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2007 Tuscon Mileage
Anyone having any issues with the mileage ?
I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate highways. I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. Thanks |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
news.verizon.net wrote: Anyone having any issues with the mileage ?
I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate highways. I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. Thanks The EPA 'estimated' for that model is 19/24, nothing close to 28, if you are getting 17.9 on NY city, that's pretty good. |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:47:59 GMT, "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com>
wrote: >Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? > > I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I >just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips >and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate >highways. > > I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. > > I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the >salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long >till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. > >Thanks It's only rated at 19/24 by the EPA. It would take very carefull driving to match that. This is why I'm so pissed about them dropping the hatchback Elantra. The Tuscon uses the same running gear but the body style has so much more wind drag the milage takes a severe hit. |
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LOL you will never see 28 mpg.
Motor week tested one and out of all the like sport cutes the TUSCON had the worst MPG avg. around 19 mpg. get used to filling her up. "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:POzki.3407$lY4.1781@trndny07... > Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? > > I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I > just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips > and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate > highways. > > I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. > > I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the > salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long > till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. > > Thanks |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
On Jul 9, 7:47 pm, "news.verizon.net" <e...@i-2000.com> wrote:
> Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? > > I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I > just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips > and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate > highways. > > I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. > > I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the > salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long > till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. > > Thanks My V6 FWD get 22 city & 32 Hwy. I use Marathon gas to get this great mileage, as BP puts me at 17 city 26 hwy. I live on Cruise Control too.......... |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
As much of the groups has posted, no way. However, cruise control and a K &
N filter allows my 06 Sonata LX to near if not go over the EPA stated mileage. I pulled 31.7 the other day on a required trip to my Corporate HQ in Las Vegas. I've seen 32 on my trips to Tucson, AZ Steve, AZ "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:POzki.3407$lY4.1781@trndny07... > Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? > > I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I > just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips > and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate > highways. > > I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. > > I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the > salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long > till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. > > Thanks > |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Why does the oil filter matter so much ?
Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. Any comments ?? Thanks "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:POzki.3407$lY4.1781@trndny07... > Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? > > I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I > just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips > and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate > highways. > > I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. > > I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the > salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long > till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. > > Thanks |
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"news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in
news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02: > Why does the oil filter matter so much ? > > Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep > Patriot. Any comments ?? > > Thanks > > > "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message > news:POzki.3407$lY4.1781@trndny07... >> Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? >> >> I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 >> mpg. I >> just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips >> and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is >> interstate highways. >> >> I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to >> 17.9. >> >> I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the >> salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how >> long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. >> >> Thanks I don't see anything about an oil filter mattering. A co-worker has a Patriot. Most likely you'll regret it. Eric |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Very interested, why ??
Thank You Joe "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message news:Xns9969C7E10A8BCXz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ... > "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in > news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02: > >> Why does the oil filter matter so much ? >> >> Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep >> Patriot. Any comments ?? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message >> news:POzki.3407$lY4.1781@trndny07... >>> Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? >>> >>> I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 >>> mpg. I >>> just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips >>> and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is >>> interstate highways. >>> >>> I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to >>> 17.9. >>> >>> I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the >>> salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how >>> long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. >>> >>> Thanks > > I don't see anything about an oil filter mattering. > > A co-worker has a Patriot. Most likely you'll regret it. > > Eric > |
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Air Filter, sorry for the confusion...
