will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan
to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but it is not a real saving in gas to me. Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy" when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one adult passenger was my impression with Civic. This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen daughter for local soccer practice. What is your opinion? I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:27:47 -0400, harry wrote:
> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan > to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). > My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is > terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but > it is not a real saving in gas to me. > > Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of > driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy" > when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one > adult passenger was my impression with Civic. > > This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen > daughter for local soccer practice. > > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle > with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. The civic will easily handle the load. Get the Sedan, and you'll be plenty happy with it. They are bigger than they used to be, with better suspensions and a damned peppy engine. -- Joseph M. LaVigne jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/25/2006 1:38:07 AM Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/ When you choke a smurf, what color does it turn? |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:27:47 -0400, harry wrote:
> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan > to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). > My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is > terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but > it is not a real saving in gas to me. > > Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of > driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy" > when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one > adult passenger was my impression with Civic. > > This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen > daughter for local soccer practice. > > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle > with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. The civic will easily handle the load. Get the Sedan, and you'll be plenty happy with it. They are bigger than they used to be, with better suspensions and a damned peppy engine. -- Joseph M. LaVigne jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/25/2006 1:38:07 AM Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/ When you choke a smurf, what color does it turn? |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:27:47 -0400, harry wrote:
> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan > to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). > My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is > terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but > it is not a real saving in gas to me. > > Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of > driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy" > when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one > adult passenger was my impression with Civic. > > This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen > daughter for local soccer practice. > > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle > with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. The civic will easily handle the load. Get the Sedan, and you'll be plenty happy with it. They are bigger than they used to be, with better suspensions and a damned peppy engine. -- Joseph M. LaVigne jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/25/2006 1:38:07 AM Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/ When you choke a smurf, what color does it turn? |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:27:47 -0400, harry wrote:
> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan > to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). > My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is > terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but > it is not a real saving in gas to me. > > Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of > driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy" > when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one > adult passenger was my impression with Civic. > > This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen > daughter for local soccer practice. > > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle > with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. The civic will easily handle the load. Get the Sedan, and you'll be plenty happy with it. They are bigger than they used to be, with better suspensions and a damned peppy engine. -- Joseph M. LaVigne jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/25/2006 1:38:07 AM Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/ When you choke a smurf, what color does it turn? |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote: > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle > with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. If I am running a little late and i need to make a banzai blast (75mph min. and occasionally touching 100mph) to work, I will get at least 32 mpg. This is with the A/C on. I never cruise any slower than 75 and with that, I am able to obtain 36 mpg. I am currently at an average of 34.2 mpg for the last 9251.4 miles. I got a little sidetracked with the mileage thing, but that seems to be a fairly hot topic these days. In all seriousness, test drive a 4 cylinder accord. You will be very surprised at how 'un-four-cylinder-like' this engine is. Nothing against the civic (my wife has an '05 Civic Si), but the engine just isn't as smooth. has something to do with the extra balance shafts and stuff... bob z. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote: > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle > with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. If I am running a little late and i need to make a banzai blast (75mph min. and occasionally touching 100mph) to work, I will get at least 32 mpg. This is with the A/C on. I never cruise any slower than 75 and with that, I am able to obtain 36 mpg. I am currently at an average of 34.2 mpg for the last 9251.4 miles. I got a little sidetracked with the mileage thing, but that seems to be a fairly hot topic these days. In all seriousness, test drive a 4 cylinder accord. You will be very surprised at how 'un-four-cylinder-like' this engine is. Nothing against the civic (my wife has an '05 Civic Si), but the engine just isn't as smooth. has something to do with the extra balance shafts and stuff... bob z. