2007 Tuscon Mileage
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
My point was that the K&N breathes better and collects finer particles which
is essential out here in good ol dusty Arizona!
Steve
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> "Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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>> Air Filter, sorry for the confusion...
>>
>
> Restricted or dirty air filters can cut mileage, but not in 2000 miles
> that I'm aware of.
>
>
is essential out here in good ol dusty Arizona!
Steve
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>> Air Filter, sorry for the confusion...
>>
>
> Restricted or dirty air filters can cut mileage, but not in 2000 miles
> that I'm aware of.
>
>
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
"Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in
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> Eric,
>
> I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny. Rented
> a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I kept
> thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you REALLY need
> that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident?
>
> Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style
> tranny!
>
> Steve
Steve, I personally have only driven a very early example of a CVT. I
can't even remember what car that was on, but it just plain sucked then. I
have been reading that they have improved immensely since then. Even Car
and Driver doesn't bitch about them too much any more. But it definitely
is a different experience. On the Patriot the RPM's run up to about 3500
and just hang there under "normal" acceleration. It still seems like a
"gimmick" to me. My personal preference would still be a good old slushbox
with, oh, maybe 6 or 7 gears. But sadly I am stuck in AT world with my
wife being a shift-dweeb!! But the Hyundai AT is pretty damned good in
most cases, although it is a little slow to downshift at times.
Eric
news:_QXki.11919$B25.6858@news01.roc.ny:
> Eric,
>
> I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny. Rented
> a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I kept
> thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you REALLY need
> that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident?
>
> Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style
> tranny!
>
> Steve
Steve, I personally have only driven a very early example of a CVT. I
can't even remember what car that was on, but it just plain sucked then. I
have been reading that they have improved immensely since then. Even Car
and Driver doesn't bitch about them too much any more. But it definitely
is a different experience. On the Patriot the RPM's run up to about 3500
and just hang there under "normal" acceleration. It still seems like a
"gimmick" to me. My personal preference would still be a good old slushbox
with, oh, maybe 6 or 7 gears. But sadly I am stuck in AT world with my
wife being a shift-dweeb!! But the Hyundai AT is pretty damned good in
most cases, although it is a little slow to downshift at times.
Eric
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
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> Eric G. wrote:
>> "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in news:TOUki.13694$t05.3920
>> @trndny09:
>>
>>> Very interested, why ??
>>> Thank You
>>> Joe
>>
>> He can't stand the ride. The gas mileage is worse than he thought.
>> He does nothing but complain about how over-priced they are for what
>> you get. It has also been in the shop twice now for extended
>> periods, but for the life of me I can't recall exactly why. I will
>> ask tomorrow.
>>
>> He also regrets getting the CVT (with the creeper gear) because he
>> says it just feels "weird".
>>
>> These are all pretty much things that he should have noticed on a
>> test drive. If you are aware of them you can either accept them or
>> look elsewhere.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>
> You can get an accurate MPG on a test drive? You must take VERY long
> test drives. :-)
>
> Matt
OK, Mr. Nit-Picker :-P EXCEPT FOR THE MILEAGE, these are all pretty
much things that he should have noticed on a test drive. If you are
aware of them you can either accept them or look elsewhere.
Eric
news:N9Xki.11189$Oc.284773@news1.epix.net:
> Eric G. wrote:
>> "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in news:TOUki.13694$t05.3920
>> @trndny09:
>>
>>> Very interested, why ??
>>> Thank You
>>> Joe
>>
>> He can't stand the ride. The gas mileage is worse than he thought.
>> He does nothing but complain about how over-priced they are for what
>> you get. It has also been in the shop twice now for extended
>> periods, but for the life of me I can't recall exactly why. I will
>> ask tomorrow.
>>
>> He also regrets getting the CVT (with the creeper gear) because he
>> says it just feels "weird".
