RC

Hi,
My son bought a new Hyundai Tiburon in 2004 with a 10 year/100,000 warranty. 4
years and 70,000 miles later the motor blows ( hole in engine block near timing
chain and oil all over the highway). The last couple of years he
did a lot of mod's to it...... headers, exhaust, air intake, computer chip. Did
he void his warranty with these mod's?
Haven't talked to the stealership yet,.... just getting a feel for the
storm that could be coming.

Thanks for any input,
RC

mack

"RC" <RC_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> My son bought a new Hyundai Tiburon in 2004 with a 10 year/100,000
> warranty. 4
> years and 70,000 miles later the motor blows ( hole in engine block near
> timing
> chain and oil all over the highway). The last couple of years he
> did a lot of mod's to it...... headers, exhaust, air intake, computer
> chip. Did
> he void his warranty with these mod's?

:Let me make a wild guess. YES, of course it voids his 100,000 mile
warranty. It's not the original equipment that the manufacturer supplied
when the car was new. If I were the Hyundai folks, I'd turn down the
warranty claim flat. sorry.
>

Edwin Pawlowski

"RC" <RC_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> My son bought a new Hyundai Tiburon in 2004 with a 10 year/100,000
> warranty. 4
> years and 70,000 miles later the motor blows ( hole in engine block near
> timing
> chain and oil all over the highway). The last couple of years he
> did a lot of mod's to it...... headers, exhaust, air intake, computer
> chip. Did
> he void his warranty with these mod's?
> Haven't talked to the stealership yet,.... just getting a feel for the
>
> storm that could be coming.
>
> Thanks for any input,
> RC
>
>

What storm? He certainly voided the warranty with all those mods so there
will be no arguments. He probably drove it often in the high rpm range too.
I'd not warrant a car like that for five minutes. Please though, take the
car to the dealer, they can use a good laugh.

Mike Marlow

"RC" <RC_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> My son bought a new Hyundai Tiburon in 2004 with a 10 year/100,000
> warranty. 4
> years and 70,000 miles later the motor blows ( hole in engine block near
> timing
> chain and oil all over the highway). The last couple of years he
> did a lot of mod's to it...... headers, exhaust, air intake, computer
> chip. Did
> he void his warranty with these mod's?
> Haven't talked to the stealership yet,.... just getting a feel for the
>
> storm that could be coming.
>

I would guess that replacing the chip would violate his warranty, if nothing
else does. That one seems like kind of a no-brainer.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

DaToteman

Here this might help; In essence no the parts won't void the warranty,
however they will most likely claim that the after market parts caused the
damage and I do believe that there has been some concern over the Tib V6 2.7
having a weak block.. (4 boil main). I do not have all of the particulars
but should be easy to find out.

Will adding aftermarket performance products void my car's factory
warranty?
U.S. Federal law sets forth requirements for warranties and contains a
number of provisions to prevent vehicle manufacturers, dealers and others
from unjustly denying warranty coverage. With regard to aftermarket parts,
the spirit of the law is that warranty coverage cannot be denied simply
because such parts are present on the vehicle, or have been used. The
warranty coverage can be denied only if the aftermarket part caused the
malfunction or damage for which warranty coverage is sought. Disputes in
this area usually boil down to arguments over facts and technical opinions,
rather than arguments over interpretations of the law.




1.The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C))

This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers.
The essence of the law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle
manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the
consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or
corporate name (such as the vehicle maker's brand) unless the parts or
service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an
aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the
law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where
such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty.
Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or
conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided. The
law states in relevant part:

No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or
implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with
such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided
without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by
brand, trade or corporate name... (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).

http://www.ipdusa.com/Will-adding-af...arranty/fi-28/




"RC" <RC_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> My son bought a new Hyundai Tiburon in 2004 with a 10 year/100,000
> warranty. 4
> years and 70,000 miles later the motor blows ( hole in engine block near
> timing
> chain and oil all over the highway). The last couple of years he
> did a lot of mod's to it...... headers, exhaust, air intake, computer
> chip. Did
> he void his warranty with these mod's?
> Haven't talked to the stealership yet,.... just getting a feel for the
>
> storm that could be coming.
>
> Thanks for any input,
> RC
>
>

Edwin Pawlowski

"DaToteman" <notpublic@notpublic.com> wrote in message

> . With regard to aftermarket parts, the spirit of the law is that warranty
> coverage cannot be denied simply because such parts are present on the
> vehicle, or have been used. The warranty coverage can be denied only if
> the aftermarket part caused the malfunction or damage for which warranty
> coverage is sought. Disputes in this area usually boil down to arguments
> over facts and technical opinions, rather than arguments over
> interpretations of the law.
>
>
>
>
> 1.The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C))
>
> However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in
> situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under
> the warranty.

Changing the chip alters the performance curves and that alone would be
enough to void the warranty. Anything adding to a stronger fuel charge,
higher RPM, higher shift points and the like would cause more stress than
the original engine design allows.