"news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02... > Why does the oil filter matter so much ? > > Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. > Any comments ?? > > Thanks > > > "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message > news:POzki.3407$lY4.1781@trndny07... >> Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? >> >> I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I >> just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips >> and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is >> interstate highways. >> >> I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. >> >> I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the >> salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long >> till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. >> >> Thanks > > |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
"news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in news:TOUki.13694$t05.3920
@trndny09: > Very interested, why ?? > Thank You > Joe He can't stand the ride. The gas mileage is worse than he thought. He does nothing but complain about how over-priced they are for what you get. It has also been in the shop twice now for extended periods, but for the life of me I can't recall exactly why. I will ask tomorrow. He also regrets getting the CVT (with the creeper gear) because he says it just feels "weird". These are all pretty much things that he should have noticed on a test drive. If you are aware of them you can either accept them or look elsewhere. Eric |
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"news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02... > Why does the oil filter matter so much ? > > Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. > Any comments ?? >> I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the >> salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long >> till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more. Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was new. As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it. What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting properly. |
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"Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:jaWki.11912$B25.3484@news01.roc.ny... > Air Filter, sorry for the confusion... > Restricted or dirty air filters can cut mileage, but not in 2000 miles that I'm aware of. |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Eric G. wrote:
> "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in news:TOUki.13694$t05.3920 > @trndny09: > >> Very interested, why ?? >> Thank You >> Joe > > He can't stand the ride. The gas mileage is worse than he thought. He > does nothing but complain about how over-priced they are for what you get. > It has also been in the shop twice now for extended periods, but for the > life of me I can't recall exactly why. I will ask tomorrow. > > He also regrets getting the CVT (with the creeper gear) because he says it > just feels "weird". > > These are all pretty much things that he should have noticed on a test > drive. If you are aware of them you can either accept them or look > elsewhere. > > Eric > You can get an accurate MPG on a test drive? You must take VERY long test drives. :-) Matt |
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Eric,
I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny. Rented a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I kept thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you REALLY need that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident? Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style tranny! Steve "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message news:Xns9969DA33B66AXz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130. .. > "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in news:TOUki.13694$t05.3920 > @trndny09: > >> Very interested, why ?? >> Thank You >> Joe > > He can't stand the ride. The gas mileage is worse than he thought. He > does nothing but complain about how over-priced they are for what you get. > It has also been in the shop twice now for extended periods, but for the > life of me I can't recall exactly why. I will ask tomorrow. > > He also regrets getting the CVT (with the creeper gear) because he says it > just feels "weird". > > These are all pretty much things that he should have noticed on a test > drive. If you are aware of them you can either accept them or look > elsewhere. > > Eric > > |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
My point was that the K&N breathes better and collects finer particles which
is essential out here in good ol dusty Arizona! Steve "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:9GWki.7931$bz7.3570@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t... > > "Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in message > news:jaWki.11912$B25.3484@news01.roc.ny... >> Air Filter, sorry for the confusion... >> > > Restricted or dirty air filters can cut mileage, but not in 2000 miles > that I'm aware of. > > |
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"Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:_QXki.11919$B25.6858@news01.roc.ny: > Eric, > > I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny. Rented > a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I kept > thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you REALLY need > that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident? > > Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style > tranny! > > Steve Steve, I personally have only driven a very early example of a CVT. I can't even remember what car that was on, but it just plain sucked then. I have been reading that they have improved immensely since then. Even Car and Driver doesn't bitch about them too much any more. But it definitely is a different experience. On the Patriot the RPM's run up to about 3500 and just hang there under "normal" acceleration. It still seems like a "gimmick" to me. My personal preference would still be a good old slushbox with, oh, maybe 6 or 7 gears. But sadly I am stuck in AT world with my wife being a shift-dweeb!! But the Hyundai AT is pretty damned good in most cases, although it is a little slow to downshift at times. Eric |
