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aer23@nospam.cornell.edu 09-01-2003 10:14 PM

wiper question
 
Hey guys
New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute.
Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed
demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go.
One question though,
On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about
..5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and
wiping off the glass on the upstroke.
If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well,
but once I go quick, its all over.
Any ideas?
thanks guys!
AER

Xavier 09-01-2003 11:00 PM

Re: wiper question
 

<aer23@nospam.cornell.edu> wrote in message
news:tvu7lv4mbt8akrugj66ktkj9jd84fgj6al@4ax.com...
> Hey guys
> New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute.
> Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed
> demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go.
> One question though,
> On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about
> .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and
> wiping off the glass on the upstroke.
> If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well,
> but once I go quick, its all over.
> Any ideas?
> thanks guys!
> AER


Maybe they are aftermarket? What does the manual or dealer say is standard
size?



Xavier 09-01-2003 11:00 PM

Re: wiper question
 

<aer23@nospam.cornell.edu> wrote in message
news:tvu7lv4mbt8akrugj66ktkj9jd84fgj6al@4ax.com...
> Hey guys
> New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute.
> Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed
> demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go.
> One question though,
> On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about
> .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and
> wiping off the glass on the upstroke.
> If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well,
> but once I go quick, its all over.
> Any ideas?
> thanks guys!
> AER


Maybe they are aftermarket? What does the manual or dealer say is standard
size?



Bill B. Johnson 09-02-2003 01:33 PM

Re: wiper question
 
In article <tvu7lv4mbt8akrugj66ktkj9jd84fgj6al@4ax.com>,
aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote:

> Hey guys
> New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute.
> Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed
> demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go.
> One question though,
> On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about
> .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and
> wiping off the glass on the upstroke.
> If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well,
> but once I go quick, its all over.
> Any ideas?
> thanks guys!
> AER


I have not seen this problem before so can only guess. This idea may or
may not work. The wipers may have been installed incorrectly. Pull both of
the wipers off and reinstall one of them. When you slide it into
place--move it about one inch higher than it is right now. Try it and see
if this solves the problem. If not, reinstall it about 2 inches higher
than it is right now. I hope my idea works. If not--I wonder if they
installed the wrong type of wiper motors on your vehicle.

Bill B. Johnson 09-02-2003 01:33 PM

Re: wiper question
 
In article <tvu7lv4mbt8akrugj66ktkj9jd84fgj6al@4ax.com>,
aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote:

> Hey guys
> New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute.
> Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed
> demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go.
> One question though,
> On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about
> .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and
> wiping off the glass on the upstroke.
> If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well,
> but once I go quick, its all over.
> Any ideas?
> thanks guys!
> AER


I have not seen this problem before so can only guess. This idea may or
may not work. The wipers may have been installed incorrectly. Pull both of
the wipers off and reinstall one of them. When you slide it into
place--move it about one inch higher than it is right now. Try it and see
if this solves the problem. If not, reinstall it about 2 inches higher
than it is right now. I hope my idea works. If not--I wonder if they
installed the wrong type of wiper motors on your vehicle.

aer23@nospam.cornell.edu 09-02-2003 06:50 PM

Re: wiper question
 
I know what you mean about installing them higher, but they already
wipe higher on the upstroke when on highspeed, so setting them higher
would make them go further off the window than it already does.
Its funny. The cars been serviced by the dealer since day one (i have
alllll papers on it) and wipers were never replaced.

I supposed they COULD be too long, but They dont look too long, or
even longer than other civics I have seen (I checked this ouf first)

THey only over arch on high speed. Low speed and intermittant stop at
the right spot, staying on the window just fine....
Wierd....
And when I turn them off, they reset to the correct neutral position.
Its like the momentum is just carrying them too far on high speeed....
AER

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 10:33:56 -0700, billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com
(Bill B. Johnson) wrote:

>In article <tvu7lv4mbt8akrugj66ktkj9jd84fgj6al@4ax.com>,
>aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote:
>
>> Hey guys
>> New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute.
>> Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed
>> demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go.
>> One question though,
>> On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about
>> .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and
>> wiping off the glass on the upstroke.
>> If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well,
>> but once I go quick, its all over.
>> Any ideas?
>> thanks guys!
>> AER

>
>I have not seen this problem before so can only guess. This idea may or
>may not work. The wipers may have been installed incorrectly. Pull both of
>the wipers off and reinstall one of them. When you slide it into
>place--move it about one inch higher than it is right now. Try it and see
>if this solves the problem. If not, reinstall it about 2 inches higher
>than it is right now. I hope my idea works. If not--I wonder if they
>installed the wrong type of wiper motors on your vehicle.



aer23@nospam.cornell.edu 09-02-2003 06:50 PM

Re: wiper question
 
I know what you mean about installing them higher, but they already
wipe higher on the upstroke when on highspeed, so setting them higher
would make them go further off the window than it already does.
Its funny. The cars been serviced by the dealer since day one (i have
alllll papers on it) and wipers were never replaced.

