water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
<pleaseexplaintome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi, I have a 2003 Honda Accord and today I noticed water leaking under
> the car between the driver's and passenger's seat. The engine was hot
> from driving but the water was cold with no color at all - it was plain
> old water. I drove over no puddles and I was not running the AC so it
> can't be condesation. Does anyone have any thoughts on what to look
> at? If it's the water pump, wouldn't the water be hot? Thanks
>
As has been said, Honda chose to automatically turn on the air conditioning
when you have the air flow setting at either full defrost (all on the
windshield) or partial defrost. However, they also chose to not light the
green AC light when this occurs.
Bob
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
<pleaseexplaintome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi, I have a 2003 Honda Accord and today I noticed water leaking under
> the car between the driver's and passenger's seat. The engine was hot
> from driving but the water was cold with no color at all - it was plain
> old water. I drove over no puddles and I was not running the AC so it
> can't be condesation. Does anyone have any thoughts on what to look
> at? If it's the water pump, wouldn't the water be hot? Thanks
>
As has been said, Honda chose to automatically turn on the air conditioning
when you have the air flow setting at either full defrost (all on the
windshield) or partial defrost. However, they also chose to not light the
green AC light when this occurs.
Bob
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
<pleaseexplaintome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi, I have a 2003 Honda Accord and today I noticed water leaking under
> the car between the driver's and passenger's seat. The engine was hot
> from driving but the water was cold with no color at all - it was plain
> old water. I drove over no puddles and I was not running the AC so it
> can't be condesation. Does anyone have any thoughts on what to look
> at? If it's the water pump, wouldn't the water be hot? Thanks
>
As has been said, Honda chose to automatically turn on the air conditioning
when you have the air flow setting at either full defrost (all on the
windshield) or partial defrost. However, they also chose to not light the
green AC light when this occurs.
Bob
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
rjdriver wrote:
>
> <pleaseexplaintome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1159288523.040671.291630@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Hi, I have a 2003 Honda Accord and today I noticed water leaking under
> > the car between the driver's and passenger's seat. The engine was hot
> > from driving but the water was cold with no color at all - it was plain
> > old water. I drove over no puddles and I was not running the AC so it
> > can't be condesation. Does anyone have any thoughts on what to look
> > at? If it's the water pump, wouldn't the water be hot? Thanks
> >
>
> As has been said, Honda chose to automatically turn on the air conditioning
> when you have the air flow setting at either full defrost (all on the
> windshield) or partial defrost. However, they also chose to not light the
> green AC light when this occurs.
>
> Bob
Most modern cars operate this way in order to dehumidify the incoming
air which prevents window fogging...
JT
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
rjdriver wrote:
>
> <pleaseexplaintome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1159288523.040671.291630@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Hi, I have a 2003 Honda Accord and today I noticed water leaking under
> > the car between the driver's and passenger's seat. The engine was hot
> > from driving but the water was cold with no color at all - it was plain
> > old water. I drove over no puddles and I was not running the AC so it
> > can't be condesation. Does anyone have any thoughts on what to look
> > at? If it's the water pump, wouldn't the water be hot? Thanks
> >
>
> As has been said, Honda chose to automatically turn on the air conditioning
> when you have the air flow setting at either full defrost (all on the
> windshield) or partial defrost. However, they also chose to not light the
> green AC light when this occurs.
>
> Bob
Most modern cars operate this way in order to dehumidify the incoming
air which prevents window fogging...
JT
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
rjdriver wrote:
>
> <pleaseexplaintome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1159288523.040671.291630@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Hi, I have a 2003 Honda Accord and today I noticed water leaking under
> > the car between the driver's and passenger's seat. The engine was hot
> > from driving but the water was cold with no color at all - it was plain
> > old water. I drove over no puddles and I was not running the AC so it
> > can't be condesation. Does anyone have any thoughts on what to look
> > at? If it's the water pump, wouldn't the water be hot? Thanks
> >
>
> As has been said, Honda chose to automatically turn on the air conditioning
> when you have the air flow setting at either full defrost (all on the
> windshield) or partial defrost. However, they also chose to not light the
> green AC light when this occurs.
>
> Bob
Most modern cars operate this way in order to dehumidify the incoming
air which prevents window fogging...
