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Dave Kelsen 01-25-2004 11:44 PM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
On 1/25/2004 10:35 PM CaptainKrunch spake these words of knowledge:

> I would look into some Ritalin or Adderall.
>
> CaptainKrunch
>
>
> "JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:rn1910po1b3t1tf9tq8e9tknpmo9qm98il@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 02:36:52 GMT, "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com>
>> wrote:
>> >There is an indicator on the shift lever and one on the dash correct?
>> >Seems to me you have all the info necessary to tell you what gear your

> in.
>>
>> Is this unclear?
>>
>> They just tell me I'm in "D", I want to know if the tranny is in 1st
>> or 2nd or whatever.
>>
>> Why is it important? Same reason it is for a manual shift, but what
>> the heck, curiosity isn't a good enough reason? I'm vaguely curious
>> when the thing has shifted to overdrive-5th, and can't always tell,
>> have to bang the gas pedal and see if it downshifts again, or how far,
>> or, again, do the math. Heck, I'd like a little bell to ring on each
>> transition, when I'm in the mood for it.
>>
>> J.


Oi. As a member of the human race, I'd like to apologize for Krunch.
No excuses, just, well, sorry.

There isn't an indicator per se; I have found that it's fairly easy to
tell after a while whether you're in 4th or 5th. The other gears are as
indicated, D1, D2 and D3. But there really isn't anything to tell you
other than the tachometer.

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Age doesn't always bring wisdom. Sometimes age comes alone.

Dave Kelsen 01-25-2004 11:44 PM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
On 1/25/2004 10:35 PM CaptainKrunch spake these words of knowledge:

> I would look into some Ritalin or Adderall.
>
> CaptainKrunch
>
>
> "JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:rn1910po1b3t1tf9tq8e9tknpmo9qm98il@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 02:36:52 GMT, "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com>
>> wrote:
>> >There is an indicator on the shift lever and one on the dash correct?
>> >Seems to me you have all the info necessary to tell you what gear your

> in.
>>
>> Is this unclear?
>>
>> They just tell me I'm in "D", I want to know if the tranny is in 1st
>> or 2nd or whatever.
>>
>> Why is it important? Same reason it is for a manual shift, but what
>> the heck, curiosity isn't a good enough reason? I'm vaguely curious
>> when the thing has shifted to overdrive-5th, and can't always tell,
>> have to bang the gas pedal and see if it downshifts again, or how far,
>> or, again, do the math. Heck, I'd like a little bell to ring on each
>> transition, when I'm in the mood for it.
>>
>> J.


Oi. As a member of the human race, I'd like to apologize for Krunch.
No excuses, just, well, sorry.

There isn't an indicator per se; I have found that it's fairly easy to
tell after a while whether you're in 4th or 5th. The other gears are as
indicated, D1, D2 and D3. But there really isn't anything to tell you
other than the tachometer.

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Age doesn't always bring wisdom. Sometimes age comes alone.

Dave Kelsen 01-25-2004 11:44 PM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
On 1/25/2004 10:35 PM CaptainKrunch spake these words of knowledge:

> I would look into some Ritalin or Adderall.
>
> CaptainKrunch
>
>
> "JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:rn1910po1b3t1tf9tq8e9tknpmo9qm98il@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 02:36:52 GMT, "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com>
>> wrote:
>> >There is an indicator on the shift lever and one on the dash correct?
>> >Seems to me you have all the info necessary to tell you what gear your

> in.
>>
>> Is this unclear?
>>
>> They just tell me I'm in "D", I want to know if the tranny is in 1st
>> or 2nd or whatever.
>>
>> Why is it important? Same reason it is for a manual shift, but what
>> the heck, curiosity isn't a good enough reason? I'm vaguely curious
>> when the thing has shifted to overdrive-5th, and can't always tell,
>> have to bang the gas pedal and see if it downshifts again, or how far,
>> or, again, do the math. Heck, I'd like a little bell to ring on each
>> transition, when I'm in the mood for it.
>>
>> J.


Oi. As a member of the human race, I'd like to apologize for Krunch.
No excuses, just, well, sorry.

There isn't an indicator per se; I have found that it's fairly easy to
tell after a while whether you're in 4th or 5th. The other gears are as
indicated, D1, D2 and D3. But there really isn't anything to tell you
other than the tachometer.

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Age doesn't always bring wisdom. Sometimes age comes alone.

JXStern 01-26-2004 10:53 AM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:35:50 -0600, "Jafir Elkurd"
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:
>More effective would be monitoring the signals to the shift solenoids. I've
>never dealt with a five speed auto myself, but on the four speed Honda
>transmissions with electronic controlled (or assisted on some) shifting it
>should be fairly easy.


