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XM Radio In Accord Questions
Hello:
Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will have to do it the hard way, I guess. a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use the small fm transmitter that you can purchase for it ? b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car. The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it works if you place it on the rear inside shelf. Are both of these statements true ? Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? c. Not too sure what else to ask. Are you folks happy with XM ? Works well ? Worth it, in your opinion ? Any caveats, etc. ? Thanks, Bob |
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Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone
switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free? I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on. Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. Aron "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... > Hello: > > Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person > with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come > with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will > have to do it the hard way, I guess. > > a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car have an > aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use the > small fm transmitter that > you can purchase for it ? > > b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car. > The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as the > glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it works if > you > place it on the rear inside shelf. > > Are both of these statements true ? > Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? > > c. Not too sure what else to ask. > > Are you folks happy with XM ? > Works well ? > Worth it, in your opinion ? > > Any caveats, etc. ? > > Thanks, > Bob > |
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>>>Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too.
Actually, XM just recently increased the number of comercial free stations. >>>everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie three hours long. My HBO plays movies straight though, yours puts ads in the middle? >>>Why pay for radio when it's already free? Cause my local stations don't have CNN, FOXnews, MLB or NFL games. I also cant get any NASCAR races on fm. ohhh wait..... I also can't get a 24hour Comedy channel. (it goes on and on and on) >>>In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. Nothing is perfect, but its much better then most FM signals. >>>A digital station can't come in unless it's clear. If you like the sound of static, its ok. I understand. Some dont like the sound, so no signal is better then raw noise. Also, I dont have a single problem getting receiption. Owned it for more then a year now......never a droped signal. >>>I hear people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. Dont be foolish. Not a good reason at all for not liking it. |
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<Are you folks happy with XM ?>
YES - YES - YES! I have my presets to 60s, 70s, 3 classical music stations and CNN news. Hubby likes the Country stations like Hanks Place. IT IS SO COOL!!! We get it free for 3 months. Even my son likes it - and he is 30 and hard to impress. I hear it is only $9.99 per month. Your friend should have got the leather with navi and the XM. It really is worth it! Of course back when I was young I couldn't even afford to get the A/C option or an automatic trans. DonnaB |
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"Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote in message
news:oq8kc.14812$gH6.11423@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net... > Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone > switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now everyone > with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie three > hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free? You pay extra for commercial-free channels on cable. It's always been that way even if it shouldn't be. OBTW, when cable first came out, my father told me he didn't get it for the extra channels and ad-free stations. He got it so he could take that nasty antenna off of his roof and it would provide better reception. Sounds worth it to me. > I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In > places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station can't > come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny > antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to > impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on. The content of local radio absolutely sucks in comparison. That's why people will spend money on it. > > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. I guess you can still listen to CDs or, in your case, cassettes. > Aron > > "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... > > Hello: > > > > Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person > > with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come > > with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will > > have to do it the hard way, I guess. > > > > a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car have > an > > aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use the > > small fm transmitter that > > you can purchase for it ? > > > > b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car. > > The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as the > > glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it works > if > > you > > place it on the rear inside shelf. > > > > Are both of these statements true ? > > Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? > > > > c. Not too sure what else to ask. > > > > Are you folks happy with XM ? > > Works well ? > > Worth it, in your opinion ? > > > > Any caveats, etc. ? > > > > Thanks, > > Bob > > > > |
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In article <oq8kc.14812$gH6.11423@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net>,
"Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > Basically, you're only going to > impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on. > > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. Basically, it's because basically you don't get it. |
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Aron wrote:
> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. > Everyone switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. > Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and > a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already > free? > > I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. > In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital > station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make > fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, > you're only going to impress the people that need the newest thing to > spend money on. > > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. I have one, and I probably wouldn't want to do without it now. I drove from the SF Bay area to the middle of Yosemite, and I didn't loose it until I got almost to the middle of the park. I never loose it around town...... So far, no commercials are only on the music stations. CNN, MSNBC, ESPN radio, et al have commercials. > > Aron > > "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... >> Hello: >> >> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person >> with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come >> with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will >> have to do it the hard way, I guess. >> >> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car >> have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must >> one use the small fm transmitter that >> you can purchase for it ? >> >> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car. >> The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as >> the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said >> it works if you >> place it on the rear inside shelf. >> >> Are both of these statements true ? >> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? >> >> c. Not too sure what else to ask. >> >> Are you folks happy with XM ? >> Works well ? >> Worth it, in your opinion ? >> >> Any caveats, etc. ? >> >> Thanks, >> Bob |
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" Not being illuminated is one of our peeves when we got our Accord
>> last year but after a month, thanks that it not illuminated. You >> will get so used to its placement you won't even be thinking which >> button to push for volume or channels." --------------- I wish they had used Braille-like keys. It would be a lot easier to find the right one with your finger. Sort of like a hand calculator with the knob protrusion on the middle key. George |
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"Donna Becker" <dbecker5@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message news:Se9kc.1969$Gq1.787@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > <Are you folks happy with XM ?> > YES - YES - YES! I have my presets to 60s, 70s, 3 classical music stations > and CNN news. Hubby likes the Country stations like Hanks Place. IT IS SO > COOL!!! We get it free for 3 months. Even my son likes it - and he is 30 > and hard to impress. I hear it is only $9.99 per month. Your friend should > have got the leather with navi and the XM. It really is worth it! Of > course back when I was young I couldn't even afford to get the A/C option or > an automatic trans. DonnaB > I subscribe to Sirius, and I will say this, satellite radio is a great thing :O) > |
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:37:08 GMT, "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten>
wrote: > Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone >switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now everyone >with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie three >hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free? Why? How about variety? Choice? > I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In >places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station can't >come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny >antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to >impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on. > > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. I think that is much too highly subjective to state as a general rule. |
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are you that shallow that if outher people make fun of your antenna, it
will affect your decision as to how you equip your automobile? Aron <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone > switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now everyone > with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie three > hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free? > > I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In > places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station can't > come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny > antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to > impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on. > > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. > > Aron > > "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... > > Hello: > > > > Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person > > with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come > > with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will > > have to do it the hard way, I guess. > > > > a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car have > an > > aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use the > > small fm transmitter that > > you can purchase for it ? > > > > b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car. > > The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as the > > glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it works > if > > you > > place it on the rear inside shelf. > > > > Are both of these statements true ? > > Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? > > > > c. Not too sure what else to ask. > > > > Are you folks happy with XM ? > > Works well ? > > Worth it, in your opinion ? > > > > Any caveats, etc. ? > > > > Thanks, > > Bob > > |
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Robert Blank wrote:
