Bill B. Johnson

In article <PCEeb.7836$ab5.378869@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Paul Bucens"
<no_soam@linux.ca> wrote:

> Hi, wondering if anyone can tell me what kind of a setup I need to have to
> diagnose engine trouble codes by hooking up to the computer. I have an older
> laptop I'd want to hook up to a '91 Honda Accord and be able to read stored
> trouble codes and do a full diag. Anyone have any ideas on the kind of setup
> I can put on the laptop? What kind of cables would I need?

Go to almost any auto parts store such as Kragens or NAPA.
Ask them to show you what they have in stock. Make sure it says on it that
it will work in a 91 Honda Accord.

Jafir Elkurd

That's actually 1996 for most cars on the OBD-II compliance (in North
America). The first Honda with OBD-II is the 1995 Accord V6. (on the 95-97
Hondas with OBD-II you can still flash codes the same as the 94-95, but
Honda doesn't make any statement about them being the same..)


"Steve Beaman" <bambamsupergas@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:m5konv84510376jp4nv0o9k347lg2qf87p@4ax.com...
> The Accountants nor Honda have anything to do with the change in the
> way the codes are read. This is the goverment at work. All cars
> manufactured after 1993 have to be OBD1 compliant and 1998 OBD2
> compliant. This means that all cars can be tested by a standard OBD
> tester. These are available at any parts house or tool truck.
>
>
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 11:57:30 -0400, w_tom <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Accountants must be designing the new Accords. Those self
> >diagnostics have been removed. Now a computer connection is
> >required. Just another reason why I better liked last decad's
> >Honda designs. Those who design the current Hondas don't seem
> >to have real world experience - such as not providing flash
> >codes for error diagnosis.
> >
> >Jafir Elkurd wrote:
> >> The 91 accord has self diagnosis, the only thing you need is a
> >> paper clip.
>

Jafir Elkurd

That's actually 1996 for most cars on the OBD-II compliance (in North
America). The first Honda with OBD-II is the 1995 Accord V6. (on the 95-97
Hondas with OBD-II you can still flash codes the same as the 94-95, but
Honda doesn't make any statement about them being the same..)


"Steve Beaman" <bambamsupergas@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:m5konv84510376jp4nv0o9k347lg2qf87p@4ax.com...
> The Accountants nor Honda have anything to do with the change in the
> way the codes are read. This is the goverment at work. All cars
> manufactured after 1993 have to be OBD1 compliant and 1998 OBD2
> compliant. This means that all cars can be tested by a standard OBD
> tester. These are available at any parts house or tool truck.
>
>
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 11:57:30 -0400, w_tom <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Accountants must be designing the new Accords. Those self
> >diagnostics have been removed. Now a computer connection is
> >required. Just another reason why I better liked last decad's
> >Honda designs. Those who design the current Hondas don't seem
> >to have real world experience - such as not providing flash
> >codes for error diagnosis.
> >
> >Jafir Elkurd wrote:
> >> The 91 accord has self diagnosis, the only thing you need is a
> >> paper clip.
>

Jafir Elkurd

That's actually 1996 for most cars on the OBD-II compliance (in North
America). The first Honda with OBD-II is the 1995 Accord V6. (on the 95-97
Hondas with OBD-II you can still flash codes the same as the 94-95, but
Honda doesn't make any statement about them being the same..)


"Steve Beaman" <bambamsupergas@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:m5konv84510376jp4nv0o9k347lg2qf87p@4ax.com...
> The Accountants nor Honda have anything to do with the change in the
> way the codes are read. This is the goverment at work. All cars
> manufactured after 1993 have to be OBD1 compliant and 1998 OBD2
> compliant. This means that all cars can be tested by a standard OBD
> tester. These are available at any parts house or tool truck.
>
>
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 11:57:30 -0400, w_tom <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Accountants must be designing the new Accords. Those self
> >diagnostics have been removed. Now a computer connection is
> >required. Just another reason why I better liked last decad's
> >Honda designs. Those who design the current Hondas don't seem
> >to have real world experience - such as not providing flash
> >codes for error diagnosis.
> >
> >Jafir Elkurd wrote:
> >> The 91 accord has self diagnosis, the only thing you need is a
> >> paper clip.
>

w_tom

Nothing about OBD mandates that flash codes must be
eliminated. OBD just means the computer must output error
codes also to another port. No reason for error codes not to
be flashed out. Honda once made sure that all doors had side
guard protection - another thing lost as accountant mentality
begins to sneak into Honda designs. Once it was Honda - We
make it simple. Now the simple part - flash codes - has been
eliminated.

Steve Beaman wrote:
>
> The Accountants nor Honda have anything to do with the change in the
> way the codes are read. This is the goverment at work. All cars
> manufactured after 1993 have to be OBD1 compliant and 1998 OBD2
> compliant. This means that all cars can be tested by a standard OBD
> tester. These are available at any parts house or tool truck.

w_tom

Nothing about OBD mandates that flash codes must be
eliminated. OBD just means the computer must output error
codes also to another port. No reason for error codes not to
be flashed out. Honda once made sure that all doors had side
guard protection - another thing lost as accountant mentality
begins to sneak into Honda designs. Once it was Honda - We
make it simple. Now the simple part - flash codes - has been
eliminated.

Steve Beaman wrote:
>
> The Accountants nor Honda have anything to do with the change in the
> way the codes are read. This is the goverment at work. All cars
> manufactured after 1993 have to be OBD1 compliant and 1998 OBD2
> compliant. This means that all cars can be tested by a standard OBD
> tester. These are available at any parts house or tool truck.

w_tom

Nothing about OBD mandates that flash codes must be
eliminated. OBD just means the computer must output error
codes also to another port. No reason for error codes not to
be flashed out. Honda once made sure that all doors had side
guard protection - another thing lost as accountant mentality
begins to sneak into Honda designs. Once it was Honda - We
make it simple. Now the simple part - flash codes - has been
eliminated.

Steve Beaman wrote:
>
> The Accountants nor Honda have anything to do with the change in the
> way the codes are read. This is the goverment at work. All cars
> manufactured after 1993 have to be OBD1 compliant and 1998 OBD2
> compliant. This means that all cars can be tested by a standard OBD
> tester. These are available at any parts house or tool truck.