2006 LX Sonata
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
Tom wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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>
>>>My biggest annoyance? Having to use a step stool to wash the roof; a
>>>thunking noise in the rear suspension when driving over washboard roads
>>>at
>>>low speed.
>>
>>You forgot the sloshing gas tank, touchy throttle, lousy cup holders and
>>creak in the dash when you hit sharp bumps. :-)
>>
>
>
> And the sunglass holders that aren't large enough to hold most sunglasses.
I hadn't noticed that as I don't wear sunglasses. I have the
photodarkening lenses in my normal glasses. :-)
> Tell the dealer to have the service dept turn on the thingy which locks the
> doors when you reach 15mph. I hate that I have to go back for that,
> instead of them asking me up front.
I always hated cars (GM mainly) that did that. Fortunately, disabling
it was easy on my minivans and my Sonata never did it to start with, and
for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
Matt
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:qY60g.7887$lb.718771@news1.epix.net...
>
>>>My biggest annoyance? Having to use a step stool to wash the roof; a
>>>thunking noise in the rear suspension when driving over washboard roads
>>>at
>>>low speed.
>>
>>You forgot the sloshing gas tank, touchy throttle, lousy cup holders and
>>creak in the dash when you hit sharp bumps. :-)
>>
>
>
> And the sunglass holders that aren't large enough to hold most sunglasses.
I hadn't noticed that as I don't wear sunglasses. I have the
photodarkening lenses in my normal glasses. :-)
> Tell the dealer to have the service dept turn on the thingy which locks the
> doors when you reach 15mph. I hate that I have to go back for that,
> instead of them asking me up front.
I always hated cars (GM mainly) that did that. Fortunately, disabling
it was easy on my minivans and my Sonata never did it to start with, and
for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
Matt
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 13:56:38 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>> My biggest annoyance? Having to use a step stool to wash the roof; a
>> thunking noise in the rear suspension when driving over washboard roads at
>> low speed.
>
>You forgot the sloshing gas tank, touchy throttle, lousy cup holders and
>creak in the dash when you hit sharp bumps. :-)
To my utter delight, I have experienced none of those problems.
OK, I'm sure I have the lousy cup holder, but it doesn't matter. If I bring
a cup of coffee near the Sonata, my wife gives me "the look".
--
Bob
>> My biggest annoyance? Having to use a step stool to wash the roof; a
>> thunking noise in the rear suspension when driving over washboard roads at
>> low speed.
>
>You forgot the sloshing gas tank, touchy throttle, lousy cup holders and
>creak in the dash when you hit sharp bumps. :-)
To my utter delight, I have experienced none of those problems.
OK, I'm sure I have the lousy cup holder, but it doesn't matter. If I bring
a cup of coffee near the Sonata, my wife gives me "the look".
--
Bob
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 13:56:38 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>> My biggest annoyance? Having to use a step stool to wash the roof; a
>> thunking noise in the rear suspension when driving over washboard roads at
>> low speed.
>
>You forgot the sloshing gas tank, touchy throttle, lousy cup holders and
>creak in the dash when you hit sharp bumps. :-)
To my utter delight, I have experienced none of those problems.
OK, I'm sure I have the lousy cup holder, but it doesn't matter. If I bring
a cup of coffee near the Sonata, my wife gives me "the look".
--
Bob
>> My biggest annoyance? Having to use a step stool to wash the roof; a
>> thunking noise in the rear suspension when driving over washboard roads at
>> low speed.
>
>You forgot the sloshing gas tank, touchy throttle, lousy cup holders and
>creak in the dash when you hit sharp bumps. :-)
To my utter delight, I have experienced none of those problems.
OK, I'm sure I have the lousy cup holder, but it doesn't matter. If I bring
a cup of coffee near the Sonata, my wife gives me "the look".
--
Bob
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 13:56:38 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>> My biggest annoyance? Having to use a step stool to wash the roof; a
>> thunking noise in the rear suspension when driving over washboard roads at
>> low speed.
>
>You forgot the sloshing gas tank, touchy throttle, lousy cup holders and
>creak in the dash when you hit sharp bumps. :-)
To my utter delight, I have experienced none of those problems.
OK, I'm sure I have the lousy cup holder, but it doesn't matter. If I bring
a cup of coffee near the Sonata, my wife gives me "the look".
--
Bob
>> My biggest annoyance? Having to use a step stool to wash the roof; a
>> thunking noise in the rear suspension when driving over washboard roads at
>> low speed.
>
>You forgot the sloshing gas tank, touchy throttle, lousy cup holders and
>creak in the dash when you hit sharp bumps. :-)
To my utter delight, I have experienced none of those problems.