> are you that shallow that if outher people make fun of your antenna, > it will affect your decision as to how you equip your automobile? And the antenna really isn't that bad. > > Aron <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > >> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. >> Everyone switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. >> Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour >> and a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when it's >> already free? >> >> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. >> In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital >> station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make >> fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, >> you're only going to impress the people that need the newest thing >> to spend money on. >> >> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. >> >> Aron >> >> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... >>> Hello: >>> >>> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person >>> with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come >>> with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will >>> have to do it the hard way, I guess. >>> >>> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car >>> have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must >>> one use the small fm transmitter that >>> you can purchase for it ? >>> >>> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car. >>> The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, >>> as the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also >>> said it works if you >>> place it on the rear inside shelf. >>> >>> Are both of these statements true ? >>> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? >>> >>> c. Not too sure what else to ask. >>> >>> Are you folks happy with XM ? >>> Works well ? >>> Worth it, in your opinion ? >>> >>> Any caveats, etc. ? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bob |
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In article <1gd5nbr.bb2oj91havkiqN%bob@NOblankproductions.com >,
bob@NOblankproductions.com (Robert Blank) wrote: > are you that shallow that if outher people make fun of your antenna, it > will affect your decision as to how you equip your automobile? He had problems in high school gym. Some things, people never get over. |
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"Masterson" <adam@soundsolutionsmd.com> wrote in message news:4KWdnVzfE9m0hgzd4p2dnA@comcast.com... > >>>Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. > Actually, XM just recently increased the number of comercial free stations. > > > >>>everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and > a half movie three hours long. > My HBO plays movies straight though, yours puts ads in the middle? And how much EXTRA do yu PAY for HBO? I was talking about the standard cable stations, not the premium stations. > > > >>>Why pay for radio when it's already free? > Cause my local stations don't have CNN, FOXnews, MLB or NFL > games. I also cant get any NASCAR races on fm. ohhh wait..... > I also can't get a 24hour Comedy channel. (it goes on and on and on) You don't have CNN or FOX news but you do have NPR on FM and AM has at least MLB and plenty of news. I don't listen to the radio for sports so I can't be certain but I bet you can find other sportscasting on AM. Well maybe you aren't in an area with a good selection of stations or something but in the New York area there are tons of sttions. > > > >>>In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. > Nothing is perfect, but its much better then most FM signals. You have no chance of hearing what going on if it cuts out. You can hear through most AM/FM signal problems. If you're trying to listen to information or music, continuity is important. > > > >>>A digital station can't come in unless it's clear. > If you like the sound of static, its ok. I understand. > Some dont like the sound, so no signal is better then raw noise. Also, > I dont have a single problem getting receiption. Owned it for more > then a year now......never a droped signal. This may be your experience but it doesn't describe XM in general because I have experience repeated dropped signals on a regular basis on a professionally installed system. I'm sure it depends mostly on the area. > > > >>>I hear people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. > Dont be foolish. Not a good reason at all for not liking it. But it might be a good reason not to do it. I be you wouldn't wear clown shoes to school or work (unless of course you work as a clown or something) even if you liked them. |
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"RankAndFile" <rankandfile@nospam.net> wrote in message news:E9ckc.4479$wY.2554@nwrdny03.gnilink.net... > "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote in message > news:oq8kc.14812$gH6.11423@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net... > > Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone > > switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now everyone > > with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie > three > > hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free? > > You pay extra for commercial-free channels on cable. It's always been that > way even if it shouldn't be. > > OBTW, when cable first came out, my father told me he didn't get it for the > extra channels and ad-free stations. He got it so he could take that nasty > antenna off of his roof and it would provide better reception. Sounds worth > it to me. Funny, in my area you still get fuzz and ghosting in cable programming. So much for the great improvement. With a good areal you will get the local stations equally well. If everyone didn't have cable there would be tons of local stations, at least in metro areas, just like there are tons of radio stations. > > > I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In > > places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station can't > > come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny > > antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to > > impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on. > > The content of local radio absolutely sucks in comparison. That's why > people will spend money on it. perhaps > > > > > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. > > I guess you can still listen to CDs or, in your case, cassettes. I have had a CD player in my car since 1995. I listen to CDs all the time. > > > Aron > > > > "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... > > > Hello: > > > > > > Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person > > > with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come > > > with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will > > > have to do it the hard way, I guess. > > > > > > a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car have > > an > > > aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use the > > > small fm transmitter that > > > you can purchase for it ? > > > > > > b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car. > > > The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as the > > > glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it > works > > if > > > you > > > place it on the rear inside shelf. > > > > > > Are both of these statements true ? > > > Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? > > > > > > c. Not too sure what else to ask. > > > > > > Are you folks happy with XM ? > > > Works well ? > > > Worth it, in your opinion ? > > > > > > Any caveats, etc. ? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bob > > > > > > > > |
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Basically, I don't want it. I don't think it is worth spending more on. I
guess that makes you uncomfortable. "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-51A0C5.18200829042004@news.usenetserver.com... > In article <oq8kc.14812$gH6.11423@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net>, > "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > > > Basically, you're only going to > > impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on. > > > > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. > > Basically, it's because basically you don't get it. > |
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That's pretty good. I wouldn't want an extra bill in order to listen to the
radio though. I have never been anywhere I can remember where there was no radio coverage. I have, however been where there are only two stations and they both suck. I guess that's about equal to cutting out in Yosemite since either way I'd be popping in a CD. I don't like the idea of paying for radio. Paying for TV (cable) was the downfall of local television coverage and now you really can't get TV without paying a premium for it even though advertisers have already paid for it. Even in a metro area you only have a small number of broadcast television stations. I would hate to see that happen to radio. "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message news:_pjkc.1326$I%1.149423@attbi_s51... > Aron wrote: > > Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. > > Everyone switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. > > Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and > > a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already > > free? > > > > I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. > > In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital > > station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make > > fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, > > you're only going to impress the people that need the newest thing to > > spend money on. > > > > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. > > I have one, and I probably wouldn't want to do without it now. > > I drove from the SF Bay area to the middle of Yosemite, and I didn't loose > it until I got almost to the middle of the park. I never loose it around > town...... > > So far, no commercials are only on the music stations. CNN, MSNBC, ESPN > radio, et al have commercials. > > > > > Aron > > > > "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... > >> Hello: > >> > >> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person > >> with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come > >> with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will > >> have to do it the hard way, I guess. > >> > >> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car > >> have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must > >> one use the small fm transmitter that > >> you can purchase for it ? > >> > >> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car. > >> The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as > >> the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said > >> it works if you > >> place it on the rear inside shelf. > >> > >> Are both of these statements true ? > >> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? > >> > >> c. Not too sure what else to ask. > >> > >> Are you folks happy with XM ? > >> Works well ? > >> Worth it, in your opinion ? > >> > >> Any caveats, etc. ? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Bob > > |
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Not really but I do try not to look like an idiot. If it's important enough
to me then I'm not going to do it even if others aren't understanding. "Robert Blank" <bob@NOblankproductions.com> wrote in message news:1gd5nbr.bb2oj91havkiqN%bob@NOblankproductions .com... > are you that shallow that if outher people make fun of your antenna, it > will affect your decision as to how you equip your automobile? > > Aron <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > > > Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone > > switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now everyone > > with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie three > > hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free? > > > > I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In > > places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station can't > > come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny > > antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to > > impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on. > > > > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. > > > > Aron > > > > "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... > > > Hello: > > > > > > Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person > > > with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come > > > with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will > > > have to do it the hard way, I guess. > > > > > > a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car have > > an > > > aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use the > > > small fm transmitter that > > > you can purchase for it ? > > > > > > b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car. > > > The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as the > > > glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it works > > if > > > you > > > place it on the rear inside shelf. > > > > > > Are both of these statements true ? > > > Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? > > > > > > c. Not too sure what else to ask. > > > > > > Are you folks happy with XM ? > > > Works well ? > > > Worth it, in your opinion ? > > > > > > Any caveats, etc. ? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bob > > > |
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Hello Aron...