I'm sure it's doable. I'm just curious it's not already done, by even
Honda itself. After all, they give you a tach -- good ol' American
cars with automatics didn't even give you that. And they supply
sport-shifts in the Acura line, though just who uses them is unclear
to me. Well, maybe I'll get ambitious and find that wiring diagram,
monitor the signals, see if there's an unambiguous algorithm that
counts up and down clearly. I've barely opened the hood of my three
Honda automobiles to date -- never had to, knock on wood!

J.


JXStern 01-26-2004 10:53 AM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:35:50 -0600, "Jafir Elkurd"
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:
>More effective would be monitoring the signals to the shift solenoids. I've
>never dealt with a five speed auto myself, but on the four speed Honda
>transmissions with electronic controlled (or assisted on some) shifting it
>should be fairly easy.


I'm sure it's doable. I'm just curious it's not already done, by even
Honda itself. After all, they give you a tach -- good ol' American
cars with automatics didn't even give you that. And they supply
sport-shifts in the Acura line, though just who uses them is unclear
to me. Well, maybe I'll get ambitious and find that wiring diagram,
monitor the signals, see if there's an unambiguous algorithm that
counts up and down clearly. I've barely opened the hood of my three
Honda automobiles to date -- never had to, knock on wood!

J.


JXStern 01-26-2004 10:53 AM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:35:50 -0600, "Jafir Elkurd"
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:
>More effective would be monitoring the signals to the shift solenoids. I've
>never dealt with a five speed auto myself, but on the four speed Honda
>transmissions with electronic controlled (or assisted on some) shifting it
>should be fairly easy.


I'm sure it's doable. I'm just curious it's not already done, by even
Honda itself. After all, they give you a tach -- good ol' American
cars with automatics didn't even give you that. And they supply
sport-shifts in the Acura line, though just who uses them is unclear
to me. Well, maybe I'll get ambitious and find that wiring diagram,
monitor the signals, see if there's an unambiguous algorithm that
counts up and down clearly. I've barely opened the hood of my three
Honda automobiles to date -- never had to, knock on wood!

J.


JXStern 01-26-2004 10:53 AM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:35:50 -0600, "Jafir Elkurd"
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:
>More effective would be monitoring the signals to the shift solenoids. I've
>never dealt with a five speed auto myself, but on the four speed Honda
>transmissions with electronic controlled (or assisted on some) shifting it
>should be fairly easy.


I'm sure it's doable. I'm just curious it's not already done, by even
Honda itself. After all, they give you a tach -- good ol' American
cars with automatics didn't even give you that. And they supply
sport-shifts in the Acura line, though just who uses them is unclear
to me. Well, maybe I'll get ambitious and find that wiring diagram,
monitor the signals, see if there's an unambiguous algorithm that
counts up and down clearly. I've barely opened the hood of my three
Honda automobiles to date -- never had to, knock on wood!

J.


T. Nelson 01-26-2004 12:26 PM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
In article <70u810pll7c6m4qrueuh9dqkp8sgsaqr77@4ax.com>, JXStern
<JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:

> I have a nice, new Accord EX4 sedan with the automatic, which I am
> very happy with, but would like one thing -- some indication of which
> gear it is in!
>
> I can look at the tach and guess, do some math in my head from the
> mph, but a simple indicator would be much better.
>
> Anyone else have this idea? Is there a product available? Any way to
> trick out the engine computer to use the existing display for current
> gear instead of shift handle position (which is clear enough without
> displaying it on the dash)?
>
> Thanx.
>
> J.


There is no way for you to determine what gear you are in unless you trade
your car in an Accord with a manual transmission. It's really not
important--there are more important things to worry about than this
subject.

T. Nelson 01-26-2004 12:26 PM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
In article <70u810pll7c6m4qrueuh9dqkp8sgsaqr77@4ax.com>, JXStern
<JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:

> I have a nice, new Accord EX4 sedan with the automatic, which I am
> very happy with, but would like one thing -- some indication of which
> gear it is in!
>
> I can look at the tach and guess, do some math in my head from the
> mph, but a simple indicator would be much better.
>
> Anyone else have this idea? Is there a product available? Any way to
> trick out the engine computer to use the existing display for current
> gear instead of shift handle position (which is clear enough without
> displaying it on the dash)?
>
> Thanx.
>
> J.


