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2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac
see : http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. |
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Deck wrote:
> 3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac > see : > http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 > > Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the > first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the > Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and > top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new > Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car at trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the horror! :-)) People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality from Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition is good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that usually will give more car for their dollar. A.C. (Contact me? Put underscores between the words.) |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Deck wrote:
> 3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac > see : > http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 > > Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the > first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the > Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and > top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new > Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car at trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the horror! :-)) People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality from Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition is good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that usually will give more car for their dollar. A.C. (Contact me? Put underscores between the words.) |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Deck wrote:
> 3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac > see : > http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 > > Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the > first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the > Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and > top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new > Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car at trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the horror! :-)) People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality from Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition is good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that usually will give more car for their dollar. A.C. (Contact me? Put underscores between the words.) |
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A.C. wrote:
> Deck wrote: > > >>3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac >>see : >>http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 >> >>Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the >>first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the >>Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and >>top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new >>Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. > > > This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car at > trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the > Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the > horror! :-)) > > People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality from > Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that > either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition is > good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that > usually will give more car for their dollar. While I've been quite pleased with the assembly quality of my Sonata, it certainly isn't in the same league yet as Toyota. However, I think Hyundai's bribes are much better than Toyota's. I suspect Hyundai will be a match for Toyota in a few more years, but I don't believe this survey is accurate today. I think Hyundai is intentionally skewing the numbers, but this is nothing new for Koreans. Their sense of ethics isn't the same as ours or Japan's. That is well known. Matt |
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A.C. wrote:
> Deck wrote: > > >>3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac >>see : >>http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 >> >>Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the >>first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the >>Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and >>top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new >>Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. > > > This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car at > trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the > Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the > horror! :-)) > > People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality from > Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that > either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition is > good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that > usually will give more car for their dollar. While I've been quite pleased with the assembly quality of my Sonata, it certainly isn't in the same league yet as Toyota. However, I think Hyundai's bribes are much better than Toyota's. I suspect Hyundai will be a match for Toyota in a few more years, but I don't believe this survey is accurate today. I think Hyundai is intentionally skewing the numbers, but this is nothing new for Koreans. Their sense of ethics isn't the same as ours or Japan's. That is well known. Matt |
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A.C. wrote:
> Deck wrote: > > >>3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac >>see : >>http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 >> >>Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the >>first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the >>Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and >>top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new >>Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. > > > This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car at > trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the > Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the > horror! :-)) > > People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality from > Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that > either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition is > good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that > usually will give more car for their dollar. While I've been quite pleased with the assembly quality of my Sonata, it certainly isn't in the same league yet as Toyota. However, I think Hyundai's bribes are much better than Toyota's. I suspect Hyundai will be a match for Toyota in a few more years, but I don't believe this survey is accurate today. I think Hyundai is intentionally skewing the numbers, but this is nothing new for Koreans. Their sense of ethics isn't the same as ours or Japan's. That is well known. Matt |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
