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GasSaver 04-24-2009 12:32 PM

Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 

Michelle claims her 1-ton hybrid is strong than my 2-ton car. Now we know
who tells the truth. Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first,
you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.

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Mike Rosenberg 04-24-2009 04:33 PM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 
GasSaver <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:

> Michelle claims her 1-ton hybrid is strong than my 2-ton car.


Michelle doesn't own a one-ton hybrid. You're off my a full 50%, and if
you're that wrong on something as simple as the weight of a car, why
should we believe any damn thing you tell us?

> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...prius&aq=f&oq=


Did you bother to even read any of these? Some are cases where there
were fatalities in other vehicles but not the Prius. One of these
involved a Jeep Laredo and a Honda Pilot SUV - the only reason your
search turned it up is that Prius is mentioned in another unrelated item
on the same page. One says a Prius driver was injured because he wasn't
wearing his seat belt. One mentions a fatality due an earthquake,
another mentions a fatality from a plane crash.

Keep on demonstrating you're an idiot; I'm sure that's good publicity
for your business.

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Tegger 04-24-2009 05:13 PM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 
"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in
news:4vGdnYMZXZwGdGzUnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@posted.toast net:

>
> Michelle claims her 1-ton hybrid is strong than my 2-ton car. Now we
> know who tells the truth. Until you're involved with a FATAL accident
> first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...prius&aq=f&oq=
>
>
>



<snip>

Why single out the Prius? The market is full of cars in the Prius/Yaris's
size class.

And are you telling me your 4,000 pound car gets 150mpg?


--
Tegger


Gordon McGrew 04-24-2009 07:58 PM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:33:51 -0400, mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com
(Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

>GasSaver <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>
>> Michelle claims her 1-ton hybrid is strong than my 2-ton car.

>
>Michelle doesn't own a one-ton hybrid. You're off my a full 50%, and if
>you're that wrong on something as simple as the weight of a car, why
>should we believe any damn thing you tell us?
>
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...prius&aq=f&oq=

>
>Did you bother to even read any of these? Some are cases where there
>were fatalities in other vehicles but not the Prius. One of these
>involved a Jeep Laredo and a Honda Pilot SUV - the only reason your
>search turned it up is that Prius is mentioned in another unrelated item
>on the same page. One says a Prius driver was injured because he wasn't
>wearing his seat belt. One mentions a fatality due an earthquake,
>another mentions a fatality from a plane crash.
>
>Keep on demonstrating you're an idiot; I'm sure that's good publicity
>for your business.


He's just doing what he's good at.

Michelle Steiner 04-24-2009 09:20 PM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 
In article <4vGdnYMZXZwGdGzUnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@posted.toastnet> ,
"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:

> Michelle claims her 1-ton hybrid is strong than my 2-ton car.


I never said any such thing; please stop lying about me.

Too bad you didn't read the articles linked in that blog you copied; by
not bothering to read them, you merely established even further that you
don't know what you're talking about. But then again, neither did the
person who posted that entry in the first place.

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Mike Rosenberg 04-24-2009 11:28 PM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:

> >Keep on demonstrating you're an idiot; I'm sure that's good publicity
> >for your business.

>
> He's just doing what he's good at.


Well, if his goal is to become a laughing stock around the world, he's
succeeding admirably. If his goal is trying to get business, well,
perhaps he should try a different strategy.

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Mike Rosenberg 04-24-2009 11:28 PM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <4vGdnYMZXZwGdGzUnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@posted.toastnet> ,
> "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>
> > Michelle claims her 1-ton hybrid is strong than my 2-ton car.

>
> I never said any such thing; please stop lying about me.


I wonder what car he thinks you have anyway. The Prius is close to 3000
lbs.

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Michelle Steiner 04-25-2009 12:37 AM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 
In article <1iypaj3.psfys0kk14w0N%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult. com>,
mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> > > Michelle claims her 1-ton hybrid is strong than my 2-ton car.

> >
> > I never said any such thing; please stop lying about me.

>
> I wonder what car he thinks you have anyway. The Prius is close to
> 3000 lbs.


What makes you think that he thinks?

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Mike Rosenberg 04-25-2009 09:31 AM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > I wonder what car he thinks you have anyway. The Prius is close to
> > 3000 lbs.

>
> What makes you think that he thinks?


What makes you think I think he thinks? <g> Let's change that to: "I
wonder what car he believes you have anyway."

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Tomes 04-27-2009 11:39 PM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 

"Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
news:Xns9BF7AF2AE4075tegger@208.90.168.18...
> "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in
> news:4vGdnYMZXZwGdGzUnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@posted.toast net:
>
>>
>> Michelle claims her 1-ton hybrid is strong than my 2-ton car. Now we
>> know who tells the truth. Until you're involved with a FATAL accident
>> first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...prius&aq=f&oq=
>>

> <snip>
>
> Why single out the Prius? The market is full of cars in the Prius/Yaris's
> size class.
>
> And are you telling me your 4,000 pound car gets 150mpg?
>

The Prius is not in the class of the Yaris. It is between a Corolla and a
Camry.