There is no way for you to determine what gear you are in unless you trade
your car in an Accord with a manual transmission. It's really not
important--there are more important things to worry about than this
subject.

T. Nelson 01-26-2004 12:26 PM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
In article <70u810pll7c6m4qrueuh9dqkp8sgsaqr77@4ax.com>, JXStern
<JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:

> I have a nice, new Accord EX4 sedan with the automatic, which I am
> very happy with, but would like one thing -- some indication of which
> gear it is in!
>
> I can look at the tach and guess, do some math in my head from the
> mph, but a simple indicator would be much better.
>
> Anyone else have this idea? Is there a product available? Any way to
> trick out the engine computer to use the existing display for current
> gear instead of shift handle position (which is clear enough without
> displaying it on the dash)?
>
> Thanx.
>
> J.


There is no way for you to determine what gear you are in unless you trade
your car in an Accord with a manual transmission. It's really not
important--there are more important things to worry about than this
subject.

T. Nelson 01-26-2004 12:26 PM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
In article <70u810pll7c6m4qrueuh9dqkp8sgsaqr77@4ax.com>, JXStern
<JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:

> I have a nice, new Accord EX4 sedan with the automatic, which I am
> very happy with, but would like one thing -- some indication of which
> gear it is in!
>
> I can look at the tach and guess, do some math in my head from the
> mph, but a simple indicator would be much better.
>
> Anyone else have this idea? Is there a product available? Any way to
> trick out the engine computer to use the existing display for current
> gear instead of shift handle position (which is clear enough without
> displaying it on the dash)?
>
> Thanx.
>
> J.


There is no way for you to determine what gear you are in unless you trade
your car in an Accord with a manual transmission. It's really not
important--there are more important things to worry about than this
subject.

Jonathan Upright 01-26-2004 12:34 PM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
It is easy. If you have a 4-speed auto with overdrive, here's all you do.
Put it in D4 and go the nearest intersection where you can begin from a
complete stop. When you initially start, the tranny will be in first gear.
Press the gas pedal about ½ way to the floor while accelerating for best
results. You'll notice the tach will climb and then suddenly drop. That's
when it's shifting. The tranny will never skip a gear, so everytime the
tach drops from a climb, count up one gear. When you get to 55MPH, let off
the gas enough to where you maintain a constant 55MPH. The tach should be
(or drop to) somewhere between 2k-3k RPM. That should be overdrive. On
average, an Acord will shift gears between 3000 and 3500RPM when driven
normally. All you have to do is count. Based on my wife's '88 Accord,
here's a rough-estimate "cheat-sheet": (Using the method I mentioned above)
0-20MPH = first; 20-40 = second; 40-50 = 3rd; above 50 = 4th, and whenever
you let off the gas to "cruise", or at about 65MPH, it will go into
overdrive. The lowest speed I've ever seen it go into overdrive is at about
45MPH. Any lower, it should be in 4th if you're "cruising", unless you're
cruising at 35MPH or less...then it should be in 3rd.

Hope this helps...

Jonathan

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:70u810pll7c6m4qrueuh9dqkp8sgsaqr77@4ax.com...
> I have a nice, new Accord EX4 sedan with the automatic, which I am
> very happy with, but would like one thing -- some indication of which
> gear it is in!
>
> I can look at the tach and guess, do some math in my head from the
> mph, but a simple indicator would be much better.
>
> Anyone else have this idea? Is there a product available? Any way to
> trick out the engine computer to use the existing display for current
> gear instead of shift handle position (which is clear enough without
> displaying it on the dash)?
>
> Thanx.
>
> J.
>




Jonathan Upright 01-26-2004 12:34 PM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
It is easy. If you have a 4-speed auto with overdrive, here's all you do.
Put it in D4 and go the nearest intersection where you can begin from a
complete stop. When you initially start, the tranny will be in first gear.
Press the gas pedal about ½ way to the floor while accelerating for best
results. You'll notice the tach will climb and then suddenly drop. That's
when it's shifting. The tranny will never skip a gear, so everytime the
tach drops from a climb, count up one gear. When you get to 55MPH, let off
the gas enough to where you maintain a constant 55MPH. The tach should be
(or drop to) somewhere between 2k-3k RPM. That should be overdrive. On
average, an Acord will shift gears between 3000 and 3500RPM when driven
normally. All you have to do is count. Based on my wife's '88 Accord,
here's a rough-estimate "cheat-sheet": (Using the method I mentioned above)
0-20MPH = first; 20-40 = second; 40-50 = 3rd; above 50 = 4th, and whenever
you let off the gas to "cruise", or at about 65MPH, it will go into
overdrive. The lowest speed I've ever seen it go into overdrive is at about
45MPH. Any lower, it should be in 4th if you're "cruising", unless you're
cruising at 35MPH or less...then it should be in 3rd.

