2007 Sonota
01-10-2007, 08:35 PM
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2007 Sonota
From: "Irwin Opper" <ijopper@comcast.com>
Subject: 2007 Sonota
Date: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:32 AM
I have a 2007 sonota 6 cyl.. Can any one tell me how to activate the speed
sensing auto door locks?
Do I have to go back to the dealer?
TIA,
Irwin Opper
Yup. You back to the dealer, and pay your $78.00 - or whatever they get for
the one hour minimun for hooking up the ScamTool for a couple minutes. Most
other vehicles - Dodge Caravan, for example - allow the user to change the
status by doing some sequence of ignition switch / door lock button a couple
of times. Why they leave this off at the factory, one can only guess.
01-11-2007, 09:57 AM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
"Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> Yup. You back to the dealer, and pay your $78.00 - or whatever they get
> for
> the one hour minimun for hooking up the ScamTool for a couple minutes.
> Most
> other vehicles - Dodge Caravan, for example - allow the user to change the
> status by doing some sequence of ignition switch / door lock button a
> couple
> of times. Why they leave this off at the factory, one can only guess.
That sucks. To get a better "value" for the hours, have the service do some
other job while you are there. Get your hubcaps dusted or something. Maybe
during an oil change they'd toss it in free? Nah, that would just make for
a happy customer.
01-11-2007, 01:50 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
help?
Best,
Seamus J. Wilson
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> Yup. You back to the dealer, and pay your $78.00 - or whatever they get
>> for
>> the one hour minimun for hooking up the ScamTool for a couple minutes.
>> Most
>> other vehicles - Dodge Caravan, for example - allow the user to change
>> the
>> status by doing some sequence of ignition switch / door lock button a
>> couple
>> of times. Why they leave this off at the factory, one can only guess.
>
> That sucks. To get a better "value" for the hours, have the service do
> some other job while you are there. Get your hubcaps dusted or something.
> Maybe during an oil change they'd toss it in free? Nah, that would just
> make for a happy customer.
>
In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
help?
Best,
Seamus J. Wilson
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> Yup. You back to the dealer, and pay your $78.00 - or whatever they get
>> for
>> the one hour minimun for hooking up the ScamTool for a couple minutes.
>> Most
>> other vehicles - Dodge Caravan, for example - allow the user to change
>> the
>> status by doing some sequence of ignition switch / door lock button a
>> couple
>> of times. Why they leave this off at the factory, one can only guess.
>
> That sucks. To get a better "value" for the hours, have the service do
> some other job while you are there. Get your hubcaps dusted or something.
> Maybe during an oil change they'd toss it in free? Nah, that would just
> make for a happy customer.
>
01-11-2007, 02:23 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
"Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@***.net> wrote in message
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> In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
> In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
> help?
If the accident is that bad, there will be no glass blocking access to the
lock mechanism. Nor will they open anyway once the frame is bent into the
door. Emergency personnel carry a tool to break the glass if it is not
broken. One smack does it.
Supposedly, the locks help keep the door closed to lessen the chances of you
getting tossed out.
Honestly, until I had a car that had auto locks, I never locked them. Years
ago, we did not have car jacking every day either but there are time I feel
a bit more secure at a stoplight knowing the doors are locked. Oh, I rarely
have the windows down as I prefer AC over a noisy ride too, but YMMV.
01-11-2007, 03:34 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
"Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@***.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
> In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
> help?
> Best,
> Seamus J. Wilson
>
Never heard of home invasion? You think can't this happen in vehicles? With
one wife and two kids in my car, I preffer to keep the doors locked, in case
of...
Shaman
01-11-2007, 05:27 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
"Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@***.net> wrote in message
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> In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
> In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
> help?
Oh... how about... maybe - break out a window. Now there's a thought.
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01-11-2007, 05:29 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@***.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 3Gvph.2$uA2.0@newsfe07.phx...
> > In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
> > In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
> > help?
> > Best,
> > Seamus J. Wilson
> >
>
> Never heard of home invasion? You think can't this happen in vehicles?
With
> one wife and two kids in my car, I preffer to keep the doors locked, in
case
> of...
