06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
hyundaitech wrote:
> If the 2006 Sonata intermittent wipers are like the prior Sonatas, I
> believe there's a two- or three-tier timing system based on vehicle speed.
>
>
> I believe once you reach a predetermined speed, the fastest setting
> becomes constant operation, and when you reach the next predetermined
> speed, the fastest two settings become constant operation.
>
> I actually had to replace the time and alarm control unit (basically a
> "dumb" body control module) in a 2003 Sonata because the customer noticed
> it wasn't changing speed as it was intended. I don't think technical
> assistance was even able to provide me with the exact details of how the
> delay changed other than that there were tiers as described above.
>
> Sounds to me like they may be operating normally. Check 'em again when
> not moving and compare with the specs.
>
Thanks, will do.
I honestly can't understand the logic of having the fastest speed or,
worse yet, two speeds be continuous operation when you already have a
continuous operation level position. That is just nuts. What was
Hyundai thinking when they designed these wipers?
Matt
> If the 2006 Sonata intermittent wipers are like the prior Sonatas, I
> believe there's a two- or three-tier timing system based on vehicle speed.
>
>
> I believe once you reach a predetermined speed, the fastest setting
> becomes constant operation, and when you reach the next predetermined
> speed, the fastest two settings become constant operation.
>
> I actually had to replace the time and alarm control unit (basically a
> "dumb" body control module) in a 2003 Sonata because the customer noticed
> it wasn't changing speed as it was intended. I don't think technical
> assistance was even able to provide me with the exact details of how the
> delay changed other than that there were tiers as described above.
>
> Sounds to me like they may be operating normally. Check 'em again when
> not moving and compare with the specs.
>
Thanks, will do.
I honestly can't understand the logic of having the fastest speed or,
worse yet, two speeds be continuous operation when you already have a
continuous operation level position. That is just nuts. What was
Hyundai thinking when they designed these wipers?
Matt
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
hyundaitech wrote:
> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>
> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>
> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>
> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>
> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
> it's not available online.
>
I just checked my wiper delay with the car sitting still in my driveway.
The shortest period is 1.0 to maybe 1.2 seconds. Appears to be well
below the spec.
The longers period is 17 seconds plus or minus a little, so that's
probably pretty close to spec.
Is there any adjustment to this? I'm assuming the delay is set by a
varistor (or set of resistors) in the switch itself and thus non adjustable.
Matt
> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>
> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>
> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>
> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>
> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
> it's not available online.
>
I just checked my wiper delay with the car sitting still in my driveway.
The shortest period is 1.0 to maybe 1.2 seconds. Appears to be well
below the spec.
The longers period is 17 seconds plus or minus a little, so that's
probably pretty close to spec.
Is there any adjustment to this? I'm assuming the delay is set by a
varistor (or set of resistors) in the switch itself and thus non adjustable.
Matt
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
hyundaitech wrote:
> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>
> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>
> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>
> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>
> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
> it's not available online.
>
I just checked my wiper delay with the car sitting still in my driveway.
The shortest period is 1.0 to maybe 1.2 seconds. Appears to be well
below the spec.
The longers period is 17 seconds plus or minus a little, so that's
probably pretty close to spec.
Is there any adjustment to this? I'm assuming the delay is set by a
varistor (or set of resistors) in the switch itself and thus non adjustable.
Matt
> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>
> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>
> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>
> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>
> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
> it's not available online.
>
I just checked my wiper delay with the car sitting still in my driveway.
The shortest period is 1.0 to maybe 1.2 seconds. Appears to be well
below the spec.
The longers period is 17 seconds plus or minus a little, so that's
probably pretty close to spec.
Is there any adjustment to this? I'm assuming the delay is set by a
varistor (or set of resistors) in the switch itself and thus non adjustable.
Matt
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
hyundaitech wrote:
> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>
> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>
> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>
> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>
> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
> it's not available online.
>
I just checked my wiper delay with the car sitting still in my driveway.
The shortest period is 1.0 to maybe 1.2 seconds. Appears to be well
below the spec.
The longers period is 17 seconds plus or minus a little, so that's
probably pretty close to spec.
Is there any adjustment to this? I'm assuming the delay is set by a
varistor (or set of resistors) in the switch itself and thus non adjustable.
Matt
> Here's the specs on the intermittent wipers:
>
> Shortest period, T = 2.6 +/- 0.7 sec
>
> Longest period, T = 18.0 +/- 1.0 sec
>
> The manual makes the implication that the longest period can only be
> achieved if the vehicle is not moving.
>
> I had to get this out of the hard copy of the manual. I'm not sure why
> it's not available online.
>
I just checked my wiper delay with the car sitting still in my driveway.