Congrats on coming back to a conversation that ended two weeks ago. >You don't have CNN or FOX news but you do have NPR on FM >and AM has at least MLB and plenty of news. You dont get it do you? When I said "CNN and FOX" I wasnt talking about getting any news, I was talking about CNN and FOX. I dont get them on local free stations. >I don't listen to the radio for sports so I can't be certain but I bet you >can find other sportscasting on AM. OK...so you say you "dont listen to the radio for sports" but yet you feel the need to act like AM has a lot of sports? Local AM only has LOCAL sports. Like ONE game a weekend. Sat radio offers EVERY MBL game in the country. and in the future EVERY NFL game. Local AM/FM doesnt offer anything near that. >This may be your experience but it doesn't describe XM in general because I >have experience repeated dropped signals on a regular basis on a >professionally installed system. I'm sure it depends mostly on the area. Here is were you are wrong. I'm sorry that you have had a bad experience. But did you read the other posts in this thread? 90% of the people that responded said they get great reception. The other 9% didnt mention reception, but had a positive oppinion of Sat radio. So far you are alone on this issue. >>>I hear people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. >>Dont be foolish. Not a good reason at all for not liking it. >But it might be a good reason not to do it. I be you wouldn't wear clown shoes >to school or work (unless of course you work as a clown or something) >even if you liked them. Still a foolish reason. Nothing you've said changes that. Just as foolish as this..... "I have a FM/AM stereo in my car. I only listen to AM cause I dont like the letter F" Officially I am done with this thread. |
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In article <th3qc.11694$zO3.1021@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
"Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > That's pretty good. I wouldn't want an extra bill in order to listen to the > radio though. That's funny. I bet you buy bottles of water for a dollar. I bet you go to Starbucks and overpay for coffee. But ten bucks a month for commercial free music in the car, now that's different. Right? > I have never been anywhere I can remember where there was no > radio coverage. Well, now, if you consider the Reverend Billy Joe Bob to be radio worth listening to, you may be right. > I don't like the idea of paying for > radio. Remember that the next time you buy a bottle of water. > Paying for TV (cable) was the downfall of local television coverage > and now you really can't get TV without paying a premium for it even though > advertisers have already paid for it. Radio has already gone down the tubes. Ten bucks a month for the privilege of NOT listening to a Clear Channel station is well worth it. I'll give up the two cups of Starbucks per month for that. > Even in a metro area you only have a > small number of broadcast television stations. I would hate to see that > happen to radio. It's already happened. |
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Aron wrote:
> Basically, I don't want it. I don't think it is worth spending more > on. I guess that makes you uncomfortable. > > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message > news:elmop-51A0C5.18200829042004@news.usenetserver.com... >> In article <oq8kc.14812$gH6.11423@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net>, >> "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: >> >>> Basically, you're only going to >>> impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on. >>> >>> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. >> >> Basically, it's because basically you don't get it. Value is in the eye of the beholder. |
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Aron wrote:
> That's pretty good. I wouldn't want an extra bill in order to listen > to the radio though. I have never been anywhere I can remember where > there was no radio coverage. I can think of a few places where radio coverage was minimal. I like the idea of having the same stations all the time, no matter where one is. As far as the bill, as I said before, value is in the eye of the beholder. For me, it is worth the $10 a month. >I have, however been where there are > only two stations and they both suck. I guess that's about equal to > cutting out in Yosemite since either way I'd be popping in a CD. Always a good alternative, though those CD's do cost money, so either way, it is paid for. >I > don't like the idea of paying for radio. Paying for TV (cable) was > the downfall of local television coverage and now you really can't > get TV without paying a premium for it even though advertisers have > already paid for it. Even in a metro area you only have a small > number of broadcast television stations. I would hate to see that > happen to radio. I get 16 stations with my OTA antenna on the roof (funny how things have a habit of coming back in style), 11 digital, and 7 or 8 that offer HD content. > > "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message > news:_pjkc.1326$I%1.149423@attbi_s51... >> Aron wrote: >>> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. >>> Everyone switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. >>> Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour >>> and a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when it's >>> already free? >>> >>> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. >>> In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital >>> station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make >>> fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, >>> you're only going to impress the people that need the newest thing >>> to spend money on. >>> >>> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. >> >> I have one, and I probably wouldn't want to do without it now. >> >> I drove from the SF Bay area to the middle of Yosemite, and I didn't >> loose it until I got almost to the middle of the park. I never >> loose it around town...... >> >> So far, no commercials are only on the music stations. CNN, MSNBC, >> ESPN radio, et al have commercials. >> >>> >>> Aron >>> >>> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... >>>> Hello: >>>> >>>> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person >>>> with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come >>>> with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so >>>> will have to do it the hard way, I guess. >>>> >>>> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car >>>> have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must >>>> one use the small fm transmitter that >>>> you can purchase for it ? >>>> >>>> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car. >>>> The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, >>>> as the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also >>>> said it works if you >>>> place it on the rear inside shelf. >>>> >>>> Are both of these statements true ? >>>> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? >>>> >>>> c. Not too sure what else to ask. >>>> >>>> Are you folks happy with XM ? >>>> Works well ? >>>> Worth it, in your opinion ? >>>> >>>> Any caveats, etc. ? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bob |
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hi there,
i saw your posting on the honda newsgroup and wanted to know how you solved your installation of the xm satellite in your '04 accord lx. i have a brand new '04 accord with the same set up as you (ie lx with the 6 cd unit). can you tell me first of all if you are enjoying the xm service? i too am considering the fm modulator; did you go with this? how's it working? what all did they have to do to your car to get the xm installed? where did you put the antenna? anything else that might help me finalize my decision regarding xm? thanks for your time. appreciate any help that you can offer. regards, roger "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote in message news:i%2qc.11622$zO3.286@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... > > "Masterson" <adam@soundsolutionsmd.com> wrote in message > news:4KWdnVzfE9m0hgzd4p2dnA@comcast.com... > > >>>Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. > > Actually, XM just recently increased the number of comercial free > stations. > > > > > > >>>everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and > > a half movie three hours long. > > My HBO plays movies straight though, yours puts ads in the middle? > And how much EXTRA do yu PAY for HBO? I was talking about the standard > cable stations, not the premium stations. > > > > > > > > >>>Why pay for radio when it's already free? > > Cause my local stations don't have CNN, FOXnews, MLB or NFL > > games. I also cant get any NASCAR races on fm. ohhh wait..... > > I also can't get a 24hour