What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic
#91
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Re: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <H3XOg.6$s85.5@newsfe08.lga>,
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Now we have computers that take ALL the factors affecting oil life into
>> consideration and thus the 3000 OCI of old has morphed into "change the oil
>> when the computer says to" with a stage of "here are some different
>> intervals based on use" in between.
>
> I would be happier if the computer gave me even a few simple options for
> explaining whether I was a conservative worrywart who wanted a very
> conservative interval, or whatever.
>
Easily done. Just change your oil at some point early in the countdown.
Personally I change the oil when the oil life monitor is around 20%
left to go. Ta da, a safety margin.
John
> In article <H3XOg.6$s85.5@newsfe08.lga>,
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Now we have computers that take ALL the factors affecting oil life into
>> consideration and thus the 3000 OCI of old has morphed into "change the oil
>> when the computer says to" with a stage of "here are some different
>> intervals based on use" in between.
>
> I would be happier if the computer gave me even a few simple options for
> explaining whether I was a conservative worrywart who wanted a very
> conservative interval, or whatever.
>
Easily done. Just change your oil at some point early in the countdown.
Personally I change the oil when the oil life monitor is around 20%
left to go. Ta da, a safety margin.
John
#92
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Re: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic
televascular wrote:
> > Now we have computers that take ALL the factors affecting oil life
> into
>> consideration and thus the 3000 OCI of old has morphed into "change the oil
>> when the computer says to" with a stage of "here are some different
>> intervals based on use" in between.
>
>> My wife's mini-van rather than a simple light, gives it in a percentage.
>> Worriers can do it and reset it at say, 20%???
>
> This is part of my argument: the Oil Life Meter should NOT be
> considered the end-all be-all indicator. Like I said, they are very
> liberal on oil life because of the "cost of ownership" concerns.
Do you have any factual evidence for this assertion, or is it simply
your guess? You are saying that Honda's engineering team pushed the oil
life envelope aggressively in order to reduce perceived cost of
ownership.
You should also note that the reason Hondas do well in cost-of-ownership
calculations is due first and foremost to relatively low depreciation
costs thanks to high resale values. In fact, it would be counter
productive for Honda to make recommendations which shorted the useful
life of it's products and therefore speed up the depreciation curve.
People readily confuse assertions with fact.
John
> > Now we have computers that take ALL the factors affecting oil life
> into
>> consideration and thus the 3000 OCI of old has morphed into "change the oil
>> when the computer says to" with a stage of "here are some different
>> intervals based on use" in between.
>
>> My wife's mini-van rather than a simple light, gives it in a percentage.
>> Worriers can do it and reset it at say, 20%???
>
> This is part of my argument: the Oil Life Meter should NOT be
> considered the end-all be-all indicator. Like I said, they are very
> liberal on oil life because of the "cost of ownership" concerns.
Do you have any factual evidence for this assertion, or is it simply
your guess? You are saying that Honda's engineering team pushed the oil
life envelope aggressively in order to reduce perceived cost of
ownership.
You should also note that the reason Hondas do well in cost-of-ownership
calculations is due first and foremost to relatively low depreciation
costs thanks to high resale values. In fact, it would be counter
productive for Honda to make recommendations which shorted the useful
life of it's products and therefore speed up the depreciation curve.
People readily confuse assertions with fact.
John
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Re: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic
televascular wrote:
> > Now we have computers that take ALL the factors affecting oil life
> into
>> consideration and thus the 3000 OCI of old has morphed into "change the oil
>> when the computer says to" with a stage of "here are some different
>> intervals based on use" in between.
>
>> My wife's mini-van rather than a simple light, gives it in a percentage.
>> Worriers can do it and reset it at say, 20%???
>
> This is part of my argument: the Oil Life Meter should NOT be
> considered the end-all be-all indicator. Like I said, they are very
> liberal on oil life because of the "cost of ownership" concerns.
Do you have any factual evidence for this assertion, or is it simply
your guess? You are saying that Honda's engineering team pushed the oil
life envelope aggressively in order to reduce perceived cost of
ownership.