Tegger 04-28-2009 06:49 AM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 
"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in
news:gt5tuv$t4m$1@news.eternal-september.org:

>
> "Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
> news:Xns9BF7AF2AE4075tegger@208.90.168.18...
>> "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in
>> news:4vGdnYMZXZwGdGzUnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@posted.toast net:
>>
>>>
>>> Michelle claims her 1-ton hybrid is strong than my 2-ton car. Now
>>> we know who tells the truth. Until you're involved with a FATAL
>>> accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...prius&aq=f&oq=
>>>

>> <snip>
>>
>> Why single out the Prius? The market is full of cars in the
>> Prius/Yaris's size class.
>>
>> And are you telling me your 4,000 pound car gets 150mpg?
>>

> The Prius is not in the class of the Yaris. It is between a Corolla
> and a Camry.
>
>



It's based on the Yaris platform.


--
Tegger


Elmo P. Shagnasty 04-28-2009 07:16 AM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 
In article <Xns9BFB456086284tegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:

> > The Prius is not in the class of the Yaris. It is between a Corolla
> > and a Camry.
> >
> >

>
>
> It's based on the Yaris platform.


maybe, but man oh man, is the Prius big inside.

Not only that, it turns on a dime and gives eight cents' change.

Toyota done good with the Prius.

For the record, I drove in my Prius last week over to my Honda dealer,
where I drove an Insight. Honda shamelessly copied the entire Prius
concept, right down to the CRX-like backlight and the electric-operated
hatch release.

However, the Insight was noticeably not as comfortable as the Prius. It
was lower down and that much harder to ingress/egress (Honda loves low
cars, and that will bite them in the ass as the bulk of the baby boomers
come of retirement age), and the NON-ADUSTABLE headrest actively shoved
my head forward--which was an absolute deal-killer. It was the most
uncomfortable driving position I can ever remember in ANY car, and
absolutely shameful in a Honda.

The back seat was noticeably smaller than the Prius as well. I know
that was OK back when Honda thought they would sell at a price
significantly less than the Prius, but that won't happen now--and the
smaller car with lower fuel economy is not a good thing.

I got back into the Prius and it was like getting back into an old pair
of comfortable shoes, or your favorite recliner--it just fit. In fact,
getting back into my Prius reminded me of when I first got into the 92
Civic Si on the showroom floor--"ah, this is home, it feels exactly like
it should". I bought that Si on the spot. I *know* that Honda knows
how to do it; what's shameful is that they didn't do it on the Insight.

I have an 07 base Prius--the model that you can't get off a dealer's
lot, the one that has to be ordered because it's as base as a Prius gets
and no dealer orders them that way. I am perfectly happy with that car
and its level of equipment. Toyota's current plan is to sell the "Prius
I", I presume equipped minimally like mine, to fight the Insight at
roughly the Insight price.

If Toyota follows through and sells such a car at the same price as the
Insight, either Toyota will decimate Insight sales or else the Insight
will end up selling for significantly less than what Honda planned.

Dear Honda: shame, shame, SHAME on you for the Insight.

E. Meyer 04-28-2009 10:56 AM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'lllearn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 



On 4/28/09 6:16 AM, in article
elmop-93E01B.07163128042009@mara100-84.onlink.net, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> In article <Xns9BFB456086284tegger@208.90.168.18>,
> Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>>> The Prius is not in the class of the Yaris. It is between a Corolla
>>> and a Camry.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> It's based on the Yaris platform.

>
> maybe, but man oh man, is the Prius big inside.
>
> Not only that, it turns on a dime and gives eight cents' change.
>
> Toyota done good with the Prius.
>


You have got to be kidding. My daughter, who was used to driving her '97
Infiniti i30t got a Prius rental one time. The first tight curve she
encountered it almost flew off the road. Wallowed like a '60 Cadillac.
Worst handling I've seen in a small car. If you think the Prius turns on a
dime, you must be used to Mack trucks.


Conscience 04-28-2009 11:43 AM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 
On 2009-04-28 07:56:59 -0700, "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> said:

>
>
>
> On 4/28/09 6:16 AM, in article
> elmop-93E01B.07163128042009@mara100-84.onlink.net, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <Xns9BFB456086284tegger@208.90.168.18>,
>> Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>>
>>>> The Prius is not in the class of the Yaris. It is between a Corolla
>>>> and a Camry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's based on the Yaris platform.

>>
>> maybe, but man oh man, is the Prius big inside.
>>
>> Not only that, it turns on a dime and gives eight cents' change.
>>
>> Toyota done good with the Prius.
>>

>
> You have got to be kidding. My daughter, who was used to driving her '97
> Infiniti i30t got a Prius rental one time. The first tight curve she
> encountered it almost flew off the road. Wallowed like a '60 Cadillac.
> Worst handling I've seen in a small car. If you think the Prius turns on a
> dime, you must be used to Mack trucks.


All too true. I've never driven a vehicle of that size that handled
worse than my sister-in-law's Prius.

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Was Istoben 04-28-2009 05:22 PM

Re: Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.
 

"Conscience" <nobama@göv.com> wrote in message
news:gt7868$qe3$2@news.albasani.net...
> All too true. I've never driven a vehicle of that size that handled worse
> than my sister-in-law's Prius.
>

You should drive my Explorer. My Prius handles much better than it does.

I couldn't help but notice that both you and Meyer refer to cars you neither
own nor drive regularily. As with any car, it takes a few miles and a few
curves to adjust.




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