Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".

One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
idea bad idea????

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

Mobil 1

CaptainKrunch


"Im anonymous" <acctforjunk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.c om...
> Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
>
> One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> idea bad idea????

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

Mobil 1

CaptainKrunch


"Im anonymous" <acctforjunk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.c om...
> Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
>
> One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> idea bad idea????

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

Mobil 1

CaptainKrunch


"Im anonymous" <acctforjunk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.c om...
> Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
>
> One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> idea bad idea????

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

Mobil 1

CaptainKrunch


"Im anonymous" <acctforjunk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.c om...
> Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
>
> One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> idea bad idea????

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

If you plan to keep the car a while, you should definitely use synthetic
oil. I've been using Castrol Synthetic for the past 4 years (since I
purchased it) in my 94 Accord EXR 2.2 4cyl, and it just passed the
emissions test with flying colours. One note, I've been changing the oil
every 6000km, not the 10000km usually recommended with synthetics.

Cosmin

Im anonymous wrote:

> Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
>
> One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> idea bad idea????

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

If you plan to keep the car a while, you should definitely use synthetic
oil. I've been using Castrol Synthetic for the past 4 years (since I
purchased it) in my 94 Accord EXR 2.2 4cyl, and it just passed the
emissions test with flying colours. One note, I've been changing the oil
every 6000km, not the 10000km usually recommended with synthetics.

Cosmin

Im anonymous wrote:

> Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
>
> One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> idea bad idea????

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

If you plan to keep the car a while, you should definitely use synthetic
oil. I've been using Castrol Synthetic for the past 4 years (since I
purchased it) in my 94 Accord EXR 2.2 4cyl, and it just passed the
emissions test with flying colours. One note, I've been changing the oil
every 6000km, not the 10000km usually recommended with synthetics.

Cosmin

Im anonymous wrote:

> Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
>
> One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> idea bad idea????

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

If you plan to keep the car a while, you should definitely use synthetic
oil. I've been using Castrol Synthetic for the past 4 years (since I
purchased it) in my 94 Accord EXR 2.2 4cyl, and it just passed the
emissions test with flying colours. One note, I've been changing the oil
every 6000km, not the 10000km usually recommended with synthetics.

Cosmin

Im anonymous wrote:

> Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
>
> One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> idea bad idea????

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:

> Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".

Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
longer.


> One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> idea bad idea????

No problem.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:

> Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".

Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
longer.


> One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> idea bad idea????

No problem.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:

> Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".

Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
longer.


> One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> idea bad idea????

No problem.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:

> Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".

Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
longer.


> One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> idea bad idea????

No problem.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

"Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:mcmurtri-8856AD.00560027012004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
> acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
>
> > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
>
> Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
> dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
> to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
> longer.

Do you know whether or not Rain-X's De-Icer Windshield Washer Fluid will
soften paint--or damage it any way?

Thanks in advance!

J. Perry

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

"Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:mcmurtri-8856AD.00560027012004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
> acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
>
> > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
>
> Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
> dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
> to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
> longer.

Do you know whether or not Rain-X's De-Icer Windshield Washer Fluid will
soften paint--or damage it any way?

Thanks in advance!

J. Perry

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

"Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:mcmurtri-8856AD.00560027012004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
> acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
>
> > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
>
> Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
> dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
> to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
> longer.

Do you know whether or not Rain-X's De-Icer Windshield Washer Fluid will
soften paint--or damage it any way?

Thanks in advance!

J. Perry

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

"Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:mcmurtri-8856AD.00560027012004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
> acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
>
> > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
>
> Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
> dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
> to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
> longer.

Do you know whether or not Rain-X's De-Icer Windshield Washer Fluid will
soften paint--or damage it any way?

Thanks in advance!

J. Perry

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <83gRb.2961$9Ce1.2437@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.ro gers.com>,
no@email.com says...
>
>
>If you plan to keep the car a while, you should definitely use synthetic
>oil. I've been using Castrol Synthetic for the past 4 years (since I
>purchased it) in my 94 Accord EXR 2.2 4cyl, and it just passed the
>emissions test with flying colours. One note, I've been changing the oil
>every 6000km, not the 10000km usually recommended with synthetics.

