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Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:LcZmf.9031$Ea6.2331@trnddc08: > Eric G. wrote: > >> Anyway, even after all this, I will be doing all of my own >> maintenance myself from now on. My car will see the dealer only for >> warranty items and recalls. >> >> Eric > > Scary how misinformed yet authoritative sounding service people can > be, eh? > > John > Yes. And in my case, I would be willing to be that the service manager was a salesman that couldn't make it in the sales department. Eric |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:LcZmf.9031$Ea6.2331@trnddc08: > Eric G. wrote: > >> Anyway, even after all this, I will be doing all of my own >> maintenance myself from now on. My car will see the dealer only for >> warranty items and recalls. >> >> Eric > > Scary how misinformed yet authoritative sounding service people can > be, eh? > > John > Yes. And in my case, I would be willing to be that the service manager was a salesman that couldn't make it in the sales department. Eric |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Eric G. wrote: >> Yes, I probably will switch over to synthetic. The problem I have >> right now is that becasue this Sonata is a new model, there are no >> aftermarket oil filters available yet. My dealer wants $18 for a >> filter!! > > > Yikes! Check around at other dealers. Prices for parts seem to vary > quite a bit. It's interesting that the filter has changed, since every > Hyundai through '05 has used the same filter. I wonder if the filter is really different or the books just haven't been updated to list the 06 Sonata. I just bought a new Sonata this evening, so I won't have to worry about the first oil change for a few months. Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Eric G. wrote: >> Yes, I probably will switch over to synthetic. The problem I have >> right now is that becasue this Sonata is a new model, there are no >> aftermarket oil filters available yet. My dealer wants $18 for a >> filter!! > > > Yikes! Check around at other dealers. Prices for parts seem to vary > quite a bit. It's interesting that the filter has changed, since every > Hyundai through '05 has used the same filter. I wonder if the filter is really different or the books just haven't been updated to list the 06 Sonata. I just bought a new Sonata this evening, so I won't have to worry about the first oil change for a few months. Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
Eric G. wrote:
> Just to follow up on this thread, I got into it BIG time with service > manager. He claims that using 5W20 oil will void my warranty. So I took a > trip over there to show him my manual. Now the manual does also say that > 10W30 oil is acceptable down to 0 degrees F, but that 5W20 or 5W30 is the > preferred oil viscosity for my 3.3L motor. > > He still did not believe me and said that was a misprint. So in front of > me he called Hyundai directly. Well, he at some nice crow that afternoon. > > He also was nice enough to apologize for his rudeness and sent a helper to > get 6 quarts of Synthetic 5W20 for my car. When the helper returned, they > changed my oil and filter again (while I watched). > > So that was probably about $30 worth of oil, plus a retail $18 oil filter, > AND they threw in another free oil change for my troubles. > > After learning that I had purchased 5 cars from this dealer, and referred > people that purchased another 4 cars, the service guy completely changed > his tune. Amazing what that will do. > > Anyway, even after all this, I will be doing all of my own maintenance > myself from now on. My car will see the dealer only for warranty items and > recalls. Makes one wonder how they will handle something complex if they can't even do an oil change properly! :-) Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
Eric G. wrote:
> Just to follow up on this thread, I got into it BIG time with service > manager. He claims that using 5W20 oil will void my warranty. So I took a > trip over there to show him my manual. Now the manual does also say that > 10W30 oil is acceptable down to 0 degrees F, but that 5W20 or 5W30 is the > preferred oil viscosity for my 3.3L motor. > > He still did not believe me and said that was a misprint. So in front of > me he called Hyundai directly. Well, he at some nice crow that afternoon. > > He also was nice enough to apologize for his rudeness and sent a helper to > get 6 quarts of Synthetic 5W20 for my car. When the helper returned, they > changed my oil and filter again (while I watched). > > So that was probably about $30 worth of oil, plus a retail $18 oil filter, > AND they threw in another free oil change for my troubles. > > After learning that I had purchased 5 cars from this dealer, and referred > people that purchased another 4 cars, the service guy completely changed > his tune. Amazing what that will do. > > Anyway, even after all this, I will be doing all of my own maintenance > myself from now on. My car will see the dealer only for warranty items and > recalls. Makes one wonder how they will handle something complex if they can't even do an oil change properly! :-) Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message news:CBlsf.4549$lb.383667@news1.epix.net... > Brian Nystrom wrote: > > > Eric G. wrote: > > >> Yes, I probably will switch over to synthetic. The problem I have > >> right now is that becasue this Sonata is a new model, there are no > >> aftermarket oil filters available yet. My dealer wants $18 for a > >> filter!! > > > > > > Yikes! Check around at other dealers. Prices for parts seem to vary > > quite a bit. It's interesting that the filter has changed, since every > > Hyundai through '05 has used the same filter. > > I wonder if the filter is really different or the books just haven't > been updated to list the 06 Sonata. I just bought a new Sonata this > evening, so I won't have to worry about the first oil change for a few > months. > > > Matt Matt, We bought an 06 Sonata LX with the V6 and it indeed has a cartridge style filter