hyundaitech

The air intake is typically at the base of the windshield on the right side
(above that box on the right side under the dash which houses the blower
motor).

The water is typically intended to drain off either side of the area under
the cowling into the area between the structural portion of the car and the
back of the fenders.

Frustrated Elantra Owner

Many thanks. Once my wife gets home I'll investigate. She'll be happy to
have her glove compartment back, I expect!

Frustrated Elantra Owner

On 19-May-2005, "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote:

> The water is typically intended to drain off either side of the area under
> the cowling into the area between the structural portion of the car and
> the
> back of the fenders.

Ah, I see what you mean now, if it was coming in from there, it would
probably not be shooting from the left (where I drew that #1) and would
somehow be coming from above #2 instead. When you say the box that houses
the blower motor, do you mean above my #2 box. Taking off #2 drops down a
white finned circular thing. Is the blower motor above that, or is above the
assembly in the center? Inside #2 abiove where the finned thing was is
absolutely bone dry. Putting my hand inside #2 and reaching to the left
inside #1 I can feel water moving close as she turns left, then of course it
all comes rushing out on a harder left.

From the way you describe it, it sounds like the shaping below the cowling
would make it very difficult for water to end up where it wasn't supposed to
be. Unless of course the water testing was spraying water at a very
unnatural angle. I know they were testing the front end and under the hood,
so assumed they had mistakenly got filled something up with water.

I feel like I am getting closer to solving this problem. I'll let you know
how I get on. )

Frustrated Elantra Owner

Great! I located the drain hose just behind the carpet. Pulled it out from
the grommet first, and as soon as it was clear of the lower floor skin water
gushed out. I think the very bottom of the pipe was twisted or doubled
over. Hoere's the thing. I poked the pipe back through the first hole
(like the upper floor skin?), and wiggled it til I felt it go through the
lower/external one. Crouched down under the vehicle to make sure the pipe
was pulled through and open, and about 6 inches to the right (i.e. towards
the door, as opposed to towards the the middle of the car) of where the pipe
was poking through I found this. It was wet, and it was on the floor.
Where on earth could it have come from? It was on our drive, and our car is
the only one which ever parks there. http://www.2hosts.com/uh-oh.jpg

I had a look around as best I could but could not see anything missing.
Maybe is fell off from further back on the car as she reversed in? Surely
pulling that pipe out and putting it back in can't have made this fall off!?

Oh, back to the pipe. We went out on a test drive to see if the water
problem was cured, and it seemed to be. Now time will tell to see if it
fills again. I can't thank you anough for your help, it is most
appreciated.

hyundaitech

There's no way this bolt would have come off just by pulling the hose out
unless it wasn't attached to anything. I suspect that for some reason
that the hose was actually plugged with this bolt. I suspect personnel
doing the water leak work installed it-- possibly for some leak diagnosis,
but my ideas of what this would accomplish are very sketchy. Perhaps if
you go back and show it to them they may have a slightly different tune
about your problem.

Frustrated Elantra Owner

You raise a very good point. I wondered if it was poked into the bottom of
the hose, because the hose was pretty hard to pull out, then it suddenly
came free. Also, there was absolutely nothing inside the hose blocking it,
so i had to assume it was kinked somehow. So I shouldn't worry about the
bolt?

hyundaitech

No, I wouldn't worry about it. From what you say, I'm almost positive the
bolt was the cause of the problems. You pulled out the hose, water gushed
out, nothing was blocking the hose, and suddenly you found the bolt
directly under the hose exit.

If this were an actual bolt holding something together, it wouldn't just
fall off the car like that.

Frustrated Elantra Owner

Very many thanks for your help. I phoned the dealership and told them what
happened, and they were stunned! It's a shame that they can turn us away
because there is nothing more they can do, when it was something so simple.
I could not have done this without your advice and help, and truly
appreciate the time and effort you put forth to help people in this NG. )