LaidBack Bill

My wife recently crashed out 2003 XG 350L. Fortunately she and our son were
wearing seat belts and walked away without a scratch. The car is close to
being totaled -- it's still being looked at -- and the insurance adjuster as
well as the police were concerned that the airbags did not deploy. Has
anyone else experienced this?

Here's a photo of the car: http://laidbackradio.net/images/XG350L.gif

-Bill

Jim Vatunz

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:32:28 GMT, "LaidBack Bill"
<laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote:

>My wife recently crashed out 2003 XG 350L. Fortunately she and our son were
>wearing seat belts and walked away without a scratch. The car is close to
>being totaled -- it's still being looked at -- and the insurance adjuster as
>well as the police were concerned that the airbags did not deploy. Has
>anyone else experienced this?
>
>Here's a photo of the car: http://laidbackradio.net/images/XG350L.gif
>
>-Bill
>
you say fortunately. don't you have laws to require seat belts be
worn?
it looks like a fairly minor accident and i doubt anybody wearing
seatbelts would be hurt in that type of accident. i'd say it wasn't
hard enough to trigger the air bags, nor should it have.

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screwtape iii

"LaidBack Bill" <laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> My wife recently crashed out 2003 XG 350L. Fortunately she and our son
were
> wearing seat belts and walked away without a scratch. The car is close to
> being totaled -- it's still being looked at -- and the insurance adjuster
as
> well as the police were concerned that the airbags did not deploy. Has
> anyone else experienced this?
>
> Here's a photo of the car: http://laidbackradio.net/images/XG350L.gif
>
> -Bill

Bill,

Any idea what her speed was at the time of impact? My son ran his Accent
into the back of another car 2 weeks ago. The damage was similar to what
yours is. He estimates he was doing 15 mph at the time of impact. The only
reason the car wasn't totaled was the fact the air bags didn't deploy.

James

Very dramatic photo. The lack of working air bags should be reported at
once to the Feds as there may be a recall in order for this serious
situation.

"screwtape iii" <gfy@spamblocked.com> wrote in message
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>
> "LaidBack Bill" <laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:gL0Gb.119667$8y1.372127@attbi_s52...
> > My wife recently crashed out 2003 XG 350L. Fortunately she and our son
> were
> > wearing seat belts and walked away without a scratch. The car is close
to
> > being totaled -- it's still being looked at -- and the insurance
adjuster
> as
> > well as the police were concerned that the airbags did not deploy. Has
> > anyone else experienced this?
> >
> > Here's a photo of the car: http://laidbackradio.net/images/XG350L.gif
> >
> > -Bill
>
> Bill,
>
> Any idea what her speed was at the time of impact? My son ran his Accent
> into the back of another car 2 weeks ago. The damage was similar to what
> yours is. He estimates he was doing 15 mph at the time of impact. The
only
> reason the car wasn't totaled was the fact the air bags didn't deploy.
>
>

Nikoli Yetti

My wife had a head on collision while driving a ford Taurus wagon. The air
bags did not deploy. The car was totaled. My wife suffered neck problems
(whiplash.) A ford f-150 ran a red light, and the collision was 30 mph.

"LaidBack Bill" <laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:gL0Gb.119667$8y1.372127@attbi_s52...
> My wife recently crashed out 2003 XG 350L. Fortunately she and our son
were
> wearing seat belts and walked away without a scratch. The car is close to
> being totaled -- it's still being looked at -- and the insurance adjuster
as
> well as the police were concerned that the airbags did not deploy. Has
> anyone else experienced this?
>
> Here's a photo of the car: http://laidbackradio.net/images/XG350L.gif
>
> -Bill
>
>

