Matt Whiting wrote:
> Question for the OP, did you ever smell anything. I warmed up my Sonata
> clutch a little getting it up on the ramps to change the oil (1st gear
> is just too tall), and it stunk pretty good. To wear out a clutch in
> 4,000 miles I'd think you'd have to slip it so much that you couldn't
> help but raise quite a stink.

Never noticed any funny smells driving the car (at least not that could
be blamed on the car - we do have small children though...)

 

erik.craiglist@gmail.com wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>>Question for the OP, did you ever smell anything. I warmed up my Sonata
>>clutch a little getting it up on the ramps to change the oil (1st gear
>>is just too tall), and it stunk pretty good. To wear out a clutch in
>>4,000 miles I'd think you'd have to slip it so much that you couldn't
>>help but raise quite a stink.
>
>
> Never noticed any funny smells driving the car (at least not that could
> be blamed on the car - we do have small children though...)
>

Hard for me to imagine that a clutch could completely wear/burn away the
lining material in 4K miles and not make some sort of unusual smell.
This is a weird one.


Matt

 

erik.craiglist@gmail.com wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>>Question for the OP, did you ever smell anything. I warmed up my Sonata
>>clutch a little getting it up on the ramps to change the oil (1st gear
>>is just too tall), and it stunk pretty good. To wear out a clutch in
>>4,000 miles I'd think you'd have to slip it so much that you couldn't
>>help but raise quite a stink.
>
>
> Never noticed any funny smells driving the car (at least not that could
> be blamed on the car - we do have small children though...)
>

Hard for me to imagine that a clutch could completely wear/burn away the
lining material in 4K miles and not make some sort of unusual smell.
This is a weird one.


Matt

 

erik.craiglist@gmail.com wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>>Question for the OP, did you ever smell anything. I warmed up my Sonata
>>clutch a little getting it up on the ramps to change the oil (1st gear
>>is just too tall), and it stunk pretty good. To wear out a clutch in
>>4,000 miles I'd think you'd have to slip it so much that you couldn't
>>help but raise quite a stink.
>
>
> Never noticed any funny smells driving the car (at least not that could
> be blamed on the car - we do have small children though...)
>

Hard for me to imagine that a clutch could completely wear/burn away the
lining material in 4K miles and not make some sort of unusual smell.
This is a weird one.


Matt

 

> Hard for me to imagine that a clutch could completely wear/burn away the
> lining material in 4K miles and not make some sort of unusual smell.
> This is a weird one.

My other question is how can it totally wear out (whatever the cause)
and not slip prior to total failure? Is there something about the
clutch design on these that keeps it from slipping prior to full
failure?

In my prior experience (older cars) when a clutch does go it's been
very obvious well before total failure - I've actually never had full
failure of a clutch as I've been able to drive it to the mechanic to
get it fixed because I could feel it slipping well before full failure.

Have clutch designs changed in the last 10 years such that this is no
longer the case?

 

> Hard for me to imagine that a clutch could completely wear/burn away the
> lining material in 4K miles and not make some sort of unusual smell.
> This is a weird one.

My other question is how can it totally wear out (whatever the cause)
and not slip prior to total failure? Is there something about the
clutch design on these that keeps it from slipping prior to full
failure?

In my prior experience (older cars) when a clutch does go it's been
very obvious well before total failure - I've actually never had full
failure of a clutch as I've been able to drive it to the mechanic to
get it fixed because I could feel it slipping well before full failure.

Have clutch designs changed in the last 10 years such that this is no
longer the case?

 

> Hard for me to imagine that a clutch could completely wear/burn away the
> lining material in 4K miles and not make some sort of unusual smell.
> This is a weird one.

My other question is how can it totally wear out (whatever the cause)
and not slip prior to total failure? Is there something about the
clutch design on these that keeps it from slipping prior to full
failure?

In my prior experience (older cars) when a clutch does go it's been
very obvious well before total failure - I've actually never had full
failure of a clutch as I've been able to drive it to the mechanic to
get it fixed because I could feel it slipping well before full failure.

Have clutch designs changed in the last 10 years such that this is no
longer the case?

