Fantine

What is supposed to happen on the 07 Elantra SE when the lock button is
pressed twice on the remote key fob? The doors do lock, but there's neither
a "chirp" (which the quick guide says there should be) nor do the hazard
lights flash (which the owners manual says should happen). It's a bit
frustrating when you get told two different things, and neither happens.
The hazards do flash twice when the unlock button is pressed, it's the lock
button that's messed up. I'm going to bring it back to the dealer next
Saturday, but I want to know what I should expect. Thanks.

VicTek

"Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message
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> What is supposed to happen on the 07 Elantra SE when the lock button is
> pressed twice on the remote key fob? The doors do lock, but there's
> neither a "chirp" (which the quick guide says there should be) nor do the
> hazard lights flash (which the owners manual says should happen). It's a
> bit frustrating when you get told two different things, and neither
> happens. The hazards do flash twice when the unlock button is pressed,
> it's the lock button that's messed up. I'm going to bring it back to the
> dealer next Saturday, but I want to know what I should expect. Thanks.
I have a 2003 Elantra GLS and when I lock it using the remote the
parking/hazard lights flash once, but there is no sound. If you lock the
car with the remote and then unlock it with the key it should set off the
alarm - you could try that to see if the alarm is being set. In any case
you should be a getting a flash from the hazard lights as a visual
confirmation - sounds like you need some "warranty service". Hope this
helps.

Fantine

I just tried to set off the alarm by opening the door with the key, and
nothing happened, so it does sound as if the alarm isn't setting. Looks
like the car is going in on Monday morning. What a disappointment -- the
car will be in the shop before my check has even cleared. I'll be
mentioning that to the salesman and reminding him that I haven't done his
evaluation yet.

"VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message
> news:tov5h.46956$Fi1.1351@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> What is supposed to happen on the 07 Elantra SE when the lock button is
>> pressed twice on the remote key fob? The doors do lock, but there's
>> neither a "chirp" (which the quick guide says there should be) nor do the
>> hazard lights flash (which the owners manual says should happen). It's a
>> bit frustrating when you get told two different things, and neither
>> happens. The hazards do flash twice when the unlock button is pressed,
>> it's the lock button that's messed up. I'm going to bring it back to the
>> dealer next Saturday, but I want to know what I should expect. Thanks.
> I have a 2003 Elantra GLS and when I lock it using the remote the
> parking/hazard lights flash once, but there is no sound. If you lock the
> car with the remote and then unlock it with the key it should set off the
> alarm - you could try that to see if the alarm is being set. In any case
> you should be a getting a flash from the hazard lights as a visual
> confirmation - sounds like you need some "warranty service". Hope this
> helps.
>

Edwin Pawlowski

"Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message
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>I just tried to set off the alarm by opening the door with the key, and
>nothing happened, so it does sound as if the alarm isn't setting. Looks
>like the car is going in on Monday morning. What a disappointment -- the
>car will be in the shop before my check has even cleared. I'll be
>mentioning that to the salesman and reminding him that I haven't done his
>evaluation yet.

Opening the car with a key should not set off an alarm. That would be dumb.
Leave a window open, then reach in and open the door with no key and see if
that sets the alarm off.

As for evaluating the salesman, did he build the car? I don't understand
the relationship between how he handled the sale and a possible error made
at the factory.

Fantine

I'm upset at the salesman because he told me that the car had been fully
inspected just before I signed the papers. I even test-drove it before
signing, since it was not the car I had test-driven before, but I did not
turn the car off and lock it because the guy was standing right there to
take it to be washed (as I said before, the disarming double-flash is
working, which I saw at the dealership when I opened the doors to test-drive
it). Maybe it was my mistake not to check that alarm armed properly, but I
still think that the dealership should deliver a car in a fully-operable
condition. I have spoken to the salesman and he said he would talk to his
general manager about how to compensate me. So, let's see what they say on
Monday.