I supposed they COULD be too long, but They dont look too long, or
even longer than other civics I have seen (I checked this ouf first)

THey only over arch on high speed. Low speed and intermittant stop at
the right spot, staying on the window just fine....
Wierd....
And when I turn them off, they reset to the correct neutral position.
Its like the momentum is just carrying them too far on high speeed....
AER

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 10:33:56 -0700, billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com
(Bill B. Johnson) wrote:

>In article <tvu7lv4mbt8akrugj66ktkj9jd84fgj6al@4ax.com>,
>aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote:
>
>> Hey guys
>> New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute.
>> Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed
>> demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go.
>> One question though,
>> On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about
>> .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and
>> wiping off the glass on the upstroke.
>> If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well,
>> but once I go quick, its all over.
>> Any ideas?
>> thanks guys!
>> AER

>
>I have not seen this problem before so can only guess. This idea may or
>may not work. The wipers may have been installed incorrectly. Pull both of
>the wipers off and reinstall one of them. When you slide it into
>place--move it about one inch higher than it is right now. Try it and see
>if this solves the problem. If not, reinstall it about 2 inches higher
>than it is right now. I hope my idea works. If not--I wonder if they
>installed the wrong type of wiper motors on your vehicle.



w_tom 09-03-2003 11:31 AM

Re: wiper question
 
Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some
cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)?
Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs
placed inside wiper blade rubber. Then wiper blade is slid
into arm. Inferior blades throw away the entire arm and those
stainless steel ribs so that you will never again be able to
use superior Honda blades. If the rubber wiper blade has
plastic stiffeners or feels like dried out rubber, then
someone so hated the car as to install inferior wiper blades.

Honda blades last one year or more. Cheap third party
blades typically last about 3 months. Honda uses superior
rubber - not cost controls. However if you have the cheap and
inferior replacement type blades (sold in inches), then go to
the dealer for new arms that include that superior wiper blade
and the stainless steel stiffener ribs.

aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote:
> Hey guys
> New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute.
> Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed
> demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go.
> One question though,
> On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about
> .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and
> wiping off the glass on the upstroke.
> If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well,
> but once I go quick, its all over.
> Any ideas?
> thanks guys!
> AER


w_tom 09-03-2003 11:31 AM

Re: wiper question
 
Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some
cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)?
Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs
placed inside wiper blade rubber. Then wiper blade is slid
into arm. Inferior blades throw away the entire arm and those
stainless steel ribs so that you will never again be able to
use superior Honda blades. If the rubber wiper blade has
plastic stiffeners or feels like dried out rubber, then
someone so hated the car as to install inferior wiper blades.

Honda blades last one year or more. Cheap third party
blades typically last about 3 months. Honda uses superior
rubber - not cost controls. However if you have the cheap and
inferior replacement type blades (sold in inches), then go to
the dealer for new arms that include that superior wiper blade
and the stainless steel stiffener ribs.

aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote:
> Hey guys
> New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute.
> Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed
> demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go.
> One question though,
> On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about
> .5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and
> wiping off the glass on the upstroke.
> If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well,
> but once I go quick, its all over.
> Any ideas?
> thanks guys!
> AER


Brian Smith 09-03-2003 01:57 PM

Re: wiper question
 

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F560964.552F48BE@hotmail.com...
> Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some
> cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)?
> Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs
> placed inside wiper blade rubber.


Just thought I'd throw in my two cents worth here. I have after market
Teflon wiper blades on my Accord. They have the metal inserts in the sides
of the blades. Also, the packages they are sold in
--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion

, are marked in SAE and Metric dimensions.




Brian Smith 09-03-2003 01:57 PM

Re: wiper question
 

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F560964.552F48BE@hotmail.com...
> Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some
> cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)?
> Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs
> placed inside wiper blade rubber.


Just thought I'd throw in my two cents worth here. I have after market
Teflon wiper blades on my Accord. They have the metal inserts in the sides
of the blades. Also, the packages they are sold in
--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion

, are marked in SAE and Metric dimensions.




w_tom 09-03-2003 06:46 PM

Re: wiper question
 
Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single
major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost
control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms
removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior
rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to
install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better
blade at the dealer.

It is a problem. Too many of us buy only on price and get
the wiper blades we deserve.

Brian Smith wrote:
> "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3F560964.552F48BE@hotmail.com...
>> Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some
>> cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)?
>> Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs
>> placed inside wiper blade rubber.

>
> Just thought I'd throw in my two cents worth here. I have after
> market Teflon wiper blades on my Accord. They have the metal
> inserts in the sides of the blades. Also, the packages they are
> sold in
> --
> Brian
> www.accesswave.ca/~orion
> , are marked in SAE and Metric dimensions.


w_tom 09-03-2003 06:46 PM

Re: wiper question
 
Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single
major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost
control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms
removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior
rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to
install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better
blade at the dealer.

It is a problem. Too many of us buy only on price and get
the wiper blades we deserve.

Brian Smith wrote:
> "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3F560964.552F48BE@hotmail.com...
>> Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some
>> cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)?
>> Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs
>> placed inside wiper blade rubber.

>
> Just thought I'd throw in my two cents worth here. I have after
> market Teflon wiper blades on my Accord. They have the metal
> inserts in the sides of the blades. Also, the packages they are
> sold in
> --
> Brian
> www.accesswave.ca/~orion
> , are marked in SAE and Metric dimensions.


Brian Smith 09-04-2003 07:13 AM

Re: wiper question
 

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F566F49.FCE7B5F9@hotmail.com...
> Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single
> major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost
> control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms
> removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior
> rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to
> install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better
> blade at the dealer.


Believe it or not, Motomaster available (obviously) at Canadian Tire. And, I
was mistaken about the measurements, they are only marked in inches.

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion




Brian Smith 09-04-2003 07:13 AM

Re: wiper question
 

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F566F49.FCE7B5F9@hotmail.com...
> Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single
> major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost
> control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms
> removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior
> rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to
> install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better
> blade at the dealer.


Believe it or not, Motomaster available (obviously) at Canadian Tire. And, I
was mistaken about the measurements, they are only marked in inches.

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion





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