Accent Timing Belt
#16
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Re: Accent Timing Belt
Jody, I just checked Hyundais web page and I found out the Accent can
not be found with a tilt steering wheel at any trim level. Not only
that but the only way the car can be had with ABS brakes would be the
most expensive trim level #4!
I'm not in the market for a car at this very moment but I'm sure in 3
years I'll want a subcompact for general use. As it stands, I will
NEVER and I mean NEVER drive a car without ABS brakes. Not a rental,
not a friends car, not a borrowed car. Even if I'm riding inside the
car as a passenger I wouldn't feel safe. ABS brakes have saved my life
numerous times. More than I can ever count. I've lived in busy metro
areas all my life and I can't tell you how many times I needed the ABS
brakes to stop. On one occasion on the highway we had snow. Some jerk
up ahead of the convoy hit the brakes to make a last minute turn. The
car I was driving paid for itself that day once the ABS brakes kicked
in and prevented me from rear ending the car ahead of me; from the dead
stop I was just a couple of inches from disaster.
I won't pay for all of the other options on trim #4 because I only want
the ABS. As for the tilt steering. I've lived with tilt steering for
so long I can not imagine not having it. I can do with manual windows
but I will not get by without tilt steering. I would want the
subcompact to be as basic as humanly possible for low running costs.
And so power windows aren't on the list since I've had them break on me
before. Plus I want the level of control in the unlikely event that my
car and it's occupants get submerged inside the automobile.
So as it stands, I was thinking about it -- the accent being such a
bargain for the money. But for these specific reasons, I will have to
look elsewhere.
Still I wonder if the Accent uses a timming belt or if it's a chain.
<<<<we have no ac in our accent, im in sioux lookout ontario, it still
gets very
hot here in the summer.
next car my byfriend and I plan to buy is going to have ac and cruise
control... >>>>
not be found with a tilt steering wheel at any trim level. Not only
that but the only way the car can be had with ABS brakes would be the
most expensive trim level #4!
I'm not in the market for a car at this very moment but I'm sure in 3
years I'll want a subcompact for general use. As it stands, I will
NEVER and I mean NEVER drive a car without ABS brakes. Not a rental,
not a friends car, not a borrowed car. Even if I'm riding inside the
car as a passenger I wouldn't feel safe. ABS brakes have saved my life
numerous times. More than I can ever count. I've lived in busy metro
areas all my life and I can't tell you how many times I needed the ABS
brakes to stop. On one occasion on the highway we had snow. Some jerk
up ahead of the convoy hit the brakes to make a last minute turn. The
car I was driving paid for itself that day once the ABS brakes kicked
in and prevented me from rear ending the car ahead of me; from the dead
stop I was just a couple of inches from disaster.
I won't pay for all of the other options on trim #4 because I only want
the ABS. As for the tilt steering. I've lived with tilt steering for
so long I can not imagine not having it. I can do with manual windows
but I will not get by without tilt steering. I would want the
subcompact to be as basic as humanly possible for low running costs.
And so power windows aren't on the list since I've had them break on me
before. Plus I want the level of control in the unlikely event that my
car and it's occupants get submerged inside the automobile.
So as it stands, I was thinking about it -- the accent being such a
bargain for the money. But for these specific reasons, I will have to
look elsewhere.
Still I wonder if the Accent uses a timming belt or if it's a chain.
<<<<we have no ac in our accent, im in sioux lookout ontario, it still
gets very
hot here in the summer.
next car my byfriend and I plan to buy is going to have ac and cruise
control... >>>>
#18
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Re: Accent Timing Belt
im must be sicker than i thought, i dont remmeber talking about tilt
stearing (great for head room) and abs etc...
maybye was with someone else??
damn cold i have, has me delerious :P
<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Jody, I just checked Hyundais web page and I found out the Accent can
> not be found with a tilt steering wheel at any trim level. Not only
> that but the only way the car can be had with ABS brakes would be the
> most expensive trim level #4!