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message
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>>I just tried to set off the alarm by opening the door with the key, and
>>nothing happened, so it does sound as if the alarm isn't setting. Looks
>>like the car is going in on Monday morning. What a disappointment -- the
>>car will be in the shop before my check has even cleared. I'll be
>>mentioning that to the salesman and reminding him that I haven't done his
>>evaluation yet.
>
> Opening the car with a key should not set off an alarm. That would be
> dumb. Leave a window open, then reach in and open the door with no key and
> see if that sets the alarm off.
>
> As for evaluating the salesman, did he build the car? I don't understand
> the relationship between how he handled the sale and a possible error made
> at the factory.
>
>
>

Smee

On 2006-11-12 16:37:16 -0500, "Fantine" <fantine@att.net> said:

> I'm upset at the salesman because he told me that the car had been
> fully inspected just before I signed the papers. I even test-drove it
> before signing, since it was not the car I had test-driven before, but
> I did not turn the car off and lock it because the guy was standing
> right there to take it to be washed (as I said before, the disarming
> double-flash is working, which I saw at the dealership when I opened
> the doors to test-drive it). Maybe it was my mistake not to check that
> alarm armed properly, but I still think that the dealership should
> deliver a car in a fully-operable condition. I have spoken to the
> salesman and he said he would talk to his general manager about how to
> compensate me. So, let's see what they say on Monday.
>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:QsI5h.5182$IR4.3748@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>
>> "Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message
>> newsEH5h.252256$QZ1.228287@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> I just tried to set off the alarm by opening the door with the key, and
>>> nothing happened, so it does sound as if the alarm isn't setting.
>>> Looks like the car is going in on Monday morning. What a
>>> disappointment -- the car will be in the shop before my check has even
>>> cleared. I'll be mentioning that to the salesman and reminding him
>>> that I haven't done his evaluation yet.
>>
>> Opening the car with a key should not set off an alarm. That would be
>> dumb. Leave a window open, then reach in and open the door with no key
>> and see if that sets the alarm off.
>>
>> As for evaluating the salesman, did he build the car? I don't
>> understand the relationship between how he handled the sale and a
>> possible error made at the factory.

The salesman my have used the valet switch under the dash to
de-activate the alarm and never re-activated it.

Mike Marlow

"Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message
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> I'm upset at the salesman because he told me that the car had been fully
> inspected just before I signed the papers. I even test-drove it before
> signing, since it was not the car I had test-driven before, but I did not
> turn the car off and lock it because the guy was standing right there to
> take it to be washed (as I said before, the disarming double-flash is
> working, which I saw at the dealership when I opened the doors to
test-drive
> it). Maybe it was my mistake not to check that alarm armed properly, but
I
> still think that the dealership should deliver a car in a fully-operable
> condition. I have spoken to the salesman and he said he would talk to his
> general manager about how to compensate me. So, let's see what they say
on
> Monday.
>

How they will compensate you? Geeze - that's too much. For cripe's sake,
it's a user option. Just make it work the way you want and quit making so
much out of such a little thing. I can't wait to hear you cry the day you
get a flat tire.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Fantine

I'll ask on Monday. I don't see anything in the manual about that.

"Smee" <farkoff@mac.com> wrote in message
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> On 2006-11-12 16:37:16 -0500, "Fantine" <fantine@att.net> said:
>
>> I'm upset at the salesman because he told me that the car had been fully
>> inspected just before I signed the papers. I even test-drove it before
>> signing, since it was not the car I had test-driven before, but I did not
>> turn the car off and lock it because the guy was standing right there to
>> take it to be washed (as I said before, the disarming double-flash is
>> working, which I saw at the dealership when I opened the doors to
>> test-drive it). Maybe it was my mistake not to check that alarm armed
>> properly, but I still think that the dealership should deliver a car in a
>> fully-operable condition. I have spoken to the salesman and he said he
>> would talk to his general manager about how to compensate me. So, let's
>> see what they say on Monday.
>>
>> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
>> news:QsI5h.5182$IR4.3748@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>>
>>> "Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message
>>> newsEH5h.252256$QZ1.228287@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>> I just tried to set off the alarm by opening the door with the key, and
>>>> nothing happened, so it does sound as if the alarm isn't setting.
>>>> Looks like the car is going in on Monday morning. What a
>>>> disappointment -- the car will be in the shop before my check has even
>>>> cleared. I'll be mentioning that to the salesman and reminding him
>>>> that I haven't done his evaluation yet.
>>>
>>> Opening the car with a key should not set off an alarm. That would be
>>> dumb. Leave a window open, then reach in and open the door with no key
>>> and see if that sets the alarm off.
>>>
>>> As for evaluating the salesman, did he build the car? I don't
>>> understand the relationship between how he handled the sale and a
>>> possible error made at the factory.
>
> The salesman my have used the valet switch under the dash to de-activate
> the alarm and never re-activated it.
>

Edwin Pawlowski

"Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message .
> I'm upset at the salesman because he told me that the car had been fully
> inspected just before I signed the papers.