James

Ouch! Now I'm getting concerned since my daily driver is a Taurus SHO.
"Nikoli Yetti" <subgenii@bob.com> wrote in message
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> My wife had a head on collision while driving a ford Taurus wagon. The
air
> bags did not deploy. The car was totaled. My wife suffered neck problems
> (whiplash.) A ford f-150 ran a red light, and the collision was 30 mph.
>
> "LaidBack Bill" <laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:gL0Gb.119667$8y1.372127@attbi_s52...
> > My wife recently crashed out 2003 XG 350L. Fortunately she and our son
> were
> > wearing seat belts and walked away without a scratch. The car is close
to
> > being totaled -- it's still being looked at -- and the insurance
adjuster
> as
> > well as the police were concerned that the airbags did not deploy. Has
> > anyone else experienced this?
> >
> > Here's a photo of the car: http://laidbackradio.net/images/XG350L.gif
> >
> > -Bill
> >
> >
>
>

LaidBack Bill

Her speed was between 35 and 40 mph. She rode up on a frozen snow bank
(about 20" high) and into a tree. My guess is that impact speed was between
30 and 35 mph.

"screwtape iii" <gfy@spamblocked.com> wrote in message
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>
> "LaidBack Bill" <laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:gL0Gb.119667$8y1.372127@attbi_s52...
> > My wife recently crashed out 2003 XG 350L. Fortunately she and our son
> were
> > wearing seat belts and walked away without a scratch. The car is close
to
> > being totaled -- it's still being looked at -- and the insurance
adjuster
> as
> > well as the police were concerned that the airbags did not deploy. Has
> > anyone else experienced this?
> >
> > Here's a photo of the car: http://laidbackradio.net/images/XG350L.gif
> >
> > -Bill
>
> Bill,
>
> Any idea what her speed was at the time of impact? My son ran his Accent
> into the back of another car 2 weeks ago. The damage was similar to what
> yours is. He estimates he was doing 15 mph at the time of impact. The
only
> reason the car wasn't totaled was the fact the air bags didn't deploy.
>
>

LaidBack Bill

The law in Massachusetts requires seatbelts to be worn, but Massachusetts
law also required drivers to drive at or below the posted speed...not
something you see happen very often! My family has gotten into the habit of
buckling up every time we get into a car. I say fortunately because like
all "habits" there could be a time when you do the opposite.

As a family we buckled up long before the law required us to do so. Like
the saying goes, accidents usually happen within a few miles of your house.
The trip my son and wife were on was less than 5 miles -- about 7 minutes
tops. We make that trip at least 10 times per week. I know myself that
I've arrived home, reached down to unfasten my belt and realized that I had
forgot to buckle it -- it happens. I usually realize it myself within a few
minutes and quickly buckle it...

Her speed at impact was probably between 30 and 35 MHP. Given the location
of the impact and the speed I would think the airbags would have deployed.
In fact the insurance company has ordered a diagnosis and I have made a
formal report to Hyundai.

-Bill

"Jim Vatunz" <rot13.snezrewvz@vvarg.arg.nh> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:32:28 GMT, "LaidBack Bill"
> <laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>
> >My wife recently crashed out 2003 XG 350L. Fortunately she and our son
were
> >wearing seat belts and walked away without a scratch. The car is close
to
> >being totaled -- it's still being looked at -- and the insurance adjuster
as
> >well as the police were concerned that the airbags did not deploy. Has
> >anyone else experienced this?
> >
> >Here's a photo of the car: http://laidbackradio.net/images/XG350L.gif
> >
> >-Bill
> >
> you say fortunately. don't you have laws to require seat belts be
> worn?
> it looks like a fairly minor accident and i doubt anybody wearing
> seatbelts would be hurt in that type of accident. i'd say it wasn't
> hard enough to trigger the air bags, nor should it have.
>
> For the latest weather where i am click
> http://ii.net/~farmerjim/

