Mike Bender

Hi all,

My wife's 2000 Accent (27000 miles, manual trans.) started running
rough and giving her an intermittent check engine light. She brought it
home and parked it. I didn't get a chance to look at it for about 4-5
days. I tried to start it and while the engine would crank, I couldn't
get it to fire. I tried connecting my OBDII code reader
(http://www.otctools.com/newcatalog/detail.php3?id=295) and got an error
message (no useable code). Also, I noticed that when I turned the key to
the run position, the check engine light remains dark (other indicator
lights come on). I took a look under the hood and couldn't find anything
obvious amiss. Since I wasn't able to get a code out of the computer, I
tried disconnecting the battery for 15 minutes to see if things would
reset. Still no joy. So my questions are:

1. I've read other postings where people weren't able to read an OBD code
from Hyundais. Is there some special magic I should know to get a code?

2. Is it normal for the CEL to be dark when the ignition is on but the
car isn't running? I wouldn't think so, but you never know...

3. Does anyone have any helpful suggestions for what to look at next?

The car is still under the 5year/60K mile warranty but if it's something
simple like a popped fuse keeping the computer from getting power, I'd
like to save the aggravation of a tow and having the car out of
commission.

Replies to the group and/or e-mail are appreaciated.

Ad<thanx>vance

Snuffy

Jody

take it to the dealer sounds like your cam shaft position sensors gone
"Mike Bender" <snuffmiester@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9625A21A1FC46snuffmiesterhotmailc@216.196. 97.136...
> Hi all,
>
> My wife's 2000 Accent (27000 miles, manual trans.) started running
> rough and giving her an intermittent check engine light. She brought it
> home and parked it. I didn't get a chance to look at it for about 4-5
> days. I tried to start it and while the engine would crank, I couldn't
> get it to fire. I tried connecting my OBDII code reader
> (http://www.otctools.com/newcatalog/detail.php3?id=295) and got an error
> message (no useable code). Also, I noticed that when I turned the key to
> the run position, the check engine light remains dark (other indicator
> lights come on). I took a look under the hood and couldn't find anything
> obvious amiss. Since I wasn't able to get a code out of the computer, I
> tried disconnecting the battery for 15 minutes to see if things would
> reset. Still no joy. So my questions are:
>
> 1. I've read other postings where people weren't able to read an OBD code
> from Hyundais. Is there some special magic I should know to get a code?
>
> 2. Is it normal for the CEL to be dark when the ignition is on but the
> car isn't running? I wouldn't think so, but you never know...
>
> 3. Does anyone have any helpful suggestions for what to look at next?
>
> The car is still under the 5year/60K mile warranty but if it's something
> simple like a popped fuse keeping the computer from getting power, I'd
> like to save the aggravation of a tow and having the car out of
> commission.
>
> Replies to the group and/or e-mail are appreaciated.
>
> Ad<thanx>vance
>
> Snuffy

Mike Bender

"Jody" <jaaribare@yahoo.com> wrote in
newsEk1e.11403$JK1.1042255@news20.bellglobal.com :

> take it to the dealer sounds like your cam shaft position sensors gone
> "Mike Bender" <snuffmiester@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9625A21A1FC46snuffmiesterhotmailc@216.196. 97.136...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> My wife's 2000 Accent (27000 miles, manual trans.) started running
>> rough and giving her an intermittent check engine light. She brought
>> it home and parked it. I didn't get a chance to look at it for about
>> 4-5 days. I tried to start it and while the engine would crank, I
>> couldn't get it to fire. I tried connecting my OBDII code reader
>> (http://www.otctools.com/newcatalog/detail.php3?id=295) and got an
>> error message (no useable code). Also, I noticed that when I turned
>> the key to the run position, the check engine light remains dark
>> (other indicator lights come on). I took a look under the hood and
>> couldn't find anything obvious amiss. Since I wasn't able to get a
>> code out of the computer, I tried disconnecting the battery for 15
>> minutes to see if things would reset. Still no joy. So my questions
>> are:
>>
>> 1. I've read other postings where people weren't able to read an OBD
>> code from Hyundais. Is there some special magic I should know to get
>> a code?
>>
>> 2. Is it normal for the CEL to be dark when the ignition is on but
>> the car isn't running? I wouldn't think so, but you never know...
>>
>> 3. Does anyone have any helpful suggestions for what to look at next?
>>
>> The car is still under the 5year/60K mile warranty but if it's
>> something simple like a popped fuse keeping the computer from getting
>> power, I'd like to save the aggravation of a tow and having the car
>> out of commission.
>>
>> Replies to the group and/or e-mail are appreaciated.
>>
>> Ad<thanx>vance
>>
>> Snuffy
>
>
>

Thanks for the tip, Jody.

Seeing as it's Sunday, I'd figured I'd just take a look at the cam
position sensor to see if it was something like a dirty connection.
Everything looked fine. The fact that I couldn't get a code out of the
diagnostic computer still bothered me, though. Since I didn't have
anything better to do at the moment, I decided to recheck the fuses and
relays in the underhood box that had to do with the ECU. After I pulled
and reseated every fuse and relay related to the ECU (no fuses were
blown), I was able to get a reading on my OBD scanner and the car started
right up. Apparently one or more of the connections had become dirty and
was preventing power to the ECU. Judging by some of the postings I've
seen here and in other places (unable to start or get a code from the
OBD) this isn't an uncommon occurence. Oh well, something to tuck away
for future reference. At least I didn't pay for a tow to the dealer and
diagnostic time.

Snuffy