>
> I'm not in the market for a car at this very moment but I'm sure in 3
> years I'll want a subcompact for general use. As it stands, I will
> NEVER and I mean NEVER drive a car without ABS brakes. Not a rental,
> not a friends car, not a borrowed car. Even if I'm riding inside the
> car as a passenger I wouldn't feel safe. ABS brakes have saved my life
> numerous times. More than I can ever count. I've lived in busy metro
> areas all my life and I can't tell you how many times I needed the ABS
> brakes to stop. On one occasion on the highway we had snow. Some jerk
> up ahead of the convoy hit the brakes to make a last minute turn. The
> car I was driving paid for itself that day once the ABS brakes kicked
> in and prevented me from rear ending the car ahead of me; from the dead
> stop I was just a couple of inches from disaster.
>
> I won't pay for all of the other options on trim #4 because I only want
> the ABS. As for the tilt steering. I've lived with tilt steering for
> so long I can not imagine not having it. I can do with manual windows
> but I will not get by without tilt steering. I would want the
> subcompact to be as basic as humanly possible for low running costs.
> And so power windows aren't on the list since I've had them break on me
> before. Plus I want the level of control in the unlikely event that my
> car and it's occupants get submerged inside the automobile.
>
> So as it stands, I was thinking about it -- the accent being such a
> bargain for the money. But for these specific reasons, I will have to
> look elsewhere.
>
> Still I wonder if the Accent uses a timming belt or if it's a chain.
>
>
> <<<<we have no ac in our accent, im in sioux lookout ontario, it still
> gets very
> hot here in the summer.
> next car my byfriend and I plan to buy is going to have ac and cruise
> control... >>>>
>
stearing (great for head room) and abs etc...
maybye was with someone else??
damn cold i have, has me delerious :P
<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1118296555.570152.223160@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Jody, I just checked Hyundais web page and I found out the Accent can
> not be found with a tilt steering wheel at any trim level. Not only
> that but the only way the car can be had with ABS brakes would be the
> most expensive trim level #4!
>
> I'm not in the market for a car at this very moment but I'm sure in 3
> years I'll want a subcompact for general use. As it stands, I will
> NEVER and I mean NEVER drive a car without ABS brakes. Not a rental,
> not a friends car, not a borrowed car. Even if I'm riding inside the
> car as a passenger I wouldn't feel safe. ABS brakes have saved my life
> numerous times. More than I can ever count. I've lived in busy metro
> areas all my life and I can't tell you how many times I needed the ABS
> brakes to stop. On one occasion on the highway we had snow. Some jerk
> up ahead of the convoy hit the brakes to make a last minute turn. The
> car I was driving paid for itself that day once the ABS brakes kicked
> in and prevented me from rear ending the car ahead of me; from the dead
> stop I was just a couple of inches from disaster.
>
> I won't pay for all of the other options on trim #4 because I only want
> the ABS. As for the tilt steering. I've lived with tilt steering for
> so long I can not imagine not having it. I can do with manual windows
> but I will not get by without tilt steering. I would want the
> subcompact to be as basic as humanly possible for low running costs.
> And so power windows aren't on the list since I've had them break on me
> before. Plus I want the level of control in the unlikely event that my
> car and it's occupants get submerged inside the automobile.
>
> So as it stands, I was thinking about it -- the accent being such a
> bargain for the money. But for these specific reasons, I will have to
> look elsewhere.
>
> Still I wonder if the Accent uses a timming belt or if it's a chain.
>
>
> <<<<we have no ac in our accent, im in sioux lookout ontario, it still
> gets very
> hot here in the summer.
> next car my byfriend and I plan to buy is going to have ac and cruise
> control... >>>>
>
#19
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Re: Accent Timing Belt
you think thats bad here in canada we cannot get abs at all , side air bags
etc on the accent, or even the new tuscon!
Ive had it with hyundai canada...
if they do same thing with new sonata and accent were buying a kia next time
round...
almost the same anyways..
<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1118296555.570152.223160@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Jody, I just checked Hyundais web page and I found out the Accent can
> not be found with a tilt steering wheel at any trim level. Not only
> that but the only way the car can be had with ABS brakes would be the
> most expensive trim level #4!
