On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 02:01:12 GMT, "The Steven" <me@here.com> wrote:

>> Really 40psi on the tires?? That seems kind of high. I've been
>> keeping mine at 30 as it suggested on the sticker on the insider
>> driver side door. What made you up yours to 40?
>
>On the sidewall of the tire it says it will support upto 45lbs, so the ride
>will be a bit firmer, and second it will lower the rolling resistance so the
>mpg will be higher. So far it works.

Yes, I notcied that on the tire too. I recall reading somewhere
though that you need to consider the type of car using the tires. It
mentioned that if you don't inflate the tires to the proper level
based on the model (i.e. weight) of the car, they may not wear as well
and actually need replaced sooner.

Not really sure which method's better, just passing along info.

 

does anyone know under what conditions the passenger airbag on the 2004
elantra gt hatchback is supposed to be activated? the dealership told me
that it is disabled 85 pounds and under (for child protection), but when my
girlfriend (who weighs 120 pounds) rides with me, the yellow sensor light
above the stereo comes on saying that it is disabled (or not activated). a
couple of days after this happens, the red "air bag" sensor light on the
driver side control panel comes on. i've taken it to the dealership twice,
they replaced a clock spring, but the yellow light still comes on
intermittently. i understand if it's under 25 mph or something like that,
but it seems to go on and off at random times. any help would be much
appreciated - thanks.


"The Steven" <me@here.com> wrote in message
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> Dealerspeak:
> >According to a local dealer in Northern VA, ABS isn't
> > available on the GT on the east coast yet.....
>
> Translates to:
> I don't have one on the lot, but I don't want you to leave without buying
> something from me today.
>
> Rule #1. S.W.A.T. Sell what's available today.
>
> Most dealers order what the company forecasts they'll sell the most of and
> that has the highest sales margin. And if they don't have what you want,
> they will try to convince you that what you want isn't really what you
want.
>
>
> --
>
> S.
>
> Don't fight with Idiots.
> They will overwhelm you with their numbers and beat you with their
> experience.
>
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> Aside from how the car, in general, will hold up (which I guess I worry
> about with every car I've bought), that (the paint/finish) is one of
> things I'm wondering about, long-term. I saw a number of posts about
> paint problems when I was researching the Hyundai purchase, but I'm
> hoping that if we take a bit more care than normal, that we won't
> encounter them (preventive maintenance)!

As to paint, take a look at the bottom of your doors. It might be thin
there, I saw that alot on the Excel's and still do on the Elantra's.

If you complain at the time of purchase, they should fix it.


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> Yes, I notcied that on the tire too. I recall reading somewhere
> though that you need to consider the type of car using the tires. It
> mentioned that if you don't inflate the tires to the proper level
> based on the model (i.e. weight) of the car, they may not wear as well
> and actually need replaced sooner.

Well I rotate them regularly, and I've seen no unusual wear patterns. And if
I save $.50 per tank full on gas (petrol) I'll fell ok about adding it up
for new tires every 20k miles

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> does anyone know under what conditions the passenger airbag on the 2004
> elantra gt hatchback is supposed to be activated? the dealership told me
> that it is disabled 85 pounds and under (for child protection), but when
my
> girlfriend (who weighs 120 pounds) rides with me, the yellow sensor light
> above the stereo comes on saying that it is disabled (or not activated).
a
> couple of days after this happens, the red "air bag" sensor light on the
> driver side control panel comes on.

As memory serves, we have "second generation" or "de-powered airbags". And
that under a specific weight, it (if needed) would activate (detonate) at a
lower power level.

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"Neil" <NOSPAMnbrad@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
<snip>
> I was really impressed with the GT, and will most likely buy the 5-door
> hatch.
<snip>
> Neil.
>

I bought the GT yesterday. Silver, 5-door hatch w/ moon roof. I'll report
my findings as time goes on, but right now completely happy with the car and
the deal I got. :-)

Neil.