I can't see this stuff being good for visibility when it is on your windsheild.
----------
Alex

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <83gRb.2961$9Ce1.2437@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.ro gers.com>,
no@email.com says...
>
>
>If you plan to keep the car a while, you should definitely use synthetic
>oil. I've been using Castrol Synthetic for the past 4 years (since I
>purchased it) in my 94 Accord EXR 2.2 4cyl, and it just passed the
>emissions test with flying colours. One note, I've been changing the oil
>every 6000km, not the 10000km usually recommended with synthetics.

I can't see this stuff being good for visibility when it is on your windsheild.
----------
Alex

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <83gRb.2961$9Ce1.2437@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.ro gers.com>,
no@email.com says...
>
>
>If you plan to keep the car a while, you should definitely use synthetic
>oil. I've been using Castrol Synthetic for the past 4 years (since I
>purchased it) in my 94 Accord EXR 2.2 4cyl, and it just passed the
>emissions test with flying colours. One note, I've been changing the oil
>every 6000km, not the 10000km usually recommended with synthetics.

I can't see this stuff being good for visibility when it is on your windsheild.
----------
Alex

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <83gRb.2961$9Ce1.2437@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.ro gers.com>,
no@email.com says...
>
>
>If you plan to keep the car a while, you should definitely use synthetic
>oil. I've been using Castrol Synthetic for the past 4 years (since I
>purchased it) in my 94 Accord EXR 2.2 4cyl, and it just passed the
>emissions test with flying colours. One note, I've been changing the oil
>every 6000km, not the 10000km usually recommended with synthetics.

I can't see this stuff being good for visibility when it is on your windsheild.
----------
Alex

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <z%ERb.267$bW1.10752@eagle.america.net>,
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:

> "Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:mcmurtri-8856AD.00560027012004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
> > acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
> >
> > Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
> > dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
> > to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
> > longer.
>
> Do you know whether or not Rain-X's De-Icer Windshield Washer Fluid will
> soften paint--or damage it any way?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> J. Perry
>
>

The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
quickly to matter.

Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
diluted with plenty of water.

My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
days.

My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
want to experiment on a nice car.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <z%ERb.267$bW1.10752@eagle.america.net>,
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:

> "Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:mcmurtri-8856AD.00560027012004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
> > acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
> >
> > Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
> > dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
> > to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
> > longer.
>
> Do you know whether or not Rain-X's De-Icer Windshield Washer Fluid will
> soften paint--or damage it any way?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> J. Perry
>
>

The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
quickly to matter.

Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
diluted with plenty of water.

My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
days.

My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
want to experiment on a nice car.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <z%ERb.267$bW1.10752@eagle.america.net>,
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:

> "Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:mcmurtri-8856AD.00560027012004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
> > acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
> >
> > Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
> > dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
> > to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
> > longer.
>
> Do you know whether or not Rain-X's De-Icer Windshield Washer Fluid will
> soften paint--or damage it any way?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> J. Perry
>
>

The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
quickly to matter.

Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
diluted with plenty of water.

My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
days.

My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
want to experiment on a nice car.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <z%ERb.267$bW1.10752@eagle.america.net>,
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:

> "Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:mcmurtri-8856AD.00560027012004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
> > acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
> >
> > Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
> > dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
> > to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
> > longer.
>
> Do you know whether or not Rain-X's De-Icer Windshield Washer Fluid will
> soften paint--or damage it any way?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> J. Perry
>
>

The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
quickly to matter.

Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
diluted with plenty of water.

My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
days.

My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
want to experiment on a nice car.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:<mcmurtri-CAA77E.21520528012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>...
> >
> The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
> and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
> quickly to matter.
>
> Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
> resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
> diluted with plenty of water.
>
> My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
> detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
> days.
>
> My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
> detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
> windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
> wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
> the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
> want to experiment on a nice car.

