87 octane '06 Sonata
01-25-2006, 04:40 PM
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Re: 87 octane '06 Sonata
Rob wrote:
> I have noticed a slight valve chatter with regular gas. It goes away with
> mid-level grade gas. Anyone else notice this. '06 Sonata LX (V6)
>
I don't think fuel octane can have any bearing on the valve train. What
you are hearing typically is detonation, commonly called "pinging."
Typically, this will increase with more throttle at a given speed or at
lower RPMs (lugging).
I have the 4 cylinder engine, but I have not noticed any problem as yet
on standard 87 octane. Have you tried a different brand of fuel? I've
found that not all brands are equal with regard to resistance to detonation.
Matt
> I have noticed a slight valve chatter with regular gas. It goes away with
> mid-level grade gas. Anyone else notice this. '06 Sonata LX (V6)
>
I don't think fuel octane can have any bearing on the valve train. What
you are hearing typically is detonation, commonly called "pinging."
Typically, this will increase with more throttle at a given speed or at
lower RPMs (lugging).
I have the 4 cylinder engine, but I have not noticed any problem as yet
on standard 87 octane. Have you tried a different brand of fuel? I've
found that not all brands are equal with regard to resistance to detonation.
Matt
01-25-2006, 04:40 PM
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Re: 87 octane '06 Sonata
Rob wrote:
> I have noticed a slight valve chatter with regular gas. It goes away with
> mid-level grade gas. Anyone else notice this. '06 Sonata LX (V6)
>
I don't think fuel octane can have any bearing on the valve train. What
you are hearing typically is detonation, commonly called "pinging."
Typically, this will increase with more throttle at a given speed or at
lower RPMs (lugging).
I have the 4 cylinder engine, but I have not noticed any problem as yet
on standard 87 octane. Have you tried a different brand of fuel? I've
found that not all brands are equal with regard to resistance to detonation.
Matt
> I have noticed a slight valve chatter with regular gas. It goes away with
> mid-level grade gas. Anyone else notice this. '06 Sonata LX (V6)
>
I don't think fuel octane can have any bearing on the valve train. What
you are hearing typically is detonation, commonly called "pinging."
Typically, this will increase with more throttle at a given speed or at
lower RPMs (lugging).
I have the 4 cylinder engine, but I have not noticed any problem as yet
on standard 87 octane. Have you tried a different brand of fuel? I've
found that not all brands are equal with regard to resistance to detonation.
Matt
01-25-2006, 04:40 PM
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Re: 87 octane '06 Sonata
Rob wrote:
> I have noticed a slight valve chatter with regular gas. It goes away with
> mid-level grade gas. Anyone else notice this. '06 Sonata LX (V6)
>
I don't think fuel octane can have any bearing on the valve train. What
you are hearing typically is detonation, commonly called "pinging."
Typically, this will increase with more throttle at a given speed or at
lower RPMs (lugging).
I have the 4 cylinder engine, but I have not noticed any problem as yet
on standard 87 octane. Have you tried a different brand of fuel? I've
found that not all brands are equal with regard to resistance to detonation.
Matt
> I have noticed a slight valve chatter with regular gas. It goes away with
> mid-level grade gas. Anyone else notice this. '06 Sonata LX (V6)
>
I don't think fuel octane can have any bearing on the valve train. What
you are hearing typically is detonation, commonly called "pinging."
Typically, this will increase with more throttle at a given speed or at
lower RPMs (lugging).
I have the 4 cylinder engine, but I have not noticed any problem as yet
on standard 87 octane. Have you tried a different brand of fuel? I've
found that not all brands are equal with regard to resistance to detonation.
Matt
01-25-2006, 06:16 PM
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Re: 87 octane '06 Sonata
I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack) They
all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just Hyundai says
87.
Rob
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Rob wrote:
>
>> I have noticed a slight valve chatter with regular gas. It goes away
>> with mid-level grade gas. Anyone else notice this. '06 Sonata LX (V6)
>>
>
> I don't think fuel octane can have any bearing on the valve train. What
> you are hearing typically is detonation, commonly called "pinging."
> Typically, this will increase with more throttle at a given speed or at
> lower RPMs (lugging).
>
> I have the 4 cylinder engine, but I have not noticed any problem as yet on
> standard 87 octane. Have you tried a different brand of fuel? I've found
> that not all brands are equal with regard to resistance to detonation.
>
>
> Matt
all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just Hyundai says
87.
Rob
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Rob wrote:
>
>> I have noticed a slight valve chatter with regular gas. It goes away
>> with mid-level grade gas. Anyone else notice this. '06 Sonata LX (V6)
>>
>
> I don't think fuel octane can have any bearing on the valve train. What
> you are hearing typically is detonation, commonly called "pinging."