 

> I bought the GT yesterday. Silver, 5-door hatch w/ moon roof. I'll
report
> my findings as time goes on, but right now completely happy with the car
and
> the deal I got. :-)

Here's to many happy miles!
Keep the shiny side up and the dirty side down.

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Unhappy with mileage?? Jion the club same here average 20mpg .. 20% below
sticker
"Gnekker" <gnekker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Is it typical that this car will have lower gas mileage when it's new?
> >
> This is normal, your mileage will creep up slowly for the first 2-3
thousand
> miles.
>
>

 

WE're lucky to get 20/21 city
"Ohaya" <ohaya@NO_SPAM_cox.net> wrote in message
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> Neil,
>
> Comments below...
>
>
> > Sorry I can't answer your question, but I am interested in knowing more
> > about the Auto GT myself. Did you get it with the option pack 8 that
> > includes ABS? According to a local dealer in Northern VA, ABS isn't
> > available on the GT on the east coast yet.....
>
> It's an '04 Elantra GT hatchback. We didn't get ABS. Everything else
> that we got is pretty well standard in the GT (leather, air cond.,
> cruise, tilt, remote keyentry and alarm, etc.).
>
> Actually, this is kind of bad, I know, but my original intent was to get
> the most basic automatic Elantra, the GLS, for my wife, and we had test
> driven one of them at the dealer, but I wanted cruise control, and they
> didn't have any GLS' with cruise in stock. Plus, the only automatics
> they had were in black or a kind of light metallic green .
>
>
> > Also how do you find the performance of the car with the automatic?
> > Unfortunately manual isn't an option for me as one of the drivers has to
> > have auto. Ideally I'm trying to find performance figures such as
30-50,
> > 50-70 times, as the car would see a lot of interstate miles and it needs
to
> > have some pep when overtaking.
>
> As I mentioned above, we were just looking for a basic transportation
> car, so performance wasn't a major thing we were looking for, but I'll
> say that I have since driven it on I66, 495 (Beltway, from NVa towards
> Bethesda), and the Dulles Toll Road, with 3 adults male passengers, and
> passing at highway speeds hasn't been a problem.
>
> BTW, it may be just me, but having driven both the GLS and the GT, the
> GT's suspension seems a bit stiffer, which I liked. Overall, the GT
> seemed much "tighter" than the GLS.
>
>
> > What's the interior quality like, particularly the leather? Did you get
the
> > Kenwood mp3 compatible CD player and how is it?
>
> I'm definitely not a "leather" expert either , but I think it looks
> pretty good.
>
> My daughter loves the car, and has been trying to convince me to trade
> cars with her (she has a 2003 Honda Accord LX ) since we bought it.
> The steering wheel has a leather covering on it also, which is very
> smooth. At first I thought it was TOO smooth, but now that I've driven
> the car a bit, it's fine.
>
> Beyond that, I think the interior is roomy. I kept bumping my head on
> my daughter's Accord's roof when driving it, but the Elantra seems to
> have better headroom. The bucket seats are MUCH more comfortable than
> the Accord's (which feel like you're sitting on a bench).
>
> The only thing that I've been disappointed about with the interior is
> that the Elantra manual indicates that there's a center armrest, with
> cupholders in it in the rear seat, but that seems to be incorrect (no
> center armrest, no rear cupholders).
>
> Yes, it came with the Kenwood CD player, which impressed my daughter AND
> my son. It works fine, but I've been mainly using it to listen to FM
> radio. My daughter has played some of her MP3 CDs which she burned, and
> they worked fine. The only thing that I found strange is that this CD
> player is not described in the Elantra manual, but I think I found a PDF
> manual for it on Kenwood's website. It has a drop-down, replaceable
> faceplate, and a remote.

 

Hi,

I thought I'd post back to an old thread.

The MPG on our Elantra GT (now at 500+ miles) has been slowly creeping up.
It stayed at 23.1 for awhile, and just in the last 2 days, has crept up to
23.2 . A kind of 50/50 mix between city and highway driving.