The shortest period is 1.0 to maybe 1.2 seconds. Appears to be well
below the spec.
The longers period is 17 seconds plus or minus a little, so that's
probably pretty close to spec.
Is there any adjustment to this? I'm assuming the delay is set by a
varistor (or set of resistors) in the switch itself and thus non adjustable.
Matt
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
I'm guessing that they intended for you to set them when sitting still and
then the delay lessened as you sped up.
Speed sensitive wipers. It's the latest thing. Haven't you heard? All
the big-guy cars have it, so Hyundai needs it, too. Well, I'm sure you
already know the logic behind this.
then the delay lessened as you sped up.
Speed sensitive wipers. It's the latest thing. Haven't you heard? All
the big-guy cars have it, so Hyundai needs it, too. Well, I'm sure you
already know the logic behind this.
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
I'm guessing that they intended for you to set them when sitting still and
then the delay lessened as you sped up.
Speed sensitive wipers. It's the latest thing. Haven't you heard? All
the big-guy cars have it, so Hyundai needs it, too. Well, I'm sure you
already know the logic behind this.
then the delay lessened as you sped up.
Speed sensitive wipers. It's the latest thing. Haven't you heard? All
the big-guy cars have it, so Hyundai needs it, too. Well, I'm sure you
already know the logic behind this.
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
I'm guessing that they intended for you to set them when sitting still and
then the delay lessened as you sped up.
Speed sensitive wipers. It's the latest thing. Haven't you heard? All
the big-guy cars have it, so Hyundai needs it, too. Well, I'm sure you
already know the logic behind this.
then the delay lessened as you sped up.
Speed sensitive wipers. It's the latest thing. Haven't you heard? All
the big-guy cars have it, so Hyundai needs it, too. Well, I'm sure you
already know the logic behind this.
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Your body control module reads the resistance of the wiper switch and then
sets the delay accordingly.
What's worse, the shortest delay being out of spec isn't necessarily a
problem, either. Those sorts of things get changed all the time during
the manufacturing run (for who knows what reasons) without anyone telling
the people who work on the cars.
sets the delay accordingly.
What's worse, the shortest delay being out of spec isn't necessarily a
problem, either. Those sorts of things get changed all the time during
the manufacturing run (for who knows what reasons) without anyone telling
the people who work on the cars.
Guest
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Your body control module reads the resistance of the wiper switch and then
sets the delay accordingly.
What's worse, the shortest delay being out of spec isn't necessarily a
problem, either. Those sorts of things get changed all the time during
the manufacturing run (for who knows what reasons) without anyone telling
the people who work on the cars.
sets the delay accordingly.
What's worse, the shortest delay being out of spec isn't necessarily a
problem, either. Those sorts of things get changed all the time during
the manufacturing run (for who knows what reasons) without anyone telling
the people who work on the cars.
Guest
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Your body control module reads the resistance of the wiper switch and then
sets the delay accordingly.
What's worse, the shortest delay being out of spec isn't necessarily a
problem, either. Those sorts of things get changed all the time during
the manufacturing run (for who knows what reasons) without anyone telling
the people who work on the cars.
sets the delay accordingly.
What's worse, the shortest delay being out of spec isn't necessarily a
problem, either. Those sorts of things get changed all the time during
the manufacturing run (for who knows what reasons) without anyone telling
the people who work on the cars.
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
hyundaitech wrote:
> I'm guessing that they intended for you to set them when sitting still and
> then the delay lessened as you sped up.
>
> Speed sensitive wipers. It's the latest thing. Haven't you heard? All
> the big-guy cars have it, so Hyundai needs it, too. Well, I'm sure you
> already know the logic behind this.
Yes, design by MBA or design by marketing.
I'm not against the speed sensitive wipers, I just think that it is dumb
to have the shortest period go to a point that it overlaps a setting
already available. This is just poor design. The short setting should
always maintain some delay regardless of speed. Maybe it is 3 seconds
when standing still and 1 second at 70, but having the short period go
to zero just makes no sense to me.
Personally, I'm more tha happy with my conventional intermittent wipers
that let me set the delay from a second or so up to 30 seconds. Works
great, no surprises!
Matt
> I'm guessing that they intended for you to set them when sitting still and
> then the delay lessened as you sped up.
>
> Speed sensitive wipers. It's the latest thing. Haven't you heard? All
> the big-guy cars have it, so Hyundai needs it, too. Well, I'm sure you
> already know the logic behind this.
Yes, design by MBA or design by marketing.
I'm not against the speed sensitive wipers, I just think that it is dumb
to have the shortest period go to a point that it overlaps a setting
already available. This is just poor design. The short setting should
always maintain some delay regardless of speed. Maybe it is 3 seconds
when standing still and 1 second at 70, but having the short period go
to zero just makes no sense to me.
