'06 Sonata electronic throttle
01-18-2006, 12:19 PM
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Re: '06 Sonata electronic throttle
I don't think I've seen a manual '06 in person. But I have seen cars where
the clutch master uses fluid from the brake reservoir. In these cases,
they usually pull fluid from a point near the bottom of the brake
reservoir. It may pull the reservoir near empty, but you should still be
left with some brake fluid to perform braking. The brake warning lamp on
the dash should illuminate well before the fluid gets to that level.
As to the slave cylinders, the external type is simply a cylinder with a
piston which pushes a lever attached to the release bearing inside the
bell housing. The internal type is made as one piece with (I believe
Hyundai does it this way) or attached to the release bearing. It's
cylindrical in shape and goes around the input shaft where the release
bearing would normally be found.
the clutch master uses fluid from the brake reservoir. In these cases,
they usually pull fluid from a point near the bottom of the brake
reservoir. It may pull the reservoir near empty, but you should still be
left with some brake fluid to perform braking. The brake warning lamp on
the dash should illuminate well before the fluid gets to that level.
As to the slave cylinders, the external type is simply a cylinder with a
piston which pushes a lever attached to the release bearing inside the
bell housing. The internal type is made as one piece with (I believe
Hyundai does it this way) or attached to the release bearing. It's
cylindrical in shape and goes around the input shaft where the release
bearing would normally be found.
01-18-2006, 12:19 PM
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Re: '06 Sonata electronic throttle
I don't think I've seen a manual '06 in person. But I have seen cars where
the clutch master uses fluid from the brake reservoir. In these cases,
they usually pull fluid from a point near the bottom of the brake
reservoir. It may pull the reservoir near empty, but you should still be
left with some brake fluid to perform braking. The brake warning lamp on
the dash should illuminate well before the fluid gets to that level.
As to the slave cylinders, the external type is simply a cylinder with a
piston which pushes a lever attached to the release bearing inside the
bell housing. The internal type is made as one piece with (I believe
Hyundai does it this way) or attached to the release bearing. It's
cylindrical in shape and goes around the input shaft where the release
bearing would normally be found.
the clutch master uses fluid from the brake reservoir. In these cases,
they usually pull fluid from a point near the bottom of the brake
reservoir. It may pull the reservoir near empty, but you should still be
left with some brake fluid to perform braking. The brake warning lamp on
the dash should illuminate well before the fluid gets to that level.
As to the slave cylinders, the external type is simply a cylinder with a
piston which pushes a lever attached to the release bearing inside the
bell housing. The internal type is made as one piece with (I believe
Hyundai does it this way) or attached to the release bearing. It's
cylindrical in shape and goes around the input shaft where the release
bearing would normally be found.
01-18-2006, 05:27 PM
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Re: '06 Sonata electronic throttle
hyundaitech wrote:
> As to the slave cylinders, the external type is simply a cylinder with a
> piston which pushes a lever attached to the release bearing inside the
> bell housing. The internal type is made as one piece with (I believe
> Hyundai does it this way) or attached to the release bearing. It's
> cylindrical in shape and goes around the input shaft where the release
> bearing would normally be found.
I noticed that on Webtech. What is supposed to be the advantage of that
configuration?
> As to the slave cylinders, the external type is simply a cylinder with a
> piston which pushes a lever attached to the release bearing inside the
> bell housing. The internal type is made as one piece with (I believe
> Hyundai does it this way) or attached to the release bearing. It's
> cylindrical in shape and goes around the input shaft where the release
> bearing would normally be found.
I noticed that on Webtech. What is supposed to be the advantage of that
configuration?
01-18-2006, 05:27 PM
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Re: '06 Sonata electronic throttle
hyundaitech wrote:
> As to the slave cylinders, the external type is simply a cylinder with a
> piston which pushes a lever attached to the release bearing inside the
> bell housing. The internal type is made as one piece with (I believe
> Hyundai does it this way) or attached to the release bearing. It's
> cylindrical in shape and goes around the input shaft where the release
> bearing would normally be found.
I noticed that on Webtech. What is supposed to be the advantage of that
configuration?
> As to the slave cylinders, the external type is simply a cylinder with a
> piston which pushes a lever attached to the release bearing inside the
> bell housing. The internal type is made as one piece with (I believe
> Hyundai does it this way) or attached to the release bearing. It's
> cylindrical in shape and goes around the input shaft where the release
> bearing would normally be found.
I noticed that on Webtech. What is supposed to be the advantage of that
configuration?