>>
>> These are all pretty much things that he should have noticed on a
>> test drive. If you are aware of them you can either accept them or
>> look elsewhere.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>
> You can get an accurate MPG on a test drive? You must take VERY long
> test drives. :-)
>
> Matt
OK, Mr. Nit-Picker :-P EXCEPT FOR THE MILEAGE, these are all pretty
much things that he should have noticed on a test drive. If you are
aware of them you can either accept them or look elsewhere.
Eric
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Eric G. wrote:
> "Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in
> news:_QXki.11919$B25.6858@news01.roc.ny:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny. Rented
>> a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I kept
>> thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you REALLY need
>> that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident?
>>
>> Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style
>> tranny!
>>
>> Steve
>
> Steve, I personally have only driven a very early example of a CVT. I
> can't even remember what car that was on, but it just plain sucked then. I
> have been reading that they have improved immensely since then. Even Car
> and Driver doesn't bitch about them too much any more. But it definitely
> is a different experience. On the Patriot the RPM's run up to about 3500
> and just hang there under "normal" acceleration. It still seems like a
> "gimmick" to me.
Why a gimmick? Having an IC engine run at its torque peak RPM
constantly is the best way to maximize acceleration and efficiency,
assuming that the CVT itself has no more loss than does an AT. This is
the next best thing to an electric motor which makes 100% of its torque
at zero RPM.
Matt
> "Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in
> news:_QXki.11919$B25.6858@news01.roc.ny:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny. Rented
>> a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I kept
>> thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you REALLY need
>> that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident?
>>
>> Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style
>> tranny!
>>
>> Steve
>
> Steve, I personally have only driven a very early example of a CVT. I
> can't even remember what car that was on, but it just plain sucked then. I
> have been reading that they have improved immensely since then. Even Car
> and Driver doesn't bitch about them too much any more. But it definitely
> is a different experience. On the Patriot the RPM's run up to about 3500
> and just hang there under "normal" acceleration. It still seems like a
> "gimmick" to me.
Why a gimmick? Having an IC engine run at its torque peak RPM
constantly is the best way to maximize acceleration and efficiency,
assuming that the CVT itself has no more loss than does an AT. This is
the next best thing to an electric motor which makes 100% of its torque
at zero RPM.
Matt
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Steve R. wrote:
> My point was that the K&N breathes better and collects finer particles which
> is essential out here in good ol dusty Arizona!
Breathes better, yes; collects finer particles, no. It is pretty well
known that K&N sacrifices filter efficiency for airflow. Great for
racing, but not so good for a street vehicle that you want to have a
long life.
Matt
> My point was that the K&N breathes better and collects finer particles which
> is essential out here in good ol dusty Arizona!
Breathes better, yes; collects finer particles, no. It is pretty well
known that K&N sacrifices filter efficiency for airflow. Great for
racing, but not so good for a street vehicle that you want to have a
long life.
Matt
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
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> Eric G. wrote:
>> "Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in
>> news:_QXki.11919$B25.6858@news01.roc.ny:
>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny.
>>> Rented a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I
>>> kept thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you
>>> REALLY need that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident?
>>>
>>> Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style
>>> tranny!
>>>
>>> Steve
>>
>> Steve, I personally have only driven a very early example of a CVT.
>> I can't even remember what car that was on, but it just plain sucked
>> then. I have been reading that they have improved immensely since
>> then. Even Car and Driver doesn't bitch about them too much any
>> more. But it definitely is a different experience. On the Patriot
>> the RPM's run up to about 3500 and just hang there under "normal"
>> acceleration. It still seems like a "gimmick" to me.
>
> Why a gimmick? Having an IC engine run at its torque peak RPM
> constantly is the best way to maximize acceleration and efficiency,
> assuming that the CVT itself has no more loss than does an AT. This
> is the next best thing to an electric motor which makes 100% of its
> torque at zero RPM.
>
> Matt
I'm not arguing the physics and mechanics behind it. It just feels
gimmicky when you drive it.
Eric
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> Eric G. wrote:
>> "Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in
>> news:_QXki.11919$B25.6858@news01.roc.ny:
>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny.