You should also note that the reason Hondas do well in cost-of-ownership
calculations is due first and foremost to relatively low depreciation
costs thanks to high resale values. In fact, it would be counter
productive for Honda to make recommendations which shorted the useful
life of it's products and therefore speed up the depreciation curve.
People readily confuse assertions with fact.
John
> > Now we have computers that take ALL the factors affecting oil life
> into
>> consideration and thus the 3000 OCI of old has morphed into "change the oil
>> when the computer says to" with a stage of "here are some different
>> intervals based on use" in between.
>
>> My wife's mini-van rather than a simple light, gives it in a percentage.
>> Worriers can do it and reset it at say, 20%???
>
> This is part of my argument: the Oil Life Meter should NOT be
> considered the end-all be-all indicator. Like I said, they are very
> liberal on oil life because of the "cost of ownership" concerns.
Do you have any factual evidence for this assertion, or is it simply
your guess? You are saying that Honda's engineering team pushed the oil
life envelope aggressively in order to reduce perceived cost of
ownership.
You should also note that the reason Hondas do well in cost-of-ownership
calculations is due first and foremost to relatively low depreciation
costs thanks to high resale values. In fact, it would be counter
productive for Honda to make recommendations which shorted the useful
life of it's products and therefore speed up the depreciation curve.
People readily confuse assertions with fact.
John
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Re: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic
televascular wrote:
> > Now we have computers that take ALL the factors affecting oil life
> into
>> consideration and thus the 3000 OCI of old has morphed into "change the oil
>> when the computer says to" with a stage of "here are some different
>> intervals based on use" in between.
>
>> My wife's mini-van rather than a simple light, gives it in a percentage.
>> Worriers can do it and reset it at say, 20%???
>
> This is part of my argument: the Oil Life Meter should NOT be
> considered the end-all be-all indicator. Like I said, they are very
> liberal on oil life because of the "cost of ownership" concerns.
Do you have any factual evidence for this assertion, or is it simply
your guess? You are saying that Honda's engineering team pushed the oil
life envelope aggressively in order to reduce perceived cost of
ownership.
You should also note that the reason Hondas do well in cost-of-ownership
calculations is due first and foremost to relatively low depreciation
costs thanks to high resale values. In fact, it would be counter
productive for Honda to make recommendations which shorted the useful
life of it's products and therefore speed up the depreciation curve.
People readily confuse assertions with fact.
John
> > Now we have computers that take ALL the factors affecting oil life
> into
>> consideration and thus the 3000 OCI of old has morphed into "change the oil
>> when the computer says to" with a stage of "here are some different
>> intervals based on use" in between.
>
>> My wife's mini-van rather than a simple light, gives it in a percentage.
>> Worriers can do it and reset it at say, 20%???
>
> This is part of my argument: the Oil Life Meter should NOT be
> considered the end-all be-all indicator. Like I said, they are very
> liberal on oil life because of the "cost of ownership" concerns.
Do you have any factual evidence for this assertion, or is it simply
your guess? You are saying that Honda's engineering team pushed the oil
life envelope aggressively in order to reduce perceived cost of
ownership.
You should also note that the reason Hondas do well in cost-of-ownership
calculations is due first and foremost to relatively low depreciation
costs thanks to high resale values. In fact, it would be counter
productive for Honda to make recommendations which shorted the useful
life of it's products and therefore speed up the depreciation curve.
People readily confuse assertions with fact.
John
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Re: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic
Elle wrote:
> "televascular" <televascular@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Granted, a car with it's oil changed
>> every 500 miles will last much, much longer than a car
>> with oil changed
>> every 7,500.
>
> At some point, more frequent changes add no further life to
> the engine. That point may very well be around 3000 miles
> per oil change (with a commensurate time limit).
>
> I think there is no basis (data, common sense, or otherwise)
> for saying an engine will last "much, much longer" the more
> often one changes the oil.