that's not available in an aftermarket variety at any of our local chain parts stores as of yet. I picked a couple up at the dealership for $12 a piece to get me through for a while. IIRC from the manual, the filter canister is mounted up top on this engine and you have to take the plastic plenum cover off to get to it. Keith |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message news:CBlsf.4549$lb.383667@news1.epix.net... > Brian Nystrom wrote: > > > Eric G. wrote: > > >> Yes, I probably will switch over to synthetic. The problem I have > >> right now is that becasue this Sonata is a new model, there are no > >> aftermarket oil filters available yet. My dealer wants $18 for a > >> filter!! > > > > > > Yikes! Check around at other dealers. Prices for parts seem to vary > > quite a bit. It's interesting that the filter has changed, since every > > Hyundai through '05 has used the same filter. > > I wonder if the filter is really different or the books just haven't > been updated to list the 06 Sonata. I just bought a new Sonata this > evening, so I won't have to worry about the first oil change for a few > months. > > > Matt Matt, We bought an 06 Sonata LX with the V6 and it indeed has a cartridge style filter that's not available in an aftermarket variety at any of our local chain parts stores as of yet. I picked a couple up at the dealership for $12 a piece to get me through for a while. IIRC from the manual, the filter canister is mounted up top on this engine and you have to take the plastic plenum cover off to get to it. Keith |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
Keith Warren wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message > news:CBlsf.4549$lb.383667@news1.epix.net... > >>Brian Nystrom wrote: >> >> >>>Eric G. wrote: >> >>>>Yes, I probably will switch over to synthetic. The problem I have >>>>right now is that becasue this Sonata is a new model, there are no >>>>aftermarket oil filters available yet. My dealer wants $18 for a >>>>filter!! >>> >>> >>>Yikes! Check around at other dealers. Prices for parts seem to vary >>>quite a bit. It's interesting that the filter has changed, since every >>>Hyundai through '05 has used the same filter. >> >>I wonder if the filter is really different or the books just haven't >>been updated to list the 06 Sonata. I just bought a new Sonata this >>evening, so I won't have to worry about the first oil change for a few >>months. >> >> >>Matt > > > Matt, > > We bought an 06 Sonata LX with the V6 and it indeed has a cartridge style > filter that's not available in an aftermarket variety at any of our local > chain parts stores as of yet. I picked a couple up at the dealership for $12 > a piece to get me through for a while. IIRC from the manual, the filter > canister is mounted up top on this engine and you have to take the plastic > plenum cover off to get to it. Wow, I haven't seen a cartridge filter on a car since I can't remember when. My Kawasaki Voyager had one and was a pain to change. I drove diesel trucks a couple of decades ago that had them, but they were easy to change as you could drain the oil from the canister before unscrewing it to remove the filter element. I wonder how messy the Sonata filter will be to change? I have the L4, not the V6 so I wonder if it has the same filter style? Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
Keith Warren wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message > news:CBlsf.4549$lb.383667@news1.epix.net... > >>Brian Nystrom wrote: >> >> >>>Eric G. wrote: >> >>>>Yes, I probably will switch over to synthetic. The problem I have >>>>right now is that becasue this Sonata is a new model, there are no >>>>aftermarket oil filters available yet. My dealer wants $18 for a >>>>filter!! >>> >>> >>>Yikes! Check around at other dealers. Prices for parts seem to vary >>>quite a bit. It's interesting that the filter has changed, since every >>>Hyundai through '05 has used the same filter. >> >>I wonder if the filter is really different or the books just haven't >>been updated to list the 06 Sonata. I just bought a new Sonata this >>evening, so I won't have to worry about the first oil change for a few >>months. >> >> >>Matt > > > Matt, > > We bought an 06 Sonata LX with the V6 and it indeed has a cartridge style > filter that's not available in an aftermarket variety at any of our local > chain parts stores as of yet. I picked a couple up at the dealership for $12 > a piece to get me through for a while. IIRC from the manual, the filter > canister is mounted up top on this engine and you have to take the plastic > plenum cover off to get to it. Wow, I haven't seen a cartridge filter on a car since I can't remember when. My Kawasaki Voyager had one and was a pain to change. I drove diesel trucks a couple of decades ago that had them, but they were easy to change as you could drain the oil from the canister before unscrewing it to remove the filter element. I wonder how messy the Sonata filter will be to change? I have the L4, not the V6 so I wonder if it has the same filter style? Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message news:rinsf.4553$lb.383774@news1.epix.net... > Wow, I haven't seen a cartridge filter on a car since I can't remember > when. My Kawasaki Voyager had one and was a pain to change. I drove > diesel trucks a couple of decades ago that had them, but they were easy to > change as you could drain the oil from the canister before unscrewing it > to remove the filter element. I wonder how messy the Sonata filter will > be to change? I have the L4, not the V6 so I wonder if it has the same > filter style? > > Matt Not messy at all. I have just over 1K on mine, and I was curious..... Plastic cover over engine comes off. Put some towels around the filter body to catch drips, and unscew. Wait a few for it to drain. Amazing the fine particles you can see in the oil that collects on top of the filter. Purolator will have one out in 90 days - they say. It's part number L35610. |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message news:rinsf.4553$lb.383774@news1.epix.net... > Wow, I