just 1,000 miles ago. I could change it if you think
it will make a difference...only $ 10 bucks.

Please, you guys, if you think of anything else, please let me know. This
Civic runs great otherwise, I can't afford to part with it. It is a good
poor man's car (which is what I am...we eat hand to mouth !!). They are
really difficult here in Mass with inspections. I have one more chance
before I take it in for a final inspection. I will try to drive an hour
before the inspection, hope that cleans it up ; but if there is anything
else, I'd appreciate it if you let me know.

Thanks in advance for your help.

santino

"Wilfred Smulders" <wsmulders@hetnet.nl> wrote in message
news:bj2v6c$ea0qk$1@ID-194964.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "Joseph Wind" <jpg@gif.com> wrote in message
> news:bj294i$517$1@sun-news.laserlink.net...
> > You might need a new a Catalytic converter. I had to replace mine after
> > 134k miles. All the years before it passed easily under California
> > emissions. Before replacing the CAT it read 600 over the max CO, after
> the
> > new CAT was installed it was below the average.
> >
> >
> > "santino" <dontbother_me_spammers@junk.com> wrote in message
> > news:aJS4b.17046$NC2.12094@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > > I am in Massachusetts, where the emission laws are damn tough
> (okay...not
> > as
> > > tough as CA....but tough enough!!).
> > >
> > > The car has 74K miles and it passed everything except the HC test
> (Higher
> > > hydrocarbon emissions - approx 25% higher than normal).
> > >
> > > The mechanic at the gas station who did the yearly inspection test
told
> me
> > > that it needed a new air filter, new plugs and a PCV valve. I bought
> > these
> > > parts and changed them over (even though the air filter & plugs were
> > fairly
> > > new !!), excepting the PCV valve, as I don't have a deep socket 9/16"
> > wrench
> > > (I'll get a socket for it tomorrow and try). I tried getting the PCV
> > valve
> > > out with a 8" spanner wrench, but couldn't get the damn valve to come
> off
> > > (is it always this tight ?? anyone change one of these out ??).
> > >
> > > In any case, I am going to get a deep socket wrench and a longer
driver
> > and
> > > get the damn PCV valve out of there.
> > >
> > > I read in a Chilton Honda Civic service manual that says a
> mal-functioning
> > > PCV valve will make higher HC emissions.
> > >
> > > Right now I have "R" sticker on the inspection sticker area. The
> mechanic
> > > told me to change these things out (air filter, PCV valve & plugs) and
> > come
> > > back and it should pass. Anyone think of anything else?? The
> inspection
> > > fee is $ 29 bucks in Mass, but on a R sticker is free for a first
> > > re-inspection. So, I want to be sure there is nothing more than this
!!
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for your response.
> > >
> > > Santino.
> > >
>
> A new cat. won't change the HC as far as I know, cat is probably still
oke,
> since all the other reading were oke.
>
> Wilfred
>
>
>