>>> Rented a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I
>>> kept thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you
>>> REALLY need that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident?
>>>
>>> Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style
>>> tranny!
>>>
>>> Steve
>>
>> Steve, I personally have only driven a very early example of a CVT.
>> I can't even remember what car that was on, but it just plain sucked
>> then. I have been reading that they have improved immensely since
>> then. Even Car and Driver doesn't bitch about them too much any
>> more. But it definitely is a different experience. On the Patriot
>> the RPM's run up to about 3500 and just hang there under "normal"
>> acceleration. It still seems like a "gimmick" to me.
>
> Why a gimmick? Having an IC engine run at its torque peak RPM
> constantly is the best way to maximize acceleration and efficiency,
> assuming that the CVT itself has no more loss than does an AT. This
> is the next best thing to an electric motor which makes 100% of its
> torque at zero RPM.
>
> Matt
I'm not arguing the physics and mechanics behind it. It just feels
gimmicky when you drive it.
Eric
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Agreed. I wish my 06 Sonata had a 5/6 speed manual. Less maintenance too!
The CVTs are just too weird for me. Kept waiting for pushrods to come
through the hood!!!
Steve
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> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
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>
>> Eric G. wrote:
>>> "Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in
>>> news:_QXki.11919$B25.6858@news01.roc.ny:
>>>
>>>> Eric,
>>>>
>>>> I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny.
>>>> Rented a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I
>>>> kept thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you
>>>> REALLY need that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident?
>>>>
>>>> Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style
>>>> tranny!
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Steve, I personally have only driven a very early example of a CVT.
>>> I can't even remember what car that was on, but it just plain sucked
>>> then. I have been reading that they have improved immensely since
>>> then. Even Car and Driver doesn't bitch about them too much any
>>> more. But it definitely is a different experience. On the Patriot
>>> the RPM's run up to about 3500 and just hang there under "normal"
>>> acceleration. It still seems like a "gimmick" to me.
>>
>> Why a gimmick? Having an IC engine run at its torque peak RPM
>> constantly is the best way to maximize acceleration and efficiency,
>> assuming that the CVT itself has no more loss than does an AT. This
>> is the next best thing to an electric motor which makes 100% of its
>> torque at zero RPM.
>>
>> Matt
>
> I'm not arguing the physics and mechanics behind it. It just feels
> gimmicky when you drive it.
>
> Eric
>
>
The CVTs are just too weird for me. Kept waiting for pushrods to come
through the hood!!!
Steve
"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
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> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:aO2li.11193$Oc.285988@news1.epix.net:
>
>> Eric G. wrote:
>>> "Steve R." <sarinaz@frontiernet.net> wrote in
>>> news:_QXki.11919$B25.6858@news01.roc.ny:
>>>
>>>> Eric,
>>>>
>>>> I have to agree with you and your friend about that CVT tranny.
>>>> Rented a Caliber on my last business trip to NM, it was weird. I
>>>> kept thinking, "The clutch is slipping". What happens when you
>>>> REALLY need that additional gear; i.e. avoiding an accident?
>>>>
>>>> Nothing like my old snowmobile or Polaris Quad with the same style
>>>> tranny!
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Steve, I personally have only driven a very early example of a CVT.
>>> I can't even remember what car that was on, but it just plain sucked
>>> then. I have been reading that they have improved immensely since
>>> then. Even Car and Driver doesn't bitch about them too much any
>>> more. But it definitely is a different experience. On the Patriot
>>> the RPM's run up to about 3500 and just hang there under "normal"
>>> acceleration. It still seems like a "gimmick" to me.
>>
>> Why a gimmick? Having an IC engine run at its torque peak RPM
>> constantly is the best way to maximize acceleration and efficiency,
>> assuming that the CVT itself has no more loss than does an AT. This
>> is the next best thing to an electric motor which makes 100% of its
>> torque at zero RPM.
>>
>> Matt
>
> I'm not arguing the physics and mechanics behind it. It just feels
> gimmicky when you drive it.