>
> I'm not in the market for a car at this very moment but I'm sure in 3
> years I'll want a subcompact for general use. As it stands, I will
> NEVER and I mean NEVER drive a car without ABS brakes. Not a rental,
> not a friends car, not a borrowed car. Even if I'm riding inside the
> car as a passenger I wouldn't feel safe. ABS brakes have saved my life
> numerous times. More than I can ever count. I've lived in busy metro
> areas all my life and I can't tell you how many times I needed the ABS
> brakes to stop. On one occasion on the highway we had snow. Some jerk
> up ahead of the convoy hit the brakes to make a last minute turn. The
> car I was driving paid for itself that day once the ABS brakes kicked
> in and prevented me from rear ending the car ahead of me; from the dead
> stop I was just a couple of inches from disaster.
>
> I won't pay for all of the other options on trim #4 because I only want
> the ABS. As for the tilt steering. I've lived with tilt steering for
> so long I can not imagine not having it. I can do with manual windows
> but I will not get by without tilt steering. I would want the
> subcompact to be as basic as humanly possible for low running costs.
> And so power windows aren't on the list since I've had them break on me
> before. Plus I want the level of control in the unlikely event that my
> car and it's occupants get submerged inside the automobile.
>
> So as it stands, I was thinking about it -- the accent being such a
> bargain for the money. But for these specific reasons, I will have to
> look elsewhere.
>
> Still I wonder if the Accent uses a timming belt or if it's a chain.
>
>
> <<<<we have no ac in our accent, im in sioux lookout ontario, it still
> gets very
> hot here in the summer.
> next car my byfriend and I plan to buy is going to have ac and cruise
> control... >>>>
>
etc on the accent, or even the new tuscon!
Ive had it with hyundai canada...
if they do same thing with new sonata and accent were buying a kia next time
round...
almost the same anyways..
<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1118296555.570152.223160@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Jody, I just checked Hyundais web page and I found out the Accent can
> not be found with a tilt steering wheel at any trim level. Not only
> that but the only way the car can be had with ABS brakes would be the
> most expensive trim level #4!
>
> I'm not in the market for a car at this very moment but I'm sure in 3
> years I'll want a subcompact for general use. As it stands, I will
> NEVER and I mean NEVER drive a car without ABS brakes. Not a rental,
> not a friends car, not a borrowed car. Even if I'm riding inside the
> car as a passenger I wouldn't feel safe. ABS brakes have saved my life
> numerous times. More than I can ever count. I've lived in busy metro
> areas all my life and I can't tell you how many times I needed the ABS
> brakes to stop. On one occasion on the highway we had snow. Some jerk
> up ahead of the convoy hit the brakes to make a last minute turn. The
> car I was driving paid for itself that day once the ABS brakes kicked
> in and prevented me from rear ending the car ahead of me; from the dead
> stop I was just a couple of inches from disaster.
>
> I won't pay for all of the other options on trim #4 because I only want
> the ABS. As for the tilt steering. I've lived with tilt steering for
> so long I can not imagine not having it. I can do with manual windows
> but I will not get by without tilt steering. I would want the
> subcompact to be as basic as humanly possible for low running costs.
> And so power windows aren't on the list since I've had them break on me
> before. Plus I want the level of control in the unlikely event that my
> car and it's occupants get submerged inside the automobile.
>
> So as it stands, I was thinking about it -- the accent being such a
> bargain for the money. But for these specific reasons, I will have to
> look elsewhere.
>
> Still I wonder if the Accent uses a timming belt or if it's a chain.
>
>
> <<<<we have no ac in our accent, im in sioux lookout ontario, it still
> gets very
> hot here in the summer.
> next car my byfriend and I plan to buy is going to have ac and cruise
> control... >>>>
>
#20
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Re: Accent Timing Belt
nope the current 2005's still use timing belts...
<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I was asking if the 2005+ Accents had timming belts or chains since
> things change over time.
>
>
> <<<<Still I wonder if the Accent uses a timming belt or if it's a
> chain. >>>>
>
<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I was asking if the 2005+ Accents had timming belts or chains since
> things change over time.