>
Happiness is a warm .45
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01-11-2007, 06:05 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
Bob wrote:
> From: "Irwin Opper" <ijopper@comcast.com>
> Subject: 2007 Sonota
> Date: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:32 AM
>
> I have a 2007 sonota 6 cyl.. Can any one tell me how to activate the speed
> sensing auto door locks?
> Do I have to go back to the dealer?
> TIA,
> Irwin Opper
>
> Yup. You back to the dealer, and pay your $78.00 - or whatever they get for
> the one hour minimun for hooking up the ScamTool for a couple minutes. Most
> other vehicles - Dodge Caravan, for example - allow the user to change the
> status by doing some sequence of ignition switch / door lock button a couple
> of times. Why they leave this off at the factory, one can only guess.
Yes, Chrysler has long been a technology leader in the
electrical/electronics area. They also let you display the scan codes
on the MIL by using a ignition key on-off-on-off-on sequence. Then
count the flashes and look up the code. Very neat. I can also do this
on my Chevy truck, but it requires using a paper clip bent open to short
two terminals on the scan connector. Effective, but not nearly as
elegant as Chryslers solution.
If Chryslers manufacturing competency was as good as its engineering,
Toyota would have some competition. I still think Chryslers are some of
the best engineered cars on the market, they just aren't always the best
made cars.
Hyundai may have a similar feature, but I have yet to have the check
engine light come on so I've had no need to find out yet.
Matt
> From: "Irwin Opper" <ijopper@comcast.com>
> Subject: 2007 Sonota
> Date: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:32 AM
>
> I have a 2007 sonota 6 cyl.. Can any one tell me how to activate the speed
> sensing auto door locks?
> Do I have to go back to the dealer?
> TIA,
> Irwin Opper
>
> Yup. You back to the dealer, and pay your $78.00 - or whatever they get for
> the one hour minimun for hooking up the ScamTool for a couple minutes. Most
> other vehicles - Dodge Caravan, for example - allow the user to change the
> status by doing some sequence of ignition switch / door lock button a couple
> of times. Why they leave this off at the factory, one can only guess.
Yes, Chrysler has long been a technology leader in the
electrical/electronics area. They also let you display the scan codes
on the MIL by using a ignition key on-off-on-off-on sequence. Then
count the flashes and look up the code. Very neat. I can also do this
on my Chevy truck, but it requires using a paper clip bent open to short
two terminals on the scan connector. Effective, but not nearly as
elegant as Chryslers solution.
If Chryslers manufacturing competency was as good as its engineering,
Toyota would have some competition. I still think Chryslers are some of
the best engineered cars on the market, they just aren't always the best
made cars.
Hyundai may have a similar feature, but I have yet to have the check
engine light come on so I've had no need to find out yet.
Matt
01-11-2007, 06:06 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3Gvph.2$uA2.0@newsfe07.phx...
>
>>In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
>>In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
>>help?
>
>
> If the accident is that bad, there will be no glass blocking access to the
> lock mechanism. Nor will they open anyway once the frame is bent into the
> door. Emergency personnel carry a tool to break the glass if it is not
> broken. One smack does it.
>
> Supposedly, the locks help keep the door closed to lessen the chances of you
> getting tossed out.
>
> Honestly, until I had a car that had auto locks, I never locked them. Years
> ago, we did not have car jacking every day either but there are time I feel
> a bit more secure at a stoplight knowing the doors are locked. Oh, I rarely
> have the windows down as I prefer AC over a noisy ride too, but YMMV.
I don't like them and have them disabled on all of my cars. I have
other means to deal with a car jacker...
Matt
> "Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3Gvph.2$uA2.0@newsfe07.phx...
>
>>In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
>>In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
>>help?
>
>
> If the accident is that bad, there will be no glass blocking access to the
> lock mechanism. Nor will they open anyway once the frame is bent into the
> door. Emergency personnel carry a tool to break the glass if it is not
> broken. One smack does it.
>
> Supposedly, the locks help keep the door closed to lessen the chances of you
> getting tossed out.
>
> Honestly, until I had a car that had auto locks, I never locked them. Years
> ago, we did not have car jacking every day either but there are time I feel
> a bit more secure at a stoplight knowing the doors are locked. Oh, I rarely
> have the windows down as I prefer AC over a noisy ride too, but YMMV.
I don't like them and have them disabled on all of my cars. I have
other means to deal with a car jacker...