>
>
Actually there has been testing which seems to show that wear metals per
mile rate decrease as oil continues in service.
One independent effort:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/s.../oil-life.html
There are other industry studies about this, but they cost money to buy.
John
> "televascular" <televascular@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Granted, a car with it's oil changed
>> every 500 miles will last much, much longer than a car
>> with oil changed
>> every 7,500.
>
> At some point, more frequent changes add no further life to
> the engine. That point may very well be around 3000 miles
> per oil change (with a commensurate time limit).
>
> I think there is no basis (data, common sense, or otherwise)
> for saying an engine will last "much, much longer" the more
> often one changes the oil.
>
>
Actually there has been testing which seems to show that wear metals per
mile rate decrease as oil continues in service.
One independent effort:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/s.../oil-life.html
There are other industry studies about this, but they cost money to buy.
John
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Re: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic
Elle wrote:
> "televascular" <televascular@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Granted, a car with it's oil changed
>> every 500 miles will last much, much longer than a car
>> with oil changed
>> every 7,500.
>
> At some point, more frequent changes add no further life to
> the engine. That point may very well be around 3000 miles
> per oil change (with a commensurate time limit).
>
> I think there is no basis (data, common sense, or otherwise)
> for saying an engine will last "much, much longer" the more
> often one changes the oil.
>
>
Actually there has been testing which seems to show that wear metals per
mile rate decrease as oil continues in service.
One independent effort:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/s.../oil-life.html
There are other industry studies about this, but they cost money to buy.
John
> "televascular" <televascular@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Granted, a car with it's oil changed
>> every 500 miles will last much, much longer than a car
>> with oil changed
>> every 7,500.
>
> At some point, more frequent changes add no further life to
> the engine. That point may very well be around 3000 miles
> per oil change (with a commensurate time limit).
>
> I think there is no basis (data, common sense, or otherwise)
> for saying an engine will last "much, much longer" the more
> often one changes the oil.
>
>
Actually there has been testing which seems to show that wear metals per
mile rate decrease as oil continues in service.
One independent effort:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/s.../oil-life.html
There are other industry studies about this, but they cost money to buy.
John
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Re: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic
Elle wrote:
> "televascular" <televascular@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Granted, a car with it's oil changed
>> every 500 miles will last much, much longer than a car
>> with oil changed
>> every 7,500.
>
> At some point, more frequent changes add no further life to
> the engine. That point may very well be around 3000 miles
> per oil change (with a commensurate time limit).
>
> I think there is no basis (data, common sense, or otherwise)
> for saying an engine will last "much, much longer" the more
> often one changes the oil.
>
>
Actually there has been testing which seems to show that wear metals per
mile rate decrease as oil continues in service.
One independent effort:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/s.../oil-life.html
There are other industry studies about this, but they cost money to buy.
John
> "televascular" <televascular@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Granted, a car with it's oil changed
>> every 500 miles will last much, much longer than a car
>> with oil changed
>> every 7,500.
>
> At some point, more frequent changes add no further life to
> the engine. That point may very well be around 3000 miles
> per oil change (with a commensurate time limit).
>
> I think there is no basis (data, common sense, or otherwise)
> for saying an engine will last "much, much longer" the more
> often one changes the oil.
>
>
Actually there has been testing which seems to show that wear metals per
mile rate decrease as oil continues in service.
One independent effort:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/s.../oil-life.html
There are other industry studies about this, but they cost money to buy.
John
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Re: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote
> Elle wrote:
>> At some point, more frequent changes add no further life
>> to the engine. That point may very well be around 3000
>> miles per oil change (with a commensurate time limit).
>>
>> I think there is no basis (data, common sense, or
>> otherwise) for saying an engine will last "much, much
>> longer" the more often one changes the oil.
>
>
> Actually there has been testing which seems to show that
> wear metals per mile rate decrease as oil continues in
> service.
Actually, the home study you reference appears to have used
data on a single car and for only a few samples of oil
total. I wouldn't recommend anyone waste a moment slogging
through it and figuring out whatever point the authors seem
to be trying to make. They seem to be amateurs at best.
