Mike Marlow

"joe" <jcharth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1139601546.814330.20660@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
> the timing belt change did not fix the problem now they say it could be
> the valves, i guess is time to call insurance and the extende warranty
>
>

Whoa! Geezus - wait just a minute. You are authorizing work on a "maybe it
will work" notion, with what is clearly no understanding of how an engine
works, and posting to a usenet newsgroup for suggestions on what to do next?

God lord Joe, you've got to find out what your extended warranty covers
first. Second, you've got to check with your Hyundai dealer - your car
should be covered for 60,000 miles by Hyundai without any extended warranty.
If your car has 58,000 on it, it's still just barely below Hyundai's
recommended mileage for the belt change and it should be covered under the
Hyundai warranty. Your extended warranty probably has a deductible so if
you try to use it you'll be eating that deductible. The Hyundai warranty
has no such deductible. Do yourself a favor and go to the Hyundai web site
and read the warranty and then go talk to the dealer.

You surely have engine damage since your motor is an interference engine.
Break the timing belt and things that should not, come into contact with
each other.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

bo peep

<<your car should be covered for 60,000 miles by Hyundai without any
extended warranty>>

The Hyundai website says that belts are only covered for 12k miles. I
suppose the timing belt is a "belt"?

"Wear Items: 1 year / 12,000 miles (e.g. belts, brake pads & linings,
clutch linings, filters, wiper blades, bulbs, fuses)"

John Cowart

bo peep

<<your car should be covered for 60,000 miles by Hyundai without any
extended warranty>>

The Hyundai website says that belts are only covered for 12k miles. I
suppose the timing belt is a "belt"?

"Wear Items: 1 year / 12,000 miles (e.g. belts, brake pads & linings,
clutch linings, filters, wiper blades, bulbs, fuses)"

John Cowart

bo peep

<<your car should be covered for 60,000 miles by Hyundai without any
extended warranty>>

The Hyundai website says that belts are only covered for 12k miles. I
suppose the timing belt is a "belt"?

"Wear Items: 1 year / 12,000 miles (e.g. belts, brake pads & linings,
clutch linings, filters, wiper blades, bulbs, fuses)"

John Cowart

hyundaitech

This timing belt is covered for 4 years/60k miles, at which time the belt
needs to be replaced because it's at the replacement interval. If your
car is under 4 years old, then the whole repair should be covered. If
it's over 4 years, you're looking at footing the whole repair bill
yourself. No warranty covers damage due to lack of proper maintenance.

As a side note, I find it odd that your timing belt broke without some
other cause. This is very odd on this engine in this time/mileage period.

hyundaitech

This timing belt is covered for 4 years/60k miles, at which time the belt
needs to be replaced because it's at the replacement interval. If your
car is under 4 years old, then the whole repair should be covered. If
it's over 4 years, you're looking at footing the whole repair bill
yourself. No warranty covers damage due to lack of proper maintenance.

As a side note, I find it odd that your timing belt broke without some
other cause. This is very odd on this engine in this time/mileage period.

hyundaitech

This timing belt is covered for 4 years/60k miles, at which time the belt
needs to be replaced because it's at the replacement interval. If your
car is under 4 years old, then the whole repair should be covered. If
it's over 4 years, you're looking at footing the whole repair bill
yourself. No warranty covers damage due to lack of proper maintenance.

As a side note, I find it odd that your timing belt broke without some
other cause. This is very odd on this engine in this time/mileage period.

Mike Marlow

"bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139606937.142281.252700@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> <<your car should be covered for 60,000 miles by Hyundai without any
> extended warranty>>
>
> The Hyundai website says that belts are only covered for 12k miles. I
> suppose the timing belt is a "belt"?

I believe that refers to the other belts, not the timing belt. The engine
is warrantied for 60,000 and a catastrophic failure internally should be
covered by the warranty. The timing belt is addressed as a separate item,
not included with information regarding the alternator belt, etc.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Mike Marlow

"bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139606937.142281.252700@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> <<your car should be covered for 60,000 miles by Hyundai without any
> extended warranty>>
>
> The Hyundai website says that belts are only covered for 12k miles. I
> suppose the timing belt is a "belt"?

I believe that refers to the other belts, not the timing belt. The engine
is warrantied for 60,000 and a catastrophic failure internally should be
covered by the warranty. The timing belt is addressed as a separate item,
not included with information regarding the alternator belt, etc.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Mike Marlow

"bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139606937.142281.252700@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> <<your car should be covered for 60,000 miles by Hyundai without any
> extended warranty>>
>
> The Hyundai website says that belts are only covered for 12k miles. I
> suppose the timing belt is a "belt"?