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote: > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle > with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. If I am running a little late and i need to make a banzai blast (75mph min. and occasionally touching 100mph) to work, I will get at least 32 mpg. This is with the A/C on. I never cruise any slower than 75 and with that, I am able to obtain 36 mpg. I am currently at an average of 34.2 mpg for the last 9251.4 miles. I got a little sidetracked with the mileage thing, but that seems to be a fairly hot topic these days. In all seriousness, test drive a 4 cylinder accord. You will be very surprised at how 'un-four-cylinder-like' this engine is. Nothing against the civic (my wife has an '05 Civic Si), but the engine just isn't as smooth. has something to do with the extra balance shafts and stuff... bob z. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote: > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle > with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. If I am running a little late and i need to make a banzai blast (75mph min. and occasionally touching 100mph) to work, I will get at least 32 mpg. This is with the A/C on. I never cruise any slower than 75 and with that, I am able to obtain 36 mpg. I am currently at an average of 34.2 mpg for the last 9251.4 miles. I got a little sidetracked with the mileage thing, but that seems to be a fairly hot topic these days. In all seriousness, test drive a 4 cylinder accord. You will be very surprised at how 'un-four-cylinder-like' this engine is. Nothing against the civic (my wife has an '05 Civic Si), but the engine just isn't as smooth. has something to do with the extra balance shafts and stuff... bob z. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: > My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or > camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a > v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. > > My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny > is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. I agree completely. I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual trans. The new ones are even better. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: > My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or > camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a > v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. > > My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny > is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. I agree completely. I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual trans. The new ones are even better. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: > My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or > camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a > v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. > > My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny > is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. I agree completely. I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual trans. The new ones are even better. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: > My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or > camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a > v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. > > My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny > is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. I agree completely. I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual trans. The new ones are even better. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
I just bought an Accord SE with the 4 cylinder, 5 speed. It's got tons of
power and is smooth as anything. The great part is how easy it is on gas for the performance. It has a plush-enough ride and still feels sporty - you sometimes forget that there is a back seat in it. Honda has done a great job with this vehicle and, I suspect, the Civic is a super car too on a smaller scale. You can't go wrong with a Honda. "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-ECAC68.07410325082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com... > In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>, > bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: > >> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or >> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a >> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. >> >> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny >> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. > > I agree completely. > > I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual > trans. The new ones are even better. > |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
I just bought an Accord SE with the 4 cylinder, 5 speed. It's got tons of
power and is smooth as anything. The great part is how easy it is on gas for the performance. It has a plush-enough ride and still feels sporty - you sometimes forget that there is a back seat in it. Honda has done a great job with this vehicle and, I suspect, the Civic is a super car too on a smaller scale. You can't go wrong with a Honda. "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-ECAC68.07410325082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com... > In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>, > bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: > >> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or >> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a >> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. >> >> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny >> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. > > I agree completely. > > I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual > trans. The new ones are even better. > |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
I just bought an Accord SE with the 4 cylinder, 5 speed. It's got tons of
power and is smooth as anything. The great part is how easy it is on gas for the performance. It has a plush-enough ride and still feels sporty - you sometimes forget that there is a back seat in it. Honda has done a great job with this vehicle and, I suspect, the Civic is a super car too on a smaller scale. You can't go wrong with a Honda. "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-ECAC68.07410325082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com... > In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>, > bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: > >> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or >> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a >> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. >> >> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny >> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. > > I agree completely. > > I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual > trans. The new ones are even better. > |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
I just bought an Accord SE with the 4 cylinder, 5 speed. It's got tons of
power and is smooth as anything. The great part is how easy it is on gas for the performance. It has a plush-enough ride and still feels sporty - you sometimes forget that there is a back seat in it. Honda has done a great job with this vehicle and, I suspect, the Civic is a super car too on a smaller scale. You can't go wrong with a Honda. "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-ECAC68.07410325082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com... > In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>, > bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: > >> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or >> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a >> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. >> >> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny >> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. > > I agree completely. > > I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual > trans. The new ones are even better. > |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
