Never_Enough_Tools

Hi,

My daughters car is a 2000 Elantra....it has a distinct growling from the
front while driving, more pronounced when decelerating. You can pretty much
feel it in the seat of your pants, low rumbly growl....changes with speed.

What am I looking for here ???

TIA

Jeff

Speedy Jim

Never_Enough_Tools wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My daughters car is a 2000 Elantra....it has a distinct growling from the
> front while driving, more pronounced when decelerating. You can pretty much
> feel it in the seat of your pants, low rumbly growl....changes with speed.
>
> What am I looking for here ???
>
> TIA
>
> Jeff
>
>

Assume it's an automatic tranny?

Rev. Tom Wenndt

Hmm. Sounds more like a wheel bearing/hub assembly to me. Some Hyundais do
have a history of that.



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> Never_Enough_Tools wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My daughters car is a 2000 Elantra....it has a distinct growling from the
>> front while driving, more pronounced when decelerating. You can pretty
>> much feel it in the seat of your pants, low rumbly growl....changes with
>> speed.
>>
>> What am I looking for here ???
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Jeff
>
> Assume it's an automatic tranny?

Never_Enough_Tools

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> Never_Enough_Tools wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My daughters car is a 2000 Elantra....it has a distinct growling from the
>> front while driving, more pronounced when decelerating. You can pretty
>> much feel it in the seat of your pants, low rumbly growl....changes with
>> speed.
>>
>> What am I looking for here ???
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Jeff
>
> Assume it's an automatic tranny?


Yes, Its an Auto....Sorry....

Speedy Jim

Never_Enough_Tools wrote:

> "Speedy Jim" <volks_cleve@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>Never_Enough_Tools wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>My daughters car is a 2000 Elantra....it has a distinct growling from the
>>>front while driving, more pronounced when decelerating. You can pretty
>>>much feel it in the seat of your pants, low rumbly growl....changes with
>>>speed.
>>>
>>>What am I looking for here ???
>>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>Jeff
>>
>> Assume it's an automatic tranny?
>
>
>
> Yes, Its an Auto....Sorry....
>
>

As suggested, might be bearing.
Or a CV joint...

But, does the sound change when turning one way or the other?

Post as many clues as you can and perhaps Hyundaitech can diagnose
from afar.

Jim

Brian Nystrom

Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> Hmm. Sounds more like a wheel bearing/hub assembly to me. Some Hyundais do
> have a history of that.

I agree with Tom, The first thing I'd check is the wheel bearings. Jack
up the front end, then grab one of the wheels at the top and bottom and
see if there's any play in it. If so, the bearing is shot.

Mike Marlow

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> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>> Hmm. Sounds more like a wheel bearing/hub assembly to me. Some Hyundais
>> do have a history of that.
>
> I agree with Tom, The first thing I'd check is the wheel bearings. Jack up
> the front end, then grab one of the wheels at the top and bottom and see
> if there's any play in it. If so, the bearing is shot.

However... if you do not feel any play, that is not conclusive evidence that
the wheel bearing and hub assembly is ok in today's front wheel drive
vehicles. It's really hard to diagnose a front hub failure (in its earlier
stages) by lifting the wheels and trying to feel play.

Does the noise get more pronounced when turning right or left? If so, then
likely the bearing/hub on the opposite side of the direction you are turning
is probably bad. If it gets quieter turning in one direction or the other,
then likely the bearing on the side of the turn is bad.

CV joints do not typically fail with groaning noises. They generally give
clicking sounds when turning one direction or the other. Left long enough,
they can develop into other noises, but it is usually hard to get past the
early stage failure sounds.

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hyundaitech

You guys are on track so far. Best is if you can put it on a lift and have
someone drive it while you probe around for the noise source. So far,
though, my money is on hub bearing.

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> You guys are on track so far. Best is if you can put it on a lift and
> have
> someone drive it while you probe around for the noise source. So far,
> though, my money is on hub bearing.
>
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Thanks Guys,

I can't really check it out at the moment due to weather, But I'll post when
I find out any more....

Any guesses as to what the hub / bearing job would cost???? My book says it
is better left to a shop due to special tools....

Also, is this thing gonna go south quickly ??? She drives to school, no
highway, maybe 10 mi per day........Yes , No, or anyones guess ????

Jeff

hyundaitech

Hard to say. Most last for quite a while. On the other hand, here's the
story from my personal car.