>
> Eric
>
>
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
On Jul 9, 6:47 pm, "news.verizon.net" <e...@i-2000.com> wrote:
> Anyone having any issues with the mileage ?
>
> I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I
> just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips
> and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate
> highways.
>
> I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9.
>
> I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the
> salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long
> till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know.
>
> Thanks
Our '07 Tucson with v6 after 5000ish miles got 24-25 steady state
cruising on our last trip, far less in stop and go, right now we're
averaging around 19 mpg, and that's with the tires inflated +3 lbs and
steady feet. It ain't no Toyota. Save money up front, or save it
later, it's all a wash it seems.
> Anyone having any issues with the mileage ?
>
> I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I
> just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips
> and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate
> highways.
>
> I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9.
>
> I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the
> salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long
> till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know.
>
> Thanks
Our '07 Tucson with v6 after 5000ish miles got 24-25 steady state
cruising on our last trip, far less in stop and go, right now we're
averaging around 19 mpg, and that's with the tires inflated +3 lbs and
steady feet. It ain't no Toyota. Save money up front, or save it
later, it's all a wash it seems.
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Matt,
I have to respectfully disagree with you. I might be opening a can of worms
here, which is not my intention.
I have a brother (Air Force trained) rotary wing mechanic and saw their use
in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. on choppers, tanks, Humvees, etc.
Why would they be used if their filtration isn't all that great? And as far
as racing goes, the company originally was founded and developed air filters
for off-road motorcycle use, which is inherently dusty as well?
Steve, AZ
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Steve R. wrote:
>> My point was that the K&N breathes better and collects finer particles
>> which is essential out here in good ol dusty Arizona!
>
> Breathes better, yes; collects finer particles, no. It is pretty well
> known that K&N sacrifices filter efficiency for airflow. Great for
> racing, but not so good for a street vehicle that you want to have a long
> life.
>
> Matt
>
I have to respectfully disagree with you. I might be opening a can of worms
here, which is not my intention.
I have a brother (Air Force trained) rotary wing mechanic and saw their use
in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. on choppers, tanks, Humvees, etc.
Why would they be used if their filtration isn't all that great? And as far
as racing goes, the company originally was founded and developed air filters
for off-road motorcycle use, which is inherently dusty as well?
Steve, AZ
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:6P2li.11194$Oc.285987@news1.epix.net...
> Steve R. wrote:
>> My point was that the K&N breathes better and collects finer particles
>> which is essential out here in good ol dusty Arizona!
>
> Breathes better, yes; collects finer particles, no. It is pretty well
> known that K&N sacrifices filter efficiency for airflow. Great for
> racing, but not so good for a street vehicle that you want to have a long
> life.
>
> Matt
>
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27
(of course give or take a few.)
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>
> "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message
> news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02...
>> Why does the oil filter matter so much ?
>>
>> Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep
>> Patriot. Any comments ??
>
>>> I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the
>>> salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how
>>> long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know.
>
> It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more.
> Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After
> about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was
> new.
>
> As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy
> one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow
> that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it.
>
> What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a
> note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same
> model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting
> properly.
>
(of course give or take a few.)
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message
> news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02...
>> Why does the oil filter matter so much ?
>>
>> Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep
>> Patriot. Any comments ??
>
>>> I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the
>>> salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how
>>> long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know.
>
> It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more.
> Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After
> about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was
> new.
>
> As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy
> one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow
> that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it.
>
> What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a
> note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same
> model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting
> properly.
>
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
ET wrote: I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27 (of course give or take a few.)
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:KFWki.7930$bz7.2058@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
"news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02...
Why does the oil filter matter so much ?
Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. Any comments ??
I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know.
It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more. Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was new.
As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it.
What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting properly.
Hyundai USA also claims 19/24, NOT 27, that's the official EPA rating, just a rating for comparatively purposes.
Also that same figure was printed in big letters in the window sticker of the car he drove off the dealer lot, so the OP cannot claim to be duped, unless he cannot read at all, what does not appears to be the case.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:KFWki.7930$bz7.2058@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
"news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02...
