Dave in Lake Villa

'I can assure you, they wont . So sometimes you have to matters
into y our own hands to come up with a solution. '

Why won't they? You sometimes have to make a PITA of yourself. Call the
salesman every day about it. Call the service manager every day about
it. I'd be at the dealer every day until corrected. Parked right in
front of the bay door in the morning. Or parked across the street with a
sign on the car. Lots of ways to get a nuisance fixed.'

REPLY: They wont because its designed into the Hyundai and most likely
changing it would be considered 'tampering with emissions'.

Dave in Lake Villa

'So you are saying that there is no idle screw or the throttle body and
the only way to change the idle is by re-programming the computer?'

REPLY: Im afraid the days of the carbureator are long gone ; theres no
idle screw in FI'd cars.

Wayne Moses

Reply to message from "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> (Fri, 10 Nov
2006 16:13:31) about "Re: 06 Sonata V6 cold start":

h> But I mostly wanted to chime in and say that the dealer who replaced
h> your steering rack and insisted you pay for the alignment was ripping
h> you off.

Actually I doubt it. I was on a first name basis with most of the people in
the dealership from the salesman to the owner to the customer service
manage and the mechanics. They did a lot quite a lot of work for me - a
picky customer - all under warranty.

Let me clarify one important point - the year was 1990 and this was in
Canada. The coverage was by Hyundai Auto Canada and it was 16 years ago
before warranties get to where they are today.

I still have good thoughts about that dealership. Bought 2 Hyundais from
them - the only dealership so far to get my repeat business.

h> In my opinion, Hyundai doesn't pay enough labor time

... period. Or at least so I was told by more than one Service Manager or
mechanic over the years. I guess they have to hold the line on cost
somehow.

Best Regards
Wayne Moses <wmoses@houston.rr.com> Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:20:21 -0600

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PMDR

To update the issue somewhat, the "problem" I saw was happening in the
mid 30s. It has barely gotten to freezing once so far this winter.
Fall. Whatever season it is.

It hasn't had the "problem" lately, but then it's been somewhat warmer
too. The cold-cold doesn't come until January, which is around the
time of my next service date.

Eric G. wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in
> news:n9S4h.6490$yl4.2357@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m:
>
> >
> > "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
> > news:ce9b18c8d4baf0e128bb2ee3c3284735@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> >> They won't fix it because it isn't broken. Hyundai will neither
> >> authorize nor pay for repairs that are for reasons other than to
> >> repair defects.
> >>
> >
> > 2100 RPM is normal? I've not had any temperature under 25 degrees F
> > yet and my V6 has not approached that speed. I've never seen 2100 RPM
> > idle on any car I've ever owned no matter how cold. If every Sonata
> > V6 hits 2100 on start up, I'd agree, but if they are all programmed
> > the same way that 2100 would seem to be abnormal to me if the others
> > are a more normal 1200 or so.
>
> I have to agree here. My 2006 Sonata V6 was purchased in 9/2005. I've
> made it through a complete winter already in my area of NJ, with
> temperatures down to 0F and my car has never idled higher than what looks
> like 1200-1300 RPM. It does the same in the middle of the summer, albeit
> for a shorter amount of time.
>
> Something is just not right here unless a few degrees difference can have
> such an effect.
>
> Eric

hyundaitech

I agree that Hyundai doesn't pay enough labor time on warranty claims. But
that's also the case with every manufacturer I've ever encountered.

The dealer has an agreement with the manufacturer to provide warranty
service. It does not permit the dealer to charge the customer for
warranty service just because the dealer believes he's not getting enough
time from Hyundai.

In any event, I'm glad your issue was resolved and that you're happy with
the dealer.

Bob

PMDR wrote:
> Somewhat colder weather has started settling in and my 06 V6 Sonata
> (<5000 miles) is doing some new things on a cold start.
>
> Normally it fires up and holds around 1100rpm. Now, it's jumping
> above 2100rpm and holding that for five or ten seconds. It's
> something like what would happen if you started it with your foot on
> the gas, which I am _not_ doing.
>
> So what's the issue? I always heard that it was never a good idea to
> rev a cold engine because it promotes carbon buildup. And anyway, the
> car didn't do this in the summer. Is this normal cold weather
> behavior for a Lamda V6?
>
> I am also still getting some sort of vibration at idle which feels and
> sounds like a classic misfire. It's plainly felt from the driver's
> seat and heard audibly out the exhaust pipes.
>
> At the 3500 mile oil change, I asked the dealer to check that and they
> said they found nothing abnormal.
>
This is for fuel mileage and clean air reasons. The faster the engine
warms up the faster it's operating at it's most fuel efficient
temperature with the leaast emissions.