Saturday -- Noise sounding like hub bearing appears.
Monday -- Noise goes away driving to work.
Thursday -- Change oil and check hub bearings. All appears normal.
Saturday -- Noise returns about 40 miles from work. I attempt to make it
to work and don't. Lots of grinding and squeaking noises, with me driving
*very* slowly once these noises begin. About 35 miles later, wheel
starting to lock up.
Upon disassembly, I find that there are *no* rollers left in the bearing.
ABS tone wheel and wheel speed sensor damaged from rubbing against each
other. Didn't have axle, so I put it together and test drove. Wheel
speed sensor works, but tone wheel is damaged enough to cause ABS to
intermittently engage intermittently when nearly stopped. Replacing axle
fixes issue. Used a cheap reman axle, so it probably still cost me less
than paying the additional mileage on the tow.

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"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> Hard to say. Most last for quite a while. On the other hand, here's the
> story from my personal car.
>
> Saturday -- Noise sounding like hub bearing appears.
> Monday -- Noise goes away driving to work.
> Thursday -- Change oil and check hub bearings. All appears normal.
> Saturday -- Noise returns about 40 miles from work. I attempt to make it
> to work and don't. Lots of grinding and squeaking noises, with me driving
> *very* slowly once these noises begin. About 35 miles later, wheel
> starting to lock up.
> Upon disassembly, I find that there are *no* rollers left in the bearing.
> ABS tone wheel and wheel speed sensor damaged from rubbing against each
> other. Didn't have axle, so I put it together and test drove. Wheel
> speed sensor works, but tone wheel is damaged enough to cause ABS to
> intermittently engage intermittently when nearly stopped. Replacing axle
> fixes issue. Used a cheap reman axle, so it probably still cost me less
> than paying the additional mileage on the tow.
>
Ouch....hopefully I'll be a little lucky-er.....

Jeff

Rev. Tom Wenndt

As to your question of price, it depends. If you have a full-blown bearing
hub assembly unit, the part is quite expensive - usually over $100, even
from places like Auto Zone. But they are easy to put on - usually a D.I.Y.
repair.

But I have a hunch the '00 Elantra takes a standard wheel bearing that
includes the spindle and everything else. The part itself (if nothing else
is bad) is much cheaper, but it is a much more complicated repair, best left
to a dedicated tech.

Incidentally, if I am right, and it is a bearing, waste NO TIME getting it
fixed. When they start going bad, they freeze quickly. I am told by some
mechanics that at some point, your wheel could (not necessarily would but
could) fall off, especially in warmer weather. At the very least, it will
(as HyundaiTech described it) start gobbling up other front end parts, to
where the repair gets almost prohibitively expensive, short of finding
another junkyard assembly.

The bearing/hub assembly units will just get louder, and have a little more
forgiveness in them. But as soon as you know what it is, at least if you
are me, usually that provides enough paranoia to get it fixed ASAP.

Hope this helps.


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> "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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>> You guys are on track so far. Best is if you can put it on a lift and
>> have
>> someone drive it while you probe around for the noise source. So far,
>> though, my money is on hub bearing.
>>
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>
> Thanks Guys,
>
> I can't really check it out at the moment due to weather, But I'll post
> when I find out any more....
>
> Any guesses as to what the hub / bearing job would cost???? My book says
> it is better left to a shop due to special tools....
>
> Also, is this thing gonna go south quickly ??? She drives to school, no
> highway, maybe 10 mi per day........Yes , No, or anyones guess ????
>
> Jeff
>

hyundaitech

The front bearing is separate and is pressed into the knuckle. The rear
bearing is part of the hub and is not serviced separately.

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> The front bearing is separate and is pressed into the knuckle. The rear
> bearing is part of the hub and is not serviced separately.
>
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Thanks for all the tips guys....If I get a warm day I'll lift it up and
check for play....

I'm pretty sure I'll end up taking it for repair, but I like to know what
I'm dealing with !!

Jeff

Brian Nystrom

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>>> Hmm. Sounds more like a wheel bearing/hub assembly to me. Some Hyundais
>>> do have a history of that.
>> I agree with Tom, The first thing I'd check is the wheel bearings. Jack up
>> the front end, then grab one of the wheels at the top and bottom and see
>> if there's any play in it. If so, the bearing is shot.
>
> However... if you do not feel any play, that is not conclusive evidence that
> the wheel bearing and hub assembly is ok in today's front wheel drive
> vehicles. It's really hard to diagnose a front hub failure (in its earlier
> stages) by lifting the wheels and trying to feel play.

That's true and I meant to put it in my original post.