can you tell us how you can pronounce these truths ? .........seems to me
the japanese have been far from ethically superior.(rape of Nanking, Korean comfort girls come to mind) Autowise, how is the sonata leagues inferior to, say, a camry? I will say time will tell, and initial quality isn't everything......ps, I like to top post, and am going to stop apologizing for it! "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message news:c7Gjg.9630$lb.856011@news1.epix.net... > A.C. wrote: > >> Deck wrote: >> >> >>>3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac >>>see : >>>http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 >>> >>>Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the >>>first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for >>>the >>>Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and >>>top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new >>>Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. >> >> >> This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car >> at >> trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the >> Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the >> horror! :-)) >> >> People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality >> from >> Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that >> either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition >> is >> good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that >> usually will give more car for their dollar. > > While I've been quite pleased with the assembly quality of my Sonata, it > certainly isn't in the same league yet as Toyota. However, I think > Hyundai's bribes are much better than Toyota's. I suspect Hyundai will be > a match for Toyota in a few more years, but I don't believe this survey is > accurate today. I think Hyundai is intentionally skewing the numbers, but > this is nothing new for Koreans. Their sense of ethics isn't the same as > ours or Japan's. That is well known. > > > Matt |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
can you tell us how you can pronounce these truths ? .........seems to me
the japanese have been far from ethically superior.(rape of Nanking, Korean comfort girls come to mind) Autowise, how is the sonata leagues inferior to, say, a camry? I will say time will tell, and initial quality isn't everything......ps, I like to top post, and am going to stop apologizing for it! "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message news:c7Gjg.9630$lb.856011@news1.epix.net... > A.C. wrote: > >> Deck wrote: >> >> >>>3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac >>>see : >>>http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 >>> >>>Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the >>>first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for >>>the >>>Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and >>>top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new >>>Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. >> >> >> This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car >> at >> trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the >> Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the >> horror! :-)) >> >> People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality >> from >> Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that >> either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition >> is >> good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that >> usually will give more car for their dollar. > > While I've been quite pleased with the assembly quality of my Sonata, it > certainly isn't in the same league yet as Toyota. However, I think > Hyundai's bribes are much better than Toyota's. I suspect Hyundai will be > a match for Toyota in a few more years, but I don't believe this survey is > accurate today. I think Hyundai is intentionally skewing the numbers, but > this is nothing new for Koreans. Their sense of ethics isn't the same as > ours or Japan's. That is well known. > > > Matt |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
can you tell us how you can pronounce these truths ? .........seems to me
the japanese have been far from ethically superior.(rape of Nanking, Korean comfort girls come to mind) Autowise, how is the sonata leagues inferior to, say, a camry? I will say time will tell, and initial quality isn't everything......ps, I like to top post, and am going to stop apologizing for it! "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message news:c7Gjg.9630$lb.856011@news1.epix.net... > A.C. wrote: > >> Deck wrote: >> >> >>>3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac >>>see : >>>http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 >>> >>>Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the >>>first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for >>>the >>>Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and >>>top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new >>>Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. >> >> >> This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car >> at >> trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the >> Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the >> horror! :-)) >> >> People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality >> from >> Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that >> either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition >> is >> good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that >> usually will give more car for their dollar. > > While I've been quite pleased with the assembly quality of my Sonata, it > certainly isn't in the same league yet as Toyota. However, I think > Hyundai's bribes are much better than Toyota's. I suspect Hyundai will be > a match for Toyota in a few more years, but I don't believe this survey is > accurate today. I think Hyundai is intentionally skewing the numbers, but > this is nothing new for Koreans. Their sense of ethics isn't the same as > ours or Japan's. That is well known. > > > Matt |
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Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"...
enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:) |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"...
enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:) |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"...
enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:) |
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Deck wrote:
> Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"... > enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:) > No, not at all. Hyundai's gains in product quality have been impressive. I just think that the current rating is too much due to bribery and not enough due (yet) to underlying product quality. I have no doubt that Hyundai will get there, but I don't think they are there yet. I'd place them in the top 10 probably, but they aren't ahead of Toyota by any stretch of the imagination. Matt |
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Deck wrote:
> Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"... > enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:) > No, not at all. Hyundai's gains in product quality have been impressive. I just think that the current rating is too much due to bribery and not enough due (yet) to underlying product quality. I have no doubt that Hyundai will get there, but I don't think they are there yet. I'd place them in the top 10 probably, but they aren't ahead of Toyota by any stretch of the imagination. Matt |
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Deck wrote:
> Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"... > enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:) > No, not at all. Hyundai's gains in product quality have been impressive. I just think that the current rating is too much due to bribery and not enough due (yet) to underlying product quality. I have no doubt that Hyundai will get there, but I don't think they are there yet. I'd place them in the top 10 probably, but they aren't ahead of Toyota by any stretch of the imagination. Matt |
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One thing to notice is that this report is on "initial quality" and not "long
term quality". Don't get me wrong, I think Hyundai is making excellent cars and are a lot more reliable than any domestic cars, but they are not in the same league as Japanese or German manufactures. I've had some minor problems with problems on my sister's 99 Elantra (90k miles ) which just shouldn't happen at the time they occurred (spark plug wires at 50k, O2 sensor at 45k, fuel pump connectors needed to be cleaned at 60k). Also the paint they use doesn't seem to hold up. There are dull marks on sections of the car and that's with 2 coats of wax per year. My 95 Integra looks almost like new even today. Nick On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:37:59 -0400, "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote: >3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac >see : >http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 > >Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the >first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the >Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and >top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new >Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
One thing to notice is that this report is on "initial quality" and not "long
term quality". Don't get me wrong, I think Hyundai is making excellent cars and are a lot more reliable than any domestic cars, but they are not in the same league as Japanese or German manufactures. I've had some minor problems with problems on my sister's 99 Elantra (90k miles ) which just shouldn't happen at the time they occurred (spark plug wires at 50k, O2 sensor at 45k, fuel pump connectors needed to be cleaned at 60k). Also the paint they use doesn't seem to hold up. There are dull marks on sections of the car and that's with 2 coats of wax per year. My 95 Integra looks almost like new even today. Nick On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:37:59 -0400, "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote: >3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac >see : >http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 > >Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the >first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the >Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and >top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new >Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
One thing to notice is that this report is on "initial quality" and not "long
term quality". Don't get me wrong, I think Hyundai is making excellent cars and are a lot more reliable than any domestic cars, but they are not in the same league as Japanese or German manufactures. I've had some minor problems with problems on my sister's 99 Elantra (90k miles ) which just shouldn't happen at the time they occurred (spark plug wires at 50k, O2 sensor at 45k, fuel pump connectors needed to be cleaned at 60k). Also the paint they use doesn't seem to hold up. There are dull marks on sections of the car and that's with 2 coats of wax per year. My 95 Integra looks almost like new even today. Nick On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:37:59 -0400, "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote: >3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac >see : >http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 > >Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the >first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the >Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and >top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new >Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:39:38 -0400, "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"... >enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:) I agree, to a point. All I have to go by is MY initial quality. After 4 months and 4K miles, only 1 problem. (ka-thunk in the trunk). That represents the best build quality of any car I've owned, by far. This is my 7th new car. I've owned VW, Audi, Mazda, and Toyota, and none of them were close to my Sonata in initial build quality. Of course, each successive car I buy has better build quality, so I chalk some of it up to general improvement in the industry. The Sonata owner's I'm talking to also have very few problems. When they do, they get pretty upset, so I don't think they are holding back on reporting. The problems I am reading about are mostly niggling problems, and many aren't even related to build quality. I bet if you took away the ka-thunk in the trunk, Hyundai would have been even higher in the JD Power survey. That's because the Sonata made up such a high percentage of Hyundai sales in 2005. -- Bob |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:39:38 -0400, "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"... >enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:) I agree, to a point. All I have to go by is MY initial quality. After 4 months and 4K miles, only 1 problem. (ka-thunk in the trunk). That represents the best build quality of any car I've owned, by far. This is my 7th new car. I've owned VW, Audi, Mazda, and Toyota, and none of them were close to my Sonata in initial build quality. Of course, each successive car I buy has better build quality, so I chalk some of it up to general improvement in the industry. The Sonata owner's I'm talking to also have very few problems. When they do, they get pretty upset, so I don't think they are holding back on reporting. The problems I am reading about are mostly niggling problems, and many aren't even related to build quality. I bet if you took away the ka-thunk in the trunk, Hyundai would have been even higher in the JD Power survey. That's because the Sonata made up such a high percentage of Hyundai sales in 2005. -- Bob |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:39:38 -0400, "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"... >enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:) I agree, to a point. All I have to go by is MY initial quality. After 4 months and 4K miles, only 1 problem. (ka-thunk in the trunk). That represents the best build quality of any car I've owned, by far. This is my 7th new car. I've owned VW, Audi, Mazda, and Toyota, and none of them were close to my Sonata in initial build quality. Of course, each successive car I buy has better build quality, so I chalk some of it up to general improvement in the industry. The Sonata owner's I'm talking to also have very few problems. When they do, they get pretty upset, so I don't think they are holding back on reporting. The problems I am reading about are mostly niggling problems, and many aren't even related to build quality. I bet if you took away the ka-thunk in the trunk, Hyundai would have been even higher in the JD Power survey. That's because the Sonata made up such a high percentage of Hyundai sales in 2005. -- Bob |
