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The Man 09-20-2006 01:36 PM

URGENT! Brake Help
 
I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
the adjuster to the smallest it will go.

I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
maybe not since it's not going back together.

Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
today!

Thanks


TeGGeR® 09-20-2006 04:31 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in news:1158773809.184308.165240
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>




Is the adjuster loose even with the shoe return spring in place?



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TeGGeR® 09-20-2006 04:31 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in news:1158773809.184308.165240
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>




Is the adjuster loose even with the shoe return spring in place?



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 09-20-2006 04:31 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in news:1158773809.184308.165240
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>




Is the adjuster loose even with the shoe return spring in place?



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Eric 09-20-2006 04:35 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
>
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks


Perhaps the brake shoe assembly is not centered on the backing plate?
Another possibility is that you did not push the wheel cylinder's pistons in
before connecting it to the brake line. This could cause a "hydraulic lock"
preventing the shoes from coming back to a full return position. If you
suspect this might be the case, try opening the bleeder valve to see if the
return springs pull the shoes inward.

Eric

Eric 09-20-2006 04:35 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
>
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks


Perhaps the brake shoe assembly is not centered on the backing plate?
Another possibility is that you did not push the wheel cylinder's pistons in
before connecting it to the brake line. This could cause a "hydraulic lock"
preventing the shoes from coming back to a full return position. If you
suspect this might be the case, try opening the bleeder valve to see if the
return springs pull the shoes inward.

Eric

Eric 09-20-2006 04:35 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
>
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks


Perhaps the brake shoe assembly is not centered on the backing plate?
Another possibility is that you did not push the wheel cylinder's pistons in
before connecting it to the brake line. This could cause a "hydraulic lock"
preventing the shoes from coming back to a full return position. If you
suspect this might be the case, try opening the bleeder valve to see if the
return springs pull the shoes inward.

Eric

Grahame 09-20-2006 05:10 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
Try pushing the wheel cylinder pistons in, I assume you already bleed
the line.

The Man wrote:
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks



Grahame 09-20-2006 05:10 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
Try pushing the wheel cylinder pistons in, I assume you already bleed
the line.

The Man wrote:
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks



Grahame 09-20-2006 05:10 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
Try pushing the wheel cylinder pistons in, I assume you already bleed
the line.

The Man wrote:
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks



Michael Pardee 09-20-2006 07:33 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158773809.184308.165240@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks
>


In addition to the other comments, make sure the slotted pieces (cylinder
ends and adjuster) are seated on the shoes. I've had them bind and not allow
the shoes to come in all the way.

If only one side is the problem, you can compare clearances to the other
side. Otherwise, is it possible the parts you got are wrong?

Mike



Michael Pardee 09-20-2006 07:33 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158773809.184308.165240@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks
>


In addition to the other comments, make sure the slotted pieces (cylinder
ends and adjuster) are seated on the shoes. I've had them bind and not allow
the shoes to come in all the way.

If only one side is the problem, you can compare clearances to the other
side. Otherwise, is it possible the parts you got are wrong?

Mike



Michael Pardee 09-20-2006 07:33 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158773809.184308.165240@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks
>


In addition to the other comments, make sure the slotted pieces (cylinder
ends and adjuster) are seated on the shoes. I've had them bind and not allow
the shoes to come in all the way.

If only one side is the problem, you can compare clearances to the other
side. Otherwise, is it possible the parts you got are wrong?

Mike



Al 09-20-2006 07:36 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment?




The Man wrote:
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks
>


Al 09-20-2006 07:36 PM

Re: URGENT! Brake Help
 
Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment?




The Man wrote:
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks
>



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