screwtape iii

"LaidBack Bill" <laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> Her speed was between 35 and 40 mph. She rode up on a frozen snow bank
> (about 20" high) and into a tree. My guess is that impact speed was
between
> 30 and 35 mph.
>
> "screwtape iii" <gfy@spamblocked.com> wrote in message
> news:C64Gb.68263$Dt6.1719576@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
> >
> > "LaidBack Bill" <laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:gL0Gb.119667$8y1.372127@attbi_s52...
> > > My wife recently crashed out 2003 XG 350L. Fortunately she and our
son
> > > were wearing seat belts and walked away without a scratch. The car is
close
> > > to being totaled -- it's still being looked at -- and the insurance
adjuster as
> > > well as the police were concerned that the airbags did not deploy.
Has
> > > anyone else experienced this?
> > >
> > > Here's a photo of the car: http://laidbackradio.net/images/XG350L.gif
> > >
> > > -Bill
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > Any idea what her speed was at the time of impact? My son ran his
Accent
> > into the back of another car 2 weeks ago. The damage was similar to
what
> > yours is. He estimates he was doing 15 mph at the time of impact. The
> > only reason the car wasn't totaled was the fact the air bags didn't
deploy.
> >

Humm. She probably had all 4 wheels locked and the computer thought she was
stopped. If she'd impacted the tree even at 30 mph there'd be some
intrusion into the passenger compartment by the engine or frame. I suspect
she was going much slower at the actual moment of impact.

The car did it's job - your wife and child are safe. Time to total it and
get another vehicle.

Art

I read somewhere that Airbags only deploy in crashes above 32 MPH or
cause damage to the sensors at the front of the vehicle. I think
this was in the documentation for my 98 ranger. I will see if I can
find it.

Jim Vatunz

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:51:30 GMT, "LaidBack Bill"
<laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote:

>The law in Massachusetts requires seatbelts to be worn, but Massachusetts
>law also required drivers to drive at or below the posted speed...not
>something you see happen very often! My family has gotten into the habit of
>buckling up every time we get into a car. I say fortunately because like
>all "habits" there could be a time when you do the opposite.
>
>As a family we buckled up long before the law required us to do so. Like
>the saying goes, accidents usually happen within a few miles of your house.
>The trip my son and wife were on was less than 5 miles -- about 7 minutes
>tops. We make that trip at least 10 times per week. I know myself that
>I've arrived home, reached down to unfasten my belt and realized that I had
>forgot to buckle it -- it happens. I usually realize it myself within a few
>minutes and quickly buckle it...
>
>Her speed at impact was probably between 30 and 35 MHP. Given the location
>of the impact and the speed I would think the airbags would have deployed.
>In fact the insurance company has ordered a diagnosis and I have made a
>formal report to Hyundai.
>
>-Bill
>
i'm glad you have the family in the habit of wearing them. the thought
of being fined should make it 2nd nature for everybody.
maybe your car has a european air bag sensor in it? the europeans have
their air bags set to trigger at a far more sensible speed than the
USA and unfortunately the Australian standard. with universal seat
belt usage there's no need for them to trigger at low speeds.

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screwtape iii

"Art" <afob3@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I read somewhere that Airbags only deploy in crashes above 32 MPH or
> cause damage to the sensors at the front of the vehicle. I think
> this was in the documentation for my 98 ranger. I will see if I can
> find it.

Air bags are something you really don't want going off in your face unless
the alternative is injury or death.

theta00k@yahoo.com

In article <6CiGb.468763$275.1364953@attbi_s53>, "LaidBack Bill" <laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>The law in Massachusetts requires seatbelts to be worn, but Massachusetts
>law also required drivers to drive at or below the posted speed...not
>something you see happen very often! My family has gotten into the habit of
>buckling up every time we get into a car. I say fortunately because like
>all "habits" there could be a time when you do the opposite.
>
>As a family we buckled up long before the law required us to do so. Like
>the saying goes, accidents usually happen within a few miles of your house.
>The trip my son and wife were on was less than 5 miles -- about 7 minutes
>tops. We make that trip at least 10 times per week. I know myself that
>I've arrived home, reached down to unfasten my belt and realized that I had
>forgot to buckle it -- it happens. I usually realize it myself within a few
>minutes and quickly buckle it...
>
>Her speed at impact was probably between 30 and 35 MHP. Given the location
>of the impact and the speed I would think the airbags would have deployed.
>In fact the insurance company has ordered a diagnosis and I have made a
>formal report to Hyundai.