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I have been driving a Sonata GLS V6 since December 2005 and am very
satisfied with the initial quality of the vehicle. I am one of the customer that filled J.D. Power's surveys and sent it in. I don't know about bribery and all, but I sent in top initial quality rating based on my own experience. I truly felt (and still feel) that I got a much better car (feature-wise) for much lower price compared to Camry or Accord. I am yet to find any significant problem or annoyance. I ride in my friend's new Camry to work (in the passenger seat). It is 2006 model bought in 2005. I don't see any difference between Sonata and Camry. I know for a fact that long-term quality of Camry is great because I used to own a Camry. Time will tell how Sonata will perform long-term. Before November 2006, we didn't even consider Hyundai. We are currently contemplating replacing our 1999 Sienna with a Hyundai or Kia. "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:aca1e4802d97cd021b6aa7a191b392eb@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... > 3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac > see : > http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 > > Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the > first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the > Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and > top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new > Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. > |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
I have been driving a Sonata GLS V6 since December 2005 and am very
satisfied with the initial quality of the vehicle. I am one of the customer that filled J.D. Power's surveys and sent it in. I don't know about bribery and all, but I sent in top initial quality rating based on my own experience. I truly felt (and still feel) that I got a much better car (feature-wise) for much lower price compared to Camry or Accord. I am yet to find any significant problem or annoyance. I ride in my friend's new Camry to work (in the passenger seat). It is 2006 model bought in 2005. I don't see any difference between Sonata and Camry. I know for a fact that long-term quality of Camry is great because I used to own a Camry. Time will tell how Sonata will perform long-term. Before November 2006, we didn't even consider Hyundai. We are currently contemplating replacing our 1999 Sienna with a Hyundai or Kia. "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:aca1e4802d97cd021b6aa7a191b392eb@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... > 3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac > see : > http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 > > Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the > first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the > Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and > top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new > Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. > |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
I have been driving a Sonata GLS V6 since December 2005 and am very
satisfied with the initial quality of the vehicle. I am one of the customer that filled J.D. Power's surveys and sent it in. I don't know about bribery and all, but I sent in top initial quality rating based on my own experience. I truly felt (and still feel) that I got a much better car (feature-wise) for much lower price compared to Camry or Accord. I am yet to find any significant problem or annoyance. I ride in my friend's new Camry to work (in the passenger seat). It is 2006 model bought in 2005. I don't see any difference between Sonata and Camry. I know for a fact that long-term quality of Camry is great because I used to own a Camry. Time will tell how Sonata will perform long-term. Before November 2006, we didn't even consider Hyundai. We are currently contemplating replacing our 1999 Sienna with a Hyundai or Kia. "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:aca1e4802d97cd021b6aa7a191b392eb@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... > 3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac > see : > http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 > > Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the > first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the > Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and > top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new > Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. > |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Just another useless JD Powers report
"Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:aca1e4802d97cd021b6aa7a191b392eb@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... > 3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac > see : > http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 > > Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the > first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the > Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and > top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new > Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. > |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Just another useless JD Powers report
"Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:aca1e4802d97cd021b6aa7a191b392eb@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... > 3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac > see : > http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 > > Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the > first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the > Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and > top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new > Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. > |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Just another useless JD Powers report
"Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:aca1e4802d97cd021b6aa7a191b392eb@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... > 3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac > see : > http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388 > > Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the > first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the > Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and > top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new > Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon. > |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Nick wrote:
