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Robert11 04-28-2004 02:55 PM

XM Radio In Accord Questions
 
Hello:

Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person
with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come
with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will
have to do it the hard way, I guess.

a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car have an
aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use the
small fm transmitter that
you can purchase for it ?

b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car.
The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as the
glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it works if
you
place it on the rear inside shelf.

Are both of these statements true ?
Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ?

c. Not too sure what else to ask.

Are you folks happy with XM ?
Works well ?
Worth it, in your opinion ?

Any caveats, etc. ?

Thanks,
Bob


Aron 04-29-2004 10:37 AM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 
Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone
switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now everyone
with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie three
hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free?

I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In
places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station can't
come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny
antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to
impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on.

Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.

Aron

"Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> Hello:
>
> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person
> with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come
> with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will
> have to do it the hard way, I guess.
>
> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car have

an
> aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use the
> small fm transmitter that
> you can purchase for it ?
>
> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car.
> The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as the
> glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it works

if
> you
> place it on the rear inside shelf.
>
> Are both of these statements true ?
> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ?
>
> c. Not too sure what else to ask.
>
> Are you folks happy with XM ?
> Works well ?
> Worth it, in your opinion ?
>
> Any caveats, etc. ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>




Masterson 04-29-2004 11:11 AM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 
>>>Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too.
Actually, XM just recently increased the number of comercial free stations.


>>>everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and

a half movie three hours long.
My HBO plays movies straight though, yours puts ads in the middle?


>>>Why pay for radio when it's already free?

Cause my local stations don't have CNN, FOXnews, MLB or NFL
games. I also cant get any NASCAR races on fm. ohhh wait.....
I also can't get a 24hour Comedy channel. (it goes on and on and on)


>>>In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone.

Nothing is perfect, but its much better then most FM signals.


>>>A digital station can't come in unless it's clear.

If you like the sound of static, its ok. I understand.
Some dont like the sound, so no signal is better then raw noise. Also,
I dont have a single problem getting receiption. Owned it for more
then a year now......never a droped signal.


>>>I hear people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof.

Dont be foolish. Not a good reason at all for not liking it.





Donna Becker 04-29-2004 11:33 AM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 
<Are you folks happy with XM ?>
YES - YES - YES! I have my presets to 60s, 70s, 3 classical music stations
and CNN news. Hubby likes the Country stations like Hanks Place. IT IS SO
COOL!!! We get it free for 3 months. Even my son likes it - and he is 30
and hard to impress. I hear it is only $9.99 per month. Your friend should
have got the leather with navi and the XM. It really is worth it! Of
course back when I was young I couldn't even afford to get the A/C option or
an automatic trans. DonnaB



RankAndFile 04-29-2004 02:52 PM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 
"Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote in message
news:oq8kc.14812$gH6.11423@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone
> switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now everyone
> with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie

three
> hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free?


You pay extra for commercial-free channels on cable. It's always been that
way even if it shouldn't be.

OBTW, when cable first came out, my father told me he didn't get it for the
extra channels and ad-free stations. He got it so he could take that nasty
antenna off of his roof and it would provide better reception. Sounds worth
it to me.

> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In
> places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station can't
> come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny
> antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to
> impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on.


The content of local radio absolutely sucks in comparison. That's why
people will spend money on it.

>
> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.


I guess you can still listen to CDs or, in your case, cassettes.

> Aron
>
> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > Hello:
> >
> > Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person
> > with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come
> > with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will
> > have to do it the hard way, I guess.
> >
> > a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car have

> an
> > aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use the
> > small fm transmitter that
> > you can purchase for it ?
> >
> > b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car.
> > The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as the
> > glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it

works
> if
> > you
> > place it on the rear inside shelf.
> >
> > Are both of these statements true ?
> > Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ?
> >
> > c. Not too sure what else to ask.
> >
> > Are you folks happy with XM ?
> > Works well ?
> > Worth it, in your opinion ?
> >
> > Any caveats, etc. ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
> >

>
>



Elmo P. Shagnasty 04-29-2004 06:20 PM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 
In article <oq8kc.14812$gH6.11423@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net>,
"Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote:

> Basically, you're only going to
> impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on.
>
> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.


Basically, it's because basically you don't get it.


L Alpert 04-29-2004 11:07 PM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 
Aron wrote:
> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too.
> Everyone switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV.
> Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and
> a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already
> free?
>
> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store.
> In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital
> station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make
> fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically,
> you're only going to impress the people that need the newest thing to
> spend money on.
>
> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.