Mike Marlow

"DaToteman" <notpublic@notpublic.com> wrote in message
news:S_ydnQKeVOBwusLVnZ2dnUVZ_rrinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Here this might help; In essence no the parts won't void the warranty,
> however they will most likely claim that the after market parts caused the
> damage and I do believe that there has been some concern over the Tib V6
> 2.7 having a weak block.. (4 boil main). I do not have all of the
> particulars but should be easy to find out.
>

>
> No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or
> implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection
> with such product, any article or service (other than article or service
> provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is
> identified by brand, trade or corporate name... (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).
>

I believe Hyundai would find it quite easy to state, and likely support,
that parts like the chip are not merely aftermarket parts, and as such are
not protected by Mangnuson-Moss. Like kind and quality sneaks into the
picture, as does the issue of technical specifications.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Hal

> My son bought a new Hyundai Tiburon in 2004 with a 10 year/100,000 warranty. 4
> years and 70,000 miles later the motor blows ( hole in engine block near timing
> chain and oil all over the highway). The last couple of years he
> did a lot of mod's to it...... headers, exhaust, air intake, computer chip. Did
> he void his warranty with these mod's?

My advice would be to buy a good used motor from the local wrecking
yard and pay a local shop the $600 or so to install it for you. And
drive nicely afterwards, unless changing engines is your idea of fun.
In addition, your son needs to admit to himself that he drove the hell
out of the car and broke it.

Hot rodding wears and breaks things, as happened here. 70,000 miles of
hot-rodding is a pretty good run, all things considered, and I don't
see how Hyundai should be responsible for your son's desire to go fast
and stress his vehicle beyond its design limitations.

Good luck with it.

Chris

hyundaitech

He cranked up the power beyond the limits the motor could withstand over
time, and it blew up. I seriously doubt any dealership would fix this
under warranty.

These cars are *very* fast when performance modifications are done. But
remember that with race tuning comes race lifespan.

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DaToteman

I agree that the total sum of aftermarket performance parts caused the
engine to blow. I was just making the point that actually installing them
does not automatically void the warranty. Installing performance parts is a
murky area when it comes to failures and what is covered or not.

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
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>
> "DaToteman" <notpublic@notpublic.com> wrote in message
> news:S_ydnQKeVOBwusLVnZ2dnUVZ_rrinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Here this might help; In essence no the parts won't void the warranty,
>> however they will most likely claim that the after market parts caused
>> the damage and I do believe that there has been some concern over the Tib
>> V6 2.7 having a weak block.. (4 boil main). I do not have all of the
>> particulars but should be easy to find out.
>>
>
>>
>> No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or
>> implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection
>> with such product, any article or service (other than article or service
>> provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is
>> identified by brand, trade or corporate name... (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).
>>
>
> I believe Hyundai would find it quite easy to state, and likely support,
> that parts like the chip are not merely aftermarket parts, and as such are
> not protected by Mangnuson-Moss. Like kind and quality sneaks into the
> picture, as does the issue of technical specifications.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>

mack

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> He cranked up the power beyond the limits the motor could withstand over
> time, and it blew up. I seriously doubt any dealership would fix this
> under warranty.
>
> These cars are *very* fast when performance modifications are done. But
> remember that with race tuning comes race lifespan.
>

the young man could have saved himself a lot of money by not installing all
the goodies, but simply by using 100 octane aviation gas.........with the
same result of great performance and short engine life.

RC

Thank you very much for all your input, much appreciative. Your right...warranty
is void with all the stuff he did to it ( not to mention welding the headers on
). Going to take Hal's advice. Get a 2.7 from bone yard, pay someone to swap...
and life goes on. If you want to play your
going to pay! lesson learned.... Thanks again.

Ron Clark

Mike Marlow

"RC" <RC_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thank you very much for all your input, much appreciative. Your
> right...warranty
> is void with all the stuff he did to it ( not to mention welding the
> headers on
> ). Going to take Hal's advice. Get a 2.7 from bone yard, pay someone to
> swap...
> and life goes on. If you want to play your
> going to pay! lesson learned.... Thanks again.
>

Welded the headers on???? It may have been a stupid idea, but if your son
welded the headers on (successfully), then he's at least talented.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

mack

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
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> "RC" <RC_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
> news:g3s7mc023v3@drn.newsguy.com...
>>
>> Thank you very much for all your input, much appreciative. Your
>> right...warranty
>> is void with all the stuff he did to it ( not to mention welding the
>> headers on
>> ). Going to take Hal's advice. Get a 2.7 from bone yard, pay someone to
>> swap...
>> and life goes on. If you want to play your
>> going to pay! lesson learned.... Thanks again.
>>
>
> Welded the headers on???? It may have been a stupid idea, but if your son
> welded the headers on (successfully), then he's at least talented.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net


Perhaps just a little TOO talented for the sake of his (or Dad's) wallet.

Matt Whiting

RC wrote:
> Hi,
> My son bought a new Hyundai Tiburon in 2004 with a 10 year/100,000 warranty. 4
> years and 70,000 miles later the motor blows ( hole in engine block near timing
> chain and oil all over the highway). The last couple of years he
> did a lot of mod's to it...... headers, exhaust, air intake, computer chip. Did
> he void his warranty with these mod's?
> Haven't talked to the stealership yet,.... just getting a feel for the
> storm that could be coming.

I'd say it is pretty much guaranteed that be voided his warranty and
likely also ruined his engine.

Matt