> One thing to notice is that this report is on "initial quality" and not "long > term quality". Don't get me wrong, I think Hyundai is making excellent cars and > are a lot more reliable than any domestic cars, but they are not in the same > league as Japanese or German manufactures. I agree. Hyundai (and the rest of the world for that matter, except maybe Italy) is well ahead of the Germans, but still not up with the Japanese, at least not the best of the Japanese. Matt |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Nick wrote:
> One thing to notice is that this report is on "initial quality" and not "long > term quality". Don't get me wrong, I think Hyundai is making excellent cars and > are a lot more reliable than any domestic cars, but they are not in the same > league as Japanese or German manufactures. I agree. Hyundai (and the rest of the world for that matter, except maybe Italy) is well ahead of the Germans, but still not up with the Japanese, at least not the best of the Japanese. Matt |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Nick wrote:
> One thing to notice is that this report is on "initial quality" and not "long > term quality". Don't get me wrong, I think Hyundai is making excellent cars and > are a lot more reliable than any domestic cars, but they are not in the same > league as Japanese or German manufactures. I agree. Hyundai (and the rest of the world for that matter, except maybe Italy) is well ahead of the Germans, but still not up with the Japanese, at least not the best of the Japanese. Matt |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:39:38 -0400, "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"... >>enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:) > > > I agree, to a point. > > All I have to go by is MY initial quality. After 4 months and 4K miles, > only 1 problem. (ka-thunk in the trunk). That represents the best build > quality of any car I've owned, by far. This is my 7th new car. I've owned > VW, Audi, Mazda, and Toyota, and none of them were close to my Sonata in > initial build quality. Of course, each successive car I buy has better build > quality, so I chalk some of it up to general improvement in the industry. Yes, we trust our own experience the most! I've found the Sonata pretty good, but only equivalent to my 86 Jeep Comanche and 84 Honda Accord, but not as good as my 94 Chevy pickup or my 89 Plymouth Acclaim, the latter being the best car I've ever owned both from initial quality as well as long-term durability. The Chevy pickup really only had two problems, one a design problem that couldn't be corrected (stumbling at partial throttle) and one major problem (pushrod failure), or it would have been the equal of the Acclaim. My Sonata has had no real assembly defects, but has several design defects that we'd discussed before here. Matt |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:39:38 -0400, "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"... >>enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:) > > > I agree, to a point. > > All I have to go by is MY initial quality. After 4 months and 4K miles, > only 1 problem. (ka-thunk in the trunk). That represents the best build > quality of any car I've owned, by far. This is my 7th new car. I've owned > VW, Audi, Mazda, and Toyota, and none of them were close to my Sonata in > initial build quality. Of course, each successive car I buy has better build > quality, so I chalk some of it up to general improvement in the industry. Yes, we trust our own experience the most! I've found the Sonata pretty good, but only equivalent to my 86 Jeep Comanche and 84 Honda Accord, but not as good as my 94 Chevy pickup or my 89 Plymouth Acclaim, the latter being the best car I've ever owned both from initial quality as well as long-term durability. The Chevy pickup really only had two problems, one a design problem that couldn't be corrected (stumbling at partial throttle) and one major problem (pushrod failure), or it would have been the equal of the Acclaim. My Sonata has had no real assembly defects, but has several design defects that we'd discussed before here. Matt |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:39:38 -0400, "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"... >>enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:) > > > I agree, to a point. > > All I have to go by is MY initial quality. After 4 months and 4K miles, > only 1 problem. (ka-thunk in the trunk). That represents the best build > quality of any car I've owned, by far. This is my 7th new car. I've owned > VW, Audi, Mazda, and Toyota, and none of them were close to my Sonata in > initial build quality. Of course, each successive car I buy has better build > quality, so I chalk some of it up to general improvement in the industry. Yes, we trust our own experience the most! I've found the Sonata pretty good, but only equivalent to my 86 Jeep Comanche and 84 Honda Accord, but not as good as my 94 Chevy pickup or my 89 Plymouth Acclaim, the latter being the best car I've ever owned both from initial quality as well as long-term durability. The Chevy pickup really only had two problems, one a design problem that couldn't be corrected (stumbling at partial throttle) and one major problem (pushrod failure), or it would have been the equal of the Acclaim. My Sonata has had no real assembly defects, but has several design defects that we'd discussed before here. Matt |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
sour grapes?
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Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
sour grapes?
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Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
sour grapes?
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Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:25:00 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>My Sonata has had no real assembly defects, but has several design >defects that we'd discussed before here. I think there is probably a correlation between build quality and long term reliability. Certainly not 1:1, but usually cars that little stuff falls off of when new have big stuff fall off later. :) -- Bob |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:25:00 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>My Sonata has had no real assembly defects, but has several design >defects that we'd discussed before here. I think there is probably a correlation between build quality and long term reliability. Certainly not 1:1, but usually cars that little stuff falls off of when new have big stuff fall off later. :) -- Bob |
Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:25:00 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>My Sonata has had no real assembly defects, but has several design >defects that we'd discussed before here. I think there is probably a correlation between build quality and long term reliability. Certainly not 1:1, but usually cars that little stuff falls off of when new have big stuff fall off later. :) -- Bob |
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