>
>
> <<<<Still I wonder if the Accent uses a timming belt or if it's a
> chain. >>>>
>
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<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1118296555.570152.223160@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I'm not in the market for a car at this very moment but I'm sure in 3
> years I'll want a subcompact for general use. As it stands, I will
> NEVER and I mean NEVER drive a car without ABS brakes. Not a rental,
> not a friends car, not a borrowed car. Even if I'm riding inside the
> car as a passenger I wouldn't feel safe. ABS brakes have saved my life
> numerous times. More than I can ever count.
Hmmm, I can't recall when I would have had a use for abs...........around
11 years ago as near as my wife and I can figure and even then I avoided
the dangerous situation. (driver running red light)
This from a Canadian page:
What you should know about...Anti-lock Braking Systems
"However, cars with anti-lock brakes are up to 65% more likely to be in fatal
crashes than cars without them, says a new US study. It appears that the
problem isn't with the technology, it's poor driving habits and lack of driver
awareness on how the brakes operate. Drivers who rely on technology instead
of better driving habits to improve safety are driving down a dangerous road."
ymmv
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So what's your point? Are you saying we should all go back the stone
age and live in caves? Are you saying we should all avoid advancements
in technology altogether? Listen to yourself here. Did you assume
that you yourself and everyone else in this newsgroup is too uninformed
to know how ABS brakes operate? Anyone who doesn't know that ABS
brakes should never be pumped shouldn't be driving anyway. It's pretty
obvious that you have your own ulterior motive. You simply disagree
with what I happen to value simply because you happen to be of the
opposite and you yourself do not own an ABS automobile.
ABS brakes can pulse the brakes to prevent lock-up thousands of times
faster than a human being ever could. I would prefer to use technology
to the fullest. It's just like saying "Doctor, you don't have to wash
your hands and use sterile equipment when you operate on me. And no,
sterile surgical gloves are not needed". Get the point? Why would
anyone want to do such a thing.
It's all a matter of using Technology CORRECTLY.
There are more accidents with ABS cars simply because there are more
ABS cars on the road than older or uniquiped non-ABS.
<<<<"However, cars with anti-lock brakes are up to 65% more likely to
be in fatal
crashes than cars without them, says a new US study. It appears that
the
problem isn't with the technology, it's poor driving habits and lack of
driver
awareness on how the brakes operate. Drivers who rely on technology
instead
of better driving habits to improve safety are driving down a dangerous
road." >>>>
age and live in caves? Are you saying we should all avoid advancements
in technology altogether? Listen to yourself here. Did you assume
that you yourself and everyone else in this newsgroup is too uninformed
to know how ABS brakes operate? Anyone who doesn't know that ABS
brakes should never be pumped shouldn't be driving anyway. It's pretty
obvious that you have your own ulterior motive. You simply disagree
with what I happen to value simply because you happen to be of the
opposite and you yourself do not own an ABS automobile.
ABS brakes can pulse the brakes to prevent lock-up thousands of times
faster than a human being ever could. I would prefer to use technology
to the fullest. It's just like saying "Doctor, you don't have to wash
your hands and use sterile equipment when you operate on me. And no,
sterile surgical gloves are not needed". Get the point? Why would
anyone want to do such a thing.
It's all a matter of using Technology CORRECTLY.
There are more accidents with ABS cars simply because there are more
ABS cars on the road than older or uniquiped non-ABS.
<<<<"However, cars with anti-lock brakes are up to 65% more likely to
be in fatal
crashes than cars without them, says a new US study. It appears that
the
problem isn't with the technology, it's poor driving habits and lack of
driver
awareness on how the brakes operate. Drivers who rely on technology
instead
of better driving habits to improve safety are driving down a dangerous
road." >>>>
#23
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in some conditions at what ive seen on car shows etc abs can actually be a
hindrance for stopping.
in deep snow some wheel lockup can be good to form a barrier infront of the
tire and making the tire bit down through the snow.
in some cases abs prevents your wheels from locking up, and thus stopping on
a snow covered or gravel roads can take much longer because of it not
allowing the plowing effect that the locked up wheel provides and is also
reducing stopping effort to the brakes by pulsing the abs.
now im not judging your driving style, but ive never had a problem with out
abs brakes..