01-18-2006, 07:55 PM
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Re: '06 Sonata electronic throttle
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> As to the slave cylinders, the external type is simply a cylinder with a
>> piston which pushes a lever attached to the release bearing inside the
>> bell housing. The internal type is made as one piece with (I believe
>> Hyundai does it this way) or attached to the release bearing. It's
>> cylindrical in shape and goes around the input shaft where the release
>> bearing would normally be found.
>
>
> I noticed that on Webtech. What is supposed to be the advantage of that
> configuration?
I'd say the main advantage is reduced parts count as you no longer need
the linkage from the slave cylinder to the throw-out bearing.
Matt
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> As to the slave cylinders, the external type is simply a cylinder with a
>> piston which pushes a lever attached to the release bearing inside the
>> bell housing. The internal type is made as one piece with (I believe
>> Hyundai does it this way) or attached to the release bearing. It's
>> cylindrical in shape and goes around the input shaft where the release
>> bearing would normally be found.
>
>
> I noticed that on Webtech. What is supposed to be the advantage of that
> configuration?
I'd say the main advantage is reduced parts count as you no longer need
the linkage from the slave cylinder to the throw-out bearing.
Matt
01-18-2006, 07:55 PM
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Re: '06 Sonata electronic throttle
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> As to the slave cylinders, the external type is simply a cylinder with a
>> piston which pushes a lever attached to the release bearing inside the
>> bell housing. The internal type is made as one piece with (I believe
>> Hyundai does it this way) or attached to the release bearing. It's
>> cylindrical in shape and goes around the input shaft where the release
>> bearing would normally be found.
>
>
> I noticed that on Webtech. What is supposed to be the advantage of that
> configuration?
I'd say the main advantage is reduced parts count as you no longer need
the linkage from the slave cylinder to the throw-out bearing.
Matt
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> As to the slave cylinders, the external type is simply a cylinder with a
>> piston which pushes a lever attached to the release bearing inside the
>> bell housing. The internal type is made as one piece with (I believe
>> Hyundai does it this way) or attached to the release bearing. It's
>> cylindrical in shape and goes around the input shaft where the release
>> bearing would normally be found.
>
>
> I noticed that on Webtech. What is supposed to be the advantage of that
> configuration?
I'd say the main advantage is reduced parts count as you no longer need
the linkage from the slave cylinder to the throw-out bearing.
Matt
01-19-2006, 04:13 PM
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Re: '06 Sonata electronic throttle
hyundaitech wrote:
> I don't see many advantages. Matt may be correct or there may be a nickel
> savings in production or something stupid.
>
Hard to say. My Chevy truck has an external slave cylinder that
operates a linkage through the bell housing to the throw-out bearing.
It has a pivot stud that must be greased every so often. So, I can see
where simply running a hydraulic line through the bell housing to a
piston that is intregral with the throw-out bearing would not only save
the cost of the linkage and stud, but also eliminates one more
maintenance item.
The downside, as you pointed out earlier, is that a failure of the slave
cylinder will now be much more expensive. Let's hope they don't fail
too often. :-)
Matt
> I don't see many advantages. Matt may be correct or there may be a nickel
> savings in production or something stupid.
>
Hard to say. My Chevy truck has an external slave cylinder that
operates a linkage through the bell housing to the throw-out bearing.
It has a pivot stud that must be greased every so often. So, I can see
where simply running a hydraulic line through the bell housing to a
piston that is intregral with the throw-out bearing would not only save
the cost of the linkage and stud, but also eliminates one more
maintenance item.
The downside, as you pointed out earlier, is that a failure of the slave
cylinder will now be much more expensive. Let's hope they don't fail
too often. :-)
Matt
01-19-2006, 04:13 PM
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Re: '06 Sonata electronic throttle
hyundaitech wrote:
> I don't see many advantages. Matt may be correct or there may be a nickel
> savings in production or something stupid.
>
Hard to say. My Chevy truck has an external slave cylinder that
operates a linkage through the bell housing to the throw-out bearing.
It has a pivot stud that must be greased every so often. So, I can see
where simply running a hydraulic line through the bell housing to a
piston that is intregral with the throw-out bearing would not only save
the cost of the linkage and stud, but also eliminates one more
maintenance item.
The downside, as you pointed out earlier, is that a failure of the slave
cylinder will now be much more expensive. Let's hope they don't fail
too often. :-)
Matt
> I don't see many advantages. Matt may be correct or there may be a nickel
> savings in production or something stupid.
