Steven Fisher

Any experiences, one way or the other?


Steve

No one

On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:50:32 -0700, Steven Fisher
<sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote:

>Any experiences, one way or the other?
>
>
>Steve
Have an '05. Great car, dependable, comfortable, consistent 23-24mpg.

Neville MADDEN

Steven Fisher <sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote in news:sdfisher-
C5D4CA.22503214032009@mara100-84.onlink.net:

> Any experiences, one way or the other?
>
>
> Steve

Have an 07. The only thing that I can complain about is the LED on the
AirCon/Temp controls. It is a mushy green and hard to see in daylight.
Now that is really nit-picking because I love my Tucson and will buy
another without hesitation.

I tow a 600+ KG caravan with my 2.6l V6 and the extra fuel consumption,
compared to normal highway running, is hardly worth worrying about.

I'm off in a few weeks for a 5000km trip with the caravan and expect it to
be hassle free. I'm coming up to my 30,000 km service and after 15,000km
the oil level on the dipstick is the same as it was at 15000km.

Neville
Casino NSW
Australia

Steven Fisher

In article <51tqr4l6dhq36cq7nutgru75cucnd3qcvh@4ax.com>,
No one <none@yourbusiness.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:50:32 -0700, Steven Fisher
> <sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> >Any experiences, one way or the other?
>
> Have an '05. Great car, dependable, comfortable, consistent 23-24mpg.

Thanks. That's slightly better than I was expecting.

We signed for the credit check and such today, should have the car
Wednesday.

(And a reply to Neville: I saw the display you talked about. Not great,
but I can put up with it.)


Steve

Pan Piskorz

> Any experiences, one way or the other?
>

I have one, MY2008,
middle equiped version (style 4wd), engine is 2.0,
after 9kkm I have to say: this car has no faults,
it is best for roads in polish streets,

looks nice, quality is in 1st league,

try compare it with the same priced vw golf - which one win the competition

P.

Steven Fisher

In article <51tqr4l6dhq36cq7nutgru75cucnd3qcvh@4ax.com>,
No one <none@yourbusiness.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:50:32 -0700, Steven Fisher
> <sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> >Any experiences, one way or the other?
>
> Have an '05. Great car, dependable, comfortable, consistent 23-24mpg.

I only have enough data for one calculations so far: 27mpg. Mostly city
driving. I hope that wasn't just a blip.


Steve

Neville MADDEN

Steven Fisher <sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote in news:sdfisher-
B110E4.00255701042009@mara100-84.onlink.net:

> In article <51tqr4l6dhq36cq7nutgru75cucnd3qcvh@4ax.com>,
> No one <none@yourbusiness.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:50:32 -0700, Steven Fisher
>> <sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Any experiences, one way or the other?
>>
>> Have an '05. Great car, dependable, comfortable, consistent 23-24mpg.
>
> I only have enough data for one calculations so far: 27mpg. Mostly city
> driving. I hope that wasn't just a blip.
>
>
> Steve
>

Have a 2007 2.7L V6 Tucson and after converting to metric the figure of
23-24mpg for city and country driving is pretty close. My average is
23.5mpg, sitting on 60mph. If I drop to 55mph the lower consumption is
noticable.
Pisses off the other drivers though.

Neville
Casino NSW
Australia

Voyager

Steven Fisher wrote:
> In article <51tqr4l6dhq36cq7nutgru75cucnd3qcvh@4ax.com>,
> No one <none@yourbusiness.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:50:32 -0700, Steven Fisher
>> <sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Any experiences, one way or the other?
>> Have an '05. Great car, dependable, comfortable, consistent 23-24mpg.
>
> I only have enough data for one calculations so far: 27mpg. Mostly city
> driving. I hope that wasn't just a blip.
>
>
> Steve

Yes, one computation is a blip by definition. You need to average at
least 5 fill-ups to begin to get a decent MPG value.

Matt

Steven Fisher

In article <xPTAl.88681$Zp.16666@newsfe21.iad>,
Voyager <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote:

> Yes, one computation is a blip by definition. You need to average at
> least 5 fill-ups to begin to get a decent MPG value.

Oh, I know, but all I have is two fill-ups, and I doubt I started with a
full car so one value is all that I can do. I'm not about to go out of
my way to burn gas.

