06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
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> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>
>> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>
>> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>
>> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>
>> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
>> it's not available online.
>>
>
> I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but the
> shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9 seconds.
> It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what I could
> perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still sometime.
>
> Matt
I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are "broken".
On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at all, but as you
said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
Eric
@news1.epix.net:
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
>> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>
>> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>
>> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>
>> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>
>> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
>> it's not available online.
>>
>
> I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but the
> shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9 seconds.
> It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what I could
> perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still sometime.
>
> Matt
I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are "broken".
On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at all, but as you
said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
Eric
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
"Darby OGill" <bark@woof.net> wrote in news:BIrbg.172$JL5.116@trndny03:
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> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516@news1.epix.net...
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>
>>> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>
>>> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>
>>> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>
>>> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>> why it's not available online.
>>>
>>
>> I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>> the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>> seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>> I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>> sometime.
>>
>> Matt
>
> My observation would be closer to HT's numbers, with the exceoption of
> the shortest cycle...I'd guesss it to be one second at most.
Below 20 MPH perhaps, but even in a residential area (25 MPH by me) the
stop time was nothing.
>
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516@news1.epix.net...
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>
>>> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>
>>> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>
>>> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>
>>> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>> why it's not available online.
>>>
>>
>> I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>> the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>> seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>> I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>> sometime.
>>
>> Matt
>
> My observation would be closer to HT's numbers, with the exceoption of
> the shortest cycle...I'd guesss it to be one second at most.
Below 20 MPH perhaps, but even in a residential area (25 MPH by me) the
stop time was nothing.
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
"Darby OGill" <bark@woof.net> wrote in news:BIrbg.172$JL5.116@trndny03:
>
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516@news1.epix.net...
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>
>>> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>
>>> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>
>>> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>
>>> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>> why it's not available online.
>>>
>>
>> I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>> the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>> seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>> I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>> sometime.
>>
>> Matt
>
> My observation would be closer to HT's numbers, with the exceoption of
> the shortest cycle...I'd guesss it to be one second at most.
Below 20 MPH perhaps, but even in a residential area (25 MPH by me) the
stop time was nothing.
>
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516@news1.epix.net...
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>
>>> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>
>>> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>
>>> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>
>>> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>> why it's not available online.
>>>
>>
>> I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>> the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>> seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>> I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>> sometime.
>>
>> Matt
>
> My observation would be closer to HT's numbers, with the exceoption of
> the shortest cycle...I'd guesss it to be one second at most.
Below 20 MPH perhaps, but even in a residential area (25 MPH by me) the
stop time was nothing.
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
"Darby OGill" <bark@woof.net> wrote in news:BIrbg.172$JL5.116@trndny03:
>
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516@news1.epix.net...
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>
>>> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>
>>> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>
>>> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>
>>> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>> why it's not available online.
>>>
>>
>> I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>> the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>> seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>> I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>> sometime.
>>
>> Matt
>
> My observation would be closer to HT's numbers, with the exceoption of
> the shortest cycle...I'd guesss it to be one second at most.
Below 20 MPH perhaps, but even in a residential area (25 MPH by me) the
stop time was nothing.
>
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516@news1.epix.net...
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>
>>> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>
>>> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>
>>> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>
>>> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>> why it's not available online.
>>>
>>
>> I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>> the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>> seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>> I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>> sometime.
>>
>> Matt
>
> My observation would be closer to HT's numbers, with the exceoption of
> the shortest cycle...I'd guesss it to be one second at most.
Below 20 MPH perhaps, but even in a residential area (25 MPH by me) the
stop time was nothing.
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
> @news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>
>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>
>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>
>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>
>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
>>>it's not available online.
>>>
>>
>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but the
>>shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9 seconds.
>>It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what I could
>>perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still sometime.
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are "broken".
> On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at all, but as you
> said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100 for
sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so I'm
pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
Matt
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
> @news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>
>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>
>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>
>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>
>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
>>>it's not available online.
>>>
>>
>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but the
>>shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9 seconds.
>>It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what I could
>>perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still sometime.
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are "broken".
> On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at all, but as you
> said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100 for
sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so I'm
pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
Matt
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
> @news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>
>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>
>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>
>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>
>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
>>>it's not available online.
>>>
>>
>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but the
>>shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9 seconds.
>>It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what I could
>>perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still sometime.
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are "broken".
> On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at all, but as you
> said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100 for
sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so I'm
pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
Matt
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
> @news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>
>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>
>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>
>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>
>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
>>>it's not available online.