>
Hard to say. My Chevy truck has an external slave cylinder that
operates a linkage through the bell housing to the throw-out bearing.
It has a pivot stud that must be greased every so often. So, I can see
where simply running a hydraulic line through the bell housing to a
piston that is intregral with the throw-out bearing would not only save
the cost of the linkage and stud, but also eliminates one more
maintenance item.
The downside, as you pointed out earlier, is that a failure of the slave
cylinder will now be much more expensive. Let's hope they don't fail
too often. :-)
Matt
01-19-2006, 04:18 PM
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Re: '06 Sonata electronic throttle
Matt Whiting wrote:
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> I don't see many advantages. Matt may be correct or there may be a
>> nickel
>> savings in production or something stupid.
>>
>
> Hard to say. My Chevy truck has an external slave cylinder that
> operates a linkage through the bell housing to the throw-out bearing. It
> has a pivot stud that must be greased every so often. So, I can see
> where simply running a hydraulic line through the bell housing to a
> piston that is intregral with the throw-out bearing would not only save
> the cost of the linkage and stud, but also eliminates one more
> maintenance item.
>
> The downside, as you pointed out earlier, is that a failure of the slave
> cylinder will now be much more expensive. Let's hope they don't fail
> too often. :-)
Well, I'm glad I'm not one of the "early adopters". You know what they
say about buying a car in its first year... ;-)
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> I don't see many advantages. Matt may be correct or there may be a
>> nickel
>> savings in production or something stupid.
>>
>
> Hard to say. My Chevy truck has an external slave cylinder that
> operates a linkage through the bell housing to the throw-out bearing. It
> has a pivot stud that must be greased every so often. So, I can see
> where simply running a hydraulic line through the bell housing to a
> piston that is intregral with the throw-out bearing would not only save
> the cost of the linkage and stud, but also eliminates one more
> maintenance item.
>
> The downside, as you pointed out earlier, is that a failure of the slave
> cylinder will now be much more expensive. Let's hope they don't fail
> too often. :-)
Well, I'm glad I'm not one of the "early adopters". You know what they
say about buying a car in its first year... ;-)
01-19-2006, 04:18 PM
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Re: '06 Sonata electronic throttle
Matt Whiting wrote:
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> I don't see many advantages. Matt may be correct or there may be a
>> nickel
>> savings in production or something stupid.
>>
>
> Hard to say. My Chevy truck has an external slave cylinder that
> operates a linkage through the bell housing to the throw-out bearing. It
> has a pivot stud that must be greased every so often. So, I can see
> where simply running a hydraulic line through the bell housing to a
> piston that is intregral with the throw-out bearing would not only save
> the cost of the linkage and stud, but also eliminates one more
> maintenance item.
>
> The downside, as you pointed out earlier, is that a failure of the slave
> cylinder will now be much more expensive. Let's hope they don't fail
> too often. :-)
Well, I'm glad I'm not one of the "early adopters". You know what they
say about buying a car in its first year... ;-)
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> I don't see many advantages. Matt may be correct or there may be a
>> nickel
>> savings in production or something stupid.
>>
>
> Hard to say. My Chevy truck has an external slave cylinder that
> operates a linkage through the bell housing to the throw-out bearing. It
> has a pivot stud that must be greased every so often. So, I can see
> where simply running a hydraulic line through the bell housing to a
> piston that is intregral with the throw-out bearing would not only save
> the cost of the linkage and stud, but also eliminates one more
> maintenance item.
>
> The downside, as you pointed out earlier, is that a failure of the slave
> cylinder will now be much more expensive. Let's hope they don't fail
> too often. :-)
Well, I'm glad I'm not one of the "early adopters". You know what they
say about buying a car in its first year... ;-)
01-19-2006, 04:26 PM
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Re: '06 Sonata electronic throttle
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see many advantages. Matt may be correct or there may be a
>>> nickel
>>> savings in production or something stupid.
>>>
>>
>> Hard to say. My Chevy truck has an external slave cylinder that
>> operates a linkage through the bell housing to the throw-out bearing.
>> It has a pivot stud that must be greased every so often. So, I can
>> see where simply running a hydraulic line through the bell housing to
>> a piston that is intregral with the throw-out bearing would not only
>> save the cost of the linkage and stud, but also eliminates one more
>> maintenance item.