Most cars are tested. They are tested and checked out by the prep crew, not
the salesman. They have a check sheet and assured him it was in perfect
condition. I don't know of a car salesman that has ever done more than open
the door and let you in. That is his job. Dealer prep is done in the
service department.

FWIW, my Sonata does not make any noise when the alarm is set either. I
like that.

Partner

It may be dumb, but that's the way it works. My wife locks the car with her
remote, I open it with a key--- alarms big time.


--


"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:QsI5h.5182

> Opening the car with a key should not set off an alarm. That would be
> dumb.

Fantine

I'm going to have to take the morning off from work to drive to the
dealership, wait for them to fix it, then drive home to drop the car off
since I don't have a parking space at work and THEN go to work. In rush
hour traffic, the drive to the dealership will take me a minimum of 40
minutes each way. Whether it was the fault of the salesman or the shop that
prepped the car incorrectly, the dealer should compensate me for my time and
the inconvenience. Whatever happened to customer satisfaction?

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in message
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> "Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message
> news:guM5h.50296$Fi1.23234@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> I'm upset at the salesman because he told me that the car had been fully
>> inspected just before I signed the papers. I even test-drove it before
>> signing, since it was not the car I had test-driven before, but I did not
>> turn the car off and lock it because the guy was standing right there to
>> take it to be washed (as I said before, the disarming double-flash is
>> working, which I saw at the dealership when I opened the doors to
> test-drive
>> it). Maybe it was my mistake not to check that alarm armed properly, but
> I
>> still think that the dealership should deliver a car in a fully-operable
>> condition. I have spoken to the salesman and he said he would talk to
>> his
>> general manager about how to compensate me. So, let's see what they say
> on
>> Monday.
>>
>
> How they will compensate you? Geeze - that's too much. For cripe's sake,
> it's a user option. Just make it work the way you want and quit making so
> much out of such a little thing. I can't wait to hear you cry the day you
> get a flat tire.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

Edwin Pawlowski

"Partner" <Murphy23@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> It may be dumb, but that's the way it works. My wife locks the car with
> her remote, I open it with a key--- alarms big time.
>
>

If it was not so late, I'd go try my car to see if it works that way. Sure
seems dumb to me. What happens if the batter in the key fob dies? Or
hundreds of other possible reasons to open the door with the key?

I'll give mine a try in the morning.

Mike Marlow

"Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message
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> I'm going to have to take the morning off from work to drive to the
> dealership, wait for them to fix it, then drive home to drop the car off
> since I don't have a parking space at work and THEN go to work. In rush
> hour traffic, the drive to the dealership will take me a minimum of 40
> minutes each way. Whether it was the fault of the salesman or the shop
that
> prepped the car incorrectly, the dealer should compensate me for my time
and
> the inconvenience. Whatever happened to customer satisfaction?
>

Customer satisfaction died when customers became so demanding about what
they are "owed", and found ways to make everything a dramatic impact on
their lives. I suppose you could call the dealer's service department and
let them tell you what to do, or probably a few other ideas that wouldn't
present such a hardship on your life but those would not satisfy your sense
that the dealer owes you something. Best of luck. I suspect nothing this
dealer does is going to be satisfactory to you and before this is over you
will be telling us that Hyundai corporation owes you something.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Edwin Pawlowski

"Partner" <Murphy23@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> It may be dumb, but that's the way it works. My wife locks the car with
> her remote, I open it with a key--- alarms big time.
>

Tried my Sonata, twice, It did not set off the alarm. It only opened the
driver's door.

Eric G.

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in
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>
> "Partner" <Murphy23@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:4dmdnQ3M0q06VcrYnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> It may be dumb, but that's the way it works. My wife locks the car
>> with her remote, I open it with a key--- alarms big time.
>>
>
> Tried my Sonata, twice, It did not set off the alarm. It only opened
> the driver's door.

Just tried my Mother-in-laws 2006 Elantra and it DID alarm with the key,
but my 2006 Sonata and our 2007 Entourage DID NOT alarm with the key. Go
figure.

Eric