JT
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
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>
> rjdriver wrote:
>>
>> <pleaseexplaintome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1159288523.040671.291630@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Hi, I have a 2003 Honda Accord and today I noticed water leaking under
>> > the car between the driver's and passenger's seat. The engine was hot
>> > from driving but the water was cold with no color at all - it was plain
>> > old water. I drove over no puddles and I was not running the AC so it
>> > can't be condesation. Does anyone have any thoughts on what to look
>> > at? If it's the water pump, wouldn't the water be hot? Thanks
>> >
>>
>> As has been said, Honda chose to automatically turn on the air
>> conditioning
>> when you have the air flow setting at either full defrost (all on the
>> windshield) or partial defrost. However, they also chose to not light
>> the
>> green AC light when this occurs.
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> Most modern cars operate this way in order to dehumidify the incoming
> air which prevents window fogging...
>
> JT
Yes, but why not be up front about it and light the AC light? Or even
better, since the incoming air doesn't always fog the windshield, why not
let ME decide when I need to dehumidify.
Bob
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> rjdriver wrote:
>>
>> <pleaseexplaintome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1159288523.040671.291630@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Hi, I have a 2003 Honda Accord and today I noticed water leaking under
>> > the car between the driver's and passenger's seat. The engine was hot
>> > from driving but the water was cold with no color at all - it was plain
>> > old water. I drove over no puddles and I was not running the AC so it
>> > can't be condesation. Does anyone have any thoughts on what to look
>> > at? If it's the water pump, wouldn't the water be hot? Thanks
>> >
>>
>> As has been said, Honda chose to automatically turn on the air
>> conditioning
>> when you have the air flow setting at either full defrost (all on the
>> windshield) or partial defrost. However, they also chose to not light
>> the
>> green AC light when this occurs.
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> Most modern cars operate this way in order to dehumidify the incoming
> air which prevents window fogging...
>
> JT
Yes, but why not be up front about it and light the AC light? Or even
better, since the incoming air doesn't always fog the windshield, why not
let ME decide when I need to dehumidify.
Bob
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> rjdriver wrote:
>>
>> <pleaseexplaintome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1159288523.040671.291630@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Hi, I have a 2003 Honda Accord and today I noticed water leaking under
>> > the car between the driver's and passenger's seat. The engine was hot
>> > from driving but the water was cold with no color at all - it was plain
>> > old water. I drove over no puddles and I was not running the AC so it
>> > can't be condesation. Does anyone have any thoughts on what to look
>> > at? If it's the water pump, wouldn't the water be hot? Thanks
>> >
>>
>> As has been said, Honda chose to automatically turn on the air
>> conditioning
>> when you have the air flow setting at either full defrost (all on the
>> windshield) or partial defrost. However, they also chose to not light
>> the
>> green AC light when this occurs.
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> Most modern cars operate this way in order to dehumidify the incoming
> air which prevents window fogging...
>
> JT
Yes, but why not be up front about it and light the AC light? Or even
better, since the incoming air doesn't always fog the windshield, why not
let ME decide when I need to dehumidify.
Bob
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
"rjdriver" <rjdriversNOSPAM@***.net> wrote in message
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>
> Yes, but why not be up front about it and light the AC light? Or even
> better, since the incoming air doesn't always fog the windshield, why not
> let ME decide when I need to dehumidify.
>
> Bob
>
I can't answer the first part: why doesn't it light the A/C light? But you
already know the second part - if they don't always dehumidify the air
blowing on the windshield and it should suddenly fog your view, their
liability is too great. I can't think of a single car made in recent years
that doesn't behave that way. Even my '85 Volvo does that. But if you think
about it, if you are trying to remove frost/ice any humidity in the air will
fog (or frost) the windshield as it hits the cold glass, and if you aren't
trying to defog the windshield you need dry air to do that.
Most of the systems also turn off the compressor if the outside temperature
is below a certain temperature, like 50F, because the air is already quite
dry. Maybe that has some bearing on the A/C light status, because trying to
report what is actually happening could be convoluted. "You didn't ask for
the A/C to be on but it is on because you have the defroster turned on but
the compressor isn't running because it is too cold outside." In the end, we
just keep driving unless the windshield fogs up.
Mike
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>
> Yes, but why not be up front about it and light the AC light? Or even
> better, since the incoming air doesn't always fog the windshield, why not
> let ME decide when I need to dehumidify.