You must live in a warmer climate. I'm pretty sure your winter wiper
fluid formula would freeze and bust all the wiper components if I used
it here.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:<mcmurtri-CAA77E.21520528012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>...
> >
> The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
> and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
> quickly to matter.
>
> Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
> resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
> diluted with plenty of water.
>
> My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
> detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
> days.
>
> My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
> detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
> windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
> wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
> the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
> want to experiment on a nice car.

You must live in a warmer climate. I'm pretty sure your winter wiper
fluid formula would freeze and bust all the wiper components if I used
it here.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:<mcmurtri-CAA77E.21520528012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>...
> >
> The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
> and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
> quickly to matter.
>
> Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
> resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
> diluted with plenty of water.
>
> My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
> detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
> days.
>
> My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
> detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
> windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
> wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
> the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
> want to experiment on a nice car.

You must live in a warmer climate. I'm pretty sure your winter wiper
fluid formula would freeze and bust all the wiper components if I used
it here.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:<mcmurtri-CAA77E.21520528012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>...
> >
> The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
> and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
> quickly to matter.
>
> Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
> resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
> diluted with plenty of water.
>
> My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
> detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
> days.
>
> My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
> detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
> windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
> wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
> the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
> want to experiment on a nice car.

You must live in a warmer climate. I'm pretty sure your winter wiper
fluid formula would freeze and bust all the wiper components if I used
it here.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

I had an old geo prizm that was 14 years old and the shine wore off.
My winshield jets leak when I use them and within a year I had a very
ugly white stripe down my hood.

Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:<mcmurtri-CAA77E.21520528012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>...
> In article <z%ERb.267$bW1.10752@eagle.america.net>,
> "J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:
>
> > "Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> > news:mcmurtri-8856AD.00560027012004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > > In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
> > > acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > > > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
> > >
> > > Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
> > > dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
> > > to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
> > > longer.
> >
> > Do you know whether or not Rain-X's De-Icer Windshield Washer Fluid will
> > soften paint--or damage it any way?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > J. Perry
> >
> >
>
> The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
> and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
> quickly to matter.
>
> Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
> resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
> diluted with plenty of water.
>
> My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
> detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
> days.
>
> My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
> detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
> windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
> wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
> the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
> want to experiment on a nice car.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

I had an old geo prizm that was 14 years old and the shine wore off.
My winshield jets leak when I use them and within a year I had a very
ugly white stripe down my hood.

Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:<mcmurtri-CAA77E.21520528012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>...
> In article <z%ERb.267$bW1.10752@eagle.america.net>,
> "J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:
>
> > "Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> > news:mcmurtri-8856AD.00560027012004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > > In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
> > > acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > > > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
> > >
> > > Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
> > > dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
> > > to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
> > > longer.
> >
> > Do you know whether or not Rain-X's De-Icer Windshield Washer Fluid will
> > soften paint--or damage it any way?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > J. Perry
> >
> >
>
> The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
> and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
> quickly to matter.
>
> Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
> resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
> diluted with plenty of water.
>
> My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
> detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
> days.
>
> My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
> detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
> windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
> wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
> the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
> want to experiment on a nice car.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

I had an old geo prizm that was 14 years old and the shine wore off.
My winshield jets leak when I use them and within a year I had a very
ugly white stripe down my hood.

Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:<mcmurtri-CAA77E.21520528012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>...
> In article <z%ERb.267$bW1.10752@eagle.america.net>,
> "J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:
>
> > "Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> > news:mcmurtri-8856AD.00560027012004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > > In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
> > > acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > > > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
> > >
> > > Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
> > > dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
> > > to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
> > > longer.
> >
> > Do you know whether or not Rain-X's De-Icer Windshield Washer Fluid will
> > soften paint--or damage it any way?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > J. Perry
> >
> >
>
> The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
> and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
> quickly to matter.
>
> Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
> resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
> diluted with plenty of water.
>
> My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
> detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
> days.
>
> My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
> detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
> windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
> wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
> the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
> want to experiment on a nice car.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

I had an old geo prizm that was 14 years old and the shine wore off.
My winshield jets leak when I use them and within a year I had a very
ugly white stripe down my hood.

Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:<mcmurtri-CAA77E.21520528012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>...
> In article <z%ERb.267$bW1.10752@eagle.america.net>,
> "J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:
>
> > "Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> > news:mcmurtri-8856AD.00560027012004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > > In article <bffabe31.0401260601.228664c0@posting.google.com >,
> > > acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > > > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
> > >
> > > Check the ingredients. Alcohol isn't good for the paint. It doesn't
> > > dissolve the paint but it soaks in and softens it, making it very easy
> > > to damage. The heavier alcohols are worse because they stick around
> > > longer.
> >
> > Do you know whether or not Rain-X's De-Icer Windshield Washer Fluid will
> > soften paint--or damage it any way?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > J. Perry
> >
> >
>
> The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
> and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
> quickly to matter.
>
> Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
> resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
> diluted with plenty of water.
>
> My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
> detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
> days.
>
> My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
> detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
> windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
> wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
> the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
> want to experiment on a nice car.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <bffabe31.0401290519.2a0753c@posting.google.com> ,
acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:

> Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:<mcmurtri-CAA77E.21520528012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>...
> > >
> > The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
> > and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
> > quickly to matter.
> >
> > Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
> > resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
> > diluted with plenty of water.
> >
> > My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
> > detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
> > days.
> >
> > My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
> > detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
> > windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
> > wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
> > the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
> > want to experiment on a nice car.
>
> You must live in a warmer climate. I'm pretty sure your winter wiper
> fluid formula would freeze and bust all the wiper components if I used
> it here.

Yep. The car doesn't see freezing temperatures unless I go on a long
drive. In that case I add some rubbing alcohol. It does see
temperatures so hot that the washer fluid steams off in a few seconds,
hence the need for purified water in the summer.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <bffabe31.0401290519.2a0753c@posting.google.com> ,
acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:

> Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:<mcmurtri-CAA77E.21520528012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>...
> > >
> > The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
> > and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
> > quickly to matter.
> >
> > Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
> > resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
> > diluted with plenty of water.
> >
> > My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
> > detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
> > days.
> >
> > My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
> > detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
> > windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
> > wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
> > the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
> > want to experiment on a nice car.
>
> You must live in a warmer climate. I'm pretty sure your winter wiper
> fluid formula would freeze and bust all the wiper components if I used
> it here.

Yep. The car doesn't see freezing temperatures unless I go on a long
drive. In that case I add some rubbing alcohol. It does see
temperatures so hot that the washer fluid steams off in a few seconds,
hence the need for purified water in the summer.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <bffabe31.0401290519.2a0753c@posting.google.com> ,
acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:

> Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:<mcmurtri-CAA77E.21520528012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>...
> > >
> > The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
> > and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
> > quickly to matter.
> >
> > Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
> > resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
> > diluted with plenty of water.
> >
> > My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
> > detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
> > days.
> >
> > My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
> > detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
> > windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
> > wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
> > the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
> > want to experiment on a nice car.
>
> You must live in a warmer climate. I'm pretty sure your winter wiper
> fluid formula would freeze and bust all the wiper components if I used
> it here.

Yep. The car doesn't see freezing temperatures unless I go on a long
drive. In that case I add some rubbing alcohol. It does see
temperatures so hot that the washer fluid steams off in a few seconds,
hence the need for purified water in the summer.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

In article <bffabe31.0401290519.2a0753c@posting.google.com> ,
acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:

> Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:<mcmurtri-CAA77E.21520528012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>...
> > >
> > The ingredients are probably on the saftey are of the label. Methanol
> > and the various glycols are bad. Isopropanol and ethanol evaporate too
> > quickly to matter.
> >
> > Alcohols are mostly used as anti-freeze. One that's not freeze
> > resistant is less likely to have alcohol. Strong concentrates are
> > diluted with plenty of water.
> >
> > My favorite summer wiper fluid is a couple of drops of hand-wash dish
> > detergent in purified water. There's no mess or streaking on hot, dry
> > days.
> >
> > My favorite winter wiper fluid is a spoonful of powdered laundry
> > detergent per gallon of water. It causes water to stick to the
> > windshield in a continuous and smooth film. There's no haze after the
> > wiper blades go by. It unfortunately makes a chalky mess if it dries on
> > the car. The chalk doesn't seem to hurt the paint but maybe you don't
> > want to experiment on a nice car.
>
> You must live in a warmer climate. I'm pretty sure your winter wiper
> fluid formula would freeze and bust all the wiper components if I used
> it here.