>>
>> The downside, as you pointed out earlier, is that a failure of the
>> slave cylinder will now be much more expensive. Let's hope they don't
>> fail too often. :-)
>
>
> Well, I'm glad I'm not one of the "early adopters". You know what they
> say about buying a car in its first year... ;-)
Yes, I haven't done this too often, but my prior experience hasn't been
all that bad actually. I bought a 1986 Jeep Comanche new in 1985 and
still have it! It has been one of the best vehicles I've ever owned and
86 was the first model year. Likewise, I bought a 1989 Plymouth
Acclaim and that was the best vehicle I have ever owned. It replaced a
1984 Honda Accord which was about the worst I have ever owned.
I'm hoping the Sonata follows in the footsteps of the Comanche and Acclaim.
Matt
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see many advantages. Matt may be correct or there may be a
>>> nickel
>>> savings in production or something stupid.
>>>
>>
>> Hard to say. My Chevy truck has an external slave cylinder that
>> operates a linkage through the bell housing to the throw-out bearing.
>> It has a pivot stud that must be greased every so often. So, I can
>> see where simply running a hydraulic line through the bell housing to
>> a piston that is intregral with the throw-out bearing would not only
>> save the cost of the linkage and stud, but also eliminates one more
>> maintenance item.
>>
>> The downside, as you pointed out earlier, is that a failure of the
>> slave cylinder will now be much more expensive. Let's hope they don't
>> fail too often. :-)
>
>
> Well, I'm glad I'm not one of the "early adopters". You know what they
> say about buying a car in its first year... ;-)
Yes, I haven't done this too often, but my prior experience hasn't been
all that bad actually. I bought a 1986 Jeep Comanche new in 1985 and
still have it! It has been one of the best vehicles I've ever owned and
86 was the first model year. Likewise, I bought a 1989 Plymouth
Acclaim and that was the best vehicle I have ever owned. It replaced a
1984 Honda Accord which was about the worst I have ever owned.
I'm hoping the Sonata follows in the footsteps of the Comanche and Acclaim.
Matt
01-19-2006, 04:26 PM
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Re: '06 Sonata electronic throttle
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see many advantages. Matt may be correct or there may be a
>>> nickel
>>> savings in production or something stupid.
>>>
>>
>> Hard to say. My Chevy truck has an external slave cylinder that
>> operates a linkage through the bell housing to the throw-out bearing.
>> It has a pivot stud that must be greased every so often. So, I can
>> see where simply running a hydraulic line through the bell housing to
>> a piston that is intregral with the throw-out bearing would not only
>> save the cost of the linkage and stud, but also eliminates one more
>> maintenance item.
>>
>> The downside, as you pointed out earlier, is that a failure of the
>> slave cylinder will now be much more expensive. Let's hope they don't
>> fail too often. :-)
>
>
> Well, I'm glad I'm not one of the "early adopters". You know what they
> say about buying a car in its first year... ;-)
Yes, I haven't done this too often, but my prior experience hasn't been
all that bad actually. I bought a 1986 Jeep Comanche new in 1985 and
still have it! It has been one of the best vehicles I've ever owned and
86 was the first model year. Likewise, I bought a 1989 Plymouth
Acclaim and that was the best vehicle I have ever owned. It replaced a
1984 Honda Accord which was about the worst I have ever owned.
I'm hoping the Sonata follows in the footsteps of the Comanche and Acclaim.
Matt
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see many advantages. Matt may be correct or there may be a
>>> nickel
>>> savings in production or something stupid.
>>>
>>
>> Hard to say. My Chevy truck has an external slave cylinder that
>> operates a linkage through the bell housing to the throw-out bearing.
>> It has a pivot stud that must be greased every so often. So, I can
>> see where simply running a hydraulic line through the bell housing to
>> a piston that is intregral with the throw-out bearing would not only
>> save the cost of the linkage and stud, but also eliminates one more
>> maintenance item.
>>
>> The downside, as you pointed out earlier, is that a failure of the
>> slave cylinder will now be much more expensive. Let's hope they don't
>> fail too often. :-)
>
>
> Well, I'm glad I'm not one of the "early adopters". You know what they
> say about buying a car in its first year... ;-)
Yes, I haven't done this too often, but my prior experience hasn't been
all that bad actually. I bought a 1986 Jeep Comanche new in 1985 and
still have it! It has been one of the best vehicles I've ever owned and
86 was the first model year. Likewise, I bought a 1989 Plymouth
Acclaim and that was the best vehicle I have ever owned. It replaced a
1984 Honda Accord which was about the worst I have ever owned.
I'm hoping the Sonata follows in the footsteps of the Comanche and Acclaim.
Matt
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