>
> Bob
>
I can't answer the first part: why doesn't it light the A/C light? But you
already know the second part - if they don't always dehumidify the air
blowing on the windshield and it should suddenly fog your view, their
liability is too great. I can't think of a single car made in recent years
that doesn't behave that way. Even my '85 Volvo does that. But if you think
about it, if you are trying to remove frost/ice any humidity in the air will
fog (or frost) the windshield as it hits the cold glass, and if you aren't
trying to defog the windshield you need dry air to do that.
Most of the systems also turn off the compressor if the outside temperature
is below a certain temperature, like 50F, because the air is already quite
dry. Maybe that has some bearing on the A/C light status, because trying to
report what is actually happening could be convoluted. "You didn't ask for
the A/C to be on but it is on because you have the defroster turned on but
the compressor isn't running because it is too cold outside." In the end, we
just keep driving unless the windshield fogs up.
Mike
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
"rjdriver" <rjdriversNOSPAM@***.net> wrote in message
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>
> Yes, but why not be up front about it and light the AC light? Or even
> better, since the incoming air doesn't always fog the windshield, why not
> let ME decide when I need to dehumidify.
>
> Bob
>
I can't answer the first part: why doesn't it light the A/C light? But you
already know the second part - if they don't always dehumidify the air
blowing on the windshield and it should suddenly fog your view, their
liability is too great. I can't think of a single car made in recent years
that doesn't behave that way. Even my '85 Volvo does that. But if you think
about it, if you are trying to remove frost/ice any humidity in the air will
fog (or frost) the windshield as it hits the cold glass, and if you aren't
trying to defog the windshield you need dry air to do that.
Most of the systems also turn off the compressor if the outside temperature
is below a certain temperature, like 50F, because the air is already quite
dry. Maybe that has some bearing on the A/C light status, because trying to
report what is actually happening could be convoluted. "You didn't ask for
the A/C to be on but it is on because you have the defroster turned on but
the compressor isn't running because it is too cold outside." In the end, we
just keep driving unless the windshield fogs up.
Mike
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>
> Yes, but why not be up front about it and light the AC light? Or even
> better, since the incoming air doesn't always fog the windshield, why not
> let ME decide when I need to dehumidify.
>
> Bob
>
I can't answer the first part: why doesn't it light the A/C light? But you
already know the second part - if they don't always dehumidify the air
blowing on the windshield and it should suddenly fog your view, their
liability is too great. I can't think of a single car made in recent years
that doesn't behave that way. Even my '85 Volvo does that. But if you think
about it, if you are trying to remove frost/ice any humidity in the air will
fog (or frost) the windshield as it hits the cold glass, and if you aren't
trying to defog the windshield you need dry air to do that.
Most of the systems also turn off the compressor if the outside temperature
is below a certain temperature, like 50F, because the air is already quite
dry. Maybe that has some bearing on the A/C light status, because trying to
report what is actually happening could be convoluted. "You didn't ask for
the A/C to be on but it is on because you have the defroster turned on but
the compressor isn't running because it is too cold outside." In the end, we
just keep driving unless the windshield fogs up.
Mike
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
"rjdriver" <rjdriversNOSPAM@***.net> wrote in message
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>
> Yes, but why not be up front about it and light the AC light? Or even
> better, since the incoming air doesn't always fog the windshield, why not
> let ME decide when I need to dehumidify.
>
> Bob
>
I can't answer the first part: why doesn't it light the A/C light? But you
already know the second part - if they don't always dehumidify the air
blowing on the windshield and it should suddenly fog your view, their
liability is too great. I can't think of a single car made in recent years
that doesn't behave that way. Even my '85 Volvo does that. But if you think
about it, if you are trying to remove frost/ice any humidity in the air will
fog (or frost) the windshield as it hits the cold glass, and if you aren't
trying to defog the windshield you need dry air to do that.
Most of the systems also turn off the compressor if the outside temperature
is below a certain temperature, like 50F, because the air is already quite
dry. Maybe that has some bearing on the A/C light status, because trying to
report what is actually happening could be convoluted. "You didn't ask for
the A/C to be on but it is on because you have the defroster turned on but
the compressor isn't running because it is too cold outside." In the end, we
just keep driving unless the windshield fogs up.
