A question for hyundaitech: Is there any adjustments possible to the
electronic throttle? Mine is way too sensitive and has too little
tactile (footile? :-) ) feedback. Can the gain/slope on this be
changed? Can a stiffer spring be put on it?

Thanks,
Matt

 

Hyundai doesn't offer any sort of adjustment to the electronic throttle.

The feedback you feel is from the pedal only. There is a sensor right on
the pedal assembly. I suppose it's possible that you could try to stiffen
it yourself with an additional spring or some such, but I really wouldn't
recommend it unless you're very mechanically inclined and are sure you
won't damage anything.

I haven't driven many and don't have much experience with the electronic
throttle reaction, but my initial impression was that it was much improved
over the 3.5 in the XG and Santa Fe. It's possible you may just need a
month or so to get used to it.

 

Hyundai doesn't offer any sort of adjustment to the electronic throttle.

The feedback you feel is from the pedal only. There is a sensor right on
the pedal assembly. I suppose it's possible that you could try to stiffen
it yourself with an additional spring or some such, but I really wouldn't
recommend it unless you're very mechanically inclined and are sure you
won't damage anything.

I haven't driven many and don't have much experience with the electronic
throttle reaction, but my initial impression was that it was much improved
over the 3.5 in the XG and Santa Fe. It's possible you may just need a
month or so to get used to it.

 

hyundaitech wrote:

> Hyundai doesn't offer any sort of adjustment to the electronic throttle.
>
> The feedback you feel is from the pedal only. There is a sensor right on
> the pedal assembly. I suppose it's possible that you could try to stiffen
> it yourself with an additional spring or some such, but I really wouldn't
> recommend it unless you're very mechanically inclined and are sure you
> won't damage anything.
>
> I haven't driven many and don't have much experience with the electronic
> throttle reaction, but my initial impression was that it was much improved
> over the 3.5 in the XG and Santa Fe. It's possible you may just need a
> month or so to get used to it.
>

I've been driving it about a month. I'm a little more used to it, but
it still is very tricky compared to other standard shift cars I've
driven over the years. It requires way more concentration to start out
than a car should.


Matt

 

hyundaitech wrote:

> Hyundai doesn't offer any sort of adjustment to the electronic throttle.
>
> The feedback you feel is from the pedal only. There is a sensor right on
> the pedal assembly. I suppose it's possible that you could try to stiffen
> it yourself with an additional spring or some such, but I really wouldn't
> recommend it unless you're very mechanically inclined and are sure you
> won't damage anything.
>
> I haven't driven many and don't have much experience with the electronic
> throttle reaction, but my initial impression was that it was much improved
> over the 3.5 in the XG and Santa Fe. It's possible you may just need a
> month or so to get used to it.
>

I've been driving it about a month. I'm a little more used to it, but
it still is very tricky compared to other standard shift cars I've
driven over the years. It requires way more concentration to start out
than a car should.


Matt

 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> Hyundai doesn't offer any sort of adjustment to the electronic throttle.
>> The feedback you feel is from the pedal only. There is a sensor right on
>> the pedal assembly. I suppose it's possible that you could try to
>> stiffen
>> it yourself with an additional spring or some such, but I really wouldn't
>> recommend it unless you're very mechanically inclined and are sure you
>> won't damage anything.
>>
>> I haven't driven many and don't have much experience with the electronic
>> throttle reaction, but my initial impression was that it was much
>> improved
>> over the 3.5 in the XG and Santa Fe. It's possible you may just need a
>> month or so to get used to it.
>>
>
> I've been driving it about a month. I'm a little more used to it, but
> it still is very tricky compared to other standard shift cars I've
> driven over the years. It requires way more concentration to start out
> than a car should.

If it makes you feel any better, I find my Elantra's clutch to be rather
vague, even after removing the restrictor valve from the slave cylinder
(it's unnecessary and counterproductive). Speaking of which, I wouldn't
be surprised if the slave cylinder in the Sonata tranny has one, but
unfortunately, the slave cylinder is inside the tranny case, where you
can't get to it. I hope it's durable, since replacing it would require
dropping the transmission.