Hopefully, this'll continue for awhile...


"news group" <jmucha@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> WE're lucky to get 20/21 city
> "Ohaya" <ohaya@NO_SPAM_cox.net> wrote in message
> news:40086E2F.B034FA79@NO_SPAM_cox.net...
> > Neil,
> >
> > Comments below...
> >
> >
> > > Sorry I can't answer your question, but I am interested in knowing
more
> > > about the Auto GT myself. Did you get it with the option pack 8 that
> > > includes ABS? According to a local dealer in Northern VA, ABS isn't
> > > available on the GT on the east coast yet.....
> >
> > It's an '04 Elantra GT hatchback. We didn't get ABS. Everything else
> > that we got is pretty well standard in the GT (leather, air cond.,
> > cruise, tilt, remote keyentry and alarm, etc.).
> >
> > Actually, this is kind of bad, I know, but my original intent was to get
> > the most basic automatic Elantra, the GLS, for my wife, and we had test
> > driven one of them at the dealer, but I wanted cruise control, and they
> > didn't have any GLS' with cruise in stock. Plus, the only automatics
> > they had were in black or a kind of light metallic green .
> >
> >
> > > Also how do you find the performance of the car with the automatic?
> > > Unfortunately manual isn't an option for me as one of the drivers has
to
> > > have auto. Ideally I'm trying to find performance figures such as
> 30-50,
> > > 50-70 times, as the car would see a lot of interstate miles and it
needs
> to
> > > have some pep when overtaking.
> >
> > As I mentioned above, we were just looking for a basic transportation
> > car, so performance wasn't a major thing we were looking for, but I'll
> > say that I have since driven it on I66, 495 (Beltway, from NVa towards
> > Bethesda), and the Dulles Toll Road, with 3 adults male passengers, and
> > passing at highway speeds hasn't been a problem.
> >
> > BTW, it may be just me, but having driven both the GLS and the GT, the
> > GT's suspension seems a bit stiffer, which I liked. Overall, the GT
> > seemed much "tighter" than the GLS.
> >
> >
> > > What's the interior quality like, particularly the leather? Did you
get
> the
> > > Kenwood mp3 compatible CD player and how is it?
> >
> > I'm definitely not a "leather" expert either , but I think it looks
> > pretty good.
> >
> > My daughter loves the car, and has been trying to convince me to trade
> > cars with her (she has a 2003 Honda Accord LX ) since we bought it.
> > The steering wheel has a leather covering on it also, which is very
> > smooth. At first I thought it was TOO smooth, but now that I've driven
> > the car a bit, it's fine.
> >
> > Beyond that, I think the interior is roomy. I kept bumping my head on
> > my daughter's Accord's roof when driving it, but the Elantra seems to
> > have better headroom. The bucket seats are MUCH more comfortable than
> > the Accord's (which feel like you're sitting on a bench).
> >
> > The only thing that I've been disappointed about with the interior is
> > that the Elantra manual indicates that there's a center armrest, with
> > cupholders in it in the rear seat, but that seems to be incorrect (no
> > center armrest, no rear cupholders).
> >
> > Yes, it came with the Kenwood CD player, which impressed my daughter AND
> > my son. It works fine, but I've been mainly using it to listen to FM
> > radio. My daughter has played some of her MP3 CDs which she burned, and
> > they worked fine. The only thing that I found strange is that this CD
> > player is not described in the Elantra manual, but I think I found a PDF
> > manual for it on Kenwood's website. It has a drop-down, replaceable
> > faceplate, and a remote.
>
>

 