I believe that refers to the other belts, not the timing belt. The engine
is warrantied for 60,000 and a catastrophic failure internally should be
covered by the warranty. The timing belt is addressed as a separate item,
not included with information regarding the alternator belt, etc.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Christopher Wong

On 2006-02-10, Guncho <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote:
> joe wrote:
>> Hello I am the second owner of my hyundai accent it has 58k miles and
>> the timing belt broke while driving. I bough the extended warranty. the
>> dealer says there is a $180 charge for inspecting the engine ~$400 for
>> new timing belt and ~$500 for 60k miles maintinace. I told them to do
>> the timing belt change, since they dont warranty that the warranty will
>> cover a broken engine and if that works then to do the 60k maintinance.
>> Any suggestions.
>> thanks.
>
> I just paid $240 Canadian to have the timing belt changed.
>
> $500 US is more than double that.

I just had a timing belt job done for $460 total at a local dealer in MA,
USA. The reason it's that high is that they offered to change the 3
accessory belts in the process. I accepted because they did need changing
and there was no additional labor charge, but the cost of belts added over
$100 to the cost. I phoned a nearby independent mechanic and their price was
similar. So $400 for the timing belt is about right with additional work. On
the other hand, if that $500 for 60K maint is IN ADDITION to the timing belt
job, that would be outrageous.

I would like to reiterate others said, basically that the 5yr/60K warranty
still applies to second owners. A good thing too, because my own used Accent
at 58K needed exhaust pipe work that would have costed $300 without
warranty. Sometimes, dealers need to be coaxed to do work under warranty.

Chris

Christopher Wong

On 2006-02-10, Guncho <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote:
> joe wrote:
>> Hello I am the second owner of my hyundai accent it has 58k miles and
>> the timing belt broke while driving. I bough the extended warranty. the
>> dealer says there is a $180 charge for inspecting the engine ~$400 for
>> new timing belt and ~$500 for 60k miles maintinace. I told them to do
>> the timing belt change, since they dont warranty that the warranty will
>> cover a broken engine and if that works then to do the 60k maintinance.
>> Any suggestions.
>> thanks.
>
> I just paid $240 Canadian to have the timing belt changed.
>
> $500 US is more than double that.

I just had a timing belt job done for $460 total at a local dealer in MA,
USA. The reason it's that high is that they offered to change the 3
accessory belts in the process. I accepted because they did need changing
and there was no additional labor charge, but the cost of belts added over
$100 to the cost. I phoned a nearby independent mechanic and their price was
similar. So $400 for the timing belt is about right with additional work. On
the other hand, if that $500 for 60K maint is IN ADDITION to the timing belt
job, that would be outrageous.

I would like to reiterate others said, basically that the 5yr/60K warranty
still applies to second owners. A good thing too, because my own used Accent
at 58K needed exhaust pipe work that would have costed $300 without
warranty. Sometimes, dealers need to be coaxed to do work under warranty.

Chris

Christopher Wong

On 2006-02-10, Guncho <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote:
> joe wrote:
>> Hello I am the second owner of my hyundai accent it has 58k miles and
>> the timing belt broke while driving. I bough the extended warranty. the
>> dealer says there is a $180 charge for inspecting the engine ~$400 for
>> new timing belt and ~$500 for 60k miles maintinace. I told them to do
>> the timing belt change, since they dont warranty that the warranty will
>> cover a broken engine and if that works then to do the 60k maintinance.
>> Any suggestions.
>> thanks.
>
> I just paid $240 Canadian to have the timing belt changed.
>
> $500 US is more than double that.

I just had a timing belt job done for $460 total at a local dealer in MA,
USA. The reason it's that high is that they offered to change the 3
accessory belts in the process. I accepted because they did need changing
and there was no additional labor charge, but the cost of belts added over
$100 to the cost. I phoned a nearby independent mechanic and their price was
similar. So $400 for the timing belt is about right with additional work. On
the other hand, if that $500 for 60K maint is IN ADDITION to the timing belt
job, that would be outrageous.

I would like to reiterate others said, basically that the 5yr/60K warranty
still applies to second owners. A good thing too, because my own used Accent
at 58K needed exhaust pipe work that would have costed $300 without
warranty. Sometimes, dealers need to be coaxed to do work under warranty.

Chris

Eric G.