I have one, and I probably wouldn't want to do without it now.

I drove from the SF Bay area to the middle of Yosemite, and I didn't loose
it until I got almost to the middle of the park. I never loose it around
town......

So far, no commercials are only on the music stations. CNN, MSNBC, ESPN
radio, et al have commercials.

>
> Aron
>
> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>> Hello:
>>
>> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person
>> with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come
>> with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will
>> have to do it the hard way, I guess.
>>
>> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car
>> have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must
>> one use the small fm transmitter that
>> you can purchase for it ?
>>
>> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car.
>> The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as
>> the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said
>> it works if you
>> place it on the rear inside shelf.
>>
>> Are both of these statements true ?
>> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ?
>>
>> c. Not too sure what else to ask.
>>
>> Are you folks happy with XM ?
>> Works well ?
>> Worth it, in your opinion ?
>>
>> Any caveats, etc. ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob




George Becker 04-30-2004 10:50 AM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 
" Not being illuminated is one of our peeves when we got our Accord
>> last year but after a month, thanks that it not illuminated. You
>> will get so used to its placement you won't even be thinking which
>> button to push for volume or channels."

---------------
I wish they had used Braille-like keys. It would be a lot easier to find the
right one with your finger.
Sort of like a hand calculator with the knob protrusion on the middle key.

George




Perry 04-30-2004 09:35 PM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 

"Donna Becker" <dbecker5@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Se9kc.1969$Gq1.787@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> <Are you folks happy with XM ?>
> YES - YES - YES! I have my presets to 60s, 70s, 3 classical music

stations
> and CNN news. Hubby likes the Country stations like Hanks Place. IT IS

SO
> COOL!!! We get it free for 3 months. Even my son likes it - and he is 30
> and hard to impress. I hear it is only $9.99 per month. Your friend

should
> have got the leather with navi and the XM. It really is worth it! Of
> course back when I was young I couldn't even afford to get the A/C option

or
> an automatic trans. DonnaB
>


I subscribe to Sirius, and I will say this, satellite radio is a great thing
:O)
>




JAC 05-01-2004 11:22 AM

Re: Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:37:08 GMT, "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten>
wrote:

> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone
>switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now everyone
>with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie three
>hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free?


Why? How about variety? Choice?

> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In
>places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station can't
>come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny
>antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to
>impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on.
>
> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.


I think that is much too highly subjective to state as a general rule.

Robert Blank 05-02-2004 10:48 AM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 
are you that shallow that if outher people make fun of your antenna, it
will affect your decision as to how you equip your automobile?

Aron <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote:

> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone
> switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now everyone
> with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie three
> hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free?
>
> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In
> places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station can't
> come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny
> antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to
> impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on.
>
> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.
>
> Aron
>
> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > Hello:
> >
> > Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person
> > with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come
> > with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will
> > have to do it the hard way, I guess.
> >
> > a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car have

> an
> > aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use the
> > small fm transmitter that
> > you can purchase for it ?
> >
> > b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car.
> > The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as the
> > glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it works

> if
> > you
> > place it on the rear inside shelf.
> >
> > Are both of these statements true ?
> > Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ?
> >
> > c. Not too sure what else to ask.
> >
> > Are you folks happy with XM ?
> > Works well ?
> > Worth it, in your opinion ?
> >
> > Any caveats, etc. ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
> >


L Alpert 05-02-2004 11:09 AM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 
Robert Blank wrote:
> are you that shallow that if outher people make fun of your antenna,
> it will affect your decision as to how you equip your automobile?


And the antenna really isn't that bad.

>
> Aron <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote:
>
>> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too.
>> Everyone switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV.
>> Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour
>> and a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when it's
>> already free?
>>
>> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store.
>> In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital
>> station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make
>> fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically,
>> you're only going to impress the people that need the newest thing
>> to spend money on.
>>
>> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.
>>
>> Aron
>>
>> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person
>>> with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come
>>> with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will
>>> have to do it the hard way, I guess.
>>>
>>> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car
>>> have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must
>>> one use the small fm transmitter that
>>> you can purchase for it ?
>>>
>>> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car.
>>> The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard,
>>> as the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also
>>> said it works if you
>>> place it on the rear inside shelf.
>>>
>>> Are both of these statements true ?
>>> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ?
>>>
>>> c. Not too sure what else to ask.
>>>
>>> Are you folks happy with XM ?
>>> Works well ?
>>> Worth it, in your opinion ?
>>>
>>> Any caveats, etc. ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob




Elmo P. Shagnasty 05-02-2004 08:11 PM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 
In article <1gd5nbr.bb2oj91havkiqN%bob@NOblankproductions.com >,
bob@NOblankproductions.com (Robert Blank) wrote:

> are you that shallow that if outher people make fun of your antenna, it
> will affect your decision as to how you equip your automobile?