OK, I'm sure I have the lousy cup holder, but it doesn't matter. If I bring
a cup of coffee near the Sonata, my wife gives me "the look".
--
Bob
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
> my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
15mph as a threat. :-)
My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
--
Bob
> my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
15mph as a threat. :-)
My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
--
Bob
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
> my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
15mph as a threat. :-)
My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
--
Bob
> my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
15mph as a threat. :-)
My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
--
Bob
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
> my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
15mph as a threat. :-)
My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
--
Bob
> my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
15mph as a threat. :-)
My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
--
Bob
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
>
>
> That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
> 15mph as a threat. :-)
>
> My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
> My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
> jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
> the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
> have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
Yep, that is one reason I bought just the plain GL with standard shift
and 4 cylinder engine. A lot less to fail than the GLS and LX. :-)
Plus, I bought it as a cheap commuter car so no use loading it up with
options. I'm saving that for when I can afford a Vette. :-)
Matt
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
>
>
> That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
> 15mph as a threat. :-)
>
> My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
> My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
> jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
> the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
> have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
Yep, that is one reason I bought just the plain GL with standard shift
and 4 cylinder engine. A lot less to fail than the GLS and LX. :-)
Plus, I bought it as a cheap commuter car so no use loading it up with
options. I'm saving that for when I can afford a Vette. :-)
Matt
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
>
>
> That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
> 15mph as a threat. :-)
>
> My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
> My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
> jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
> the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
> have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
Yep, that is one reason I bought just the plain GL with standard shift
and 4 cylinder engine. A lot less to fail than the GLS and LX. :-)
Plus, I bought it as a cheap commuter car so no use loading it up with
options. I'm saving that for when I can afford a Vette. :-)
Matt
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
>
>
> That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
> 15mph as a threat. :-)
>
> My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
> My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
> jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
> the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
> have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
Yep, that is one reason I bought just the plain GL with standard shift
and 4 cylinder engine. A lot less to fail than the GLS and LX. :-)
Plus, I bought it as a cheap commuter car so no use loading it up with
options. I'm saving that for when I can afford a Vette. :-)
Matt
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
>
>
> That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
> 15mph as a threat. :-)
>
> My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
> My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
> jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
> the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
> have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
Yep, that is one reason I bought just the plain GL with standard shift
and 4 cylinder engine. A lot less to fail than the GLS and LX. :-)
Plus, I bought it as a cheap commuter car so no use loading it up with
options. I'm saving that for when I can afford a Vette. :-)
Matt
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
>
>
> That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
> 15mph as a threat. :-)
>
> My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
> My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
> jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
> the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
> have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
Yep, that is one reason I bought just the plain GL with standard shift
and 4 cylinder engine. A lot less to fail than the GLS and LX. :-)
Plus, I bought it as a cheap commuter car so no use loading it up with
options. I'm saving that for when I can afford a Vette. :-)
Matt
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:02:06 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>Bob Adkins wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>>>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
>>
>>
>> That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
>> 15mph as a threat. :-)
>>
>> My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
>> My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
>> jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
>> the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
>> have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
>
>Yep, that is one reason I bought just the plain GL with standard shift
>and 4 cylinder engine. A lot less to fail than the GLS and LX. :-)
>
>Plus, I bought it as a cheap commuter car so no use loading it up with
>options. I'm saving that for when I can afford a Vette. :-)
If the car was for me, I would have bought the cheapest available. Since it
was for my wife to commute 20x2 miles a day, I was sort of forced to get a
more mom-friendly package. :-)
I don't feel that modern automatics any longer have a significant
reliability or economy disadvantage to manual. At least not like they did in
the old days. I'm clipping along at 26 mpg, and looks like I'll hit 27 this
tank. Only 1500 miles on the odo. If I can get 26-28 mpg with 70% highway
driving I will be delighted. The car is high, wide, and has a very strong
V6... not exactly mileage friendly.
--
Bob
>Bob Adkins wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>>>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
>>
>>
>> That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
>> 15mph as a threat. :-)
>>
>> My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
>> My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
>> jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
>> the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
>> have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
>
>Yep, that is one reason I bought just the plain GL with standard shift
>and 4 cylinder engine. A lot less to fail than the GLS and LX. :-)
>
>Plus, I bought it as a cheap commuter car so no use loading it up with
>options. I'm saving that for when I can afford a Vette. :-)
If the car was for me, I would have bought the cheapest available. Since it
was for my wife to commute 20x2 miles a day, I was sort of forced to get a
more mom-friendly package. :-)
I don't feel that modern automatics any longer have a significant
reliability or economy disadvantage to manual. At least not like they did in
the old days. I'm clipping along at 26 mpg, and looks like I'll hit 27 this
tank. Only 1500 miles on the odo. If I can get 26-28 mpg with 70% highway
driving I will be delighted. The car is high, wide, and has a very strong
V6... not exactly mileage friendly.