 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> Hyundai doesn't offer any sort of adjustment to the electronic throttle.
>> The feedback you feel is from the pedal only. There is a sensor right on
>> the pedal assembly. I suppose it's possible that you could try to
>> stiffen
>> it yourself with an additional spring or some such, but I really wouldn't
>> recommend it unless you're very mechanically inclined and are sure you
>> won't damage anything.
>>
>> I haven't driven many and don't have much experience with the electronic
>> throttle reaction, but my initial impression was that it was much
>> improved
>> over the 3.5 in the XG and Santa Fe. It's possible you may just need a
>> month or so to get used to it.
>>
>
> I've been driving it about a month. I'm a little more used to it, but
> it still is very tricky compared to other standard shift cars I've
> driven over the years. It requires way more concentration to start out
> than a car should.

If it makes you feel any better, I find my Elantra's clutch to be rather
vague, even after removing the restrictor valve from the slave cylinder
(it's unnecessary and counterproductive). Speaking of which, I wouldn't
be surprised if the slave cylinder in the Sonata tranny has one, but
unfortunately, the slave cylinder is inside the tranny case, where you
can't get to it. I hope it's durable, since replacing it would require
dropping the transmission.

 

I remember learning about Hyundai using this type of clutch release
cylinder in training for th e 06 Sonata. Everyone in the class was
disturbed. DaimlerChrysler has been using them and they don't appear to
be any more durable than the external cylinders as far as I can tell.
I'd
definitely recommend replacing with a clutch job. But hey, it's probably
only 3x the cost of the old design. Who'd have a problem with that?
*sarcasm*

 

I remember learning about Hyundai using this type of clutch release
cylinder in training for th e 06 Sonata. Everyone in the class was
disturbed. DaimlerChrysler has been using them and they don't appear to
be any more durable than the external cylinders as far as I can tell.
I'd
definitely recommend replacing with a clutch job. But hey, it's probably
only 3x the cost of the old design. Who'd have a problem with that?
*sarcasm*

 

hyundaitech wrote:

> I remember learning about Hyundai using this type of clutch release
> cylinder in training for th e 06 Sonata. Everyone in the class was
> disturbed. DaimlerChrysler has been using them and they don't appear to
> be any more durable than the external cylinders as far as I can tell.
> I'd
> definitely recommend replacing with a clutch job. But hey, it's probably
> only 3x the cost of the old design. Who'd have a problem with that?
> *sarcasm*
>

I'm not sure I understand this difference. Can you explain in a little
more detail or is there a diagram we could pull up somewhere?

Matt

 

hyundaitech wrote:

> I remember learning about Hyundai using this type of clutch release
> cylinder in training for th e 06 Sonata. Everyone in the class was
> disturbed. DaimlerChrysler has been using them and they don't appear to
> be any more durable than the external cylinders as far as I can tell.
> I'd
> definitely recommend replacing with a clutch job. But hey, it's probably
> only 3x the cost of the old design. Who'd have a problem with that?
> *sarcasm*
>

I'm not sure I understand this difference. Can you explain in a little
more detail or is there a diagram we could pull up somewhere?

Matt

 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> I remember learning about Hyundai using this type of clutch release
>> cylinder in training for th e 06 Sonata. Everyone in the class was
>> disturbed. DaimlerChrysler has been using them and they don't appear to
>> be any more durable than the external cylinders as far as I can tell. I'd
>> definitely recommend replacing with a clutch job. But hey, it's probably
>> only 3x the cost of the old design. Who'd have a problem with that?
>> *sarcasm*
>>
>
> I'm not sure I understand this difference. Can you explain in a little
> more detail or is there a diagram we could pull up somewhere?

If you sign up for Hyundai Webtech, you can access the manuals for any
model and compare them. The difference is that the slave cylinder on
most models is mounted outside the transmission case, making it easy to
service or replace. The new Sonata tranny has the slave cylinder INSIDE
the transmission case, which means that you have to pull the
transmission in order to service or replace it. What Hyundaitech is
suggesting is that you replace the slave cylinder as a precaution when
you replace the clutch, since the labor is the major part of the job.

If you drive sensibly and know how to drive a manual transmission
vehicle properly, a clutch should last over 100K miles and I don't see
any reason that the slave cylinder shouldn't last as long. Periodic
draining and flushing of the clutch fluid will help ensure that it does.

 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> I remember learning about Hyundai using this type of clutch release
>> cylinder in training for th e 06 Sonata. Everyone in the class was
>> disturbed. DaimlerChrysler has been using them and they don't appear to
>> be any more durable than the external cylinders as far as I can tell. I'd
>> definitely recommend replacing with a clutch job. But hey, it's probably
>> only 3x the cost of the old design. Who'd have a problem with that?
>> *sarcasm*
>>
>
> I'm not sure I understand this difference. Can you explain in a little
> more detail or is there a diagram we could pull up somewhere?