I know many literatures including owner's manuals say that the air bags go off
when the car moving over a certain speed is impacted, but that's just not
true. The decision to deploy the frontal air bags is not based on the absolute
speed of the moving vehicle; it's the acceleration/deceleration rate that the
air bag computer constantly monitors to determine whether the deceleration
rate crosses the programmed threshold.
If the bags didn't go off and your wife and kid is now on a life support
system, then I'd say it warrants an investigation, but in your case, I don't
understand what your insurance company's concern is, regarding the
nondeployment.

>"Jim Vatunz" <rot13.snezrewvz@vvarg.arg.nh> wrote in message
>news:cu8huvg855mk9he0ugjjc5dl1ehe1r7u40@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:32:28 GMT, "LaidBack Bill"
>> <laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>>
>> >My wife recently crashed out 2003 XG 350L. Fortunately she and our son
>were
>> >wearing seat belts and walked away without a scratch. The car is close
>to
>> >being totaled -- it's still being looked at -- and the insurance adjuster
>as
>> >well as the police were concerned that the airbags did not deploy. Has
>> >anyone else experienced this?
>> >
>> >Here's a photo of the car: http://laidbackradio.net/images/XG350L.gif

XGman

It looks like about $7200 in repairs, I doubt they will total it
(although I can't see the rear and I see the trunk is open). The air
bags on most cars require TWO sensors to be injured to set off the
bag(s). It looks like maybe one sensor got hit, but the passenger side
is still ok so that may be the reason.
Lets thank God that the XG350 can keep your family safe. That is why I
bought it (for weight!). If the bags DID go off, both would most likly
have a "scrach" or bruise.
By the way, this is the only problem with Hyundai's is that insurance
may be quicker to total than lets say an Infinity because the cost to
repair is so close to the cost to replace.
This is only a problem for the new car owner, after 4 years its a
wash.

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:25:53 +1000, Jim Vatunz
<rot13.snezrewvz@vvarg.arg.nh> wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:32:28 GMT, "LaidBack Bill"
><laidbackbill@laidbackradioNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>
>>My wife recently crashed out 2003 XG 350L. Fortunately she and our son were
>>wearing seat belts and walked away without a scratch. The car is close to
>>being totaled -- it's still being looked at -- and the insurance adjuster as
>>well as the police were concerned that the airbags did not deploy. Has
>>anyone else experienced this?
>>
>>Here's a photo of the car: http://laidbackradio.net/images/XG350L.gif
>>
>>-Bill
>>
>you say fortunately. don't you have laws to require seat belts be
>worn?
>it looks like a fairly minor accident and i doubt anybody wearing
>seatbelts would be hurt in that type of accident. i'd say it wasn't
>hard enough to trigger the air bags, nor should it have.
>
>For the latest weather where i am click
>http://ii.net/~farmerjim/

Jason

Most definitely. When my mom was in an accident in her 2001 XG300 the
passenger-side air bag broke her right arm, wrist, and two fingers.
It's better than getting killed but I can't help but thinking that if
the thing hadn't gone off she would have been fine. Oh, and they
totalled the car, she bought a 2002 XG350.

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:59:24 GMT, "screwtape iii"
<gfy@spamblocked.com> wrote:

>"Art" <afob3@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:d45034cc.0312241119.2a4bcb72@posting.google. com...
>> I read somewhere that Airbags only deploy in crashes above 32 MPH or
>> cause damage to the sensors at the front of the vehicle. I think
>> this was in the documentation for my 98 ranger. I will see if I can
>> find it.
>
>Air bags are something you really don't want going off in your face unless
>the alternative is injury or death.
>
>