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Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:N9Xki.11189$Oc.284773@news1.epix.net: > Eric G. wrote: >> "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in news:TOUki.13694$t05.3920 >> @trndny09: >> >>> Very interested, why ?? >>> Thank You >>> Joe >> >> He can't stand the ride. The gas mileage is worse than he thought. >> He does nothing but complain about how over-priced they are for what >> you get. It has also been in the shop twice now for extended >> periods, but for the life of me I can't recall exactly why. I will >> ask tomorrow. >> >> He also regrets getting the CVT (with the creeper gear) because he >> says it just feels "weird". >> >> These are all pretty much things that he should have noticed on a >> test drive. If you are aware of them you can either accept them or >> look elsewhere. >> >> Eric >> > > You can get an accurate MPG on a test drive? You must take VERY long > test drives. :-) > > Matt OK, Mr. Nit-Picker :-P EXCEPT FOR THE MILEAGE, these are all pretty much things that he should have noticed on a test drive. If you are aware of them you can either accept them or look elsewhere. Eric |
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Eric G. wrote:
> "Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in > news:_QXki.11919$B25.6858@news01.roc.ny: > >> Eric, >> >> I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny. Rented >> a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I kept >> thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you REALLY need >> that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident? >> >> Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style >> tranny! >> >> Steve > > Steve, I personally have only driven a very early example of a CVT. I > can't even remember what car that was on, but it just plain sucked then. I > have been reading that they have improved immensely since then. Even Car > and Driver doesn't bitch about them too much any more. But it definitely > is a different experience. On the Patriot the RPM's run up to about 3500 > and just hang there under "normal" acceleration. It still seems like a > "gimmick" to me. Why a gimmick? Having an IC engine run at its torque peak RPM constantly is the best way to maximize acceleration and efficiency, assuming that the CVT itself has no more loss than does an AT. This is the next best thing to an electric motor which makes 100% of its torque at zero RPM. Matt |
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Steve R. wrote:
> My point was that the K&N breathes better and collects finer particles which > is essential out here in good ol dusty Arizona! Breathes better, yes; collects finer particles, no. It is pretty well known that K&N sacrifices filter efficiency for airflow. Great for racing, but not so good for a street vehicle that you want to have a long life. Matt |
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Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:aO2li.11193$Oc.285988@news1.epix.net: > Eric G. wrote: >> "Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in >> news:_QXki.11919$B25.6858@news01.roc.ny: >> >>> Eric, >>> >>> I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny. >>> Rented a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I >>> kept thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you >>> REALLY need that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident? >>> >>> Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style >>> tranny! >>> >>> Steve >> >> Steve, I personally have only driven a very early example of a CVT. >> I can't even remember what car that was on, but it just plain sucked >> then. I have been reading that they have improved immensely since >> then. Even Car and Driver doesn't bitch about them too much any >> more. But it definitely is a different experience. On the Patriot >> the RPM's run up to about 3500 and just hang there under "normal" >> acceleration. It still seems like a "gimmick" to me. > > Why a gimmick? Having an IC engine run at its torque peak RPM > constantly is the best way to maximize acceleration and efficiency, > assuming that the CVT itself has no more loss than does an AT. This > is the next best thing to an electric motor which makes 100% of its > torque at zero RPM. > > Matt I'm not arguing the physics and mechanics behind it. It just feels gimmicky when you drive it. Eric |
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Agreed. I wish my 06 Sonata had a 5/6 speed manual. Less maintenance too!
The CVTs are just too weird for me. Kept waiting for pushrods to come through the hood!!! Steve "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message news:Xns996A547A084FEXz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ... > Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in > news:aO2li.11193$Oc.285988@news1.epix.net: > >> Eric G. wrote: >>> "Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in >>> news:_QXki.11919$B25.6858@news01.roc.ny: >>> >>>> Eric, >>>> >>>> I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny. >>>> Rented a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I >>>> kept thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you >>>> REALLY need that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident? >>>> >>>> Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style >>>> tranny! >>>> >>>> Steve >>> >>> Steve, I personally have only driven a very early example of a CVT. >>> I can't even remember what car that was on, but it just plain sucked >>> then. I have been reading that they have improved immensely since >>> then. Even Car and Driver doesn't bitch about them too much any >>> more. But it definitely is a different experience. On the Patriot >>> the RPM's run up to about 3500 and just hang there under "normal" >>> acceleration. It still seems like a "gimmick" to me. >> >> Why a gimmick? Having an IC engine run at its torque peak RPM >> constantly is the best way to maximize acceleration and efficiency, >> assuming that the CVT itself has no more loss than does an AT. This >> is the next best thing to an electric motor which makes 100% of its >> torque at zero RPM. >> >> Matt > > I'm not arguing the physics and mechanics behind it. It just feels > gimmicky when you drive it. > > Eric > > |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
On Jul 9, 6:47 pm, "news.verizon.net" <e...@i-2000.com> wrote:
> Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? > > I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I > just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips > and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate > highways. > > I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. > > I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the > salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long > till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. > > Thanks Our '07 Tucson with v6 after 5000ish miles got 24-25 steady state cruising on our last trip, far less in stop and go, right now we're averaging around 19 mpg, and that's with the tires inflated +3 lbs and steady feet. It ain't no Toyota. Save money up front, or save it later, it's all a wash it seems. |
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Matt,
I have to respectfully disagree with you. I might be opening a can of worms here, which is not my intention. I have a brother (Air Force trained) rotary wing mechanic and saw their use in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. on choppers, tanks, Humvees, etc. Why would they be used if their filtration isn't all that great? And as far as racing goes, the company originally was founded and developed air filters for off-road motorcycle use, which is inherently dusty as well? Steve, AZ "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message news:6P2li.11194$Oc.285987@news1.epix.net... > Steve R. wrote: >> My point was that the K&N breathes better and collects finer particles >> which is essential out here in good ol dusty Arizona! > > Breathes better, yes; collects finer particles, no. It is pretty well > known that K&N sacrifices filter efficiency for airflow. Great for > racing, but not so good for a street vehicle that you want to have a long > life. > > Matt > |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27
(of course give or take a few.) "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:KFWki.7930$bz7.2058@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t... > > "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message > news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02... >> Why does the oil filter matter so much ? >> >> Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep >> Patriot. Any comments ?? > >>> I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the >>> salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how >>> long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. > > It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more. > Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After > about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was > new. > > As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy > one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow > that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it. > > What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a > note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same > model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting > properly. > |
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ET wrote: I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27 (of course give or take a few.)
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:KFWki.7930$bz7.2058@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net... "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02... Why does the oil filter matter so much ? Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. Any comments ?? I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more. Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was new. As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it. What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting properly. Hyundai USA also claims 19/24, NOT 27, that's the official EPA rating, just a rating for comparatively purposes. Also that same figure was printed in big letters in the window sticker of the car he drove off the dealer lot, so the OP cannot claim to be duped, unless he cannot read at all, what does not appears to be the case. |
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Steve R. wrote:
> Matt, > > I have to respectfully disagree with you. I might be opening a can of worms > here, which is not my intention. > > I have a brother (Air Force trained) rotary wing mechanic and saw their use > in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. on choppers, tanks, Humvees, etc. > > Why would they be used if their filtration isn't all that great? And as far > as racing goes, the company originally was founded and developed air filters > for off-road motorcycle use, which is inherently dusty as well? Well, there was this little incident in Iran a few years ago. Need I say more? Hey, it is your engine, you get to make the call. However, for me, I'll stick with a good paper filter. http://home.stny.rr.com/jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm Matt |
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"ET" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:op-dnYbgpObepwjbnZ2dnUVZ_t6qnZ2d@giganews.com... >I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27 >(of course give or take a few.) > Hyundaiusa.com lists the 4FD at 24 highay. Do you have the window sticker? |
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Correct, It was just stating that the dealer and Hyundai can't seem to even agree on what the correct rating is. Your right about the window sticker. Just too bad they both have their own thoughts instead of what's in print. But 18 MPG on a 2000 mile plus trip is not even close to 24. Nobody is saying they were "duped" as you put it. Read closer before you criticize
"Vic Garcia" <VicGar007@at-gmail.com> wrote in message news:46954804$0$14990$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... ET wrote: I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27 (of course give or take a few.) "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:KFWki.7930$bz7.2058@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t... "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02... Why does the oil filter matter so much ? Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. Any comments ?? I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more. Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was new. As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it. What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting properly. Hyundai USA also claims 19/24, NOT 27, that's the official EPA rating, just a rating for comparatively purposes. Also that same figure was printed in big letters in the window sticker of the car he drove off the dealer lot, so the OP cannot claim to be duped, unless he cannot read at all, what does not appears to be the case. |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