haven't seen a cartridge filter on a car since I can't remember > when. My Kawasaki Voyager had one and was a pain to change. I drove > diesel trucks a couple of decades ago that had them, but they were easy to > change as you could drain the oil from the canister before unscrewing it > to remove the filter element. I wonder how messy the Sonata filter will > be to change? I have the L4, not the V6 so I wonder if it has the same > filter style? > > Matt Not messy at all. I have just over 1K on mine, and I was curious..... Plastic cover over engine comes off. Put some towels around the filter body to catch drips, and unscew. Wait a few for it to drain. Amazing the fine particles you can see in the oil that collects on top of the filter. Purolator will have one out in 90 days - they say. It's part number L35610. |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:32:30 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message >news:rinsf.4553$lb.383774@news1.epix.net... >> Wow, I haven't seen a cartridge filter on a car since I can't remember >> when. My Kawasaki Voyager had one and was a pain to change. I drove >> diesel trucks a couple of decades ago that had them, but they were easy to >> change as you could drain the oil from the canister before unscrewing it >> to remove the filter element. I wonder how messy the Sonata filter will >> be to change? I have the L4, not the V6 so I wonder if it has the same >> filter style? >> >> Matt > >Not messy at all. I have just over 1K on mine, and I was curious..... >Plastic cover over engine comes off. Put some towels around the filter body >to catch drips, and unscew. Wait a few for it to drain. Amazing the fine >particles you can see in the oil that collects on top of the filter. >Purolator will have one out in 90 days - they say. It's part number L35610. > Actually, the instructions in he owners manual say to loosen the cap and allow it to drain. I take that to imply not removing the cap before it drains. Good news regarding the Purolator, I love my Sonata but generally have poor experiences with dealers (any brand). The one I purchased it from is no exception. gerry -- Personal home page - http://gogood.com gerry misspelled in my email address to confuse robots |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:32:30 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message >news:rinsf.4553$lb.383774@news1.epix.net... >> Wow, I haven't seen a cartridge filter on a car since I can't remember >> when. My Kawasaki Voyager had one and was a pain to change. I drove >> diesel trucks a couple of decades ago that had them, but they were easy to >> change as you could drain the oil from the canister before unscrewing it >> to remove the filter element. I wonder how messy the Sonata filter will >> be to change? I have the L4, not the V6 so I wonder if it has the same >> filter style? >> >> Matt > >Not messy at all. I have just over 1K on mine, and I was curious..... >Plastic cover over engine comes off. Put some towels around the filter body >to catch drips, and unscew. Wait a few for it to drain. Amazing the fine >particles you can see in the oil that collects on top of the filter. >Purolator will have one out in 90 days - they say. It's part number L35610. > Actually, the instructions in he owners manual say to loosen the cap and allow it to drain. I take that to imply not removing the cap before it drains. Good news regarding the Purolator, I love my Sonata but generally have poor experiences with dealers (any brand). The one I purchased it from is no exception. gerry -- Personal home page - http://gogood.com gerry misspelled in my email address to confuse robots |
Re: 2006 Sonata Oil
If I didn't know better, I would say that car manufacturers are tickling
with the idea of returning to this trend of cartridge filters again. The GM 2.2 litre 4 that is in cars from the Saturn Ion to the Chevrolet Classic and many other vehicles also has a cartridge in a container that you reach from under the hood, just like this oone. If you pay attention to little things like loosening it and lifting it out just a little ways, then draining the oil from underneath (to keep the drips to a minimum when you do take the filter out), you will learn to like this new way a LOT, unless you are one of these people that either has a car hoist or loves to lay underneath a car to change a filter. If there is a negative, it is that the cartridge filters are commanding a higher price. But at least its simple - there are not three or four different styles of the same brand of filter to choose from. After buying numerous filter wrenches and having to come up with more creative ways to get these spin-on filters off of my various vehicles through the years (I think most of the spin-on's got engineered into the vehicle at the last minute without ANY thought of whether anyone could get to them or not), I am loving this cartridge replacement on my Oldsmobile. Thomas Wenndt "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:PWmtf.84073$k76.25014@bignews6.bellsouth.net. .. > > "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message > news:rinsf.4553$lb.383774@news1.epix.net... >> Wow, I haven't seen a cartridge filter on a car since I can't remember >> when. My Kawasaki Voyager had one and was a pain to change. I drove >> diesel trucks a couple of decades ago that had them, but they were easy >> to change as you could drain the oil from the canister before unscrewing >> it to remove the filter element. I wonder how messy the Sonata filter >> will be to change? I have the L4, not the V6 so I wonder if it has the >> same filter style? >> >> Matt > > Not messy at all. I have just over 1K on mine, and I was curious..... > Plastic cover over engine comes off. Put some towels around the filter > body to catch drips, and unscew. Wait a few for it to drain. Amazing the > fine particles you can see in the oil that collects on top of the filter. > Purolator will have one out in 90 days - they say. It's part number > L35610. > |
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