Bob

Hello,

First, thanks to all for all the very good info from my previous posts.
Appreciate it very much.

Any idea when the new model 2011 will start appearing ?

Thanks,
Bob

Voyager

Bob wrote:
> Hello,
>
> First, thanks to all for all the very good info from my previous posts.
> Appreciate it very much.
>
> Any idea when the new model 2011 will start appearing ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob

My dealer already has what looked like a 2011 Sonata. I didn't get up
close to it as it was in the garage undergoing, I'm surmising, dealer
prep. It did look better in person than in the pictures, but it is
going to take some getting used to.

It looks like the visibility will be much poorer than my 2006, but then
almost all new cars seem to have visibility that sucks. I guess
everyone is copying the "gangster" look that Chrysler started with the 300.

I much prefer a lower beltline and taller windows than appears to now be
in vogue on new cars.

Matt

Clive

In message <0O%cn.70711$RS6.975@newsfe15.iad>, Voyager
<m.whiting@computer.org> writes
>I much prefer a lower beltline and taller windows than appears to now
>be in vogue on new cars.
I would suspect that the "lower windows" is part of the design to reduce
drag, therefore increasing mpg.
--
Clive

Ed Pawlowski

"Clive" <Clive@yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:r9pxYoMudMdLFwZo@yewbank.demon.co.uk...
> In message <0O%cn.70711$RS6.975@newsfe15.iad>, Voyager
> <m.whiting@computer.org> writes
>>I much prefer a lower beltline and taller windows than appears to now be
>>in vogue on new cars.
> I would suspect that the "lower windows" is part of the design to reduce
> drag, therefore increasing mpg.
> --
> Clive
>

It also has to do with side impact crash standards. It is easier to put the
needed strength in the higher doors. I've not been in one of the Chrysler
cars, but to me, they look ugly with the short windows

Voyager

Clive wrote:
> In message <0O%cn.70711$RS6.975@newsfe15.iad>, Voyager
> <m.whiting@computer.org> writes
>> I much prefer a lower beltline and taller windows than appears to now
>> be in vogue on new cars.
> I would suspect that the "lower windows" is part of the design to reduce
> drag, therefore increasing mpg.

I don't think so as the overall height of the cars isn't much if any
less, it is just that the beltline is higher now.

Matt

Voyager

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>
> "Clive" <Clive@yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:r9pxYoMudMdLFwZo@yewbank.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <0O%cn.70711$RS6.975@newsfe15.iad>, Voyager
>> <m.whiting@computer.org> writes
>>> I much prefer a lower beltline and taller windows than appears to now
>>> be in vogue on new cars.
>> I would suspect that the "lower windows" is part of the design to
>> reduce drag, therefore increasing mpg.
>> --
>> Clive
>>
>
> It also has to do with side impact crash standards. It is easier to put
> the needed strength in the higher doors. I've not been in one of the
> Chrysler cars, but to me, they look ugly with the short windows

Yes, I suspect that is one of the reasons, but I think simply style is
the other. I think almost all of the cars with the short windows look
ugly, although the cars like the Camaro and Challenger look OK that way.
The new Hyundai isn't as ugly as the Chrysler, but it sure has shorter
windows than my 06, at least judging from a distance.

Matt

John

Probably be the opposite to you blokes in the USA but in Australia I find
smaller windows let in less heat. Prefer the larger window looks but harder
on the ventilation/aircon
John

Voyager

John wrote:
> Probably be the opposite to you blokes in the USA but in Australia I find
> smaller windows let in less heat. Prefer the larger window looks but harder
> on the ventilation/aircon
> John
>
>

This could certainly be a concern for parts of the US, however, often
heavily tinted windows are the solution to that problem.

Matt

Ed Pawlowski

"Voyager" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
news:abpdn.50394$zN4.28474@newsfe05.iad...
> John wrote:
>> Probably be the opposite to you blokes in the USA but in Australia I find
>> smaller windows let in less heat. Prefer the larger window looks but
>> harder on the ventilation/aircon
>> John
>
> This could certainly be a concern for parts of the US, however, often
> heavily tinted windows are the solution to that problem.
>
> Matt

The color of the car makes quite a difference too. My silver blue was much
cooler in the summer than the two previous cars, a dark green and burgundy
one. In the southwest, white is a very common color. I've never had a
black car, nor do I want one. Present car is dark cherry. Sure shows the
dirt more too.

As for tint, some states do have restriction on the front windows as to how
dark they can be. Police want to be able to see you and be sure you have no
weapons.

Clive

In message <SaydndtLvLmtvOvWnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Ed Pawlowski
<esp@snetnospam.net> writes
>As for tint, some states do have restriction on the front windows as to
>how dark they can be. Police want to be able to see you and be sure
>you have no weapons.
In the UK, it's illegal to have either windscreen or front door windows
tinted.
--
Clive