> Typically, this will increase with more throttle at a given speed or at
> lower RPMs (lugging).
>
> I have the 4 cylinder engine, but I have not noticed any problem as yet on
> standard 87 octane. Have you tried a different brand of fuel? I've found
> that not all brands are equal with regard to resistance to detonation.
>
>
> Matt
01-25-2006, 06:16 PM
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Re: 87 octane '06 Sonata
I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack) They
all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just Hyundai says
87.
Rob
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:YeSBf.5543$lb.480036@news1.epix.net...
> Rob wrote:
>
>> I have noticed a slight valve chatter with regular gas. It goes away
>> with mid-level grade gas. Anyone else notice this. '06 Sonata LX (V6)
>>
>
> I don't think fuel octane can have any bearing on the valve train. What
> you are hearing typically is detonation, commonly called "pinging."
> Typically, this will increase with more throttle at a given speed or at
> lower RPMs (lugging).
>
> I have the 4 cylinder engine, but I have not noticed any problem as yet on
> standard 87 octane. Have you tried a different brand of fuel? I've found
> that not all brands are equal with regard to resistance to detonation.
>
>
> Matt
all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just Hyundai says
87.
Rob
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Rob wrote:
>
>> I have noticed a slight valve chatter with regular gas. It goes away
>> with mid-level grade gas. Anyone else notice this. '06 Sonata LX (V6)
>>
>
> I don't think fuel octane can have any bearing on the valve train. What
> you are hearing typically is detonation, commonly called "pinging."
> Typically, this will increase with more throttle at a given speed or at
> lower RPMs (lugging).
>
> I have the 4 cylinder engine, but I have not noticed any problem as yet on
> standard 87 octane. Have you tried a different brand of fuel? I've found
> that not all brands are equal with regard to resistance to detonation.
>
>
> Matt
01-25-2006, 06:16 PM
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Re: 87 octane '06 Sonata
I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack) They
all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just Hyundai says
87.
Rob
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Rob wrote:
>
>> I have noticed a slight valve chatter with regular gas. It goes away
>> with mid-level grade gas. Anyone else notice this. '06 Sonata LX (V6)
>>
>
> I don't think fuel octane can have any bearing on the valve train. What
> you are hearing typically is detonation, commonly called "pinging."
> Typically, this will increase with more throttle at a given speed or at
> lower RPMs (lugging).
>
> I have the 4 cylinder engine, but I have not noticed any problem as yet on
> standard 87 octane. Have you tried a different brand of fuel? I've found
> that not all brands are equal with regard to resistance to detonation.
>
>
> Matt
all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just Hyundai says
87.
Rob
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:YeSBf.5543$lb.480036@news1.epix.net...
> Rob wrote:
>
>> I have noticed a slight valve chatter with regular gas. It goes away
>> with mid-level grade gas. Anyone else notice this. '06 Sonata LX (V6)
>>
>
> I don't think fuel octane can have any bearing on the valve train. What
> you are hearing typically is detonation, commonly called "pinging."
> Typically, this will increase with more throttle at a given speed or at
> lower RPMs (lugging).
>
> I have the 4 cylinder engine, but I have not noticed any problem as yet on
> standard 87 octane. Have you tried a different brand of fuel? I've found
> that not all brands are equal with regard to resistance to detonation.
>
>
> Matt
01-25-2006, 06:51 PM
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Re: 87 octane '06 Sonata
Rob wrote:
> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack) They
> all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just Hyundai says
> 87.
Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying
my I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right,
however, pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't
been above 45 since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
Matt
> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack) They
> all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just Hyundai says
> 87.
Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying
my I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right,
however, pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't
been above 45 since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
Matt
01-25-2006, 06:51 PM
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Re: 87 octane '06 Sonata
Rob wrote:
> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack) They
> all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just Hyundai says
> 87.
Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying
my I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right,
however, pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't
been above 45 since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
Matt
> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack) They
> all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just Hyundai says
> 87.
Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying
my I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right,
however, pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't
been above 45 since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
Matt
01-25-2006, 06:51 PM
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Re: 87 octane '06 Sonata
Rob wrote:
> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack) They
> all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just Hyundai says
> 87.
Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying
my I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right,
however, pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't
been above 45 since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
Matt
> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack) They
> all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just Hyundai says
> 87.
Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying
my I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right,
however, pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't
been above 45 since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
Matt
01-25-2006, 09:18 PM
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Re: 87 octane '06 Sonata
I think you guys need to move to the Midwest (NOT necessarily into a big
city like Chicago, either).