ET wrote:
Correct, It was just stating that the dealer and Hyundai can't seem to even agree on what the correct rating is. Your right about the window sticker. Just too bad they both have their own thoughts instead of what's in print. But 18 MPG on a 2000 mile plus trip is not even close to 24. Nobody is saying they were "duped" as you put it. Read closer before you criticize "Vic Garcia" <VicGar007@at-gmail.com> wrote in message news:46954804$0$14990$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... ET wrote: I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27 (of course give or take a few.) "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:KFWki.7930$bz7.2058@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net... "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02... Why does the oil filter matter so much ? Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. Any comments ?? I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more. Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was new. As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it. What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting properly. Hyundai USA also claims 19/24, NOT 27, that's the official EPA rating, just a rating for comparatively purposes. Also that same figure was printed in big letters in the window sticker of the car he drove off the dealer lot, so the OP cannot claim to be duped, unless he cannot read at all, what does not appears to be the case. I stand by my comment, it looks like you were the one that DID NOT read the post. You said: "I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27 (of course give or take a few.)" Were did you come with that 27 figure ?????, not from the Hyundai web site. I said: "Hyundai USA also claims 19/24, NOT 27, that's the official EPA rating" Just checked from the Hyundai web site. The OP was: "Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate highways. I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. Thanks " So he's getting 17.9 in town, close enough to the EPA figure of 19, the 24 is for highway. He's trip (during break-in) was 2000 miles hwy. 500 miles town, average was 18 mpg, so hwy was more then 18 mpg. |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
I don't recall the incident in which you refer to, however I do offer my
rebuttal: http://www.knfilters.com/filter_facts.htm It's ironic in the fact the AC Delco filter finished 1st in all categories, when considering the test vehicle was a Chevrolet....although the claim is made that the testing facility offered to perform all these tests for free? The machine was $285,000.... "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message news:RKcli.11199$Oc.288148@news1.epix.net... > Steve R. wrote: >> Matt, >> >> I have to respectfully disagree with you. I might be opening a can of >> worms here, which is not my intention. >> >> I have a brother (Air Force trained) rotary wing mechanic and saw their >> use in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. on choppers, tanks, Humvees, etc. >> >> Why would they be used if their filtration isn't all that great? And as >> far as racing goes, the company originally was founded and developed air >> filters for off-road motorcycle use, which is inherently dusty as well? > > Well, there was this little incident in Iran a few years ago. Need I say > more? > > Hey, it is your engine, you get to make the call. However, for me, I'll > stick with a good paper filter. > > http://home.stny.rr.com/jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm > > > Matt > |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
> GUEST wrote: > Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? > > I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I > just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips > and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate > highways. > > I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. > > I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the > salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long > till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. > > Thanks I do not understand why people buy SUVs. They are not economy cars. If you want gas milage, get a Prius. |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Steve R. wrote:
> I don't recall the incident in which you refer to, however I do offer my > rebuttal: > > http://www.knfilters.com/filter_facts.htm Interesting how they make no comparison tests of their filter to other filters. And how they use only "coarse" dirt in their testing. > It's ironic in the fact the AC Delco filter finished 1st in all categories, > when considering the test vehicle was a Chevrolet....although the claim is > made that the testing facility offered to perform all these tests for free? > The machine was $285,000.... The test wasn't performed by or commissioned by Chevrolet or Delco. It was performed by an owner of a Chevy and an owner of a Ford. I've seen other similar tests of K&N filters compared to OEM paper and the results are always the same. Like I said earlier, your car, your choice. Matt |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Steve R. wrote:
> I don't recall the incident in which you refer to, however I do offer my > rebuttal: Oh, I forgot to answer this in my last post. The incident was the failed rescue attempt of the Iran hostages. This mission had many problems, but one was that the helicopters couldn't handle the sand and dust... Matt |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Thanks for the opportunity to debate Matt. It's refreshing to hear one's
point of view. Steve "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message news:zQmli.11208$Oc.288718@news1.epix.net... > Steve R. wrote: >> I don't recall the incident in which you refer to, however I do offer my >> rebuttal: >> >> http://www.knfilters.com/filter_facts.htm > > Interesting how they make no comparison tests of their filter to other > filters. And how they use only "coarse" dirt in their testing. > > >> It's ironic in the fact the AC Delco filter finished 1st in all >> categories, when considering the test vehicle was a Chevrolet....although >> the claim is made that the testing facility offered to perform all these >> tests for free? The machine was $285,000.... > > The test wasn't performed by or commissioned by Chevrolet or Delco. It > was performed by an owner of a Chevy and an owner of a Ford. I've seen > other similar tests of K&N filters compared to OEM paper and the results > are always the same. > > Like I said earlier, your car, your choice. > > Matt > |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