My opinion on the V6 Accord differs from yours. I've driven 2003-2005 4
cyl Accords and they do move out nicely(and I take your word on the mileage since the 4 cyl's weren't mine so I didn't track mileage). But, good as the 4 cyl is, the V6 is better overall in my experience. The acceleration is noticeably better both at low and high speeds (and you don't have to wind up the engine as much to do this), and my mileage over frequent 275-300 trips(95% highway at a steady 70 mph) gets me a consistent 32 mpg. Mileage not as good as the 4 cyl, acceleration better. To me this is a good trade off. Others may differ. Ken bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: > harry wrote: > > >>What is your opinion? >>I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is >>considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle >>with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. > > > > My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or > camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a > v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. > > My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny > is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. If I am > running a little late and i need to make a banzai blast (75mph min. and > occasionally touching 100mph) to work, I will get at least 32 mpg. > This is with the A/C on. I never cruise any slower than 75 and with > that, I am able to obtain 36 mpg. I am currently at an average of 34.2 > mpg for the last 9251.4 miles. > > I got a little sidetracked with the mileage thing, but that seems to be > a fairly hot topic these days. In all seriousness, test drive a 4 > cylinder accord. You will be very surprised at how > 'un-four-cylinder-like' this engine is. Nothing against the civic (my > wife has an '05 Civic Si), but the engine just isn't as smooth. > > has something to do with the extra balance shafts and stuff... > > bob z. > |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
My opinion on the V6 Accord differs from yours. I've driven 2003-2005 4
cyl Accords and they do move out nicely(and I take your word on the mileage since the 4 cyl's weren't mine so I didn't track mileage). But, good as the 4 cyl is, the V6 is better overall in my experience. The acceleration is noticeably better both at low and high speeds (and you don't have to wind up the engine as much to do this), and my mileage over frequent 275-300 trips(95% highway at a steady 70 mph) gets me a consistent 32 mpg. Mileage not as good as the 4 cyl, acceleration better. To me this is a good trade off. Others may differ. Ken bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: > harry wrote: > > >>What is your opinion? >>I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is >>considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle >>with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. > > > > My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or > camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a > v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. > > My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny > is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. If I am > running a little late and i need to make a banzai blast (75mph min. and > occasionally touching 100mph) to work, I will get at least 32 mpg. > This is with the A/C on. I never cruise any slower than 75 and with > that, I am able to obtain 36 mpg. I am currently at an average of 34.2 > mpg for the last 9251.4 miles. > > I got a little sidetracked with the mileage thing, but that seems to be > a fairly hot topic these days. In all seriousness, test drive a 4 > cylinder accord. You will be very surprised at how > 'un-four-cylinder-like' this engine is. Nothing against the civic (my > wife has an '05 Civic Si), but the engine just isn't as smooth. > > has something to do with the extra balance shafts and stuff... > > bob z. > |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
My opinion on the V6 Accord differs from yours. I've driven 2003-2005 4
cyl Accords and they do move out nicely(and I take your word on the mileage since the 4 cyl's weren't mine so I didn't track mileage). But, good as the 4 cyl is, the V6 is better overall in my experience. The acceleration is noticeably better both at low and high speeds (and you don't have to wind up the engine as much to do this), and my mileage over frequent 275-300 trips(95% highway at a steady 70 mph) gets me a consistent 32 mpg. Mileage not as good as the 4 cyl, acceleration better. To me this is a good trade off. Others may differ. Ken bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: > harry wrote: > > >>What is your opinion? >>I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is >>considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle >>with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. > > > > My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or > camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a > v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. > > My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny > is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. If I am > running a little late and i need to make a banzai blast (75mph min. and > occasionally touching 100mph) to work, I will get at least 32 mpg. > This is with the A/C on. I never cruise any slower than 75 and with > that, I am able to obtain 36 mpg. I am currently at an average of 34.2 > mpg for the last 9251.4 miles. > > I got a little sidetracked with the mileage thing, but that seems to be > a fairly hot topic these days. In all seriousness, test drive a 4 > cylinder accord. You will be very surprised at how > 'un-four-cylinder-like' this engine is. Nothing against the civic (my > wife has an '05 Civic Si), but the engine just isn't as smooth. > > has something to do with the extra balance shafts and stuff... > > bob z. > |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
My opinion on the V6 Accord differs from yours. I've driven 2003-2005 4