Comedy channel. (it goes on and on and on) > You don't have CNN or FOX news but you do have NPR on FM and AM has at least > MLB and plenty of news. I don't listen to the radio for sports so I can't > be certain but I bet you can find other sportscasting on AM. Well maybe you > aren't in an area with a good selection of stations or something but in the > New York area there are tons of sttions. > > > > > > > >>>In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. > > Nothing is perfect, but its much better then most FM signals. > You have no chance of hearing what going on if it cuts out. You can hear > through most AM/FM signal problems. If you're trying to listen to > information or music, continuity is important. > > > > > > > >>>A digital station can't come in unless it's clear. > > If you like the sound of static, its ok. I understand. > > Some dont like the sound, so no signal is better then raw noise. Also, > > I dont have a single problem getting receiption. Owned it for more > > then a year now......never a droped signal. > This may be your experience but it doesn't describe XM in general because I > have experience repeated dropped signals on a regular basis on a > professionally installed system. I'm sure it depends mostly on the area. > > > > > > > >>>I hear people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the > roof. > > Dont be foolish. Not a good reason at all for not liking it. > But it might be a good reason not to do it. I be you wouldn't wear clown > shoes to school or work (unless of course you work as a clown or something) > even if you liked them. > > |
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Roger Williams wrote:
> hi there, > > i saw your posting on the honda newsgroup and wanted to know how you > solved your installation of the xm satellite in your '04 accord lx. > i have a brand new '04 accord with the same set up as you (ie lx with > the 6 cd unit). > > can you tell me first of all if you are enjoying the xm service? Immensely. > > i too am considering the fm modulator; did you go with this? how's it > working? > > what all did they have to do to your car to get the xm installed? I have the NAV system, so it came with it it. > > where did you put the antenna? I came installed on the roof. Standard for the V6 EX with NAV..... > > anything else that might help me finalize my decision regarding xm? If you hate insulting and ridiculous commercials and blathering announcers, it's great. > > thanks for your time. appreciate any help that you can offer. > > regards, > > roger > > "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote in message > news:i%2qc.11622$zO3.286@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... >> >> "Masterson" <adam@soundsolutionsmd.com> wrote in message >> news:4KWdnVzfE9m0hgzd4p2dnA@comcast.com... >>>>>> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. >>> Actually, XM just recently increased the number of comercial free >>> stations. >>> >>> >>>>>> everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and >>> a half movie three hours long. >>> My HBO plays movies straight though, yours puts ads in the middle? >> And how much EXTRA do yu PAY for HBO? I was talking about the >> standard cable stations, not the premium stations. >> >> >>> >>> >>>>>> Why pay for radio when it's already free? >>> Cause my local stations don't have CNN, FOXnews, MLB or NFL >>> games. I also cant get any NASCAR races on fm. ohhh wait..... >>> I also can't get a 24hour Comedy channel. (it goes on and on and on) >> You don't have CNN or FOX news but you do have NPR on FM and AM has >> at least MLB and plenty of news. I don't listen to the radio for >> sports so I can't be certain but I bet you can find other >> sportscasting on AM. Well maybe you aren't in an area with a good >> selection of stations or something but in the New York area there >> are tons of sttions. >> >>> >>> >>>>>> In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. >>> Nothing is perfect, but its much better then most FM signals. >> You have no chance of hearing what going on if it cuts out. You can >> hear through most AM/FM signal problems. If you're trying to listen >> to information or music, continuity is important. >> >>> >>> >>>>>> A digital station can't come in unless it's clear. >>> If you like the sound of static, its ok. I understand. >>> Some dont like the sound, so no signal is better then raw noise. >>> Also, I dont have a single problem getting receiption. Owned it >>> for more then a year now......never a droped signal. >> This may be your experience but it doesn't describe XM in general >> because I have experience repeated dropped signals on a regular >> basis on a professionally installed system. I'm sure it depends >> mostly on the area. >> >>> >>> >>>>>> I hear people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on >>>>>> the >> roof. >>> Dont be foolish. Not a good reason at all for not liking it. >> But it might be a good reason not to do it. I be you wouldn't wear >> clown shoes to school or work (unless of course you work as a clown >> or something) even if you liked them. |
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> That's pretty good. I wouldn't want an extra bill in order to listen to the
> radio though. I have never been anywhere I can remember where there was no > radio coverage. You're thinking satellite radio is like "radio" as you know it. It isn't. No commercials. Better music. Bigger selections. Great sound quality. Try this. A typical FM station plays what, a thousand or fewer tracks? XM's music library has 2 million tracks. Even Sirius, while musically weak IMO, has half a million. It really isn't the same thing as "radio". I've had XM since Jan '02. I have four XM subscriptions plus one Sirius subscription. I've yet to meet anyone who has had XM and got rid of it. I would get rid of cable TV. But not XM. |
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We have two XM's where the antenna is just stuck to the dashboard (1
front, 1 rear deck) with a little velcro. Nobody has noticed it yet, AFAIK. Also, Honda is now putting the antenna inside the brake light housing on some vehicles I believe. Totally invisible. The new antennas are 1" square, roughly. > Not really but I do try not to look like an idiot. If it's important enough > to me then I'm not going to do it even if others aren't understanding. > |
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Remember when we were talking about XM 2 weeks and 1 day ago? I had a
couple questions. Did you calculate those percentages? Are you always this grumpy or do you feel threatened? Thanks. "Masterson" <adam@soundsolutionsmd.com> wrote in message news:he-dnRg0vrN3aTXdRVn_iw@comcast.com... > Hello Aron... > > Congrats on coming back to a conversation that ended two weeks ago. > > > >You don't have CNN or FOX news but you do have NPR on FM > >and AM has at least MLB and plenty of news. > > You dont get it do you? When I said "CNN and FOX" I wasnt talking > about getting any news, I was talking about CNN and FOX. I dont > get them on local free stations. > > >I don't listen to the radio for sports so I can't be certain but I bet you > >can find other sportscasting on AM. > > OK...so you say you "dont listen to the radio for sports" but yet you > feel the need to act like AM has a lot of sports? Local AM only has > LOCAL sports. Like ONE game a weekend. Sat radio offers EVERY > MBL game in the country. and in the future EVERY NFL game. > Local AM/FM doesnt offer anything near that. > > > >This may be your experience but it doesn't describe XM in general because I > >have experience repeated dropped signals on a regular basis on a > >professionally installed system. I'm sure it depends mostly on the area. > > Here is were you are wrong. I'm sorry that you have had a bad experience. > But did you read the other posts in this thread? 90% of the people that > responded > said they get great reception. The other 9% didnt mention reception, but > had a > positive oppinion of Sat radio. So far you are alone on this issue. > > > >>>I hear people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. > >>Dont be foolish. Not a good reason at all for not liking it. > >But it might be a good reason not to do it. I be you wouldn't wear clown > shoes > >to school or work (unless of course you work as a clown or something) > >even if you liked them. > > Still a foolish reason. Nothing you've said changes that. Just as foolish > as this..... > "I have a FM/AM stereo in my car. I only listen to AM cause I dont like the > letter F" > > > Officially I am done with this thread. > > > > |