>>>
>>
>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but the
>>shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9 seconds.
>>It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what I could
>>perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still sometime.
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are "broken".
> On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at all, but as you
> said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100 for
sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so I'm
pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
Matt
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
> @news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>
>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>
>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>
>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>
>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
>>>it's not available online.
>>>
>>
>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but the
>>shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9 seconds.
>>It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what I could
>>perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still sometime.
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are "broken".
> On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at all, but as you
> said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100 for
sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so I'm
pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
Matt
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
> @news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>
>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>
>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>
>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>
>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
>>>it's not available online.
>>>
>>
>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but the
>>shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9 seconds.
>>It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what I could
>>perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still sometime.
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are "broken".
> On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at all, but as you
> said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100 for
sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so I'm
pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
Matt
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:KOsbg.8908$lb.806909@news1.epix.net:
> Eric G. wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
>> @news1.epix.net:
>>
>>
>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>>
>>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>>
>>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>>
>>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>>
>>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>>>why it's not available online.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>>>the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>>>seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>>>I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>>>sometime.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>>
>> I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are
>> "broken". On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at
>> all, but as you said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
>
> It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
> most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100
> for sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so
> I'm pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
Holy sh*t. We actually agree on something :-P
Eric
news:KOsbg.8908$lb.806909@news1.epix.net:
> Eric G. wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
>> @news1.epix.net:
>>
>>
>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>>
>>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>>
>>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>>
>>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>>
>>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>>>why it's not available online.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>>>the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>>>seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>>>I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>>>sometime.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>>
>> I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are
>> "broken". On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at
>> all, but as you said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
>
> It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
> most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100
> for sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so
> I'm pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
Holy sh*t. We actually agree on something :-P
Eric
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:KOsbg.8908$lb.806909@news1.epix.net:
> Eric G. wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
>> @news1.epix.net:
>>
>>
>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>>
>>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>>
>>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>>
>>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>>
>>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>>>why it's not available online.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>>>the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>>>seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>>>I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>>>sometime.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>>
>> I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are
>> "broken". On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at
>> all, but as you said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
>
> It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
> most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100
> for sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so
> I'm pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
Holy sh*t. We actually agree on something :-P
Eric
news:KOsbg.8908$lb.806909@news1.epix.net:
> Eric G. wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
>> @news1.epix.net:
>>
>>
>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>>
>>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>>
>>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>>
>>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>>
>>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>>>why it's not available online.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>>>the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>>>seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>>>I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>>>sometime.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>>
>> I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are
>> "broken". On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at
>> all, but as you said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
>
> It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
> most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100
> for sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so
> I'm pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
Holy sh*t. We actually agree on something :-P
Eric
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:KOsbg.8908$lb.806909@news1.epix.net:
> Eric G. wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
>> @news1.epix.net:
>>
>>
>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>>
>>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>>
>>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>>
>>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>>
>>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>>>why it's not available online.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>>>the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>>>seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>>>I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>>>sometime.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>>
>> I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are
>> "broken". On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at
>> all, but as you said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
>
> It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
> most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100
> for sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so
> I'm pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
Holy sh*t. We actually agree on something :-P
Eric
news:KOsbg.8908$lb.806909@news1.epix.net:
> Eric G. wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
>> @news1.epix.net:
>>
>>
>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>>
>>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>>
>>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>>
>>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>>
>>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>>>why it's not available online.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>>>the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>>>seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>>>I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>>>sometime.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>>
>> I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are
>> "broken". On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at
>> all, but as you said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
>
> It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
> most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100
> for sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so
> I'm pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
Holy sh*t. We actually agree on something :-P
Eric
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:KOsbg.8908$lb.806909@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Eric G. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
>>>@news1.epix.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>>>
>>>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>>>
>>>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>>>>why it's not available online.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>>>>the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>>>>seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>>>>I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>>>>sometime.
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are
>>>"broken". On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at
>>>all, but as you said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
>>
>>It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
>>most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100
>>for sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so
>>I'm pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
>
>
> Holy sh*t. We actually agree on something :-P
Well, random chance says that should happen from time to time. :-)
Matt
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:KOsbg.8908$lb.806909@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Eric G. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
>>>@news1.epix.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>>>
>>>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>>>
>>>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>>>>why it's not available online.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>>>>the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>>>>seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>>>>I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>>>>sometime.