In the Midwest, because of ethanol subsidies, 89 fuel is actually cheaper
than 87, especially in states like Iowa and Illinois. I run all my vehicles
on 89 out here. When I drive outside the midwest, they all run on 87 just
fine.
In the Midwest, no dealer would be allowed to treat their customers the way
some of you are treated at some of your dealerships. Since even Toyota and
Honda still fight for recognition in these parts, you can be sure that
customers for nameplates like Hyundai and Kia are going to be treated like
kings and queens. Indeed, we would make sure these people would not even
eat if they didn't (and some have not).
On the subject, a little light pinging apparently is not bad for a vehicle,
and General Motors even claims it is preferable, giving you the "greatest
efficiency" for your fuel. Heavy, consistent pinging, especially under
acceleration IS a concern.
Of even greater concern would be that, in my experience, these things tend
to get worse in time. Indeed, some vehicles that ran just fine on 87 when
they were new, ended up having to run on straight premium in the last years
before I junked them (yes, I kept them tuned and in good, running order).
This is something to be watched carefully through the years.
Tom Wenndt
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Rob wrote:
>
>> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack)
>> They all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just
>> Hyundai says 87.
>
> Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
> over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying my
> I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right, however,
> pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't been above 45
> since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
>
>
> Matt
city like Chicago, either).
In the Midwest, because of ethanol subsidies, 89 fuel is actually cheaper
than 87, especially in states like Iowa and Illinois. I run all my vehicles
on 89 out here. When I drive outside the midwest, they all run on 87 just
fine.
In the Midwest, no dealer would be allowed to treat their customers the way
some of you are treated at some of your dealerships. Since even Toyota and
Honda still fight for recognition in these parts, you can be sure that
customers for nameplates like Hyundai and Kia are going to be treated like
kings and queens. Indeed, we would make sure these people would not even
eat if they didn't (and some have not).
On the subject, a little light pinging apparently is not bad for a vehicle,
and General Motors even claims it is preferable, giving you the "greatest
efficiency" for your fuel. Heavy, consistent pinging, especially under
acceleration IS a concern.
Of even greater concern would be that, in my experience, these things tend
to get worse in time. Indeed, some vehicles that ran just fine on 87 when
they were new, ended up having to run on straight premium in the last years
before I junked them (yes, I kept them tuned and in good, running order).
This is something to be watched carefully through the years.
Tom Wenndt
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:_9UBf.5550$lb.480874@news1.epix.net...
> Rob wrote:
>
>> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack)
>> They all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just
>> Hyundai says 87.
>
> Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
> over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying my
> I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right, however,
> pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't been above 45
> since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
>
>
> Matt
01-25-2006, 09:18 PM
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Re: 87 octane '06 Sonata
I think you guys need to move to the Midwest (NOT necessarily into a big
city like Chicago, either).
In the Midwest, because of ethanol subsidies, 89 fuel is actually cheaper
than 87, especially in states like Iowa and Illinois. I run all my vehicles
on 89 out here. When I drive outside the midwest, they all run on 87 just
fine.
In the Midwest, no dealer would be allowed to treat their customers the way
some of you are treated at some of your dealerships. Since even Toyota and
Honda still fight for recognition in these parts, you can be sure that
customers for nameplates like Hyundai and Kia are going to be treated like
kings and queens. Indeed, we would make sure these people would not even
eat if they didn't (and some have not).
On the subject, a little light pinging apparently is not bad for a vehicle,
and General Motors even claims it is preferable, giving you the "greatest
efficiency" for your fuel. Heavy, consistent pinging, especially under
acceleration IS a concern.
Of even greater concern would be that, in my experience, these things tend
to get worse in time. Indeed, some vehicles that ran just fine on 87 when
they were new, ended up having to run on straight premium in the last years
before I junked them (yes, I kept them tuned and in good, running order).
This is something to be watched carefully through the years.
Tom Wenndt
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:_9UBf.5550$lb.480874@news1.epix.net...
> Rob wrote:
>
>> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack)
>> They all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just
>> Hyundai says 87.
>
> Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
> over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying my
> I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right, however,
> pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't been above 45
> since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
>
>
> Matt
city like Chicago, either).
In the Midwest, because of ethanol subsidies, 89 fuel is actually cheaper
than 87, especially in states like Iowa and Illinois. I run all my vehicles
on 89 out here. When I drive outside the midwest, they all run on 87 just
fine.
In the Midwest, no dealer would be allowed to treat their customers the way
some of you are treated at some of your dealerships. Since even Toyota and
Honda still fight for recognition in these parts, you can be sure that
customers for nameplates like Hyundai and Kia are going to be treated like
kings and queens. Indeed, we would make sure these people would not even
eat if they didn't (and some have not).