> Elle wrote:
>> At some point, more frequent changes add no further life
>> to the engine. That point may very well be around 3000
>> miles per oil change (with a commensurate time limit).
>>
>> I think there is no basis (data, common sense, or
>> otherwise) for saying an engine will last "much, much
>> longer" the more often one changes the oil.
>
>
> Actually there has been testing which seems to show that
> wear metals per mile rate decrease as oil continues in
> service.
Actually, the home study you reference appears to have used
data on a single car and for only a few samples of oil
total. I wouldn't recommend anyone waste a moment slogging
through it and figuring out whatever point the authors seem
to be trying to make. They seem to be amateurs at best.
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Re: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote
> Elle wrote:
>> At some point, more frequent changes add no further life
>> to the engine. That point may very well be around 3000
>> miles per oil change (with a commensurate time limit).
>>
>> I think there is no basis (data, common sense, or
>> otherwise) for saying an engine will last "much, much
>> longer" the more often one changes the oil.
>
>
> Actually there has been testing which seems to show that
> wear metals per mile rate decrease as oil continues in
> service.
Actually, the home study you reference appears to have used
data on a single car and for only a few samples of oil
total. I wouldn't recommend anyone waste a moment slogging
through it and figuring out whatever point the authors seem
to be trying to make. They seem to be amateurs at best.
> Elle wrote:
>> At some point, more frequent changes add no further life
>> to the engine. That point may very well be around 3000
>> miles per oil change (with a commensurate time limit).
>>
>> I think there is no basis (data, common sense, or
>> otherwise) for saying an engine will last "much, much
>> longer" the more often one changes the oil.
>
>
> Actually there has been testing which seems to show that
> wear metals per mile rate decrease as oil continues in
> service.
Actually, the home study you reference appears to have used
data on a single car and for only a few samples of oil
total. I wouldn't recommend anyone waste a moment slogging
through it and figuring out whatever point the authors seem
to be trying to make. They seem to be amateurs at best.
#100
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Re: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote
> Elle wrote:
>> At some point, more frequent changes add no further life
>> to the engine. That point may very well be around 3000
>> miles per oil change (with a commensurate time limit).
>>
>> I think there is no basis (data, common sense, or
>> otherwise) for saying an engine will last "much, much
>> longer" the more often one changes the oil.
>
>
> Actually there has been testing which seems to show that
> wear metals per mile rate decrease as oil continues in
> service.
Actually, the home study you reference appears to have used
data on a single car and for only a few samples of oil
total. I wouldn't recommend anyone waste a moment slogging
through it and figuring out whatever point the authors seem
to be trying to make. They seem to be amateurs at best.
> Elle wrote:
>> At some point, more frequent changes add no further life
>> to the engine. That point may very well be around 3000
>> miles per oil change (with a commensurate time limit).
>>
>> I think there is no basis (data, common sense, or
>> otherwise) for saying an engine will last "much, much
>> longer" the more often one changes the oil.
>
>
> Actually there has been testing which seems to show that
> wear metals per mile rate decrease as oil continues in
> service.
Actually, the home study you reference appears to have used
data on a single car and for only a few samples of oil
total. I wouldn't recommend anyone waste a moment slogging
through it and figuring out whatever point the authors seem
to be trying to make. They seem to be amateurs at best.
#101
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Re: 2006 Civic Si 3rd Gear (was: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic)
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> Now THIS I find interesting...
>
> I, too, have noticed this phenomena in 3rd. It has, on occasion, caused a
> slight grind, as I didn't get the car fully into third before letting out
> the clutch, as the notchiness (good word for it) interrupted my rythem.
>
> What are the downsides (if any) to changing to a Synthetic Tranny fluid?
> The manual is pretty clear on sticking with Honda's Tranny fluid. Would
> this affect warranty?