Yep. The car doesn't see freezing temperatures unless I go on a long
drive. In that case I add some rubbing alcohol. It does see
temperatures so hot that the washer fluid steams off in a few seconds,
hence the need for purified water in the summer.

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

My 1988 Honda Accord DX has 16 years and over 225,000 miles on it. It has
never run on synthetic. It has never needed engine repair. If you think
you need synthetic to make your car last and it isn't souped up (riced out)
then you should not have wasted your money on your car. I am not against
synthetic in any way. It seems to be great BUT in order to get rid of the
acid and carbon build up from blow-by, etc., I bet you will be changing your
synthetic somewhere between 3000 and 5000 miles anyway. So is it really
worth the cost when regular oil lasts that long these days and in these
cars? Engines do not last forever either way.

Aron



"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:83gRb.2961$9Ce1.2437@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> If you plan to keep the car a while, you should definitely use synthetic
> oil. I've been using Castrol Synthetic for the past 4 years (since I
> purchased it) in my 94 Accord EXR 2.2 4cyl, and it just passed the
> emissions test with flying colours. One note, I've been changing the oil
> every 6000km, not the 10000km usually recommended with synthetics.
>
> Cosmin
>
> Im anonymous wrote:
>
> > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
> >
> > One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> > the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> > idea bad idea????

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

My 1988 Honda Accord DX has 16 years and over 225,000 miles on it. It has
never run on synthetic. It has never needed engine repair. If you think
you need synthetic to make your car last and it isn't souped up (riced out)
then you should not have wasted your money on your car. I am not against
synthetic in any way. It seems to be great BUT in order to get rid of the
acid and carbon build up from blow-by, etc., I bet you will be changing your
synthetic somewhere between 3000 and 5000 miles anyway. So is it really
worth the cost when regular oil lasts that long these days and in these
cars? Engines do not last forever either way.

Aron



"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:83gRb.2961$9Ce1.2437@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> If you plan to keep the car a while, you should definitely use synthetic
> oil. I've been using Castrol Synthetic for the past 4 years (since I
> purchased it) in my 94 Accord EXR 2.2 4cyl, and it just passed the
> emissions test with flying colours. One note, I've been changing the oil
> every 6000km, not the 10000km usually recommended with synthetics.
>
> Cosmin
>
> Im anonymous wrote:
>
> > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
> >
> > One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> > the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> > idea bad idea????

Re: Windshield wiper fluid bad for paint?
 

My 1988 Honda Accord DX has 16 years and over 225,000 miles on it. It has
never run on synthetic. It has never needed engine repair. If you think
you need synthetic to make your car last and it isn't souped up (riced out)
then you should not have wasted your money on your car. I am not against
synthetic in any way. It seems to be great BUT in order to get rid of the
acid and carbon build up from blow-by, etc., I bet you will be changing your
synthetic somewhere between 3000 and 5000 miles anyway. So is it really
worth the cost when regular oil lasts that long these days and in these
cars? Engines do not last forever either way.

Aron



"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:83gRb.2961$9Ce1.2437@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> If you plan to keep the car a while, you should definitely use synthetic
> oil. I've been using Castrol Synthetic for the past 4 years (since I
> purchased it) in my 94 Accord EXR 2.2 4cyl, and it just passed the
> emissions test with flying colours. One note, I've been changing the oil
> every 6000km, not the 10000km usually recommended with synthetics.
>
> Cosmin
>
> Im anonymous wrote:
>
> > Has anyone heard about this before? Especially the red stuff they
> > call, I believe, "Liquid Fire".
> >
> > One more thing: I'm considering using synthetic in my 3.0L V6 after
> > the 5000 mi break in period. Brand recommendations, thoughts, good
> > idea bad idea????