cyl Accords and they do move out nicely(and I take your word on the mileage since the 4 cyl's weren't mine so I didn't track mileage). But, good as the 4 cyl is, the V6 is better overall in my experience. The acceleration is noticeably better both at low and high speeds (and you don't have to wind up the engine as much to do this), and my mileage over frequent 275-300 trips(95% highway at a steady 70 mph) gets me a consistent 32 mpg. Mileage not as good as the 4 cyl, acceleration better. To me this is a good trade off. Others may differ. Ken bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: > harry wrote: > > >>What is your opinion? >>I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is >>considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle >>with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. > > > > My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or > camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a > v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. > > My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny > is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. If I am > running a little late and i need to make a banzai blast (75mph min. and > occasionally touching 100mph) to work, I will get at least 32 mpg. > This is with the A/C on. I never cruise any slower than 75 and with > that, I am able to obtain 36 mpg. I am currently at an average of 34.2 > mpg for the last 9251.4 miles. > > I got a little sidetracked with the mileage thing, but that seems to be > a fairly hot topic these days. In all seriousness, test drive a 4 > cylinder accord. You will be very surprised at how > 'un-four-cylinder-like' this engine is. Nothing against the civic (my > wife has an '05 Civic Si), but the engine just isn't as smooth. > > has something to do with the extra balance shafts and stuff... > > bob z. > |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote:
> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan > to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). > My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is > terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but > it is not a real saving in gas to me. > > Civic should be adequate but they are selling for top dollar right now. A 4 cylinder Accord is a far better deal. Also pays to test drive a 4 cylinder Toyota Camry. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote:
> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan > to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). > My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is > terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but > it is not a real saving in gas to me. > > Civic should be adequate but they are selling for top dollar right now. A 4 cylinder Accord is a far better deal. Also pays to test drive a 4 cylinder Toyota Camry. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote:
> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan > to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). > My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is > terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but > it is not a real saving in gas to me. > > Civic should be adequate but they are selling for top dollar right now. A 4 cylinder Accord is a far better deal. Also pays to test drive a 4 cylinder Toyota Camry. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote:
> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan > to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). > My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is > terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but > it is not a real saving in gas to me. > > Civic should be adequate but they are selling for top dollar right now. A 4 cylinder Accord is a far better deal. Also pays to test drive a 4 cylinder Toyota Camry. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
BWBrown wrote:
> I just bought an Accord SE with the 4 cylinder, 5 speed. It's got tons of > power and is smooth as anything. The great part is how easy it is on gas for > the performance. It has a plush-enough ride and still feels sporty - you > sometimes forget that there is a back seat in it. Honda has done a great job > with this vehicle and, I suspect, the Civic is a super car too on a smaller > scale. You can't go wrong with a Honda. disappointingly, the 2001-on civics just don't handle as well as their older wishbone brethren or the wishbone accords. they drive well enough, but if you want handling, the accord is superior. > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message > news:elmop-ECAC68.07410325082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com... >> In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>, >> bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or >>> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a >>> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. >>> >>> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny >>> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. >> I agree completely. >> >> I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual >> trans. The new ones are even better. >> > > |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
BWBrown wrote:
> I just bought an Accord SE with the 4 cylinder, 5 speed. It's got tons of > power and is smooth as anything. The great part is how easy it is on gas for > the performance. It has a plush-enough ride and still feels sporty - you > sometimes forget that there is a back seat in it. Honda has done a great job > with this vehicle and, I suspect, the Civic is a super car too on a smaller > scale. You can't go wrong with a Honda. disappointingly, the 2001-on civics just don't handle as well as their older wishbone brethren or the wishbone accords. they drive well enough, but if you want handling, the accord is superior. > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message > news:elmop-ECAC68.07410325082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com... >> In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>, >> bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or >>> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a >>> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. >>> >>> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny >>> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. >> I agree completely. >> >> I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual >> trans. The new ones are even better. >> > > |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
BWBrown wrote:
> I just bought an Accord SE with the 4 cylinder, 5 speed. It's got tons of > power and is smooth as anything. The great part is how easy it is on gas for > the performance. It has a plush-enough ride and still feels sporty - you > sometimes forget that there is a back seat in it. Honda has done a great job > with this vehicle and, I suspect, the Civic is a super car too on a smaller > scale. You can't go wrong with a Honda. disappointingly, the 2001-on civics just don't handle as well as their older wishbone brethren or the wishbone accords. they drive well enough, but if you want handling, the accord is superior. > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message > news:elmop-ECAC68.07410325082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com... >> In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>, >> bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or >>> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a >>> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. >>> >>> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny >>> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. >> I agree completely. >> >> I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual >> trans. The new ones are even better. >> > > |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
BWBrown wrote:
