mopa

Well, what does it mean a person i using when their car gets to 50
degrees, my girls car gets very, very cold. She must be using R12
right? as I said her car is a 2002 Mazda Millennium.

I am wondering because my car is a 1993 Honda Civic, I am sure it is
setup to use R12, as the women I bought my car from didn't know
anything even about cars, I know she didn't convert anything over. The
only problem is the A/C compressor I bought the guy told me to go with
R12, as its better when its very hot and humit outside, and even sold
me the new style R12, because it has 80% less CFC's comparied to the
first style of R12, and the jackass at the shop who installed my belt
put in 134A, even though I told him I had the R12, but he told me not
to put it in.

I think the guy at the shop screwed up my car. It doesn't get cold, and
I am pretty sure its for a R12, but honestly, how can you even tell
what setup you have?

Thanks!

Happy 4th of July

mopa

Well, what does it mean a person i using when their car gets to 50
degrees, my girls car gets very, very cold. She must be using R12
right? as I said her car is a 2002 Mazda Millennium.

I am wondering because my car is a 1993 Honda Civic, I am sure it is
setup to use R12, as the women I bought my car from didn't know
anything even about cars, I know she didn't convert anything over. The
only problem is the A/C compressor I bought the guy told me to go with
R12, as its better when its very hot and humit outside, and even sold
me the new style R12, because it has 80% less CFC's comparied to the
first style of R12, and the jackass at the shop who installed my belt
put in 134A, even though I told him I had the R12, but he told me not
to put it in.

I think the guy at the shop screwed up my car. It doesn't get cold, and
I am pretty sure its for a R12, but honestly, how can you even tell
what setup you have?

Thanks!

Happy 4th of July

Michael Pardee

"mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120495596.639908.94550@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Well, what does it mean a person i using when their car gets to 50
> degrees, my girls car gets very, very cold. She must be using R12
> right? as I said her car is a 2002 Mazda Millennium.
>
> I am wondering because my car is a 1993 Honda Civic, I am sure it is
> setup to use R12, as the women I bought my car from didn't know
> anything even about cars, I know she didn't convert anything over. The
> only problem is the A/C compressor I bought the guy told me to go with
> R12, as its better when its very hot and humit outside, and even sold
> me the new style R12, because it has 80% less CFC's comparied to the
> first style of R12, and the jackass at the shop who installed my belt
> put in 134A, even though I told him I had the R12, but he told me not
> to put it in.
>
> I think the guy at the shop screwed up my car. It doesn't get cold, and
> I am pretty sure its for a R12, but honestly, how can you even tell
> what setup you have?
>
> Thanks!
>
The 02 Mazda gets so cold because the system was designed for R134a, and
yours doesn't get as cold because it was designed for R12 and is running
R134a as a substitute. Think of it as being like running a different fuel in
your engine - diesel will work fine in a diesel engine but will do very
poorly in your engine, and vice-versa.

I'm sure your '93 was R12 originally, just like my daughter's '93. The
current refrigerant details should be spelled out on one of those stickers
under the hood, and that should have been changed when the system was
converted. Many DIY conversions ignore that important step.

Mike

Michael Pardee

"mopa" <buttakid@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120495596.639908.94550@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Well, what does it mean a person i using when their car gets to 50
> degrees, my girls car gets very, very cold. She must be using R12
> right? as I said her car is a 2002 Mazda Millennium.
>
> I am wondering because my car is a 1993 Honda Civic, I am sure it is
> setup to use R12, as the women I bought my car from didn't know
> anything even about cars, I know she didn't convert anything over. The
> only problem is the A/C compressor I bought the guy told me to go with
> R12, as its better when its very hot and humit outside, and even sold
> me the new style R12, because it has 80% less CFC's comparied to the
> first style of R12, and the jackass at the shop who installed my belt
> put in 134A, even though I told him I had the R12, but he told me not
> to put it in.
>
> I think the guy at the shop screwed up my car. It doesn't get cold, and
> I am pretty sure its for a R12, but honestly, how can you even tell
> what setup you have?
>
> Thanks!
>
The 02 Mazda gets so cold because the system was designed for R134a, and
yours doesn't get as cold because it was designed for R12 and is running
R134a as a substitute. Think of it as being like running a different fuel in
your engine - diesel will work fine in a diesel engine but will do very
poorly in your engine, and vice-versa.

I'm sure your '93 was R12 originally, just like my daughter's '93. The
current refrigerant details should be spelled out on one of those stickers
under the hood, and that should have been changed when the system was
converted. Many DIY conversions ignore that important step.

Mike

mopa

thanks mike, you been very helpful

mopa

thanks mike, you been very helpful