Personally, I'm more tha happy with my conventional intermittent wipers
that let me set the delay from a second or so up to 30 seconds. Works
great, no surprises!
Matt
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
hyundaitech wrote:
> I'm guessing that they intended for you to set them when sitting still and
> then the delay lessened as you sped up.
>
> Speed sensitive wipers. It's the latest thing. Haven't you heard? All
> the big-guy cars have it, so Hyundai needs it, too. Well, I'm sure you
> already know the logic behind this.
Yes, design by MBA or design by marketing.
I'm not against the speed sensitive wipers, I just think that it is dumb
to have the shortest period go to a point that it overlaps a setting
already available. This is just poor design. The short setting should
always maintain some delay regardless of speed. Maybe it is 3 seconds
when standing still and 1 second at 70, but having the short period go
to zero just makes no sense to me.
Personally, I'm more tha happy with my conventional intermittent wipers
that let me set the delay from a second or so up to 30 seconds. Works
great, no surprises!
Matt
> I'm guessing that they intended for you to set them when sitting still and
> then the delay lessened as you sped up.
>
> Speed sensitive wipers. It's the latest thing. Haven't you heard? All
> the big-guy cars have it, so Hyundai needs it, too. Well, I'm sure you
> already know the logic behind this.
Yes, design by MBA or design by marketing.
I'm not against the speed sensitive wipers, I just think that it is dumb
to have the shortest period go to a point that it overlaps a setting
already available. This is just poor design. The short setting should
always maintain some delay regardless of speed. Maybe it is 3 seconds
when standing still and 1 second at 70, but having the short period go
to zero just makes no sense to me.
Personally, I'm more tha happy with my conventional intermittent wipers
that let me set the delay from a second or so up to 30 seconds. Works
great, no surprises!
Matt
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
hyundaitech wrote:
> I'm guessing that they intended for you to set them when sitting still and
> then the delay lessened as you sped up.
>
> Speed sensitive wipers. It's the latest thing. Haven't you heard? All
> the big-guy cars have it, so Hyundai needs it, too. Well, I'm sure you
> already know the logic behind this.
Yes, design by MBA or design by marketing.
I'm not against the speed sensitive wipers, I just think that it is dumb
to have the shortest period go to a point that it overlaps a setting
already available. This is just poor design. The short setting should
always maintain some delay regardless of speed. Maybe it is 3 seconds
when standing still and 1 second at 70, but having the short period go
to zero just makes no sense to me.
Personally, I'm more tha happy with my conventional intermittent wipers
that let me set the delay from a second or so up to 30 seconds. Works
great, no surprises!
Matt
> I'm guessing that they intended for you to set them when sitting still and
> then the delay lessened as you sped up.
>
> Speed sensitive wipers. It's the latest thing. Haven't you heard? All
> the big-guy cars have it, so Hyundai needs it, too. Well, I'm sure you
> already know the logic behind this.
Yes, design by MBA or design by marketing.
I'm not against the speed sensitive wipers, I just think that it is dumb
to have the shortest period go to a point that it overlaps a setting
already available. This is just poor design. The short setting should
always maintain some delay regardless of speed. Maybe it is 3 seconds
when standing still and 1 second at 70, but having the short period go
to zero just makes no sense to me.
Personally, I'm more tha happy with my conventional intermittent wipers
that let me set the delay from a second or so up to 30 seconds. Works
great, no surprises!
Matt
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
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> Personally, I'm more tha happy with my conventional intermittent
> wipers that let me set the delay from a second or so up to 30 seconds.
> Works great, no surprises!
I have to agree with you on that. Seems that some engineering should stay
on the drawing board.
Eric
news:hTLbg.8923$lb.809637@news1.epix.net:
> Personally, I'm more tha happy with my conventional intermittent
> wipers that let me set the delay from a second or so up to 30 seconds.
> Works great, no surprises!
I have to agree with you on that. Seems that some engineering should stay
on the drawing board.
Eric
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Re: 06 Sonata intermittent wiper delay
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:hTLbg.8923$lb.809637@news1.epix.net:
> Personally, I'm more tha happy with my conventional intermittent
> wipers that let me set the delay from a second or so up to 30 seconds.
> Works great, no surprises!
I have to agree with you on that. Seems that some engineering should stay
on the drawing board.
Eric
news:hTLbg.8923$lb.809637@news1.epix.net:
> Personally, I'm more tha happy with my conventional intermittent
> wipers that let me set the delay from a second or so up to 30 seconds.
> Works great, no surprises!
I have to agree with you on that. Seems that some engineering should stay
on the drawing board.
Eric