Why does the oil filter matter so much ?
Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. Any comments ??
I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know.
It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more. Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was new.
As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it.
What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting properly.
Hyundai USA also claims 19/24, NOT 27, that's the official EPA rating, just a rating for comparatively purposes.
Also that same figure was printed in big letters in the window sticker of the car he drove off the dealer lot, so the OP cannot claim to be duped, unless he cannot read at all, what does not appears to be the case.
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Steve R. wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I have to respectfully disagree with you. I might be opening a can of worms
> here, which is not my intention.
>
> I have a brother (Air Force trained) rotary wing mechanic and saw their use
> in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. on choppers, tanks, Humvees, etc.
>
> Why would they be used if their filtration isn't all that great? And as far
> as racing goes, the company originally was founded and developed air filters
> for off-road motorcycle use, which is inherently dusty as well?
Well, there was this little incident in Iran a few years ago. Need I
say more?
Hey, it is your engine, you get to make the call. However, for me, I'll
stick with a good paper filter.
http://home.stny.rr.com/jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm
Matt
> Matt,
>
> I have to respectfully disagree with you. I might be opening a can of worms
> here, which is not my intention.
>
> I have a brother (Air Force trained) rotary wing mechanic and saw their use
> in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. on choppers, tanks, Humvees, etc.
>
> Why would they be used if their filtration isn't all that great? And as far
> as racing goes, the company originally was founded and developed air filters
> for off-road motorcycle use, which is inherently dusty as well?
Well, there was this little incident in Iran a few years ago. Need I
say more?
Hey, it is your engine, you get to make the call. However, for me, I'll
stick with a good paper filter.
http://home.stny.rr.com/jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm
Matt
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
"ET" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message
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>I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27
>(of course give or take a few.)
>
Hyundaiusa.com lists the 4FD at 24 highay. Do you have the window
sticker?
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
Correct, It was just stating that the dealer and Hyundai can't seem to even agree on what the correct rating is. Your right about the window sticker. Just too bad they both have their own thoughts instead of what's in print. But 18 MPG on a 2000 mile plus trip is not even close to 24. Nobody is saying they were "duped" as you put it. Read closer before you criticize
"Vic Garcia" <VicGar007@at-gmail.com> wrote in message news:46954804$0$14990$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
ET wrote:
I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27 (of course give or take a few.)
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:KFWki.7930$bz7.2058@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
"news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02...
Why does the oil filter matter so much ?
Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. Any comments ??
I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know.
It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more. Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was new.
As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it.
What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting properly.
Hyundai USA also claims 19/24, NOT 27, that's the official EPA rating, just a rating for comparatively purposes.
Also that same figure was printed in big letters in the window sticker of the car he drove off the dealer lot, so the OP cannot claim to be duped, unless he cannot read at all, what does not appears to be the case.
"Vic Garcia" <VicGar007@at-gmail.com> wrote in message news:46954804$0$14990$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
ET wrote:
I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27 (of course give or take a few.)
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:KFWki.7930$bz7.2058@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
"news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02...
Why does the oil filter matter so much ?
Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. Any comments ??
I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know.
It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more. Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was new.
As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it.
What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting properly.
Hyundai USA also claims 19/24, NOT 27, that's the official EPA rating, just a rating for comparatively purposes.
Also that same figure was printed in big letters in the window sticker of the car he drove off the dealer lot, so the OP cannot claim to be duped, unless he cannot read at all, what does not appears to be the case.
#30
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Re: 2007 Tuscon Mileage
ET wrote:
Correct, It was just stating that the dealer and Hyundai can't seem to even agree on what the correct rating is. Your right about the window sticker. Just too bad they both have their own thoughts instead of what's in print. But 18 MPG on a 2000 mile plus trip is not even close to 24. Nobody is saying they were "duped" as you put it. Read closer before you criticize
"Vic Garcia" <VicGar007@at-gmail.com> wrote in message news:46954804$0$14990$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
ET wrote: I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27 (of course give or take a few.)