Mike
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>
> Yes, but why not be up front about it and light the AC light? Or even
> better, since the incoming air doesn't always fog the windshield, why not
> let ME decide when I need to dehumidify.
>
> Bob
>
I can't answer the first part: why doesn't it light the A/C light? But you
already know the second part - if they don't always dehumidify the air
blowing on the windshield and it should suddenly fog your view, their
liability is too great. I can't think of a single car made in recent years
that doesn't behave that way. Even my '85 Volvo does that. But if you think
about it, if you are trying to remove frost/ice any humidity in the air will
fog (or frost) the windshield as it hits the cold glass, and if you aren't
trying to defog the windshield you need dry air to do that.
Most of the systems also turn off the compressor if the outside temperature
is below a certain temperature, like 50F, because the air is already quite
dry. Maybe that has some bearing on the A/C light status, because trying to
report what is actually happening could be convoluted. "You didn't ask for
the A/C to be on but it is on because you have the defroster turned on but
the compressor isn't running because it is too cold outside." In the end, we
just keep driving unless the windshield fogs up.
Mike
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
rjdriver wrote:
>
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:451A915A.CE275672@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
> >
> >
> > rjdriver wrote:
> >>
> >> <pleaseexplaintome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1159288523.040671.291630@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >> > Hi, I have a 2003 Honda Accord and today I noticed water leaking under
> >> > the car between the driver's and passenger's seat. The engine was hot
> >> > from driving but the water was cold with no color at all - it was plain
> >> > old water. I drove over no puddles and I was not running the AC so it
> >> > can't be condesation. Does anyone have any thoughts on what to look
> >> > at? If it's the water pump, wouldn't the water be hot? Thanks
> >> >
> >>
> >> As has been said, Honda chose to automatically turn on the air
> >> conditioning
> >> when you have the air flow setting at either full defrost (all on the
> >> windshield) or partial defrost. However, they also chose to not light
> >> the
> >> green AC light when this occurs.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
>
> >
> > Most modern cars operate this way in order to dehumidify the incoming
> > air which prevents window fogging...
> >
> > JT
>
> Yes, but why not be up front about it and light the AC light? Or even
> better, since the incoming air doesn't always fog the windshield, why not
> let ME decide when I need to dehumidify.
>
> Bob
Sorry, but big brother (or sister) has determined that decision is no
longer an option with common consumers as they are generally to dumb(ed
down) to make rational decisions.
Now, if you believe that you are truly not part of the sheeple masses,
you can buy a pair of wire cutters, hack saw and other assorted "tool"
of modification and rewire/reroute/redesign the system to suit. Not a
move that I would recommend though...
JT
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Re: water leak under 2003 Honda Accord
rjdriver wrote:
>
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:451A915A.CE275672@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
> >
> >
> > rjdriver wrote:
> >>
> >> <pleaseexplaintome@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1159288523.040671.291630@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >> > Hi, I have a 2003 Honda Accord and today I noticed water leaking under
> >> > the car between the driver's and passenger's seat. The engine was hot
> >> > from driving but the water was cold with no color at all - it was plain
> >> > old water. I drove over no puddles and I was not running the AC so it
> >> > can't be condesation. Does anyone have any thoughts on what to look
> >> > at? If it's the water pump, wouldn't the water be hot? Thanks
> >> >
> >>
> >> As has been said, Honda chose to automatically turn on the air
> >> conditioning
> >> when you have the air flow setting at either full defrost (all on the
> >> windshield) or partial defrost. However, they also chose to not light
> >> the
> >> green AC light when this occurs.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
>
> >
> > Most modern cars operate this way in order to dehumidify the incoming
> > air which prevents window fogging...
> >
> > JT
>
> Yes, but why not be up front about it and light the AC light? Or even
> better, since the incoming air doesn't always fog the windshield, why not
> let ME decide when I need to dehumidify.
>
> Bob
Sorry, but big brother (or sister) has determined that decision is no
longer an option with common consumers as they are generally to dumb(ed
down) to make rational decisions.
Now, if you believe that you are truly not part of the sheeple masses,
you can buy a pair of wire cutters, hack saw and other assorted "tool"
of modification and rewire/reroute/redesign the system to suit. Not a
move that I would recommend though...
JT