--
Bob
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:02:06 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>Bob Adkins wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>>>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
>>
>>
>> That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
>> 15mph as a threat. :-)
>>
>> My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
>> My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
>> jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
>> the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
>> have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
>
>Yep, that is one reason I bought just the plain GL with standard shift
>and 4 cylinder engine. A lot less to fail than the GLS and LX. :-)
>
>Plus, I bought it as a cheap commuter car so no use loading it up with
>options. I'm saving that for when I can afford a Vette. :-)
If the car was for me, I would have bought the cheapest available. Since it
was for my wife to commute 20x2 miles a day, I was sort of forced to get a
more mom-friendly package. :-)
I don't feel that modern automatics any longer have a significant
reliability or economy disadvantage to manual. At least not like they did in
the old days. I'm clipping along at 26 mpg, and looks like I'll hit 27 this
tank. Only 1500 miles on the odo. If I can get 26-28 mpg with 70% highway
driving I will be delighted. The car is high, wide, and has a very strong
V6... not exactly mileage friendly.
--
Bob
>Bob Adkins wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>>>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
>>
>>
>> That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
>> 15mph as a threat. :-)
>>
>> My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
>> My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
>> jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
>> the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
>> have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
>
>Yep, that is one reason I bought just the plain GL with standard shift
>and 4 cylinder engine. A lot less to fail than the GLS and LX. :-)
>
>Plus, I bought it as a cheap commuter car so no use loading it up with
>options. I'm saving that for when I can afford a Vette. :-)
If the car was for me, I would have bought the cheapest available. Since it
was for my wife to commute 20x2 miles a day, I was sort of forced to get a
more mom-friendly package. :-)
I don't feel that modern automatics any longer have a significant
reliability or economy disadvantage to manual. At least not like they did in
the old days. I'm clipping along at 26 mpg, and looks like I'll hit 27 this
tank. Only 1500 miles on the odo. If I can get 26-28 mpg with 70% highway
driving I will be delighted. The car is high, wide, and has a very strong
V6... not exactly mileage friendly.
--
Bob
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:02:06 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>Bob Adkins wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>>>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
>>
>>
>> That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
>> 15mph as a threat. :-)
>>
>> My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
>> My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
>> jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
>> the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
>> have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
>
>Yep, that is one reason I bought just the plain GL with standard shift
>and 4 cylinder engine. A lot less to fail than the GLS and LX. :-)
>
>Plus, I bought it as a cheap commuter car so no use loading it up with
>options. I'm saving that for when I can afford a Vette. :-)
If the car was for me, I would have bought the cheapest available. Since it
was for my wife to commute 20x2 miles a day, I was sort of forced to get a
more mom-friendly package. :-)
I don't feel that modern automatics any longer have a significant
reliability or economy disadvantage to manual. At least not like they did in
the old days. I'm clipping along at 26 mpg, and looks like I'll hit 27 this
tank. Only 1500 miles on the odo. If I can get 26-28 mpg with 70% highway
driving I will be delighted. The car is high, wide, and has a very strong
V6... not exactly mileage friendly.
--
Bob
>Bob Adkins wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:44:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>my Sonata never did it to start with, and
>>>for that I'm VERY happy! :-)
>>
>>
>> That makes 2 of us. I never could imagine anyone running beside my car at
>> 15mph as a threat. :-)
>>
>> My Sonata is a "keeper", and I intend to run it until the wheels fall off.
>> My previous 3 vehicles were kept 12, 11, and 11 years, so I will probably
>> jeep it at least 10. I am wary of anything that is likely to fail before
>> the car is 10 years old. The more gizmos you have, the more likely you will
>> have grief with at least some of them over the lifetime of the car.
>
>Yep, that is one reason I bought just the plain GL with standard shift
>and 4 cylinder engine. A lot less to fail than the GLS and LX. :-)
>
>Plus, I bought it as a cheap commuter car so no use loading it up with
>options. I'm saving that for when I can afford a Vette. :-)
If the car was for me, I would have bought the cheapest available. Since it
was for my wife to commute 20x2 miles a day, I was sort of forced to get a
more mom-friendly package. :-)
I don't feel that modern automatics any longer have a significant
reliability or economy disadvantage to manual. At least not like they did in
the old days. I'm clipping along at 26 mpg, and looks like I'll hit 27 this
tank. Only 1500 miles on the odo. If I can get 26-28 mpg with 70% highway
driving I will be delighted. The car is high, wide, and has a very strong
V6... not exactly mileage friendly.
