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harry 08-24-2006 09:27 PM

will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 
I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan
to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local).
My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is
terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but
it is not a real saving in gas to me.

Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of
driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy"
when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one
adult passenger was my impression with Civic.

This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen
daughter for local soccer practice.

What is your opinion?
I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is
considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle
with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office..



Joe LaVigne 08-25-2006 01:39 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:27:47 -0400, harry wrote:

> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan
> to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local).
> My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is
> terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but
> it is not a real saving in gas to me.
>
> Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of
> driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy"
> when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one
> adult passenger was my impression with Civic.
>
> This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen
> daughter for local soccer practice.
>
> What is your opinion?
> I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is
> considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle
> with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office..


The civic will easily handle the load. Get the Sedan, and you'll be plenty
happy with it. They are bigger than they used to be, with better
suspensions and a damned peppy engine.

--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/25/2006 1:38:07 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

When you choke a smurf, what color does it turn?

Joe LaVigne 08-25-2006 01:39 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:27:47 -0400, harry wrote:

> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan
> to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local).
> My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is
> terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but
> it is not a real saving in gas to me.
>
> Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of
> driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy"
> when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one
> adult passenger was my impression with Civic.
>
> This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen
> daughter for local soccer practice.
>
> What is your opinion?
> I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is
> considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle
> with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office..


The civic will easily handle the load. Get the Sedan, and you'll be plenty
happy with it. They are bigger than they used to be, with better
suspensions and a damned peppy engine.

--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/25/2006 1:38:07 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

When you choke a smurf, what color does it turn?

Joe LaVigne 08-25-2006 01:39 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:27:47 -0400, harry wrote:

> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan
> to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local).
> My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is
> terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but
> it is not a real saving in gas to me.
>
> Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of
> driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy"
> when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one
> adult passenger was my impression with Civic.
>
> This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen
> daughter for local soccer practice.
>
> What is your opinion?
> I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is
> considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle
> with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office..


The civic will easily handle the load. Get the Sedan, and you'll be plenty
happy with it. They are bigger than they used to be, with better
suspensions and a damned peppy engine.

--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/25/2006 1:38:07 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

When you choke a smurf, what color does it turn?

Joe LaVigne 08-25-2006 01:39 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:27:47 -0400, harry wrote:

> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan
> to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local).
> My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is
> terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but
> it is not a real saving in gas to me.
>
> Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of
> driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy"
> when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one
> adult passenger was my impression with Civic.
>
> This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen
> daughter for local soccer practice.
>
> What is your opinion?
> I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is
> considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle
> with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office..


The civic will easily handle the load. Get the Sedan, and you'll be plenty
happy with it. They are bigger than they used to be, with better
suspensions and a damned peppy engine.

--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/25/2006 1:38:07 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

When you choke a smurf, what color does it turn?

bobzee1@gmail.com 08-25-2006 07:23 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 

harry wrote:

> What is your opinion?
> I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is
> considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle
> with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office..



My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or
camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a
v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord.

My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny
is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. If I am
running a little late and i need to make a banzai blast (75mph min. and
occasionally touching 100mph) to work, I will get at least 32 mpg.
This is with the A/C on. I never cruise any slower than 75 and with
that, I am able to obtain 36 mpg. I am currently at an average of 34.2
mpg for the last 9251.4 miles.

I got a little sidetracked with the mileage thing, but that seems to be
a fairly hot topic these days. In all seriousness, test drive a 4
cylinder accord. You will be very surprised at how
'un-four-cylinder-like' this engine is. Nothing against the civic (my
wife has an '05 Civic Si), but the engine just isn't as smooth.

has something to do with the extra balance shafts and stuff...

bob z.


bobzee1@gmail.com 08-25-2006 07:23 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 

harry wrote:

> What is your opinion?
> I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is
> considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle
> with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office..



My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or
camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a
v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord.

My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny
is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. If I am
running a little late and i need to make a banzai blast (75mph min. and
occasionally touching 100mph) to work, I will get at least 32 mpg.
This is with the A/C on. I never cruise any slower than 75 and with
that, I am able to obtain 36 mpg. I am currently at an average of 34.2
mpg for the last 9251.4 miles.