> I just bought an Accord SE with the 4 cylinder, 5 speed. It's got tons of > power and is smooth as anything. The great part is how easy it is on gas for > the performance. It has a plush-enough ride and still feels sporty - you > sometimes forget that there is a back seat in it. Honda has done a great job > with this vehicle and, I suspect, the Civic is a super car too on a smaller > scale. You can't go wrong with a Honda. disappointingly, the 2001-on civics just don't handle as well as their older wishbone brethren or the wishbone accords. they drive well enough, but if you want handling, the accord is superior. > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message > news:elmop-ECAC68.07410325082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com... >> In article <1156504998.932409.62580@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>, >> bobzee1@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> My opinion is thusly: There should never have been a v6 accord or >>> camry ever produced in america. Those people who believe they need a >>> v6 have never driven a late-model K24 equipped 4-cylinder accord. >>> >>> My '04 accord ex-L coupe with the 4-cylinder and 5-speed manual tranny >>> is untouchable anywhere during my daily 180 mile commute. >> I agree completely. >> >> I had the exact same opinion of my 2000 Accord 4 cylinder with manual >> trans. The new ones are even better. >> > > |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:27:47 -0400, "harry" <harry_liuNOSPAM@lcc.com>
wrote: >I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan >to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). >My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is >terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but >it is not a real saving in gas to me. > >Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of >driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy" >when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one >adult passenger was my impression with Civic. > >This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen >daughter for local soccer practice. > >What is your opinion? >I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is >considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle >with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. > The Fit is supposed to be great fun to drive as well as fuel efficient. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:27:47 -0400, "harry" <harry_liuNOSPAM@lcc.com>
wrote: >I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan >to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). >My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is >terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but >it is not a real saving in gas to me. > >Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of >driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy" >when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one >adult passenger was my impression with Civic. > >This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen >daughter for local soccer practice. > >What is your opinion? >I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is >considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle >with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. > The Fit is supposed to be great fun to drive as well as fuel efficient. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:27:47 -0400, "harry" <harry_liuNOSPAM@lcc.com>
wrote: >I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan >to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). >My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is >terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but >it is not a real saving in gas to me. > >Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of >driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy" >when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one >adult passenger was my impression with Civic. > >This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen >daughter for local soccer practice. > >What is your opinion? >I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is >considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle >with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. > The Fit is supposed to be great fun to drive as well as fuel efficient. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:27:47 -0400, "harry" <harry_liuNOSPAM@lcc.com>
wrote: >I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient sedan >to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). >My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is >terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road condition but >it is not a real saving in gas to me. > >Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun of >driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel it "heavy" >when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is taking more than one >adult passenger was my impression with Civic. > >This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my teen >daughter for local soccer practice. > >What is your opinion? >I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is >considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle >with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. > The Fit is supposed to be great fun to drive as well as fuel efficient. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote:
> > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle > with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. > > Value for the money wise the 4 cylinder Accord is going to be best as it is a well tested model in plentiful supply and is being sold at aggressive discounts. If fuel economy is your top priority, however, the Civic does a little better than the Accord. In either case IMO you get better economy if your are willing to shift for yourself and get a manual transmission. This also saves on up front costs. The only reason to get an automatic is if you hate driving a stick or if you plan to trade in soon. Stick shifts take a hit on resale value. Also, Honda has had some problems in recent years with it's automatic transmissions. Hopefully these are resolved, but if not, the manual avoids that problem all together. Best all around buy is a manual transmission 4 cylinder Accord. John |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote:
> > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle > with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. > > Value for the money wise the 4 cylinder Accord is going to be best as it is a well tested model in plentiful supply and is being sold at aggressive discounts. If fuel economy is your top priority, however, the Civic does a little better than the Accord. In either case IMO you get better economy if your are willing to shift for yourself and get a manual transmission. This also saves on up front costs. The only reason to get an automatic is if you hate driving a stick or if you plan to trade in soon. Stick shifts take a hit on resale value. Also, Honda has had some problems in recent years with it's automatic transmissions. Hopefully these are resolved, but if not, the manual avoids that problem all together. Best all around buy is a manual transmission 4 cylinder Accord. John |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote:
> > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle > with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. > > Value for the money wise the 4 cylinder Accord is going to be best as it is a well tested model in plentiful supply and is being sold at aggressive discounts. If fuel economy is your top priority, however, the Civic does a little better than the Accord. In either case IMO you get better economy if your are willing to shift for yourself and get a manual transmission. This also saves on up front costs. The only reason to get an automatic is if you hate driving a stick or if you plan to trade in soon. Stick shifts take a hit on resale value. Also, Honda has had some problems in recent years with it's automatic transmissions. Hopefully these are resolved, but if not, the manual avoids that problem all together. Best all around buy is a manual transmission 4 cylinder Accord. John |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote:
> > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not settle > with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads to office.. > > Value for the money wise the 4 cylinder Accord is going to be best as it is a well tested model in plentiful supply and is being sold at aggressive discounts. If fuel economy is your top priority, however, the Civic does a little better than the Accord. In either case IMO you get better economy if your are willing to shift for yourself and get a manual transmission. This also saves on up front costs. The only reason to get an automatic is if you hate driving a stick or if you plan to trade in soon. Stick shifts take a hit on resale value. Also, Honda has had some problems in recent years with it's automatic transmissions. Hopefully these are resolved, but if not, the manual avoids that problem all together. Best all around buy is a manual transmission 4 cylinder Accord. John |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote:
> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient > sedan to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). > My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is > terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road > condition but it is not a real saving in gas to me. You may want to look into why the mileage is so low for the wife's car. I have a 2004 v6 and I get 29 MPG on the highway, and around 21-22 around town. Not much less in the summer using the AC. I have found some differences in the trip computer and my calculations. You may want to try to do it manually for awhile and compare. > > Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun > of driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel > it "heavy" when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is > taking more than one adult passenger was my impression with Civic. The new 4 cyl produces much more HP and torque from the 80's models. My daughter had a 2002 civic that was quite "peppy" and still got 33 MPG (EX with automatic). > > This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my > teen daughter for local soccer practice. > > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not > settle with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads > to office.. Though the 4 cyl accord has good acceleration, my preference is the 6 cyl. It is much easier to pull out onto a CA freeway and merge with 4 or 5 people in the car (my test drives for both 4 cyl and 6 cyl were with 5 people in the car), as the traffic moves along at 75MPH+ and the ramps are not very long. It is also makes it much easier in going through the mountains to get to Tahoe and Reno. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote:
> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient > sedan to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). > My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is > terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road > condition but it is not a real saving in gas to me. You may want to look into why the mileage is so low for the wife's car. I have a 2004 v6 and I get 29 MPG on the highway, and around 21-22 around town. Not much less in the summer using the AC. I have found some differences in the trip computer and my calculations. You may want to try to do it manually for awhile and compare. > > Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun > of driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel > it "heavy" when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is > taking more than one adult passenger was my impression with Civic. The new 4 cyl produces much more HP and torque from the 80's models. My daughter had a 2002 civic that was quite "peppy" and still got 33 MPG (EX with automatic). > > This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my > teen daughter for local soccer practice. > > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not > settle with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads > to office.. Though the 4 cyl accord has good acceleration, my preference is the 6 cyl. It is much easier to pull out onto a CA freeway and merge with 4 or 5 people in the car (my test drives for both 4 cyl and 6 cyl were with 5 people in the car), as the traffic moves along at 75MPH+ and the ramps are not very long. It is also makes it much easier in going through the mountains to get to Tahoe and Reno. |
Re: will you get a Civic or I4 Accord?
harry wrote:
> I drove many big SUVs before and am planning to get a fuel efficient > sedan to commute to work (50% HWY, 50 % not so heavy local). > My wife has a 06 Accord V6, I loved driving it but the gas mileage is > terrible (17-18mpg). I may get up to 20mpg in my driving road > condition but it is not a real saving in gas to me. You may want to look into why the mileage is so low for the wife's car. I have a 2004 v6 and I get 29 MPG on the highway, and around 21-22 around town. Not much less in the summer using the AC. I have found some differences in the trip computer and my calculations. You may want to try to do it manually for awhile and compare. > > Here is the dilemma, I like to save gas and I don't want to lose fun > of driving and stability/performance. Owned a Civic in 80s and feel > it "heavy" when two or three adult sit in, struggling when it is > taking more than one adult passenger was my impression with Civic. The new 4 cyl produces much more HP and torque from the 80's models. My daughter had a 2002 civic that was quite "peppy" and still got 33 MPG (EX with automatic). > > This Civic/accord I4 will be 99% my commute car and at most with my > teen daughter for local soccer practice. > > What is your opinion? > I have been driving trucks for more than 15 years, any modern sedan is > considered agile responsive car to me. Not like my wife, she can not > settle with Accord 4 cyl., must be a V6. to drive her 40mph top roads > to office.. Though the 4 cyl accord has good acceleration, my preference is the 6 cyl. It is much easier to pull out onto a CA freeway and merge with 4 or 5 people in the car (my test drives for both 4 cyl and 6 cyl were with 5 people in the car), as the traffic moves along at 75MPH+ and the ramps are not very long. It is also makes it much easier in going through the mountains to get to Tahoe and Reno. |
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