If you sign up for Hyundai Webtech, you can access the manuals for any
model and compare them. The difference is that the slave cylinder on
most models is mounted outside the transmission case, making it easy to
service or replace. The new Sonata tranny has the slave cylinder INSIDE
the transmission case, which means that you have to pull the
transmission in order to service or replace it. What Hyundaitech is
suggesting is that you replace the slave cylinder as a precaution when
you replace the clutch, since the labor is the major part of the job.

If you drive sensibly and know how to drive a manual transmission
vehicle properly, a clutch should last over 100K miles and I don't see
any reason that the slave cylinder shouldn't last as long. Periodic
draining and flushing of the clutch fluid will help ensure that it does.

 

Brian Nystrom wrote:

> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> I remember learning about Hyundai using this type of clutch release
>>> cylinder in training for th e 06 Sonata. Everyone in the class was
>>> disturbed. DaimlerChrysler has been using them and they don't appear to
>>> be any more durable than the external cylinders as far as I can tell.
>>> I'd
>>> definitely recommend replacing with a clutch job. But hey, it's
>>> probably
>>> only 3x the cost of the old design. Who'd have a problem with that?
>>> *sarcasm*
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand this difference. Can you explain in a
>> little more detail or is there a diagram we could pull up somewhere?
>
>
> If you sign up for Hyundai Webtech, you can access the manuals for any
> model and compare them. The difference is that the slave cylinder on
> most models is mounted outside the transmission case, making it easy to
> service or replace. The new Sonata tranny has the slave cylinder INSIDE
> the transmission case, which means that you have to pull the
> transmission in order to service or replace it. What Hyundaitech is
> suggesting is that you replace the slave cylinder as a precaution when
> you replace the clutch, since the labor is the major part of the job.
>
> If you drive sensibly and know how to drive a manual transmission
> vehicle properly, a clutch should last over 100K miles and I don't see
> any reason that the slave cylinder shouldn't last as long. Periodic
> draining and flushing of the clutch fluid will help ensure that it does.

Speaking of which, it appears to me that the clutch master cylinder uses
fluid from the same resevoir as the brake master cylinder. I see no
separate resevoir, but I do see a hose coming from the clutch master
cylinder to the brake master cylinder resevoir. Makes sense I guess to
save adding another resevoir, but my other hydraulic clutch vehicles
have all had completely separate hydraulic systems. I hope that a leak
in the clutch line couldn't allow the fluid to be pumped out of the
brake cylinder causing loss of the brakes!

Hyundaitech, tell me this can't happen. :-)


Matt

 

Brian Nystrom wrote:

> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> I remember learning about Hyundai using this type of clutch release
>>> cylinder in training for th e 06 Sonata. Everyone in the class was
>>> disturbed. DaimlerChrysler has been using them and they don't appear to
>>> be any more durable than the external cylinders as far as I can tell.
>>> I'd
>>> definitely recommend replacing with a clutch job. But hey, it's
>>> probably
>>> only 3x the cost of the old design. Who'd have a problem with that?
>>> *sarcasm*
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand this difference. Can you explain in a
>> little more detail or is there a diagram we could pull up somewhere?
>
>
> If you sign up for Hyundai Webtech, you can access the manuals for any
> model and compare them. The difference is that the slave cylinder on
> most models is mounted outside the transmission case, making it easy to
> service or replace. The new Sonata tranny has the slave cylinder INSIDE
> the transmission case, which means that you have to pull the
> transmission in order to service or replace it. What Hyundaitech is
> suggesting is that you replace the slave cylinder as a precaution when
> you replace the clutch, since the labor is the major part of the job.
>
> If you drive sensibly and know how to drive a manual transmission
> vehicle properly, a clutch should last over 100K miles and I don't see
> any reason that the slave cylinder shouldn't last as long. Periodic
> draining and flushing of the clutch fluid will help ensure that it does.

Speaking of which, it appears to me that the clutch master cylinder uses
fluid from the same resevoir as the brake master cylinder. I see no
separate resevoir, but I do see a hose coming from the clutch master
cylinder to the brake master cylinder resevoir. Makes sense I guess to
save adding another resevoir, but my other hydraulic clutch vehicles
have all had completely separate hydraulic systems. I hope that a leak
in the clutch line couldn't allow the fluid to be pumped out of the
brake cylinder causing loss of the brakes!

Hyundaitech, tell me this can't happen. :-)


Matt