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"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message news:v%cqc.69188$536.11230385@attbi_s03... > Aron wrote: > > Basically, I don't want it. I don't think it is worth spending more > > on. I guess that makes you uncomfortable. > > > > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message > > news:elmop-51A0C5.18200829042004@news.usenetserver.com... > >> In article <oq8kc.14812$gH6.11423@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net>, > >> "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > >> > >>> Basically, you're only going to > >>> impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on. > >>> > >>> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. > >> > >> Basically, it's because basically you don't get it. > > Value is in the eye of the beholder. > > |
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-39C042.17345117052004@news.usenetserver.com... > In article <th3qc.11694$zO3.1021@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>, > "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > > > That's pretty good. I wouldn't want an extra bill in order to listen to the > > radio though. > > That's funny. I bet you buy bottles of water for a dollar. I bet you > go to Starbucks and overpay for coffee. But ten bucks a month for > commercial free music in the car, now that's different. Right? No, Starbucks is a rip off and I don't go for the idea of buying water. > > I have never been anywhere I can remember where there was no > > radio coverage. > > Well, now, if you consider the Reverend Billy Joe Bob to be radio worth > listening to, you may be right. You deleted my following line that makes this comment of yours nonsequiter. > > I don't like the idea of paying for > > radio. > > Remember that the next time you buy a bottle of water. I don't like the idea of paying for water either. > > Paying for TV (cable) was the downfall of local television coverage > > and now you really can't get TV without paying a premium for it even though > > advertisers have already paid for it. > > Radio has already gone down the tubes. Ten bucks a month for the > privilege of NOT listening to a Clear Channel station is well worth it. > > I'll give up the two cups of Starbucks per month for that. OK, Clear Channel does suck and they are doing their best to monopolise the radio dial. > > Even in a metro area you only have a > > small number of broadcast television stations. I would hate to see that > > happen to radio. > > It's already happened. I think you are confusing a small selection of content providers (Clear Channel) with a small number of stations. |
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I like the idea of getting something that is the expression of the local
community. I hate when I am hundreds of miles away from home and I realize I'm listening to another Clear Channel station regurgitating the same contrived crap based on marketing. I feel ripped off. It's like if when I talked to you, you talked to me in the scripted manor of many over the phone customer service departments. I wouldn't be pleased because I wouldn't be talking to an individual, I'd be talking to the same script with a different voice - a load of crap. So I am all for local culture. I go to a place to experience a place not to be in my own bubble. Sure I would like the ability to tune in to those familiar stations back home sometimes but I think it's kind of sick when places don't have their own voice. Just the same, I carry enough CDs on a trip to last if that's the mood I'm in so in the end I don't see how I'd really get anything out of that $10/mo. Also, keep in mind that it'll be cheap now but the price will probably go through the roof if XM dominates. I don't want to be stuck getting soaked for a service for the basic things. Anyway, like you said value is in the eye of the beholder. "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message news:f4dqc.69196$536.11235489@attbi_s03... > Aron wrote: > > That's pretty good. I wouldn't want an extra bill in order to listen > > to the radio though. I have never been anywhere I can remember where > > there was no radio coverage. > > I can think of a few places where radio coverage was minimal. I like the > idea of having the same stations all the time, no matter where one is. > > As far as the bill, as I said before, value is in the eye of the beholder. > For me, it is worth the $10 a month. > > >I have, however been where there are > > only two stations and they both suck. I guess that's about equal to > > cutting out in Yosemite since either way I'd be popping in a CD. > > Always a good alternative, though those CD's do cost money, so either way, > it is paid for. > > >I > > don't like the idea of paying for radio. Paying for TV (cable) was > > the downfall of local television coverage and now you really can't > > get TV without paying a premium for it even though advertisers have > > already paid for it. Even in a metro area you only have a small > > number of broadcast television stations. I would hate to see that > > happen to radio. > > I get 16 stations with my OTA antenna on the roof (funny how things have a > habit of coming back in style), 11 digital, and 7 or 8 that offer HD > content. > > > > > > > "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message > > news:_pjkc.1326$I%1.149423@attbi_s51... > >> Aron wrote: > >>> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. > >>> Everyone switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. > >>> Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour > >>> and a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when it's > >>> already free? > >>> > >>> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. > >>> In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital > >>> station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make > >>> fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, > >>> you're only going to impress the people that need the newest thing > >>> to spend money on. > >>> > >>> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. > >> > >> I have one, and I probably wouldn't want to do without it now. > >> > >> I drove from the SF Bay area to the middle of Yosemite, and I didn't > >> loose it until I got almost to the middle of the park. I never > >> loose it around town...... > >> > >> So far, no commercials are only on the music stations. CNN, MSNBC, > >> ESPN radio, et al have commercials. > >> > >>> > >>> Aron > >>> > >>> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message > >>> news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... > >>>> Hello: > >>>> > >>>> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person > >>>> with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come > >>>> with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so > >>>> will have to do it the hard way, I guess. > >>>> > >>>> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car > >>>> have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must > >>>> one use the small fm transmitter that > >>>> you can purchase for it ? > >>>> > >>>> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car. > >>>> The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, > >>>> as the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also > >>>> said it works if you > >>>> place it on the rear inside shelf. > >>>> > >>>> Are both of these statements true ? > >>>> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? > >>>> > >>>> c. Not too sure what else to ask. > >>>> > >>>> Are you folks happy with XM ? > >>>> Works well ? > >>>> Worth it, in your opinion ? > >>>> > >>>> Any caveats, etc. ? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Bob > > |
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I meant to say, "If it's important enough to me then I'm going to do it even
if others aren't understanding." "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote in message news:kl3qc.11712$zO3.7638@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net... > Not really but I do try not to look like an idiot. If it's important enough > to me then I'm not going to do it even if others aren't understanding. > > "Robert Blank" <bob@NOblankproductions.com> wrote in message > news:1gd5nbr.bb2oj91havkiqN%bob@NOblankproductions .com... > > are you that shallow that if outher people make fun of your antenna, it > > will affect your decision as to how you equip your automobile? > > > > Aron <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > > > > > Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone > > > switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now > everyone > > > with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie > three > > > hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free? > > > > > > I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In > > > places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station > can't > > > come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny > > > antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to > > > impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on. > > > > > > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. > > > > > > Aron > > > > > > "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message > > > news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... > > > > Hello: > > > > > > > > Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person > > > > with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come > > > > with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will > > > > have to do it the hard way, I guess. > > > > > > > > a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car > have > > > an > > > > aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use > the > > > > small fm transmitter that > > > > you can purchase for it ? > > > > > > > > b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car. > > > > The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as > the > > > > glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it > works > > > if > > > > you > > > > place it on the rear inside shelf. > > > > > > > > Are both of these statements true ? > > > > Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? > > > > > > > > c. Not too sure what else to ask. > > > > > > > > Are you folks happy with XM ? > > > > Works well ? > > > > Worth it, in your opinion ? > > > > > > > > Any caveats, etc. ? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bob > > > > > > |