--
Bob
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
Bob Adkins wrote:
> I don't feel that modern automatics any longer have a significant
> reliability or economy disadvantage to manual. At least not like they did in
> the old days. I'm clipping along at 26 mpg, and looks like I'll hit 27 this
> tank. Only 1500 miles on the odo. If I can get 26-28 mpg with 70% highway
> driving I will be delighted. The car is high, wide, and has a very strong
> V6... not exactly mileage friendly.
I agree that the differences are much less than in days gone by,
especially with regard to economy. However, I think that standard
transmissions are still much more durable and they are much cheaper to
start with (I think about $800 on the Sonata). I can't remember ever
hearing of a manual transmission failure on a passenger car or pickup.
I hear fairly often of automatic transmission failures, especially in
the heavier front drive vehicles such as minivans. Now I realize that
automatics outsell standards 10:1 or more, so you'd expect to hear about
at least 10 times as many failures even if the reliabilities were equal.
However, I still think a standard is much more reliable than an
automatic and they require less and less expensive maintenance as well.
However, to me the economy and reliability are just nice side affects.
I buy standard shift because I simply like to shift for myself.
Matt
> I don't feel that modern automatics any longer have a significant
> reliability or economy disadvantage to manual. At least not like they did in
> the old days. I'm clipping along at 26 mpg, and looks like I'll hit 27 this
> tank. Only 1500 miles on the odo. If I can get 26-28 mpg with 70% highway
> driving I will be delighted. The car is high, wide, and has a very strong
> V6... not exactly mileage friendly.
I agree that the differences are much less than in days gone by,
especially with regard to economy. However, I think that standard
transmissions are still much more durable and they are much cheaper to
start with (I think about $800 on the Sonata). I can't remember ever
hearing of a manual transmission failure on a passenger car or pickup.
I hear fairly often of automatic transmission failures, especially in
the heavier front drive vehicles such as minivans. Now I realize that
automatics outsell standards 10:1 or more, so you'd expect to hear about
at least 10 times as many failures even if the reliabilities were equal.
However, I still think a standard is much more reliable than an
automatic and they require less and less expensive maintenance as well.
However, to me the economy and reliability are just nice side affects.
I buy standard shift because I simply like to shift for myself.
Matt
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Re: 2006 LX Sonata
Bob Adkins wrote:
> I don't feel that modern automatics any longer have a significant
> reliability or economy disadvantage to manual. At least not like they did in
> the old days. I'm clipping along at 26 mpg, and looks like I'll hit 27 this
> tank. Only 1500 miles on the odo. If I can get 26-28 mpg with 70% highway
> driving I will be delighted. The car is high, wide, and has a very strong
> V6... not exactly mileage friendly.
I agree that the differences are much less than in days gone by,
especially with regard to economy. However, I think that standard
transmissions are still much more durable and they are much cheaper to
start with (I think about $800 on the Sonata). I can't remember ever
hearing of a manual transmission failure on a passenger car or pickup.
I hear fairly often of automatic transmission failures, especially in
the heavier front drive vehicles such as minivans. Now I realize that
automatics outsell standards 10:1 or more, so you'd expect to hear about
at least 10 times as many failures even if the reliabilities were equal.
However, I still think a standard is much more reliable than an
automatic and they require less and less expensive maintenance as well.
However, to me the economy and reliability are just nice side affects.
I buy standard shift because I simply like to shift for myself.
Matt
> I don't feel that modern automatics any longer have a significant
> reliability or economy disadvantage to manual. At least not like they did in
> the old days. I'm clipping along at 26 mpg, and looks like I'll hit 27 this
> tank. Only 1500 miles on the odo. If I can get 26-28 mpg with 70% highway
> driving I will be delighted. The car is high, wide, and has a very strong
> V6... not exactly mileage friendly.
I agree that the differences are much less than in days gone by,
especially with regard to economy. However, I think that standard
transmissions are still much more durable and they are much cheaper to
start with (I think about $800 on the Sonata). I can't remember ever
hearing of a manual transmission failure on a passenger car or pickup.
I hear fairly often of automatic transmission failures, especially in
the heavier front drive vehicles such as minivans. Now I realize that
automatics outsell standards 10:1 or more, so you'd expect to hear about
at least 10 times as many failures even if the reliabilities were equal.
However, I still think a standard is much more reliable than an
automatic and they require less and less expensive maintenance as well.
However, to me the economy and reliability are just nice side affects.
I buy standard shift because I simply like to shift for myself.
Matt