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:KFWki.7930$bz7.2058@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
"news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02...
Why does the oil filter matter so much ?
Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. Any comments ??
I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know.
It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more. Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was new.
As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it.
What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting properly.
Hyundai USA also claims 19/24, NOT 27, that's the official EPA rating, just a rating for comparatively purposes.
Also that same figure was printed in big letters in the window sticker of the car he drove off the dealer lot, so the OP cannot claim to be duped, unless he cannot read at all, what does not appears to be the case.
I stand by my comment, it looks like you were the one that DID NOT read the post.
You said: "I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27 (of course give or take a few.)"
Were did you come with that 27 figure ?????, not from the Hyundai web site.
I said: "Hyundai USA also claims 19/24, NOT 27, that's the official EPA rating"
Just checked from the Hyundai web site.
The OP was: "Anyone having any issues with the mileage ?
I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips
and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate highways.
I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9.
I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know.
Thanks "
So he's getting 17.9 in town, close enough to the EPA figure of 19, the 24 is for highway.
He's trip (during break-in) was 2000 miles hwy. 500 miles town, average was 18 mpg, so hwy was more then 18 mpg.
Correct, It was just stating that the dealer and Hyundai can't seem to even agree on what the correct rating is. Your right about the window sticker. Just too bad they both have their own thoughts instead of what's in print. But 18 MPG on a 2000 mile plus trip is not even close to 24. Nobody is saying they were "duped" as you put it. Read closer before you criticize
"Vic Garcia" <VicGar007@at-gmail.com> wrote in message news:46954804$0$14990$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
ET wrote: I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27 (of course give or take a few.)
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:KFWki.7930$bz7.2058@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
"news.verizon.net" <et@i-2000.com> wrote in message news:TFUki.4404$qu5.635@trndny02...
Why does the oil filter matter so much ?
Also, I'm considering taking the loss ad trading it in for a Jeep Patriot. Any comments ??
I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know.
It is rated for 19/24 with 4WD so don't expect to ever see anything more. Most cars struggle to come within 80% to 85% of the EPS rating. After about 5000 miles on my Sonata, the MPG was up about 2 from when it was new.
As for the Patriot, I rode in one for about 20 miles once. I'd never buy one after that as it was uncomfortable and had a choppy ride. The fellow that bought it dumped in within the first six months he had it.
What you do want to do is be sure everything is working properly. Make a note of the rpm as a given speed and perhaps others here with the same model can compare just to be sure there is no slippage and it is shifting properly.
Hyundai USA also claims 19/24, NOT 27, that's the official EPA rating, just a rating for comparatively purposes.
Also that same figure was printed in big letters in the window sticker of the car he drove off the dealer lot, so the OP cannot claim to be duped, unless he cannot read at all, what does not appears to be the case.
I stand by my comment, it looks like you were the one that DID NOT read the post.
You said: "I seem to get conflicting reports. The dealer says 24, Hyundai USA says 27 (of course give or take a few.)"
Were did you come with that 27 figure ?????, not from the Hyundai web site.
I said: "Hyundai USA also claims 19/24, NOT 27, that's the official EPA rating"
Just checked from the Hyundai web site.
The OP was: "Anyone having any issues with the mileage ?
I just bought a 2007 Tucson 4wd 2.7L and started with around 13 mpg. I just drove from new York to Chicago round trip plus some side trips
and it went up to 18 mpg. Total mileage 2500. 2000 of which is interstate highways.
I'm home 1 day now and driving around town it's already down to 17.9.
I called the dealer and I'll be bringing it in this week, but the salesman started with the " break-in period" . When I questioned how long till I see the rated 28 or so highway, he didn't know.
Thanks "
So he's getting 17.9 in town, close enough to the EPA figure of 19, the 24 is for highway.
He's trip (during break-in) was 2000 miles hwy. 500 miles town, average was 18 mpg, so hwy was more then 18 mpg.