2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
09-22-2006, 04:01 PM
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2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
Hi guys,
I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone joint
there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
softness is also caused by the silicone.
What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet is
soldered?
I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other vehicles I
owned.
Shaman
Shaman
I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone joint
there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
softness is also caused by the silicone.
What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet is
soldered?
I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other vehicles I
owned.
Shaman
Shaman
09-22-2006, 04:45 PM
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi guys,
>
> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone joint
> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>
> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet
is
> soldered?
>
> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>
> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other vehicles
I
> owned.
>
If there is silicone there, then it would be quite normal to see paint
adhesion problems. Silicone is the arch enemy of paint. It will never
stick to silicone and often, not to where silicone was since silicone is
about impervious to solvents.
Perhaps it's not silicone but instead, seam sealer. Paint generally sticks
well to seam sealer though.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
09-22-2006, 04:45 PM
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi guys,
>
> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone joint
> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>
> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet
is
> soldered?
>
> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>
> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other vehicles
I
> owned.
>
If there is silicone there, then it would be quite normal to see paint
adhesion problems. Silicone is the arch enemy of paint. It will never
stick to silicone and often, not to where silicone was since silicone is
about impervious to solvents.
Perhaps it's not silicone but instead, seam sealer. Paint generally sticks
well to seam sealer though.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
09-22-2006, 05:15 PM
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
Seam sealer... possible... but they told me silicone...
I don't know "seam sealer". Is it soft to touch?
Shaman
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>
> "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hiXQg.29181$IL4.368420@weber.videotron.net...
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
>> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone
>> joint
>> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
>> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>>
>> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
>> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet
> is
>> soldered?
>>
>> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>>
>> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other
>> vehicles
> I
>> owned.
>>
>
> If there is silicone there, then it would be quite normal to see paint
> adhesion problems. Silicone is the arch enemy of paint. It will never
> stick to silicone and often, not to where silicone was since silicone is
> about impervious to solvents.
>
> Perhaps it's not silicone but instead, seam sealer. Paint generally
> sticks
> well to seam sealer though.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>
I don't know "seam sealer". Is it soft to touch?
Shaman
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
1780e$45144d19$471fbb6d$18150@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hiXQg.29181$IL4.368420@weber.videotron.net...
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
>> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone
>> joint
>> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
>> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>>
>> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
>> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet
> is
>> soldered?
>>
>> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>>
>> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other
>> vehicles
> I
>> owned.
>>
>
> If there is silicone there, then it would be quite normal to see paint
> adhesion problems. Silicone is the arch enemy of paint. It will never
> stick to silicone and often, not to where silicone was since silicone is
> about impervious to solvents.
>
> Perhaps it's not silicone but instead, seam sealer. Paint generally
> sticks
> well to seam sealer though.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>
09-22-2006, 05:15 PM
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
Seam sealer... possible... but they told me silicone...
I don't know "seam sealer". Is it soft to touch?
Shaman
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
1780e$45144d19$471fbb6d$18150@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hiXQg.29181$IL4.368420@weber.videotron.net...
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
>> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone
>> joint
>> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
>> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>>
>> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
>> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet
> is
>> soldered?
>>
>> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>>
>> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other
>> vehicles
> I
>> owned.
>>
>
> If there is silicone there, then it would be quite normal to see paint
> adhesion problems. Silicone is the arch enemy of paint. It will never
> stick to silicone and often, not to where silicone was since silicone is
> about impervious to solvents.
>
> Perhaps it's not silicone but instead, seam sealer. Paint generally
> sticks
> well to seam sealer though.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>
I don't know "seam sealer". Is it soft to touch?
Shaman
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
1780e$45144d19$471fbb6d$18150@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hiXQg.29181$IL4.368420@weber.videotron.net...
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
>> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone
>> joint
>> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
>> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>>
>> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
>> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet
> is
>> soldered?
>>
>> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>>
>> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other
>> vehicles
> I
>> owned.
>>
>
> If there is silicone there, then it would be quite normal to see paint
> adhesion problems. Silicone is the arch enemy of paint. It will never
> stick to silicone and often, not to where silicone was since silicone is
> about impervious to solvents.
>
> Perhaps it's not silicone but instead, seam sealer. Paint generally
> sticks
> well to seam sealer though.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>
09-22-2006, 05:16 PM
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Seam sealer... possible... but they told me silicone...
>
> I don't know "seam sealer". Is it soft to touch?
>
Different types do stay soft to the touch. Some get harder - though not as
hard as the steel. Most do not stay "pushy". They aren't soft.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
09-22-2006, 05:16 PM
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Seam sealer... possible... but they told me silicone...
>
> I don't know "seam sealer". Is it soft to touch?
>
Different types do stay soft to the touch. Some get harder - though not as
hard as the steel. Most do not stay "pushy". They aren't soft.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
09-22-2006, 06:06 PM
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
Shaman wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone joint
> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>
> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet is
> soldered?
>
> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>
> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other vehicles I
> owned.
Not knowing exactly where the bubbles are, I can't comment. However, I
have had other cars with sealant on some of the body seams and the
sealant was painted over so this at least sounds plausible.
Matt
> Hi guys,
>
> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone joint
> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>
> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet is
> soldered?
>
> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>
> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other vehicles I
> owned.
Not knowing exactly where the bubbles are, I can't comment. However, I
have had other cars with sealant on some of the body seams and the
sealant was painted over so this at least sounds plausible.
Matt
09-22-2006, 06:06 PM
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
Shaman wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone joint
> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>
> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet is
> soldered?
>
> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>
> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other vehicles I
> owned.