>
> Also, should it be done in a shop, or is it sufficient to just drain the
> fluid and add the Synth? I've never changed Tranny fluid before in any
> car. Always had it done by a shop. But it usually costs $80 or more. If
> it is relatively easy, I'll do it myself...
Joe,
There is no perceived downside to synthetic transmission fluid, besides
cost. I should warn you, however, that tranny fluid requires a very
specific viscosity and additive package, and different trannies require
different fluids. Honda uses the same MTF for nearly every vehicle they
sell, so just find one that is compatible. I did a lot of research to
find one that would be appropriate for the '06 Si, and I decided on the
SF-MTL-P ($30.20 + shipping for one gallon).
http://theoildrop.server101.com is a great resource.
Another note: after reading around on the internet, there have been
some instances where people claimed to switch to Redline MTL in their
Hondas, and then their synchros failed within 10,000 miles. Who knows
if the two are related, but it's enough to deter me from buying their
fluid.
A transmission fluid change is even easier than an oil change, since
our Sis have no serviceable tranny oil filter. There are two plugs on
the side of the transaxle: the top one is for filling, the bottom one
is for draining. After draining, you fill the case with fluid until it
starts overflowing through the top fill hole; that's how you know it's
full. The service manual specs 1.6 quarts. You will need new washers
for both plugs, and a funnel (preferably with a tube) for adding fluid.
WARNING: on my old '98 Accord, I had a problem once where I drained the
tranny fluid via the bottom plug, but the FILLER BOLT HAD SEIZED. I
couldn't get it off for a while and it caused me a lot of stress. Make
sure the filler bolt comes off easily BEFORE you begin draining!
Good luck!
#102
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Re: 2006 Civic Si 3rd Gear (was: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic)
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> Now THIS I find interesting...
>
> I, too, have noticed this phenomena in 3rd. It has, on occasion, caused a
> slight grind, as I didn't get the car fully into third before letting out
> the clutch, as the notchiness (good word for it) interrupted my rythem.
>
> What are the downsides (if any) to changing to a Synthetic Tranny fluid?
> The manual is pretty clear on sticking with Honda's Tranny fluid. Would
> this affect warranty?
>
> Also, should it be done in a shop, or is it sufficient to just drain the
> fluid and add the Synth? I've never changed Tranny fluid before in any
> car. Always had it done by a shop. But it usually costs $80 or more. If
> it is relatively easy, I'll do it myself...
Joe,
There is no perceived downside to synthetic transmission fluid, besides
cost. I should warn you, however, that tranny fluid requires a very
specific viscosity and additive package, and different trannies require
different fluids. Honda uses the same MTF for nearly every vehicle they
sell, so just find one that is compatible. I did a lot of research to
find one that would be appropriate for the '06 Si, and I decided on the
SF-MTL-P ($30.20 + shipping for one gallon).
http://theoildrop.server101.com is a great resource.
Another note: after reading around on the internet, there have been
some instances where people claimed to switch to Redline MTL in their
Hondas, and then their synchros failed within 10,000 miles. Who knows
if the two are related, but it's enough to deter me from buying their
fluid.
A transmission fluid change is even easier than an oil change, since
our Sis have no serviceable tranny oil filter. There are two plugs on
the side of the transaxle: the top one is for filling, the bottom one
is for draining. After draining, you fill the case with fluid until it
starts overflowing through the top fill hole; that's how you know it's
full. The service manual specs 1.6 quarts. You will need new washers
for both plugs, and a funnel (preferably with a tube) for adding fluid.
WARNING: on my old '98 Accord, I had a problem once where I drained the
tranny fluid via the bottom plug, but the FILLER BOLT HAD SEIZED. I
couldn't get it off for a while and it caused me a lot of stress. Make
sure the filler bolt comes off easily BEFORE you begin draining!
Good luck!
#103
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Re: 2006 Civic Si 3rd Gear (was: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic)
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> Now THIS I find interesting...
>
> I, too, have noticed this phenomena in 3rd. It has, on occasion, caused a
> slight grind, as I didn't get the car fully into third before letting out
> the clutch, as the notchiness (good word for it) interrupted my rythem.