I got a little sidetracked with the mileage thing, but that seems to be
a fairly hot topic these days. In all seriousness, test drive a 4
cylinder accord. You will be very surprised at how
'un-four-cylinder-like' this engine is. Nothing against the civic (my
wife has an '05 Civic Si), but the engine just isn't as smooth.

has something to do with the extra balance shafts and stuff...

bob z.


bobzee1@gmail.com 08-25-2006 07:23 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 

harry wrote:

> What is your opinion?
> I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is
> considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle
> with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office..



My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or
camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a
v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord.

My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny
is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. If I am
running a little late and i need to make a banzai blast (75mph min. and
occasionally touching 100mph) to work, I will get at least 32 mpg.
This is with the A/C on. I never cruise any slower than 75 and with
that, I am able to obtain 36 mpg. I am currently at an average of 34.2
mpg for the last 9251.4 miles.

I got a little sidetracked with the mileage thing, but that seems to be
a fairly hot topic these days. In all seriousness, test drive a 4
cylinder accord. You will be very surprised at how
'un-four-cylinder-like' this engine is. Nothing against the civic (my
wife has an '05 Civic Si), but the engine just isn't as smooth.

has something to do with the extra balance shafts and stuff...

bob z.


bobzee1@gmail.com 08-25-2006 07:23 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 

harry wrote:

> What is your opinion?
> I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is
> considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle
> with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office..



My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or
camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a
v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord.

My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny
is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. If I am
running a little late and i need to make a banzai blast (75mph min. and
occasionally touching 100mph) to work, I will get at least 32 mpg.
This is with the A/C on. I never cruise any slower than 75 and with
that, I am able to obtain 36 mpg. I am currently at an average of 34.2
mpg for the last 9251.4 miles.

I got a little sidetracked with the mileage thing, but that seems to be
a fairly hot topic these days. In all seriousness, test drive a 4
cylinder accord. You will be very surprised at how
'un-four-cylinder-like' this engine is. Nothing against the civic (my
wife has an '05 Civic Si), but the engine just isn't as smooth.

has something to do with the extra balance shafts and stuff...

bob z.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 08-25-2006 07:41 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 
In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
bobzee1@gmail.com wrote:

> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or
> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a
> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord.
>
> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny
> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute.


I agree completely.

I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual
trans. The new ones are even better.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 08-25-2006 07:41 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 
In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
bobzee1@gmail.com wrote:

> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or
> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a
> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord.
>
> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny
> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute.


I agree completely.

I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual
trans. The new ones are even better.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 08-25-2006 07:41 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 
In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
bobzee1@gmail.com wrote:

> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or
> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a
> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord.
>
> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny
> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute.


I agree completely.

I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual
trans. The new ones are even better.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 08-25-2006 07:41 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 
In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
bobzee1@gmail.com wrote:

> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or
> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a
> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord.
>
> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny
> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute.


I agree completely.

I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual
trans. The new ones are even better.


BWBrown 08-25-2006 08:35 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 
I just bought an Accord SE with the 4 cylinder, 5 speed. It's got tons of
power and is smooth as anything. The great part is how easy it is on gas for
the performance. It has a plush-enough ride and still feels sporty - you
sometimes forget that there is a back seat in it. Honda has done a great job
with this vehicle and, I suspect, the Civic is a super car too on a smaller
scale. You can't go wrong with a Honda.
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-ECAC68.07410325082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
> In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
> bobzee1@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or
>> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a
>> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord.
>>
>> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny
>> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute.

>
> I agree completely.
>
> I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual
> trans. The new ones are even better.
>




BWBrown 08-25-2006 08:35 AM

Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
 
I just bought an Accord SE with the 4 cylinder, 5 speed. It's got tons of
power and is smooth as anything. The great part is how easy it is on gas for
the performance. It has a plush-enough ride and still feels sporty - you
sometimes forget that there is a back seat in it. Honda has done a great job
with this vehicle and, I suspect, the Civic is a super car too on a smaller
scale. You can't go wrong with a Honda.
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-ECAC68.07410325082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
> In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
> bobzee1@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or
>> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a
>> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord.
>>
>> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny
>> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute.

>
> I agree completely.
>
> I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual
> trans. The new ones are even better.
>





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