I live in a northern climate of Canada and always use proper winter tires on
all 4 wheels, and good rubber for the summer ( not to hard rubber)...
<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> So what's your point? Are you saying we should all go back the stone
> age and live in caves? Are you saying we should all avoid advancements
> in technology altogether? Listen to yourself here. Did you assume
> that you yourself and everyone else in this newsgroup is too uninformed
> to know how ABS brakes operate? Anyone who doesn't know that ABS
> brakes should never be pumped shouldn't be driving anyway. It's pretty
> obvious that you have your own ulterior motive. You simply disagree
> with what I happen to value simply because you happen to be of the
> opposite and you yourself do not own an ABS automobile.
>
> ABS brakes can pulse the brakes to prevent lock-up thousands of times
> faster than a human being ever could. I would prefer to use technology
> to the fullest. It's just like saying "Doctor, you don't have to wash
> your hands and use sterile equipment when you operate on me. And no,
> sterile surgical gloves are not needed". Get the point? Why would
> anyone want to do such a thing.
>
> It's all a matter of using Technology CORRECTLY.
>
> There are more accidents with ABS cars simply because there are more
> ABS cars on the road than older or uniquiped non-ABS.
>
>
> <<<<"However, cars with anti-lock brakes are up to 65% more likely to
> be in fatal
> crashes than cars without them, says a new US study. It appears that
> the
> problem isn't with the technology, it's poor driving habits and lack of
> driver
> awareness on how the brakes operate. Drivers who rely on technology
> instead
> of better driving habits to improve safety are driving down a dangerous
> road." >>>>
>
hindrance for stopping.
in deep snow some wheel lockup can be good to form a barrier infront of the
tire and making the tire bit down through the snow.
in some cases abs prevents your wheels from locking up, and thus stopping on
a snow covered or gravel roads can take much longer because of it not
allowing the plowing effect that the locked up wheel provides and is also
reducing stopping effort to the brakes by pulsing the abs.
now im not judging your driving style, but ive never had a problem with out
abs brakes..
I live in a northern climate of Canada and always use proper winter tires on
all 4 wheels, and good rubber for the summer ( not to hard rubber)...
<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1118360094.345695.39760@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> So what's your point? Are you saying we should all go back the stone
> age and live in caves? Are you saying we should all avoid advancements
> in technology altogether? Listen to yourself here. Did you assume
> that you yourself and everyone else in this newsgroup is too uninformed
> to know how ABS brakes operate? Anyone who doesn't know that ABS
> brakes should never be pumped shouldn't be driving anyway. It's pretty
> obvious that you have your own ulterior motive. You simply disagree
> with what I happen to value simply because you happen to be of the
> opposite and you yourself do not own an ABS automobile.
>
> ABS brakes can pulse the brakes to prevent lock-up thousands of times
> faster than a human being ever could. I would prefer to use technology
> to the fullest. It's just like saying "Doctor, you don't have to wash
> your hands and use sterile equipment when you operate on me. And no,
> sterile surgical gloves are not needed". Get the point? Why would
> anyone want to do such a thing.
>
> It's all a matter of using Technology CORRECTLY.
>
> There are more accidents with ABS cars simply because there are more
> ABS cars on the road than older or uniquiped non-ABS.
>
>
> <<<<"However, cars with anti-lock brakes are up to 65% more likely to
> be in fatal
> crashes than cars without them, says a new US study. It appears that
> the
> problem isn't with the technology, it's poor driving habits and lack of
> driver
> awareness on how the brakes operate. Drivers who rely on technology
> instead
> of better driving habits to improve safety are driving down a dangerous
> road." >>>>
>
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<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> ABS brakes can pulse the brakes to prevent lock-up thousands of times
> faster than a human being ever could. I would prefer to use technology
> to the fullest. It's just like saying "Doctor, you don't have to wash
> your hands and use sterile equipment when you operate on me. And no,
> sterile surgical gloves are not needed". Get the point? Why would
> anyone want to do such a thing.