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In article <TJ3vc.33947$zO3.10743@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net>,
"Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > > > Even in a metro area you only have a > > > small number of broadcast television stations. I would hate to see that > > > happen to radio. > > > > It's already happened. > > > I think you are confusing a small selection of content providers (Clear > Channel) with a small number of stations. When a single content provider owns a large number of frequencies, it's no different than Starbucks owning every corner. Just because I can physically move from one frequency to another, doesn't mean I'm moving from station to station or content to content. |
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Aron wrote:
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message > news:elmop-39C042.17345117052004@news.usenetserver.com... >> In article <th3qc.11694$zO3.1021@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>, >> "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: >> >>> That's pretty good. I wouldn't want an extra bill in order to >>> listen to the radio though. >> >> That's funny. I bet you buy bottles of water for a dollar. I bet >> you go to Starbucks and overpay for coffee. But ten bucks a month >> for commercial free music in the car, now that's different. Right? > > > No, Starbucks is a rip off and I don't go for the idea of buying > water. I go to 7-11, and I have my own home filtration for drinking water..... And I still like my XM...... > > >>> I have never been anywhere I can remember where there was no >>> radio coverage. >> >> Well, now, if you consider the Reverend Billy Joe Bob to be radio >> worth listening to, you may be right. > > > You deleted my following line that makes this comment of yours > nonsequiter. > > >>> I don't like the idea of paying for >>> radio. >> >> Remember that the next time you buy a bottle of water. > > > I don't like the idea of paying for water either. > > > >>> Paying for TV (cable) was the downfall of local television coverage >>> and now you really can't get TV without paying a premium for it >>> even though advertisers have already paid for it. >> >> Radio has already gone down the tubes. Ten bucks a month for the >> privilege of NOT listening to a Clear Channel station is well worth >> it. >> >> I'll give up the two cups of Starbucks per month for that. > > > OK, Clear Channel does suck and they are doing their best to > monopolise the radio dial. > > >>> Even in a metro area you only have a >>> small number of broadcast television stations. I would hate to see >>> that happen to radio. >> >> It's already happened. > > > I think you are confusing a small selection of content providers > (Clear Channel) with a small number of stations. |
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Aron wrote:
> I like the idea of getting something that is the expression of the > local community. I hate when I am hundreds of miles away from home > and I realize I'm listening to another Clear Channel station > regurgitating the same contrived crap based on marketing. I feel > ripped off. It's like if when I talked to you, you talked to me in > the scripted manor of many over the phone customer service > departments. I wouldn't be pleased because I wouldn't be talking to > an individual, I'd be talking to the same script with a different > voice - a load of crap. So I am all for local culture. I go to a > place to experience a place not to be in my own bubble. Sure I would > like the ability to tune in to those familiar stations back home > sometimes but I think it's kind of sick when places don't have their > own voice. Just the same, I carry enough CDs on a trip to last if > that's the mood I'm in so in the end I don't see how I'd really get > anything out of that $10/mo. Also, keep in mind that it'll be cheap > now but the price will probably go through the roof if XM dominates. > I don't want to be stuck getting soaked for a service for the basic > things. Anyway, like you said value is in the eye of the beholder. Yes, but remember those CD's cost money as well (I know, I have a huge stack of them. I even have a rack of a few hundred vinyl LPs. Either way, the music is paid for (unless you use kazaa or something similar). > > > "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message > news:f4dqc.69196$536.11235489@attbi_s03... >> Aron wrote: >>> That's pretty good. I wouldn't want an extra bill in order to >>> listen to the radio though. I have never been anywhere I can >>> remember where there was no radio coverage. >> >> I can think of a few places where radio coverage was minimal. I >> like the idea of having the same stations all the time, no matter >> where one is. >> >> As far as the bill, as I said before, value is in the eye of the >> beholder. For me, it is worth the $10 a month. >> >>> I have, however been where there are >>> only two stations and they both suck. I guess that's about equal to >>> cutting out in Yosemite since either way I'd be popping in a CD. >> >> Always a good alternative, though those CD's do cost money, so >> either way, it is paid for. >> >>> I >>> don't like the idea of paying for radio. Paying for TV (cable) was >>> the downfall of local television coverage and now you really can't >>> get TV without paying a premium for it even though advertisers have >>> already paid for it. Even in a metro area you only have a small >>> number of broadcast television stations. I would hate to see that >>> happen to radio. >> >> I get 16 stations with my OTA antenna on the roof (funny how things >> have a habit of coming back in style), 11 digital, and 7 or 8 that >> offer HD content. >> >> >> >>> >>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:_pjkc.1326$I%1.149423@attbi_s51... >>>> Aron wrote: >>>>> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. >>>>> Everyone switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast >>>>> TV. Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an >>>>> hour and a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when >>>>> it's already free? >>>>> >>>>> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a >>>>> store. In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A >>>>> digital station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear >>>>> people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. >>>>> Basically, you're only going to impress the people that need the >>>>> newest thing to spend money on. >>>>> >>>>> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. >>>> >>>> I have one, and I probably wouldn't want to do without it now. >>>> >>>> I drove from the SF Bay area to the middle of Yosemite, and I >>>> didn't loose it until I got almost to the middle of the park. I >>>> never loose it around town...... >>>> >>>> So far, no commercials are only on the music stations. CNN, MSNBC, >>>> ESPN radio, et al have commercials. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Aron >>>>> >>>>> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... >>>>>> Hello: >>>>>> >>>>>> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person >>>>>> with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come >>>>>> with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so >>>>>> will have to do it the hard way, I guess. >>>>>> >>>>>> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the >>>>>> car have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, >>>>>> or must one use the small fm transmitter that >>>>>> you can purchase for it ? >>>>>> >>>>>> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the >>>>>> car. The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the >>>>>> dashboard, as the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good >>>>>> sky view. Also said it works if you >>>>>> place it on the rear inside shelf. >>>>>> >>>>>> Are both of these statements true ? >>>>>> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? >>>>>> >>>>>> c. Not too sure what else to ask. >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you folks happy with XM ? >>>>>> Works well ? >>>>>> Worth it, in your opinion ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any caveats, etc. ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Bob |
Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
True but CDs are solid ad-free music and you have the right to play it as
long as you keep it. My point was that cable advertised that you pay for service, get more and better channels, and get no ads. Then everyone ended up paying for ad filled programming, when the ads already paid for the programming, because the only alternative was, say 2 fuzzy broadcast stations because broadcast TV was out of style. XM advertises the same thing. Pay a fee and get no ads, yet they already have plenty of stations with ads. So what's the deal? It might look like a good deal now with all the stations but if XM becomes the standard, like cable, and there's no competition, the price will go through the roof and so will the advertising. Keep in mind almost all of the "stations" or programming we hear anywhere are mostly owned by a very few companies such as Turner and Warner and their various versions. They know about the great economic success of cable and how it worked and they live to monopolize media. Their dream is for the exact same thing to happen with the radio. They want you to pay a fee for radio after it has already been paid for by advertising. That's how you make billions and billions. "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message news:RgSvc.4895$%F2.3778@attbi_s04... > Aron wrote: > > I like the idea of getting something that is the expression of the > > local community. I hate when I am hundreds of miles away from home > > and I realize I'm listening to another Clear Channel station > > regurgitating the same contrived crap based on marketing. I feel > > ripped off. It's like if when I talked to you, you talked to me in > > the scripted manor of many over the phone customer service > > departments. I wouldn't be pleased because I wouldn't be talking to > > an individual, I'd be talking to the same script with a different > > voice - a load of crap. So I am all for local culture. I go to a > > place to experience a place not to be in my own bubble. Sure I would > > like the ability to tune in to those familiar stations back home > > sometimes but I think it's kind of sick when places don't have their > > own voice. Just the same, I carry enough CDs on a trip to last if > > that's the mood I'm in so in the end I don't see how I'd really get > > anything out of that $10/mo. Also, keep in mind that it'll be cheap > > now but the price will probably go through the roof if XM dominates. > > I don't want to be stuck getting soaked for a service for the basic > > things. Anyway, like you said value is in the eye of the beholder. > > Yes, but remember those CD's cost money as well (I know, I have a huge stack > of them. I even have a rack of a few hundred vinyl LPs. > > Either way, the music is paid for (unless you use kazaa or something > similar). > > > > > > > "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message > > news:f4dqc.69196$536.11235489@attbi_s03... > >> Aron wrote: > >>> That's pretty good. I wouldn't want an extra bill in order to > >>> listen to the radio though. I have never been anywhere I can > >>> remember where there was no radio coverage. > >> > >> I can think of a few places where radio coverage was minimal. I > >> like the idea of having the same stations all the time, no matter > >> where one is. > >> > >> As far as the bill, as I said before, value is in the eye of the > >> beholder. For me, it is worth the $10 a month. > >> > >>> I have, however been where there are > >>> only two stations and they both suck. I guess that's about equal to > >>> cutting out in Yosemite since either way I'd be popping in a CD. > >> > >> Always a good alternative, though those CD's do cost money, so > >> either way, it is paid for. > >> > >>> I > >>> don't like the idea of paying for radio. Paying for TV (cable) was > >>> the downfall of local television coverage and now you really can't > >>> get TV without paying a premium for it even though advertisers have > >>> already paid for it. Even in a metro area you only have a small > >>> number of broadcast television stations. I would hate to see that > >>> happen to radio. > >> > >> I get 16 stations with my OTA antenna on the roof (funny how things > >> have a habit of coming back in style), 11 digital, and 7 or 8 that > >> offer HD content. > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message > >>> news:_pjkc.1326$I%1.149423@attbi_s51... > >>>> Aron wrote: > >>>>> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. > >>>>> Everyone switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast > >>>>> TV. Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an > >>>>> hour and a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when > >>>>> it's already free? > >>>>> > >>>>> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a > >>>>> store. In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A > >>>>> digital station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear > >>>>> people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. > >>>>> Basically, you're only going to impress the people that need the > >>>>> newest thing to spend money on. > >>>>> > >>>>> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. > >>>> > >>>> I have one, and I probably wouldn't want to do without it now. > >>>> > >>>> I drove from the SF Bay area to the middle of Yosemite, and I > >>>> didn't loose it until I got almost to the middle of the park. I > >>>> never loose it around town...... > >>>> > >>>> So far, no commercials are only on the music stations. CNN, MSNBC, > >>>> ESPN radio, et al have commercials. > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Aron > >>>>> > >>>>> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message > >>>>> news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... > >>>>>> Hello: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person > >>>>>> with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come > >>>>>> with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so > >>>>>> will have to do it the hard way, I guess. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the > >>>>>> car have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, > >>>>>> or must one use the small fm transmitter that > >>>>>> you can purchase for it ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the > >>>>>> car. The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the > >>>>>> dashboard, as the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good > >>>>>> sky view. Also said it works if you > >>>>>> place it on the rear inside shelf. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Are both of these statements true ? > >>>>>> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> c. Not too sure what else to ask. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Are you folks happy with XM ? > >>>>>> Works well ? > >>>>>> Worth it, in your opinion ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Any caveats, etc. ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Bob > > |
Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
In article <9GYvc.37439$zO3.34527@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net>,
"Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > True but CDs are solid ad-free music and you have the right to play it as > long as you keep it. My point was that cable advertised that you pay for > service, get more and better channels, and get no ads. Then everyone ended > up paying for ad filled programming, when the ads already paid for the > programming, because the only alternative was, say 2 fuzzy broadcast > stations because broadcast TV was out of style. XM advertises the same > thing. Pay a fee and get no ads, yet they already have plenty of stations > with ads. So what's the deal? It might look like a good deal now with all > the stations but if XM becomes the standard, like cable, and there's no > competition, the price will go through the roof and so will the advertising. And then you stop paying the subscription fee, and move on to something else. Until then, listen to the ad-free music stations and enjoy. |
Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
In article <elmop-DF3219.07452304062004@text.usenetserver.com> "Elmo P.
Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> writes: >Until then, listen to the ad-free music stations and enjoy. XM music channels will remain ad-free as long as it is economical for them to do so. As long as new subscriptions keep pouring in, as they currently are, the folks at XM are enjoying their first positive cash flow since going into business. -- Support XM Satellite Radio! Tell the FCC how you feel about the Natl Assn of Broadcasters' attempts to block local content! We need your help. <http://www.xmradio.com/grassroots/index.jsp> <http://www.cato.org/tech/tk/040120-tk.html> |
Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
Aron wrote:
> True but CDs are solid ad-free music and you have the right to play > it as long as you keep it. My point was that cable advertised that > you pay for service, get more and better channels, and get no ads. I don't remember this claim at all. I remember more/better programming, though the jury is still out on that (especially if one watches TVland quite a bit!). Premium channels are "add free", except for the "ads" for their own programs. I will usually sit down and watch an HBO movie before commercial TV, as I think the ads are insulting, at best. > Then everyone ended up paying for ad filled programming, when the ads > already paid for the programming, because the only alternative was, > say 2 fuzzy broadcast stations because broadcast TV was out of style. I can get just about 20 stations of "free" tv as well with my new antenna. I use it mostly for HD sports and specials. > XM advertises the same thing. Pay a fee and get no ads, yet they > already have plenty of stations with ads. So what's the deal? The stations I listen to have no ads. Only music. >It > might look like a good deal now with all the stations but if XM > becomes the standard, like cable, and there's no competition, the > price will go through the roof and so will the advertising. Other then using satellite services, there is little hard infrastructure needed for XM or Sirrus radio. All the user needs is a radio and an antenna. Since most new cars are coming equipped with them, the subscribers will go up. Will one end up on top and squash the competition? Maybe, but there is no need for exclusive franchises from different towns and cities as there is for cable. > Keep in > mind almost all of the "stations" or programming we hear anywhere are > mostly owned by a very few companies such as Turner and Warner and > their various versions. They know about the great economic success > of cable and how it worked and they live to monopolize media. Their > dream is for the exact same thing to happen with the radio. Well, of course, that is what a capitalist society does. Companies are in it to make money. One can easily turn it off if need be..... >They > want you to pay a fee for radio after it has already been paid for by > advertising. That's how you make billions and billions. As I said, 6 months, and I have yet to hear a commercial on the music stations. Only on the talk channels and CNN/MSNBC/FOXNEWS, etc. "L Alpert" > <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message > news:RgSvc.4895$%F2.3778@attbi_s04... >> Aron wrote: >>> I like the idea of getting something that is the expression of the >>> local community. I hate when I am hundreds of miles away from home >>> and I realize I'm listening to another Clear Channel station >>> regurgitating the same contrived crap based on marketing. I feel >>> ripped off. It's like if when I talked to you, you talked to me in >>> the scripted manor of many over the phone customer service >>> departments. I wouldn't be pleased because I wouldn't be talking to >>> an individual, I'd be talking to the same script with a different >>> voice - a load of crap. So I am all for local culture. I go to a >>> place to experience a place not to be in my own bubble. Sure I >>> would like the ability to tune in to those familiar stations back >>> home sometimes but I think it's kind of sick when places don't have >>> their own voice. Just the same, I carry enough CDs on a trip to >>> last if that's the mood I'm in so in the end I don't see how I'd >>> really get anything out of that $10/mo. Also, keep in mind that >>> it'll be cheap now but the price will probably go through the roof >>> if XM dominates. I don't want to be stuck getting soaked for a >>> service for the basic things. Anyway, like you said value is in >>> the eye of the beholder. >> >> Yes, but remember those CD's cost money as well (I know, I have a >> huge stack of them. I even have a rack of a few hundred vinyl LPs. >> >> Either way, the music is paid for (unless you use kazaa or something >> similar). >> >>> >>> >>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:f4dqc.69196$536.11235489@attbi_s03... >>>> Aron wrote: >>>>> That's pretty good. I wouldn't want an extra bill in order to >>>>> listen to the radio though. I have never been anywhere I can >>>>> remember where there was no radio coverage. >>>> >>>> I can think of a few places where radio coverage was minimal. I >>>> like the idea of having the same stations all the time, no matter >>>> where one is. >>>> >>>> As far as the bill, as I said before, value is in the eye of the >>>> beholder. For me, it is worth the $10 a month. >>>> >>>>> I have, however been where there are >>>>> only two stations and they both suck. I guess that's about equal >>>>> to cutting out in Yosemite since either way I'd be popping in a >>>>> CD. >>>> >>>> Always a good alternative, though those CD's do cost money, so >>>> either way, it is paid for. >>>> >>>>> I >>>>> don't like the idea of paying for radio. Paying for TV (cable) >>>>> was the downfall of local television coverage and now you really >>>>> can't get TV without paying a premium for it even though >>>>> advertisers have already paid for it. Even in a metro area you >>>>> only have a small number of broadcast television stations. I >>>>> would hate to see that happen to radio. >>>> >>>> I get 16 stations with my OTA antenna on the roof (funny how things >>>> have a habit of coming back in style), 11 digital, and 7 or 8 that >>>> offer HD content. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:_pjkc.1326$I%1.149423@attbi_s51... >>>>>> Aron wrote: >>>>>>> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. >>>>>>> Everyone switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast >>>>>>> TV. Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an >>>>>>> hour and a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when >>>>>>> it's already free? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a >>>>>>> store. In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A >>>>>>> digital station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear >>>>>>> people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the >>>>>>> roof. Basically, you're only going to impress the people that >>>>>>> need the newest thing to spend money on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have one, and I probably wouldn't want to do without it now. >>>>>> >>>>>> I drove from the SF Bay area to the middle of Yosemite, and I >>>>>> didn't loose it until I got almost to the middle of the park. I >>>>>> never loose it around town...... >>>>>> >>>>>> So far, no commercials are only on the music stations. CNN, >>>>>> MSNBC, ESPN radio, et al have commercials. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Aron >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com... >>>>>>>> Hello: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a >>>>>>>> person with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does >>>>>>>> not come with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages >>>>>>>> have it) so will have to do it the hard way, I guess. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the >>>>>>>> car have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, >>>>>>>> or must one use the small fm transmitter that >>>>>>>> you can purchase for it ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the >>>>>>>> car. The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the >>>>>>>> dashboard, as the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good >>>>>>>> sky view. Also said it works if you >>>>>>>> place it on the rear inside shelf. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are both of these statements true ? >>>>>>>> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> c. Not too sure what else to ask. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are you folks happy with XM ? >>>>>>>> Works well ? >>>>>>>> Worth it, in your opinion ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any caveats, etc. ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Bob |
Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
And then that extra you spent on a receiver because it can receive XM is
useless. I imagine few people care though. "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-DF3219.07452304062004@text.usenetserver.com... > In article <9GYvc.37439$zO3.34527@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net>, > "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > > > True but CDs are solid ad-free music and you have the right to play it as > > long as you keep it. My point was that cable advertised that you pay for > > service, get more and better channels, and get no ads. Then everyone ended > > up paying for ad filled programming, when the ads already paid for the > > programming, because the only alternative was, say 2 fuzzy broadcast > > stations because broadcast TV was out of style. XM advertises the same > > thing. Pay a fee and get no ads, yet they already have plenty of stations > > with ads. So what's the deal? It might look like a good deal now with all > > the stations but if XM becomes the standard, like cable, and there's no > > competition, the price will go through the roof and so will the advertising. > > And then you stop paying the subscription fee, and move on to something > else. > > Until then, listen to the ad-free music stations and enjoy. > |
Re: XM Radio In Accord Questions
In article <HTlzc.9325$Y3.1164@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
"Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote: > And then that extra you spent on a receiver because it can receive XM is > useless. Why? It receives XM. Oh, you top-posted. You made everyone who wanted to, work to follow what the hell you were talking about. No doubt you referred to this: > > with ads. So what's the deal? It might look like a good deal now with all > > the stations but if XM becomes the standard, like cable, and there's no > > competition, the price will go through the roof and so will the advertising. > > And then you stop paying the subscription fee, and move on to something > else. > > Until then, listen to the ad-free music stations and enjoy. And then your response was: > And then that extra you spent on a receiver because it can receive XM is > useless. So NOW it makes sense, taken in order. You obviously have never bothered to figure out that top-posting is bad. Anyway, so what if you spent $100 on a receiver? Over 36 months, that's less than $3/month. Add that to the $10/month you're paying for service, and now you've paid $13/month for service over those 36 months. And then you throw it out, because it's turned to crap. As long as you know what you're doing and run the numbers, it doesn't matter. |
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