Not knowing exactly where the bubbles are, I can't comment. However, I
have had other cars with sealant on some of the body seams and the
sealant was painted over so this at least sounds plausible.
Matt
> Hi guys,
>
> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone joint
> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>
> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet is
> soldered?
>
> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>
> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other vehicles I
> owned.
Not knowing exactly where the bubbles are, I can't comment. However, I
have had other cars with sealant on some of the body seams and the
sealant was painted over so this at least sounds plausible.
Matt
09-23-2006, 11:25 AM
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
Shaman wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone joint
> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>
> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet is
> soldered?
>
> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>
> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other vehicles I
> owned.
>
> Shaman
>
>
>
> Shaman
>
>
Try posting a link to pictures.
> Hi guys,
>
> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone joint
> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>
> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet is
> soldered?
>
> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>
> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other vehicles I
> owned.
>
> Shaman
>
>
>
> Shaman
>
>
Try posting a link to pictures.
09-23-2006, 11:25 AM
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
Shaman wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone joint
> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>
> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet is
> soldered?
>
> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>
> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other vehicles I
> owned.
>
> Shaman
>
>
>
> Shaman
>
>
Try posting a link to pictures.
> Hi guys,
>
> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone joint
> there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and the
> softness is also caused by the silicone.
>
> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet is
> soldered?
>
> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>
> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other vehicles I
> owned.
>
> Shaman
>
>
>
> Shaman
>
>
Try posting a link to pictures.
09-23-2006, 04:57 PM
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Good Idea!
Here it is, hope you will see it.
http://server4.pictiger.com/img/5912...mg-0538-2.php][img=http://images4.pictiger.com/thumbs/3e/f9f4375738ba9db625457f2f6608f03e.th.jpg][/URL]
Shaman
"avn" <avn@canada.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
VlcRg.20182$KA6.6717@clgrps12...
> Shaman wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
>> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone
>> joint there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and
>> the softness is also caused by the silicone.
>>
>> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
>> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet
>> is soldered?
>>
>> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>>
>> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other
>> vehicles I owned.
>>
>> Shaman
>>
>>
>>
>> Shaman
>
>
> Try posting a link to pictures.
Here it is, hope you will see it.
http://server4.pictiger.com/img/5912...mg-0538-2.php][img=http://images4.pictiger.com/thumbs/3e/f9f4375738ba9db625457f2f6608f03e.th.jpg][/URL]
Shaman
"avn" <avn@canada.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
VlcRg.20182$KA6.6717@clgrps12...
> Shaman wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
>> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone
>> joint there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and
>> the softness is also caused by the silicone.
>>
>> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
>> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet
>> is soldered?
>>
>> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>>
>> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other
>> vehicles I owned.
>>
>> Shaman
>>
>>
>>
>> Shaman
>
>
> Try posting a link to pictures.
09-23-2006, 04:57 PM
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem ---> Follow-up
Good Idea!
Here it is, hope you will see it.
http://server4.pictiger.com/img/5912...mg-0538-2.php][img=http://images4.pictiger.com/thumbs/3e/f9f4375738ba9db625457f2f6608f03e.th.jpg][/URL]
Shaman
"avn" <avn@canada.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
VlcRg.20182$KA6.6717@clgrps12...
> Shaman wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
>> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone
>> joint there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and
>> the softness is also caused by the silicone.
>>
>> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
>> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet
>> is soldered?
>>
>> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>>
>> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other
>> vehicles I owned.
>>
>> Shaman
>>
>>
>>
>> Shaman
>
>
> Try posting a link to pictures.
Here it is, hope you will see it.
http://server4.pictiger.com/img/5912...mg-0538-2.php][img=http://images4.pictiger.com/thumbs/3e/f9f4375738ba9db625457f2f6608f03e.th.jpg][/URL]
Shaman
"avn" <avn@canada.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
VlcRg.20182$KA6.6717@clgrps12...
> Shaman wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I met the Hyundai representative regarding the paint bubbling inside the
>> doors. His answer: This is absolutely normal, as there is a silicone
>> joint there, and the bubbles are in the silicone, not in the paint, and
>> the softness is also caused by the silicone.
>>
>> What you guys are thinking about this, and, for those who have a 2006
>> Sonata, do you see the same thin inside your doors, where the metal sheet
>> is soldered?
>>
>> I will see an independent body shop for an exam.
>>
>> Any advice on this issue? As I never seen silicone there on other
>> vehicles I owned.
>>
>> Shaman
>>
>>
>>
>> Shaman
>
>
> Try posting a link to pictures.
09-23-2006, 05:26 PM
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"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Not knowing exactly where the bubbles are, I can't comment. However, I
> have had other cars with sealant on some of the body seams and the sealant
> was painted over so this at least sounds plausible.
>
> Matt
Here is a pic, hope you will see something on it.
http://server4.pictiger.com/img/5912...mg-0538-2.php][img=http://images4.pictiger.com/thumbs/3e/f9f4375738ba9db625457f2f6608f03e.th.jpg][/URL]
Shaman
09-23-2006, 05:26 PM
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"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
k7ZQg.1444$Db4.178668@news1.epix.net...
> Not knowing exactly where the bubbles are, I can't comment. However, I
> have had other cars with sealant on some of the body seams and the sealant
> was painted over so this at least sounds plausible.
>
> Matt
Here is a pic, hope you will see something on it.
http://server4.pictiger.com/img/5912...mg-0538-2.php][img=http://images4.pictiger.com/thumbs/3e/f9f4375738ba9db625457f2f6608f03e.th.jpg][/URL]
Shaman