No, this straw analogy would only apply if I had said that there is no
need for ANY brakes period , we are discussing the different types of
soap and gloves but nice sophomoric try troll.
>It's all a matter of using Technology CORRECTLY.
Yes and your statement (ABS brakes have saved my life numerous times.
More than I can ever count. ) was misleading somewhat......ABS is for having
more directional control during FULL braking conditions to avoid obstacles.
ABS only_slightly_ under some conditions shortens braking distance....
If your statement is true then you need to assess your driving habits since
there are many people that drive their entire lives and NEVER need
BOTH full on (pedal to the floor) braking AND directional control at the
same time to avoid an accident
(in 1.5 million miles of driving I've needed this TWICE).
> There are more accidents with ABS cars simply because there are more
> ABS cars on the road than older or uniquiped non-ABS.
Whether you are ignorant OR are playing at being ignorant of the ability to
understand statistics for trolling purposes is of no importance to me so I
won't delve into this.
BTW for compact (re: light) cars with 4w disc brakes it has been shown
that ABS braking distance is _increased_ in many cases.
>> "However, cars with anti-lock brakes are up to 65% more
>> likely to be in fatal in
>> crashes than cars without them, says a new US study. It
>> appears that the problem isn't with the technology, it's
>> the poor driving habits of the driver
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<<<<BTW for compact (re: light) cars with 4w disc brakes it has been
shown
that ABS braking distance is _increased_ in many cases. >>>>
Not only is it you who are the troll, but you're so full of that
it's coming out of your own oral orifice.
It was made pretty damn clear that the ability to steer under hard
braking is vital in avoiding a collision.
shown
that ABS braking distance is _increased_ in many cases. >>>>
Not only is it you who are the troll, but you're so full of that
it's coming out of your own oral orifice.
It was made pretty damn clear that the ability to steer under hard
braking is vital in avoiding a collision.
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<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Not only is it you who are the troll, but you're so full of that
> it's coming out of your own oral orifice.
>
Hey you moron, I'm quoting experts in the field ...you just
play one on the internet.
> It was made pretty damn clear that the ability to steer under hard
> braking is vital in avoiding a collision.
Well duh, you say that like I disagreed with it.....you have a definite
reading comprehension problem.
BTW You ever load up that 2002 Ford Taurus and trailer and haul your
racist ,bigoted *** out of Ca or did they throw you out.
This is boring 'plonk'
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You just shot yourself in the leg!!! Not only that but you have just
shown the whole UseNet world what an immature nasty creature that you
truly are. Your Mom must have wept in pity right after she gave birth
to your sorry as since she would have had an intuition that you would
turn out to be not only a pathological liar, but a sociopath and a
psychotic mental case who would murder innocent people so long as he
forget his meds in the morning.
<<<<> Not only is it you who are the troll, but you're so full of
that
> it's coming out of your own oral orifice.
Hey you moron, I'm quoting experts in the field ...you just
play one on the internet.
> It was made pretty damn clear that the ability to steer under hard
> braking is vital in avoiding a collision.
Well duh, you say that like I disagreed with it.....you have a definite
reading comprehension problem.
BTW You ever load up that 2002 Ford Taurus and trailer and haul your
racist ,bigoted *** out of Ca or did they throw you out.
This is boring 'plonk' >>>>
shown the whole UseNet world what an immature nasty creature that you
truly are. Your Mom must have wept in pity right after she gave birth
to your sorry as since she would have had an intuition that you would
turn out to be not only a pathological liar, but a sociopath and a
psychotic mental case who would murder innocent people so long as he
forget his meds in the morning.
<<<<> Not only is it you who are the troll, but you're so full of
that
> it's coming out of your own oral orifice.
Hey you moron, I'm quoting experts in the field ...you just
play one on the internet.
> It was made pretty damn clear that the ability to steer under hard
> braking is vital in avoiding a collision.
Well duh, you say that like I disagreed with it.....you have a definite
reading comprehension problem.
BTW You ever load up that 2002 Ford Taurus and trailer and haul your
racist ,bigoted *** out of Ca or did they throw you out.
This is boring 'plonk' >>>>
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