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are
>>>"broken". On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at
>>>all, but as you said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
>>
>>It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
>>most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100
>>for sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so
>>I'm pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
>
>
> Holy sh*t. We actually agree on something :-P
Well, random chance says that should happen from time to time. :-)
Matt
#27
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:KOsbg.8908$lb.806909@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Eric G. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
>>>@news1.epix.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>>>
>>>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>>>
>>>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>>>>why it's not available online.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>>>>the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>>>>seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>>>>I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>>>>sometime.
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are
>>>"broken". On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at
>>>all, but as you said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
>>
>>It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
>>most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100
>>for sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so
>>I'm pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
>
>
> Holy sh*t. We actually agree on something :-P
Well, random chance says that should happen from time to time. :-)
Matt
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:KOsbg.8908$lb.806909@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Eric G. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
>>>@news1.epix.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>>>
>>>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>>>
>>>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>>>>why it's not available online.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>>>>the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>>>>seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>>>>I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>>>>sometime.
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are
>>>"broken". On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at
>>>all, but as you said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
>>
>>It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
>>most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100
>>for sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so
>>I'm pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
>
>
> Holy sh*t. We actually agree on something :-P
Well, random chance says that should happen from time to time. :-)
Matt
#28
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:KOsbg.8908$lb.806909@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Eric G. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
>>>@news1.epix.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>>>
>>>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>>>
>>>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>>>>why it's not available online.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>>>>the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>>>>seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>>>>I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>>>>sometime.
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are
>>>"broken". On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at
>>>all, but as you said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
>>
>>It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
>>most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100
>>for sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so
>>I'm pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
>
>
> Holy sh*t. We actually agree on something :-P
Well, random chance says that should happen from time to time. :-)
Matt
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:KOsbg.8908$lb.806909@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Eric G. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:HCrbg.8904$lb.806516
>>>@news1.epix.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>>>>>
>>>>>Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
>>>>>achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>>>>>
>>>>>I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure
>>>>>why it's not available online.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I was traveling between 55 and 60 when I timed it this morning, but
>>>>the shortest period wasn't even close to 2.6 seconds, or even 1.9
>>>>seconds. It was zero, or at best a few milliseconds. Less than what
>>>>I could perceive as any delay at all. I'll time it setting still
>>>>sometime.
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>I have to agree. That manual is either wrong, or our cars are
>>>"broken". On the fastest setting there is no perceivable "stop" at
>>>all, but as you said, it could be a few milliseconds at most.
>>
>>It has been a while since I studied human factors stuff, but I think
>>most humans can perceived events that last even 50 milliseconds, 100
>>for sure. I can't perceive any delay on the S end of the range, so
>>I'm pretty sure it is less than 50 ms.
>
>
> Holy sh*t. We actually agree on something :-P
Well, random chance says that should happen from time to time. :-)
Matt
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
If the new sonata is set up like my 03 Santa Fe the delay time is
related to what speed the transmission is moving. Once you hit third
gear the shortest delay pretty much becomes a continuous wipe. Below
3rd gear or at a stop there is a brief pause when on the shortest
delay.
The assumption is that there will be more mist as you go faster. It is
supposed to work like those car stereos in other makes that raise or
lower the volume with the car's speed.
Check it out... Is the new Sonata set up the same way?
related to what speed the transmission is moving. Once you hit third
gear the shortest delay pretty much becomes a continuous wipe. Below
3rd gear or at a stop there is a brief pause when on the shortest
delay.
The assumption is that there will be more mist as you go faster. It is
supposed to work like those car stereos in other makes that raise or
lower the volume with the car's speed.
Check it out... Is the new Sonata set up the same way?
#30
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
If the new sonata is set up like my 03 Santa Fe the delay time is
related to what speed the transmission is moving. Once you hit third
gear the shortest delay pretty much becomes a continuous wipe. Below
3rd gear or at a stop there is a brief pause when on the shortest
delay.
The assumption is that there will be more mist as you go faster. It is
supposed to work like those car stereos in other makes that raise or
lower the volume with the car's speed.
Check it out... Is the new Sonata set up the same way?
related to what speed the transmission is moving. Once you hit third
gear the shortest delay pretty much becomes a continuous wipe. Below
3rd gear or at a stop there is a brief pause when on the shortest
delay.
The assumption is that there will be more mist as you go faster. It is
supposed to work like those car stereos in other makes that raise or
lower the volume with the car's speed.
Check it out... Is the new Sonata set up the same way?