I'm sure I could have saved $10,000 or more over the life of my last car
if I'd been watching it more carefully, combining gas and repairs that
fixed secondary damage. Lesson learned. I plan on keeping a proper
record with this car, and even bought an iPhone app to do it.
Steve

Mike Marlow

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:06:42 -0700, Steven Fisher
<sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote:

>In article <xPTAl.88681$Zp.16666@newsfe21.iad>,
> Voyager <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote:
>
>> Yes, one computation is a blip by definition. You need to average at
>> least 5 fill-ups to begin to get a decent MPG value.
>
>Oh, I know, but all I have is two fill-ups, and I doubt I started with a
>full car so one value is all that I can do. I'm not about to go out of
>my way to burn gas.
>
>I'm sure I could have saved $10,000 or more over the life of my last car
>if I'd been watching it more carefully, combining gas and repairs that
>fixed secondary damage. Lesson learned. I plan on keeping a proper
>record with this car, and even bought an iPhone app to do it.
>Steve


How do you figure that watching your gas mileage could have saved you
$10,000?

-Mike-
mmarlow@REMOVEwindstream.net

Voyager

Steven Fisher wrote:
> In article <xPTAl.88681$Zp.16666@newsfe21.iad>,
> Voyager <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote:
>
>> Yes, one computation is a blip by definition. You need to average at
>> least 5 fill-ups to begin to get a decent MPG value.
>
> Oh, I know, but all I have is two fill-ups, and I doubt I started with a
> full car so one value is all that I can do. I'm not about to go out of
> my way to burn gas.
>
> I'm sure I could have saved $10,000 or more over the life of my last car
> if I'd been watching it more carefully, combining gas and repairs that
> fixed secondary damage. Lesson learned. I plan on keeping a proper
> record with this car, and even bought an iPhone app to do it.
> Steve

I wasn't suggesting you burn more gas unnecessarily, just that you not
read too much into one MPG check. I keep a log in all of my vehicles
and record every fill-up (and I fill up every time I buy gas) and the
MPG for that tank.

I use a sheet for the Sonata also, but I didn't start that with my
older vehicles. I keep a running 5 tank average and also a life-to-date
average as that is easy in Excel.

Matt

Steven Fisher

In article <o7jdt491b2pgbpk8s8q96m466ps4tlv9vt@4ax.com>,
Mike Marlow <mmarlow@REMOVEwindstream.net> wrote:

> How do you figure that watching your gas mileage could have saved you
> $10,000?

When I finally got the real cause of my problems repaired, I realized my
car was about two months old when it last got the kind of mileage I was
getting now. The drop wasn't immediate, but it happened. That means it
was damaged for about eight years. Add in a couple extra repairs that
hinted what the real problem was -- multiple catalytic converters, new
wires a couple times, rebuilding the exhaust system.

8 years of a minor problem can pretty easily add to $10,000. Err, though
I should say I'm thinking Canadian. Call it $7,000, since the exchange
rate has varied so much over the decade.


Steve

Steven Fisher

In article <pdOBl.844$TD1.508@newsfe18.iad>,
Voyager <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote:

> I wasn't suggesting you burn more gas unnecessarily, just that you not
> read too much into one MPG check. I keep a log in all of my vehicles
> and record every fill-up (and I fill up every time I buy gas) and the
> MPG for that tank.

Oh, don't worry, I'm not reading a lot into it. But as the first number
on the board, I'm not unhappy. Which was the point.

(Second number is 30 MPG. Won't trust it until I have a half dozen or
so, though.)


Steve

Voyager

Steven Fisher wrote:
> In article <o7jdt491b2pgbpk8s8q96m466ps4tlv9vt@4ax.com>,
> Mike Marlow <mmarlow@REMOVEwindstream.net> wrote:
>
>> How do you figure that watching your gas mileage could have saved you
>> $10,000?
>
> When I finally got the real cause of my problems repaired, I realized my
> car was about two months old when it last got the kind of mileage I was
> getting now. The drop wasn't immediate, but it happened. That means it
> was damaged for about eight years. Add in a couple extra repairs that
> hinted what the real problem was -- multiple catalytic converters, new
> wires a couple times, rebuilding the exhaust system.
>
> 8 years of a minor problem can pretty easily add to $10,000. Err, though
> I should say I'm thinking Canadian. Call it $7,000, since the exchange
> rate has varied so much over the decade.

I can't claim to have saved big bucks, but my ongoing MPG calculations
have caught a lot of problems before they got too bad. Typically,
little things like sensors or EGR valves going haywire.

Matt