He had problems in high school gym. Some things, people never get over.


Aron 05-17-2004 09:21 AM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 

"Masterson" <adam@soundsolutionsmd.com> wrote in message
news:4KWdnVzfE9m0hgzd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> >>>Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too.

> Actually, XM just recently increased the number of comercial free

stations.
>
>
> >>>everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and

> a half movie three hours long.
> My HBO plays movies straight though, yours puts ads in the middle?

And how much EXTRA do yu PAY for HBO? I was talking about the standard
cable stations, not the premium stations.


>
>
> >>>Why pay for radio when it's already free?

> Cause my local stations don't have CNN, FOXnews, MLB or NFL
> games. I also cant get any NASCAR races on fm. ohhh wait.....
> I also can't get a 24hour Comedy channel. (it goes on and on and on)

You don't have CNN or FOX news but you do have NPR on FM and AM has at least
MLB and plenty of news. I don't listen to the radio for sports so I can't
be certain but I bet you can find other sportscasting on AM. Well maybe you
aren't in an area with a good selection of stations or something but in the
New York area there are tons of sttions.

>
>
> >>>In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone.

> Nothing is perfect, but its much better then most FM signals.

You have no chance of hearing what going on if it cuts out. You can hear
through most AM/FM signal problems. If you're trying to listen to
information or music, continuity is important.

>
>
> >>>A digital station can't come in unless it's clear.

> If you like the sound of static, its ok. I understand.
> Some dont like the sound, so no signal is better then raw noise. Also,
> I dont have a single problem getting receiption. Owned it for more
> then a year now......never a droped signal.

This may be your experience but it doesn't describe XM in general because I
have experience repeated dropped signals on a regular basis on a
professionally installed system. I'm sure it depends mostly on the area.

>
>
> >>>I hear people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the

roof.
> Dont be foolish. Not a good reason at all for not liking it.

But it might be a good reason not to do it. I be you wouldn't wear clown
shoes to school or work (unless of course you work as a clown or something)
even if you liked them.



Aron 05-17-2004 09:30 AM

Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
 

"RankAndFile" <rankandfile@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:E9ckc.4479$wY.2554@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote in message
> news:oq8kc.14812$gH6.11423@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone
> > switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now

everyone
> > with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie

> three
> > hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free?

>
> You pay extra for commercial-free channels on cable. It's always been

that
> way even if it shouldn't be.
>
> OBTW, when cable first came out, my father told me he didn't get it for

the
> extra channels and ad-free stations. He got it so he could take that

nasty
> antenna off of his roof and it would provide better reception. Sounds

worth
> it to me.

Funny, in my area you still get fuzz and ghosting in cable programming. So
much for the great improvement. With a good areal you will get the local
stations equally well. If everyone didn't have cable there would be tons of
local stations, at least in metro areas, just like there are tons of radio
stations.

>
> > I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In
> > places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station

can't
> > come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny
> > antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to
> > impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on.

>
> The content of local radio absolutely sucks in comparison. That's why
> people will spend money on it.

perhaps

>
> >
> > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.

>
> I guess you can still listen to CDs or, in your case, cassettes.

I have had a CD player in my car since 1995. I listen to CDs all the time.

>
> > Aron
> >
> > "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > > Hello:
> > >
> > > Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person
> > > with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come
> > > with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will
> > > have to do it the hard way, I guess.
> > >
> > > a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car

have
> > an
> > > aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use

the
> > > small fm transmitter that
> > > you can purchase for it ?
> > >
> > > b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car.
> > > The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as

the
> > > glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it

> works
> > if
> > > you
> > > place it on the rear inside shelf.
> > >
> > > Are both of these statements true ?
> > > Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ?
> > >
> > > c. Not too sure what else to ask.
> > >
> > > Are you folks happy with XM ?
> > > Works well ?
> > > Worth it, in your opinion ?
> > >
> > > Any caveats, etc. ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bob
> > >

> >
> >

>





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