>
> What are the downsides (if any) to changing to a Synthetic Tranny fluid?
> The manual is pretty clear on sticking with Honda's Tranny fluid. Would
> this affect warranty?
>
> Also, should it be done in a shop, or is it sufficient to just drain the
> fluid and add the Synth? I've never changed Tranny fluid before in any
> car. Always had it done by a shop. But it usually costs $80 or more. If
> it is relatively easy, I'll do it myself...
Joe,
There is no perceived downside to synthetic transmission fluid, besides
cost. I should warn you, however, that tranny fluid requires a very
specific viscosity and additive package, and different trannies require
different fluids. Honda uses the same MTF for nearly every vehicle they
sell, so just find one that is compatible. I did a lot of research to
find one that would be appropriate for the '06 Si, and I decided on the
SF-MTL-P ($30.20 + shipping for one gallon).
http://theoildrop.server101.com is a great resource.
Another note: after reading around on the internet, there have been
some instances where people claimed to switch to Redline MTL in their
Hondas, and then their synchros failed within 10,000 miles. Who knows
if the two are related, but it's enough to deter me from buying their
fluid.
A transmission fluid change is even easier than an oil change, since
our Sis have no serviceable tranny oil filter. There are two plugs on
the side of the transaxle: the top one is for filling, the bottom one
is for draining. After draining, you fill the case with fluid until it
starts overflowing through the top fill hole; that's how you know it's
full. The service manual specs 1.6 quarts. You will need new washers
for both plugs, and a funnel (preferably with a tube) for adding fluid.
WARNING: on my old '98 Accord, I had a problem once where I drained the
tranny fluid via the bottom plug, but the FILLER BOLT HAD SEIZED. I
couldn't get it off for a while and it caused me a lot of stress. Make
sure the filler bolt comes off easily BEFORE you begin draining!
Good luck!
#104
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Re: 2006 Civic Si 3rd Gear (was: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic)
Joe,
I just re-read your post: changing to non-Honda fluid will not affect
warranty. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act states that a provider cannot
void the warranty just because an aftermarket part is installed, unless
it is proven without doubt that the aftermarket part directly caused
failure or malfunction due to incompatibility or incorrect
installation. It is up to the warranty provider to prove the part
caused failure; you do NOT have to defend yourself.
But rest assured; pretty much any synthetic tranny fluid is better than
Honda MTF. Even my dealership's mechanic confirmed that.
I just re-read your post: changing to non-Honda fluid will not affect
warranty. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act states that a provider cannot
void the warranty just because an aftermarket part is installed, unless
it is proven without doubt that the aftermarket part directly caused
failure or malfunction due to incompatibility or incorrect
installation. It is up to the warranty provider to prove the part
caused failure; you do NOT have to defend yourself.
But rest assured; pretty much any synthetic tranny fluid is better than
Honda MTF. Even my dealership's mechanic confirmed that.
#105
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Re: 2006 Civic Si 3rd Gear (was: What factors go into the oil life indicator: 2006 Civic)
Joe,
I just re-read your post: changing to non-Honda fluid will not affect
warranty. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act states that a provider cannot
void the warranty just because an aftermarket part is installed, unless
it is proven without doubt that the aftermarket part directly caused
failure or malfunction due to incompatibility or incorrect
installation. It is up to the warranty provider to prove the part
caused failure; you do NOT have to defend yourself.
But rest assured; pretty much any synthetic tranny fluid is better than
Honda MTF. Even my dealership's mechanic confirmed that.
I just re-read your post: changing to non-Honda fluid will not affect
warranty. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act states that a provider cannot
void the warranty just because an aftermarket part is installed, unless
it is proven without doubt that the aftermarket part directly caused
failure or malfunction due to incompatibility or incorrect
installation. It is up to the warranty provider to prove the part
caused failure; you do NOT have to defend yourself.
But rest assured; pretty much any synthetic tranny fluid is better than
Honda MTF. Even my dealership's mechanic confirmed that.