Hope this helps...

Jonathan

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:70u810pll7c6m4qrueuh9dqkp8sgsaqr77@4ax.com...
> I have a nice, new Accord EX4 sedan with the automatic, which I am
> very happy with, but would like one thing -- some indication of which
> gear it is in!
>
> I can look at the tach and guess, do some math in my head from the
> mph, but a simple indicator would be much better.
>
> Anyone else have this idea? Is there a product available? Any way to
> trick out the engine computer to use the existing display for current
> gear instead of shift handle position (which is clear enough without
> displaying it on the dash)?
>
> Thanx.
>
> J.
>




Jonathan Upright 01-26-2004 12:34 PM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
It is easy. If you have a 4-speed auto with overdrive, here's all you do.
Put it in D4 and go the nearest intersection where you can begin from a
complete stop. When you initially start, the tranny will be in first gear.
Press the gas pedal about ½ way to the floor while accelerating for best
results. You'll notice the tach will climb and then suddenly drop. That's
when it's shifting. The tranny will never skip a gear, so everytime the
tach drops from a climb, count up one gear. When you get to 55MPH, let off
the gas enough to where you maintain a constant 55MPH. The tach should be
(or drop to) somewhere between 2k-3k RPM. That should be overdrive. On
average, an Acord will shift gears between 3000 and 3500RPM when driven
normally. All you have to do is count. Based on my wife's '88 Accord,
here's a rough-estimate "cheat-sheet": (Using the method I mentioned above)
0-20MPH = first; 20-40 = second; 40-50 = 3rd; above 50 = 4th, and whenever
you let off the gas to "cruise", or at about 65MPH, it will go into
overdrive. The lowest speed I've ever seen it go into overdrive is at about
45MPH. Any lower, it should be in 4th if you're "cruising", unless you're
cruising at 35MPH or less...then it should be in 3rd.

Hope this helps...

Jonathan

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:70u810pll7c6m4qrueuh9dqkp8sgsaqr77@4ax.com...
> I have a nice, new Accord EX4 sedan with the automatic, which I am
> very happy with, but would like one thing -- some indication of which
> gear it is in!
>
> I can look at the tach and guess, do some math in my head from the
> mph, but a simple indicator would be much better.
>
> Anyone else have this idea? Is there a product available? Any way to
> trick out the engine computer to use the existing display for current
> gear instead of shift handle position (which is clear enough without
> displaying it on the dash)?
>
> Thanx.
>
> J.
>




Jonathan Upright 01-26-2004 12:34 PM

Re: What gear am I in?
 
It is easy. If you have a 4-speed auto with overdrive, here's all you do.
Put it in D4 and go the nearest intersection where you can begin from a
complete stop. When you initially start, the tranny will be in first gear.
Press the gas pedal about ½ way to the floor while accelerating for best
results. You'll notice the tach will climb and then suddenly drop. That's
when it's shifting. The tranny will never skip a gear, so everytime the
tach drops from a climb, count up one gear. When you get to 55MPH, let off
the gas enough to where you maintain a constant 55MPH. The tach should be
(or drop to) somewhere between 2k-3k RPM. That should be overdrive. On
average, an Acord will shift gears between 3000 and 3500RPM when driven
normally. All you have to do is count. Based on my wife's '88 Accord,
here's a rough-estimate "cheat-sheet": (Using the method I mentioned above)
0-20MPH = first; 20-40 = second; 40-50 = 3rd; above 50 = 4th, and whenever
you let off the gas to "cruise", or at about 65MPH, it will go into
overdrive. The lowest speed I've ever seen it go into overdrive is at about
45MPH. Any lower, it should be in 4th if you're "cruising", unless you're
cruising at 35MPH or less...then it should be in 3rd.

Hope this helps...

Jonathan

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:70u810pll7c6m4qrueuh9dqkp8sgsaqr77@4ax.com...
> I have a nice, new Accord EX4 sedan with the automatic, which I am
> very happy with, but would like one thing -- some indication of which
> gear it is in!
>
> I can look at the tach and guess, do some math in my head from the
> mph, but a simple indicator would be much better.
>
> Anyone else have this idea? Is there a product available? Any way to
> trick out the engine computer to use the existing display for current
> gear instead of shift handle position (which is clear enough without
> displaying it on the dash)?
>
> Thanx.
>
> J.
>





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