I know exactly what your talking about, my wife and I have the same issue on our GLS 4-dr -- 2004 model purchased Oct. 2003. We noticed the issue when we were looking at the elantras, and it happened on all of the '04 models we tested. Of course, we thought our car's light could be 'fixed' after we took delivery. Well, here it is almost 4 months later that the passenger airbag occupancy sensor light is still malfunctioning. My wife weighs 120 as well. Our Hyundai dealer was sent some airbag "fix" kit from Hyundai to make our light work as it should; and 4 weeks ago in January; and at the time, that "fix did the trick. But, in the last week and a half, their "fix" is to no avail as the light is randomly going on and off again. Two days ago, I took the car to the dealer (again) to tell them the news, and they in turn were going to call Hyundai Engineering, then call me back. Well, no call yet, and I suspect not anytime soon. Are they stumped? Well, I'd say not exactly, as this problem is very much the same as a recall for 75 2003 Elantras sold to Enterprise Rent-a-Car. Do a search on the web for an Elantra Airbag Recall and you'll find it, which was back in August. One website had the description of the problem, which is the same that you and I are having. Just today, I also found the exact same complaint in an Edmunds.com Elantra review posted this January. This is more than an isolated case here and there, I'm guessing. So, when is Hyundai going to opt for a recall or TSB for a fix? My guess is not until they have enough complaints about this, and until they can figure out what to do. This is a safety issue in my mind, and back in December I called Hyundai in Fountain Valley, CA, and told them about it. They contacted their Southeastern Regional Service Advisor who also contacted me, who said they were looking into it and working on a solution for our vehicle. Bottom line, it's not resloved yet, the owner's manual about 56.4 pounds cutt-off limit is incorrect for the seat sensor. Unlike you where you had the car switched out, we had a seat switched out, which didn't work either. And as well, my wife and I drove 4 other elantras from the dealer, even with the service mgr in the car, and the problem replicated itself in all 4 instances. We love this car otherwise, but this airbag sensor light is beginning to change my opinion about this car!

 

In article <69196941809d7ae9640749a5b8fbd2ae@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "access dude" <rmckee@venture-encoding.com> wrote:
>I know exactly what your talking about, my wife and I have the same issue on
> our GLS 4-dr -- 2004 model purchased Oct. 2003. We noticed the issue when we
> were looking at the elantras, and it happened on all of the '04 models we
> tested. Of course, we thought our car's light could be 'fixed' after we took
> delivery. Well, here it is almost 4 months later that the passenger airbag
> occupancy sensor light is still malfunctioning. My wife weighs 120 as well.
> Our Hyundai dealer was sent some airbag "fix" kit from Hyundai to make our

Wha is this kit?? Could you please look up the copy the repair order and tell
me the part number?

> light work as it should; and 4 weeks ago in January; and at the time, that
> "fix did the trick. But, in the last week and a half, their "fix" is to no
> avail as the light is randomly going on and off again. Two days ago, I took
> the car to the dealer (again) to tell them the news, and they in turn were
> going to call Hyundai Engineering, then call me back. Well, no call yet, and
> I suspect not anytime soon. Are they stumped? Well, I'd say not exactly, as
> this problem is very much the same as a recall for 75 2003 Elantras sold to
> Enterprise Rent-a-Car. Do a search on the web for an Elantra Airbag Recall
> and you'll find it, which was back in August. One website had the description
> of the problem, which is the same that you and I are having. Just today, I
> also found the exact same complaint in an Edmunds.com Elantra review posted
> this January. This is more than an isolated case here and there, I'm
> guessing. So, when is Hyundai going to opt for a recall or TSB for a fix? My
> guess is not until they have enough complaints about this, and until they can
> figure out what to do. This is a safety issue in my mind, and back in
> December I called Hyundai in Fountain Valley, CA, and told them about it.
> They contacted their Southeastern Regional Service Advisor who also contacted
> me, who said they were looking into it and working on a solution for our
> vehicle. Bottom line, it's not resloved yet, the owner's manual about 56.4
> pounds cutt-off limit is incorrect for the seat sensor. Unlike you where you
> had the car switched out, we had a seat switched out, which didn't work
> either. And as well, my wife and I drove 4 other elantras from the dealer,
> even with the service mgr in the car, and the problem replicated itself in all
> 4 instances. We love this car otherwise, but this airbag sensor light is
> beginning to change my opinion about this car!
>
>