The Awesome 1 wrote:
> On Jul 9, 7:47 pm, "news.verizon.net" <e...@i-2000.com> wrote: >> Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? >> >> I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I >> just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips >> and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate >> highways. >> >> I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. >> >> I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the >> salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long >> till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. >> >> Thanks > > My V6 FWD get 22 city & 32 Hwy. I use Marathon gas to get this great > mileage, as BP puts me at 17 city 26 hwy. I live on Cruise Control > too.......... > Not only are you a troll (see the other Tucson thread), but apparently you're a liar, too. Get lost! |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Steve R. wrote:
> Matt, > > I have to respectfully disagree with you. I might be opening a can of worms > here, which is not my intention. > > I have a brother (Air Force trained) rotary wing mechanic and saw their use > in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. on choppers, tanks, Humvees, etc. > > Why would they be used if their filtration isn't all that great? And as far > as racing goes, the company originally was founded and developed air filters > for off-road motorcycle use, which is inherently dusty as well? A couple of points: 1- K&N lies, period. All you have to have is a basic understanding of filtration and you'll realize that their claims are nonsense (I used to be in the filtration industry). Except for a few out-and-out scam sites, I've rarely seem more misleading or blatantly untrue information posted on a website. Based on that, I won't trust them at all. 2- The military has their own specs for the products they buy and there in not necessarily ANY correlation between products supplied to the military and consumer products from the same company, ANY company. 3- Racing applications are essentially meaningless too, as racing engines only have to survive for the length of a race, or at most between frequent rebuilds. Their main concern is horsepower output, not longevity. That's quite different from an engine that's expected to last well over 100,000 miles without a rebuild in a typical car. 4- Every independent test of air filters I've seen has drawn the same conclusion: K&N filters improve airflow at the cost of a loss of filtration. As Matt said, it's your call. |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
I echo southluke's response. Why cry about mileage when you buy an SUV?
Look around the roads and imagine how much less fuel we would use if the SUV's of all sizes were off the road. "southluke" <luke.l.talley@boeing-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message news:6s6dnfpUirCuJAjbnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@giganews.com ... > > > GUEST wrote: > > Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? > > > > I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 > mpg. I > > just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips > > and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is > interstate > > highways. > > > > I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to > 17.9. > > > > I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but > the > > salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I > questioned how long > > till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. > > > > Thanks > > I do not understand why people buy SUVs. They are > not economy cars. If you want gas milage, get a Prius. > |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
The K&N filters do help airflow but beware of overoiling the filter when you
clean it. The oil vapors will destroy your mass airflow sensor. Also, It really shouldn't impact fuel economy because the fuel/air mixture is set by the computer. If air flows in more easily through your filter, the computer will still adjust to the same mixture. The K&N's are great for older cars before computers but do nothing for newer models, IMHO. Tom "Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:VnTki.11837$ya1.6957@news02.roc.ny... > As much of the groups has posted, no way. However, cruise control and a K > & N filter allows my 06 Sonata LX to near if not go over the EPA stated > mileage. I pulled 31.7 the other day on a required trip to my Corporate HQ > in Las Vegas. I've seen 32 on my trips to Tucson, AZ > > Steve, AZ > > > > "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message > news:POzki.3407$lY4.1781@trndny07... >> Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? >> >> I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I >> just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips >> and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is >> interstate highways. >> >> I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. >> >> I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the >> salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long >> till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. >> >> Thanks >> > > > |
Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Many of the Jeep's have absolutely horrible mileage. The Jeep Liberty was
really, really bad. My boss had one as a company car and was lucky to get 15 mpg. "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02... > Why does the oil filter matter so much ? > > Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. > Any comments ?? > > Thanks > > > "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message > news:POzki.3407$lY4.1781@trndny07... >> Anyone having any issues with the mileage ? >> >> I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I >> just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips >> and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is >> interstate highways. >> >> I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9. >> >> I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the >> salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long >> till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know. >> >> Thanks > |
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