 

erik.craiglist@gmail.com wrote:

>
>>Hard for me to imagine that a clutch could completely wear/burn away the
>>lining material in 4K miles and not make some sort of unusual smell.
>>This is a weird one.
>
>
> My other question is how can it totally wear out (whatever the cause)
> and not slip prior to total failure? Is there something about the
> clutch design on these that keeps it from slipping prior to full
> failure?
>
> In my prior experience (older cars) when a clutch does go it's been
> very obvious well before total failure - I've actually never had full
> failure of a clutch as I've been able to drive it to the mechanic to
> get it fixed because I could feel it slipping well before full failure.
>
> Have clutch designs changed in the last 10 years such that this is no
> longer the case?
>

Not to my knowledge. I don't see how this could happen either without
some other concurrent failure of the throw-out bearing, slave cylinder
or master cylinder (assuming you have a hydraulic clutch).


Matt

 

erik.craiglist@gmail.com wrote:

>
>>Hard for me to imagine that a clutch could completely wear/burn away the
>>lining material in 4K miles and not make some sort of unusual smell.
>>This is a weird one.
>
>
> My other question is how can it totally wear out (whatever the cause)
> and not slip prior to total failure? Is there something about the
> clutch design on these that keeps it from slipping prior to full
> failure?
>
> In my prior experience (older cars) when a clutch does go it's been
> very obvious well before total failure - I've actually never had full
> failure of a clutch as I've been able to drive it to the mechanic to
> get it fixed because I could feel it slipping well before full failure.
>
> Have clutch designs changed in the last 10 years such that this is no
> longer the case?
>

Not to my knowledge. I don't see how this could happen either without
some other concurrent failure of the throw-out bearing, slave cylinder
or master cylinder (assuming you have a hydraulic clutch).


Matt

 

erik.craiglist@gmail.com wrote:

>
>>Hard for me to imagine that a clutch could completely wear/burn away the
>>lining material in 4K miles and not make some sort of unusual smell.
>>This is a weird one.
>
>
> My other question is how can it totally wear out (whatever the cause)
> and not slip prior to total failure? Is there something about the
> clutch design on these that keeps it from slipping prior to full
> failure?
>
> In my prior experience (older cars) when a clutch does go it's been
> very obvious well before total failure - I've actually never had full
> failure of a clutch as I've been able to drive it to the mechanic to
> get it fixed because I could feel it slipping well before full failure.
>
> Have clutch designs changed in the last 10 years such that this is no
> longer the case?
>

Not to my knowledge. I don't see how this could happen either without
some other concurrent failure of the throw-out bearing, slave cylinder
or master cylinder (assuming you have a hydraulic clutch).


Matt

 

I've seen it done on a brand new (not even sold yet) car (but not a
Hyundai). We picked it up from another dealer, and on the test drive
prior to delivery, the customer noticed the slipping.

 

I've seen it done on a brand new (not even sold yet) car (but not a
Hyundai). We picked it up from another dealer, and on the test drive
prior to delivery, the customer noticed the slipping.

 

I've seen it done on a brand new (not even sold yet) car (but not a
Hyundai). We picked it up from another dealer, and on the test drive
prior to delivery, the customer noticed the slipping.

 

On 9 Jun 2006 12:35:08 -0700, erik.craiglist@gmail.com wrote:

>never had this problem before (I've had three manual transmisisons
>before, last clutch lasted 185k miles before replacement in my old car
>if that says anything) so I think I know how to drive a stick shift.

Weird problem. Never heard of that before. Your statement above just about
boils it down to some type of failure.

Perhaps the hydraulics sprung a leak, bringing the clutch pressure down very
low causing slippage. Unless it happened on 1 long run without using the
clutch, you would have noticed it. Even then, you should have noticed the
engine revving higher than normal. What a strange problem!
--
Bob

 

On 9 Jun 2006 12:35:08 -0700, erik.craiglist@gmail.com wrote:

>never had this problem before (I've had three manual transmisisons
>before, last clutch lasted 185k miles before replacement in my old car
>if that says anything) so I think I know how to drive a stick shift.

Weird problem. Never heard of that before. Your statement above just about
boils it down to some type of failure.

Perhaps the hydraulics sprung a leak, bringing the clutch pressure down very
low causing slippage. Unless it happened on 1 long run without using the
clutch, you would have noticed it. Even then, you should have noticed the
engine revving higher than normal. What a strange problem!
--
Bob