Matt
01-11-2007, 06:07 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
Shaman wrote:
> "Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@***.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 3Gvph.2$uA2.0@newsfe07.phx...
>
>>In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
>>In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
>>help?
>>Best,
>>Seamus J. Wilson
>>
>
>
> Never heard of home invasion? You think can't this happen in vehicles? With
> one wife and two kids in my car, I preffer to keep the doors locked, in case
> of...
Yes, I have heard of both and my response to both is the same. The
invader will soon be reaching room temperature.
Matt
> "Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@***.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 3Gvph.2$uA2.0@newsfe07.phx...
>
>>In a high speed accident does it make sense to have the doors locked?
>>In case of fire and incapacitated occupants what does a bystander do to
>>help?
>>Best,
>>Seamus J. Wilson
>>
>
>
> Never heard of home invasion? You think can't this happen in vehicles? With
> one wife and two kids in my car, I preffer to keep the doors locked, in case
> of...
Yes, I have heard of both and my response to both is the same. The
invader will soon be reaching room temperature.
Matt
01-11-2007, 07:27 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>
> Happiness is a warm .45
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>
Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against theft by
Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)
But seriously... those guys (I never heard of "car invasion" in the area
where I live) are really fasts, and well equiped...
Shaman
Shaman
01-11-2007, 08:55 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
Reply to message from "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> (Thu,
11 Jan 2007 18:27:40) about "Re: 2007 Sonota":
S> Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against
S> theft by Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)
S> But seriously... those guys (I never heard of "car invasion" in the
S> area where I live) are really fasts, and well equiped...
You make an excellent point.
Here in Houston the car jackers apparently know their craft because,
despite the likelihood of the typical Texan to have a gun, I don't recall
hearing of the car jacker getting shot.
As a matter of fact unless one drives around with the gun in their lap, it
usually goes with the car, thereby adding to the problem.
Best Regards
Wayne Moses <wmoses@houston.rr.com> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:39:02 -0600
=== Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3
11 Jan 2007 18:27:40) about "Re: 2007 Sonota":
S> Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against
S> theft by Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)
S> But seriously... those guys (I never heard of "car invasion" in the
S> area where I live) are really fasts, and well equiped...
You make an excellent point.
Here in Houston the car jackers apparently know their craft because,
despite the likelihood of the typical Texan to have a gun, I don't recall
hearing of the car jacker getting shot.
As a matter of fact unless one drives around with the gun in their lap, it
usually goes with the car, thereby adding to the problem.
Best Regards
Wayne Moses <wmoses@houston.rr.com> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:39:02 -0600
=== Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3
01-11-2007, 09:56 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> >
> > Happiness is a warm .45
> >
> > --
> >
> > -Mike-
> > mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
> >
> >
>
> Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against theft
by
> Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)
>
Yeuch - no way man. I don't put bumper stickers on any of my vehicles.
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01-11-2007, 10:01 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
Shaman wrote:
> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>>
>>Happiness is a warm .45
>>
>>--
>>
>>-Mike-
>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>
>>
>
>
> Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against theft by
> Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)
>
> But seriously... those guys (I never heard of "car invasion" in the area
> where I live) are really fasts, and well equiped...
Faster than a speeding bullet? I doubt it. :-)
Matt
> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 5a883$45a6bb53$452894fb$17633@ALLTEL.NET...
>
>>
>>Happiness is a warm .45
>>
>>--
>>
>>-Mike-
>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>
>>
>
>
> Ho, you are the kind of guy with a "this vehicle is insured against theft by
> Smith And Wesson" bumper sticker!! ;-)
>
> But seriously... those guys (I never heard of "car invasion" in the area
> where I live) are really fasts, and well equiped...
Faster than a speeding bullet? I doubt it. :-)
Matt
01-11-2007, 10:17 PM
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Re: 2007 Sonota
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>
> Faster than a speeding bullet? I doubt it. :-)
I agree, you aren't. Good chance the gun is to your heat when the door is
yanked open and you would not have a chance to reach for yours.
Just the other day near Hartford, there was a guy that jacked and wrecked
five cars before finally getting stopped. Seems as though the last one he
picked has a 100+ pound Rotweiller in the back seat.
It is not an every day concern for me, but there are times I travel to a
city with less than desirable streets and automatic or not, the doors would
be locked.