On the subject, a little light pinging apparently is not bad for a vehicle,
and General Motors even claims it is preferable, giving you the "greatest
efficiency" for your fuel. Heavy, consistent pinging, especially under
acceleration IS a concern.
Of even greater concern would be that, in my experience, these things tend
to get worse in time. Indeed, some vehicles that ran just fine on 87 when
they were new, ended up having to run on straight premium in the last years
before I junked them (yes, I kept them tuned and in good, running order).
This is something to be watched carefully through the years.
Tom Wenndt
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:_9UBf.5550$lb.480874@news1.epix.net...
> Rob wrote:
>
>> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack)
>> They all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just
>> Hyundai says 87.
>
> Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
> over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying my
> I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right, however,
> pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't been above 45
> since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
>
>
> Matt
01-25-2006, 09:18 PM
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Re: 87 octane '06 Sonata
I think you guys need to move to the Midwest (NOT necessarily into a big
city like Chicago, either).
In the Midwest, because of ethanol subsidies, 89 fuel is actually cheaper
than 87, especially in states like Iowa and Illinois. I run all my vehicles
on 89 out here. When I drive outside the midwest, they all run on 87 just
fine.
In the Midwest, no dealer would be allowed to treat their customers the way
some of you are treated at some of your dealerships. Since even Toyota and
Honda still fight for recognition in these parts, you can be sure that
customers for nameplates like Hyundai and Kia are going to be treated like
kings and queens. Indeed, we would make sure these people would not even
eat if they didn't (and some have not).
On the subject, a little light pinging apparently is not bad for a vehicle,
and General Motors even claims it is preferable, giving you the "greatest
efficiency" for your fuel. Heavy, consistent pinging, especially under
acceleration IS a concern.
Of even greater concern would be that, in my experience, these things tend
to get worse in time. Indeed, some vehicles that ran just fine on 87 when
they were new, ended up having to run on straight premium in the last years
before I junked them (yes, I kept them tuned and in good, running order).
This is something to be watched carefully through the years.
Tom Wenndt
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:_9UBf.5550$lb.480874@news1.epix.net...
> Rob wrote:
>
>> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack)
>> They all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just
>> Hyundai says 87.
>
> Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
> over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying my
> I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right, however,
> pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't been above 45
> since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
>
>
> Matt
city like Chicago, either).
In the Midwest, because of ethanol subsidies, 89 fuel is actually cheaper
than 87, especially in states like Iowa and Illinois. I run all my vehicles
on 89 out here. When I drive outside the midwest, they all run on 87 just
fine.
In the Midwest, no dealer would be allowed to treat their customers the way
some of you are treated at some of your dealerships. Since even Toyota and
Honda still fight for recognition in these parts, you can be sure that
customers for nameplates like Hyundai and Kia are going to be treated like
kings and queens. Indeed, we would make sure these people would not even
eat if they didn't (and some have not).
On the subject, a little light pinging apparently is not bad for a vehicle,
and General Motors even claims it is preferable, giving you the "greatest
efficiency" for your fuel. Heavy, consistent pinging, especially under
acceleration IS a concern.
Of even greater concern would be that, in my experience, these things tend
to get worse in time. Indeed, some vehicles that ran just fine on 87 when
they were new, ended up having to run on straight premium in the last years
before I junked them (yes, I kept them tuned and in good, running order).
This is something to be watched carefully through the years.
Tom Wenndt
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:_9UBf.5550$lb.480874@news1.epix.net...
> Rob wrote:
>
>> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack)
>> They all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just
>> Hyundai says 87.
>
> Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
> over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying my
> I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right, however,
> pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't been above 45
> since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
>
>
> Matt
01-25-2006, 11:52 PM
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Rob
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Rob wrote:
>
>> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack)
>> They all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just
>> Hyundai says 87.
>
> Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
> over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying my
> I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right, however,
> pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't been above 45
> since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
>
Florida here, summer all the time.
>
> Matt
01-25-2006, 11:52 PM
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Rob
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Rob wrote:
>
>> I stick to "name brand" stations. (BP, Chevron and sometimes Racetrack)
>> They all ping with 87 octane. Runs great on 89. No big deal its just
>> Hyundai says 87.
>
> Well, it does cost several cents more per gallon so it may be a big deal
> over time. I specifically asked the salesman about this before buying my
> I4 Sonata and he said 87 was fine. So far, he has been right, however,
> pinging typically occurs during warmer weather and it hasn't been above 45
> since I bought mine. July and August will be the test for me.
>
Florida here, summer all the time.
>
> Matt