glassfern53

Hello All,

What is the best gasoline to use for a 2004 Elantra? I'm presently
using 87 octane Mobil or Exxon and am thinking of switching to 89
octane. I just had a tune up and a fuel injector cleaning done, but,
am experiencing some pinging and engine knock on acceleration, or
going up a hill. If I use a higher octane will higher burn rate hurt
the cylinders? I appreciate the advice. (What if I fill half full of
87 and half full of 89 octane?)

Mike Marlow

"glassfern53" <4hisglorynotmine@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello All,
>
> What is the best gasoline to use for a 2004 Elantra? I'm presently
> using 87 octane Mobil or Exxon and am thinking of switching to 89
> octane. I just had a tune up and a fuel injector cleaning done, but,
> am experiencing some pinging and engine knock on acceleration, or
> going up a hill. If I use a higher octane will higher burn rate hurt
> the cylinders? I appreciate the advice. (What if I fill half full of
> 87 and half full of 89 octane?)
>

Fill it up. You won't hurt anything by going to 89 octane. You could burn
hi-test if you really wanted to simply spend money for no reason, and still
not hurt anything.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

hyundaitech

Higher octanes have a *lower* burn rate. That's why there's less pinging.

There's no problem with using 89 Octane other than the additional money
you'll spend.

Rev. Tom Wenndt

Unless you live in the Midwest, and then, due to ethanol tax credits and the
like, often 89 - ethanol blend is cheaper than 87 - straight unleaded.


"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> Higher octanes have a *lower* burn rate. That's why there's less pinging.
>
> There's no problem with using 89 Octane other than the additional money
> you'll spend.
>

Edwin Pawlowski

"glassfern53" <4hisglorynotmine@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello All,
>
> What is the best gasoline to use for a 2004 Elantra? I'm presently
> using 87 octane Mobil or Exxon and am thinking of switching to 89
> octane. I just had a tune up and a fuel injector cleaning done, but,
> am experiencing some pinging and engine knock on acceleration, or
> going up a hill. If I use a higher octane will higher burn rate hurt
> the cylinders? I appreciate the advice. (What if I fill half full of
> 87 and half full of 89 octane?)

Going to the higher octane may or may not stop the pinging, but it certainly
won't fix the problem. It will take an extra few dollars out of your pocket
every time you fill up. Maybe the guy that did the alleged tune up did
something to cause the problem if it just started.

Most cars today, including the Elantra, are designed to run on 87 octane and
have no gain no improvement, no benefit, when the 89 is used. Yes, you can
also mix them to waste a little less money.

Brian Nystrom

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "glassfern53" <4hisglorynotmine@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1174244679.465421.322450@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hello All,
>>
>> What is the best gasoline to use for a 2004 Elantra? I'm presently
>> using 87 octane Mobil or Exxon and am thinking of switching to 89
>> octane. I just had a tune up and a fuel injector cleaning done, but,
>> am experiencing some pinging and engine knock on acceleration, or
>> going up a hill. If I use a higher octane will higher burn rate hurt
>> the cylinders? I appreciate the advice. (What if I fill half full of
>> 87 and half full of 89 octane?)
>>
>
> Fill it up. You won't hurt anything by going to 89 octane. You could burn
> hi-test if you really wanted to simply spend money for no reason, and still
> not hurt anything.

That's not true. Slower burning high-octane fuels will not burn
completely in an engine that's designed for faster burning, lower-octane
fuels. The end result is poorer performance, lower gas mileage and
carbon buildup in the engine.

If the OP's engine is pinging, he may have no choice other than to use
89 octane fuel, but I wouldn't go any higher than that. If the 89
doesn't stop the pinging, something else is wrong. It may indicate a
sensor issue that's causing the timing to be advanced too far or perhaps
the knock sensor has failed.

Richard Steinfeld

Brian Nystrom wrote:
> That's not true. Slower burning high-octane fuels will not burn
> completely in an engine that's designed for faster burning, lower-octane
> fuels. The end result is poorer performance, lower gas mileage and
> carbon buildup in the engine.
>
> If the OP's engine is pinging, he may have no choice other than to use
> 89 octane fuel, but I wouldn't go any higher than that. If the 89
> doesn't stop the pinging, something else is wrong. It may indicate a
> sensor issue that's causing the timing to be advanced too far or perhaps
> the knock sensor has failed.

My theory is that higher octane fuel may actually be less efficient
because it's still burning when the exhaust valves open -- part of the
charge just blows out the tailpipe.

For the same reason, it may even lead to burned exhaust valves.