Christopher Wong <cwong@world.std.com> wrote in
news:-KqdnZuXXrs4ynDeRVn-tQ@rcn.net:

> On 2006-02-10, Guncho <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> joe wrote:
>>> Hello I am the second owner of my hyundai accent it has 58k miles
>>> and the timing belt broke while driving. I bough the extended
>>> warranty. the dealer says there is a $180 charge for inspecting the
>>> engine ~$400 for new timing belt and ~$500 for 60k miles maintinace.
>>> I told them to do the timing belt change, since they dont warranty
>>> that the warranty will cover a broken engine and if that works then
>>> to do the 60k maintinance. Any suggestions.
>>> thanks.
>>
>> I just paid $240 Canadian to have the timing belt changed.
>>
>> $500 US is more than double that.
>
> I just had a timing belt job done for $460 total at a local dealer in
> MA, USA. The reason it's that high is that they offered to change the
> 3 accessory belts in the process. I accepted because they did need
> changing and there was no additional labor charge, but the cost of
> belts added over $100 to the cost. I phoned a nearby independent
> mechanic and their price was similar. So $400 for the timing belt is
> about right with additional work. On the other hand, if that $500 for
> 60K maint is IN ADDITION to the timing belt job, that would be
> outrageous.
>
> I would like to reiterate others said, basically that the 5yr/60K
> warranty still applies to second owners. A good thing too, because my
> own used Accent at 58K needed exhaust pipe work that would have costed
> $300 without warranty. Sometimes, dealers need to be coaxed to do work
> under warranty.
>
> Chris

IMO, this is just another reason that most Hyundai dealers suck. If the
car is still under warranty, as this one seems to be, why can't they
just be up-front and honest about it? Why does the consumer need to be
the one to throw this in the dealers face?

I've had dealings with Nissan, Honda and even Ford, owning new vehicles
from all of them. I never once had to scream and shout to get a
warranty repair done.

I did have a similar experience with Dodge though, concering a Neon that
blew a head gasket at 35,000 miles. The dealer wanted no less than $800
from me (they had a 3/36 warranty at the time and I was 1 month past the
3 years) for the repair, and they tried to extort half of that from me
in advance!! One call to Dodge directly and they had a team of company
reps at the dealer. I heard one guy threaten to pull the dealers
agreement with Dodge. I certainly wasn't the first to complain about
this dealer, but I think I was the straw. Anyway, got it fixed for a
$50 deductible then I sold the car two days after I got it back :-)

Eric

Eric G.

Christopher Wong <cwong@world.std.com> wrote in
news:-KqdnZuXXrs4ynDeRVn-tQ@rcn.net:

> On 2006-02-10, Guncho <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> joe wrote:
>>> Hello I am the second owner of my hyundai accent it has 58k miles
>>> and the timing belt broke while driving. I bough the extended
>>> warranty. the dealer says there is a $180 charge for inspecting the
>>> engine ~$400 for new timing belt and ~$500 for 60k miles maintinace.
>>> I told them to do the timing belt change, since they dont warranty
>>> that the warranty will cover a broken engine and if that works then
>>> to do the 60k maintinance. Any suggestions.
>>> thanks.
>>
>> I just paid $240 Canadian to have the timing belt changed.
>>
>> $500 US is more than double that.
>
> I just had a timing belt job done for $460 total at a local dealer in
> MA, USA. The reason it's that high is that they offered to change the
> 3 accessory belts in the process. I accepted because they did need
> changing and there was no additional labor charge, but the cost of
> belts added over $100 to the cost. I phoned a nearby independent
> mechanic and their price was similar. So $400 for the timing belt is
> about right with additional work. On the other hand, if that $500 for
> 60K maint is IN ADDITION to the timing belt job, that would be
> outrageous.
>
> I would like to reiterate others said, basically that the 5yr/60K
> warranty still applies to second owners. A good thing too, because my
> own used Accent at 58K needed exhaust pipe work that would have costed
> $300 without warranty. Sometimes, dealers need to be coaxed to do work
> under warranty.
>
> Chris

IMO, this is just another reason that most Hyundai dealers suck. If the
car is still under warranty, as this one seems to be, why can't they
just be up-front and honest about it? Why does the consumer need to be
the one to throw this in the dealers face?

I've had dealings with Nissan, Honda and even Ford, owning new vehicles
from all of them. I never once had to scream and shout to get a
warranty repair done.

I did have a similar experience with Dodge though, concering a Neon that
blew a head gasket at 35,000 miles. The dealer wanted no less than $800
from me (they had a 3/36 warranty at the time and I was 1 month past the
3 years) for the repair, and they tried to extort half of that from me
in advance!! One call to Dodge directly and they had a team of company
reps at the dealer. I heard one guy threaten to pull the dealers
agreement with Dodge. I certainly wasn't the first to complain about
this dealer, but I think I was the straw. Anyway, got it fixed for a
$50 deductible then I sold the car two days after I got it back :-)

Eric